Overtraining on purpose for maximum gains?

TuffDong · Sep 9, 2019

Kegels are the only ESSENTIAL exercise I am lacking. Need to find a way to get motivated, and also reminded to do them. I mean, I kegel during expansion exercises, but not to the point of PF fatigue.

Definitely take @DLD advice, and incorporate them frequently.

DLD · Sep 9, 2019

TuffDong said:
Kegels are the only ESSENTIAL exercise I am lacking. Need to find a way to get motivated, and also reminded to do them. I mean, I kegel during expansion exercises, but not to the point of PF fatigue.

Definitely take @DLD advice, and incorporate them frequently.

Thanks my brother!

V-TAX · Oct 5, 2019

DLD said:
It’s kinda like the gym you lift heavy weight to build muscle which would long Kegels, even better weighted long Kegels. Some do towel raises to build muscle too. Think of quick Kegels over a long period as the exercise bike for endurance.

A week ago I started doing PE every day as you said, and in the past 3 days, my expansion has decreased after the sessions by 0.4 inches in girth. Is this a bad sign DLD?

DLD · Oct 5, 2019

V-TAX said:
A week ago I started doing PE every day as you said, and in the past 3 days, my expansion has decreased after the sessions by 0.4 inches in girth. Is this a bad sign DLD?

No that’s not a bad sign it’s a sign that your EQ needs rest. When you find yourself in this state is simply means you need to strengthen your pelvic floor muscles.

V-TAX · Oct 7, 2019

DLD said:
No that’s not a bad sign it’s a sign that your EQ needs rest. When you find yourself in this state is simply means you need to strengthen your pelvic floor muscles.

So i need to do more kegels?? And OMFG, my expanison is even lesser now, and my expansion dissipates almost immedatley after my session, its dropping away super fast and it has never done that before!!! My expansion always last all day, from 70-95%!!. Do I need a break....?

FireBoner · Oct 7, 2019

How Long are your session(and what exercice for) ? And usually how many kegels did you do a day ? Cause as DLD said if your pelvic floor muscle is not strong enough you just won't be able to get strong erection wich translate to be able to hold more blood even in a rest state
Another question could be : have you recently gotten an injury or something that could hurt a lot your EQ ?
Also what where your rythm before going evry day PE ?

V-TAX · Oct 7, 2019

FireBoner said:
How Long are your session(and what exercice for) ? And usually how many kegels did you do a day ? Cause as DLD said if your pelvic floor muscle is not strong enough you just won't be able to get strong erection wich translate to be able to hold more blood even in a rest state
Another question could be : have you recently gotten an injury or something that could hurt a lot your EQ ?
Also what where your rythm before going evry day PE ?

1. How Long are your session(and what exercice for) ? - 45 minutes of clamping (15 min x 3) then 30 min pumping.

2. And usually how many kegels did you do a day ? - I dont count, i just do them. I have always maintained my expansion all day, everything from 60-95% through the entire day. wheter i do kegels or not. So these last days are new to me, that my expansion just goes away and is SO much less expansion.

3. have you recently gotten an injury or something that could hurt a lot your EQ ? - Nope

4. Also what where your rythm before going evry day PE ? - I`ve done PE every day now for 1.5 weeks now, and I have never done this before. Before I started on this, I did my routine above on point 1, every other day. and on the other day, I did only pumping, which never resulted in what im experiencing now and these past days.

I will and must do more kegels, I have realized now i need to do even more!

FireBoner · Oct 7, 2019

V-TAX said:
1. How Long are your session(and what exercice for) ? - 45 minutes of clamping (15 min x 3) then 30 min pumping.

2. And usually how many kegels did you do a day ? - I dont count, i just do them. I have always maintained my expansion all day, everything from 60-95% through the entire day. wheter i do kegels or not. So these last days are new to me, that my expansion just goes away and is SO much less expansion.

3. have you recently gotten an injury or something that could hurt a lot your EQ ? - Nope

4. Also what where your rythm before going evry day PE ? - I`ve done PE every day now for 1.5 weeks now, and I have never done this before. Before I started on this, I did my routine above on point 1, every other day. and on the other day, I did only pumping, which never resulted in what im experiencing now and these past days.

I will and must do more kegels, I have realized now i need to do even more!

If after 2 weeks weak EQ is still here and you still can't keep your expansion Maybe just go a bit smoother on the daily basis while getting a stronger prlvic floor muscle and gradually get back to your max intensity, don't rush yourself brother
It could takes weeks or even a month or two before you'll be able to do that level of workout while having that "expansion" afterward
But you'll make it

Remember PE is a marathon ?

Myself Before fetting to this much of volume it took me 6 month (going from one 15 minutes a day then 20 then again 15 but twice ect ect of pumping to 3 monstruous hours a day for more detail I'll let you be curious of my routine and my journey)

With that said : May your journey lead you to a massive dong (or in my case a huge Boner ?the femur type one)

DLD · Oct 7, 2019

FireBoner said:
If after 2 weeks weak EQ is still here and you still can't keep your expansion Maybe just go a bit smoother on the daily basis while getting a stronger prlvic floor muscle and gradually get back to your max intensity, don't rush yourself brother
It could takes weeks or even a month or two before you'll be able to do that level of workout while having that "expansion" afterward
But you'll make it

Remember PE is a marathon ?

Myself Before fetting to this much of volume it took me 6 month (going from one 15 minutes a day then 20 then again 15 but twice ect ect of pumping to 3 monstruous hours a day for more detail I'll let you be curious of my routine and my journey)

With that said : May your journey lead you to a massive dong (or in my case a huge Boner ?the femur type one)

Excellent advice! I thank you so much for your reply. The only thing I would like to add is when you find yourself in a state of complete fatigue do not waste it, the best time to stretch this during this period.

jekyllnhyde360 · Oct 8, 2019

V-TAX said:
1. How Long are your session(and what exercice for) ? - 45 minutes of clamping (15 min x 3) then 30 min pumping.

2. And usually how many kegels did you do a day ? - I dont count, i just do them. I have always maintained my expansion all day, everything from 60-95% through the entire day. wheter i do kegels or not. So these last days are new to me, that my expansion just goes away and is SO much less expansion.

3. have you recently gotten an injury or something that could hurt a lot your EQ ? - Nope

4. Also what where your rythm before going evry day PE ? - I`ve done PE every day now for 1.5 weeks now, and I have never done this before. Before I started on this, I did my routine above on point 1, every other day. and on the other day, I did only pumping, which never resulted in what im experiencing now and these past days.

I will and must do more kegels, I have realized now i need to do even more!

Over training girth, i've done this many times. it's just your dick telling you to chill for a bit. i've literally freaked myself out thinking about it aswell, to the point i couldnt get hard at all, like a semi cocked noodle, but after a week i was fine. you're fine, just need rest. you were massively training expansion.

DLD · Oct 8, 2019

jekyllnhyde360 said:
Over training girth, i've done this many times. it's just your dick telling you to chill for a bit. i've literally freaked myself out thinking about it aswell, to the point i couldnt get hard at all, like a semi cocked noodle, but after a week i was fine. you're fine, just need rest. you were massively training expansion.

Yes with girth work there needs to be rest so EQ can return 100%. You will need to plan your routines around the time that you’ll need your best EQ. When EQ is suffering it’s the best time for you to stretch. You have to figure out a system that will work best for you around when you need EQ to be high.

V-TAX · Oct 13, 2019

jekyllnhyde360 said:
Over training girth, i've done this many times. it's just your dick telling you to chill for a bit. i've literally freaked myself out thinking about it aswell, to the point i couldnt get hard at all, like a semi cocked noodle, but after a week i was fine. you're fine, just need rest. you were massively training expansion.

I`m so greatfull for you sharing this, I`m glad someone has experienced the same. Yeah, exactly, like an unusable noodle. Yeah I have to rest, I was freaking out, but will for sure get that expansion again and make it last once I heal and build up to it once again, just have to be weary when I get there that I do every other day instead of every day.

jekyllnhyde360 · Oct 14, 2019

V-TAX said:
I`m so greatfull for you sharing this, I`m glad someone has experienced the same. Yeah, exactly, like an unusable noodle. Yeah I have to rest, I was freaking out, but will for sure get that expansion again and make it last once I heal and build up to it once again, just have to be weary when I get there that I do every other day instead of every day.

Exactly, you'll be 100% in no time at all

The James · Oct 15, 2019

DLD said:
You know what my thoughts are going to be LOL the more the better in my opinion. I got to where I got to because I trained every day for 12 hours. I never took a day off and I was always pushing intensity creating new exercises or tools or some other angle to increase my ability to gain.

12 hours! Shit! That's why those gains. I'm trying to do what you did but with the very best gear and supplements available now. I believed you reaping what you were sowing I want to gain fast also. I don't know about 12 hours though. I'm not saying I won't go there however.

huge-girth · Oct 15, 2019

The James said:
12 hours! Shit! That's why those gains. I'm trying to do what you did but with the very best gear and supplements available now. I believed you reaping what you were sowing I want to gain fast also. I don't know about 12 hours though. I'm not saying I won't go there however.

Just do what is you are capable of. The moat important thing is consistency.

DLD · Oct 15, 2019

The James said:
12 hours! Shit! That's why those gains. I'm trying to do what you did but with the very best gear and supplements available now. I believed you reaping what you were sowing I want to gain fast also. I don't know about 12 hours though. I'm not saying I won't go there however.

Probably a lot more than I needed but I was obsessed with getting as big as possible as fast as possible.

V-TAX · Oct 24, 2019

jekyllnhyde360 said:
Exactly, you'll be 100% in no time at all

I have tried a few light to medium workouts since i stopped, but my penis is completely annihilated, I can hardly get an erection... I just have to be patient, even though I hate being patient.

DLD · Oct 25, 2019

V-TAX said:
I have tried a few light to medium workouts since i stopped, but my penis is completely annihilated, I can hardly get an erection... I just have to be patient, even though I hate being patient.

What have you been doing to help with these EQ issues?

V-TAX · Oct 25, 2019

DLD said:
What have you been doing to help with these EQ issues?

Nothing but rest, been doing some kegels, but since its not a habit yet I forget it all the time, but now I`ve just been reminded of it again.

V-TAX · Nov 10, 2019

DLD said:
What have you been doing to help with these EQ issues?

DLD, do you agree with this? its from a big girth gainer, aristocane from thundersplace:

question from some user:
I believe you stated in your post that you don’t believe in taking breaks for healing, does that mean your “member” was always in semi-fatigue or soreness mode?

answer from aristocane:
The longer you wait between sessions or even sets in a session for that matter, the more time you give the tunica to retract back to its normal size. Bottom line, you’ve gotta keep your penis in a constant expanded state PAST its normal size. If you’re back to your exact same size come the next session, its like the first session was moot and never counted.

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