LM uncut problems and solution?

Good day brothers. The day before yesterday, my Length Master arrived in the mail. I was pretty excited about it, because I had read so many great reviews. But I was also a little apprehensive because of one crucial problem. I am uncut! I have been playing around with PE for almost 4 decades, and have tried almost every enlargement device out there, including The Grip (similar to the Phallosan), at least 5 different pumps, including electric, both sizes of the bib hanger, an X4 extender,etc. etc. But particularly when it comes to stretching, I have always encountered the same problem: THE WRAP! Wrapping for cut men IS NOT the same as it is for uncut. For those of us who are uncut, the foreskin gets in the way and "pinching" occurs, regardless of which wrap I've used or it's placement. The pain is excruciating! For you cut guts who hang or stretch comfortably with the LM, imagine that while you are stretching, someone grabs a fold of skin near the head of your dick and pinches it as hard as he can. Now, imagine feeling that all through your workout! And then, assuming you manage to endure the pain for 20 minutes or longer, you remove the LM and the wrap, only to discover the front of your foreskin is swollen with fluid and remains so for at least a full day. I have been trying to find a way to successfully wrap and do a stretch routine without pain for years, since way back when I had the bib hangers. But man, it just does not work!!!! At least not for me. I have read of a couple of guys on the forums who have been successful, but far more who have not. And I'm sure there must be more, especially in Europe where the circumcision rate is much lower than in the US or Canada. So, In short, I have my LM, but am unable to really use it without being in agony and experiencing long lasting fluid swelling. I can use the Power assist to some extent, but even that is painful because I have not found a way to grip behind the head and pull without being painful. Sometimes REALLY painful! To be clear, it's not ligament pull-type pain. No, it's just really sensitive skin and pinching. I have endured years of frustration, and if every hour I've spent trying to find a solution to this problem were spent in actual training, I would be giving __________ a run for his money by now LOL. But seriously, this is a huge problem. So, I am considering two options: Selling my LM and throwing in the towel, simply realizing I cannot and will not ever be able to do this. By the way, girth work is no problem. It is pain free and only issue is fluid buildup is if use the Hydromax X40, which I just received about a week ago. The other option is this: Get circumcised! I did a google search this morning and found a clinic in Vancouver that does routine adult circumcisions for about $1000.00, which is considerably less than I've spent on PE equipment and paraphernalia over the years. I am seriously considering this option, and may give the clinic a call next week. I would probably have to lay off PE for several months, but at least when I returned, I might have at least a chance of making this shit work. And to be clear, there are other reasons I'm considering circumcision unrelated to PE, such as aesthetics, hygiene etc. It's been an issue for me all my adult life and I think I've found the only real solution. Any feedback would be interesting and welcome.

Cheers
Fillerup

There is a 3rd option, retract your foreskin so you can wrap below your head and attach there. Do you have issues with retracting foreskin, is it too sensitive? If this be the case there are things you can do to reduce the sensitivity. Pinching and pain happen due to a poor wrap that either is too loose, has wrinkles or creases in the wrap or other minor things that can cause this. I suggest really investing time in retraction and a new wrapping style. The gains that can be made with the LengthMaster are second to none. It is worth the time and effort to master this.

check-out BeardedBaldy's wrapping video he just uploaded

Big Schwanz Acht;743680 said:

check-out BeardedBaldy's wrapping video he just uploaded

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Here is the link: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...engthmaster-videos-post742946.html#post742946

I appreciate your reply DLD. But I must point out that I've been playing this game for, not years, but decades. I've tried every wrap combination I can think of. Retracting the foreskin? I do that every time. But it does not matter how I wrap, how much I pull the foreskin, how I try to avoid wrinkles in the wrap(s), etc. I always get pinched in some way that is terribly painful. Like I said, I had both Bib Hangers, which employ a similar gripping method to the LM. Occasionally, but rarely, I could get a grip that was painful, but bearable, and allowed me to hang for 10-15 minutes. Even had an X4 extender for a while, but that got to be painful too. Eventually, a couple years back, I through them all out. I figured I was done with PE. Now I kind of regret it, at least for the X4 because I think I could have made it work. But that's history. Bottom line is: Having a foreskin, for a lot of us uncut guys, is extremely problematic in areas taken for granted by cut men. I expect the biggest issues consist of 2 things: 1) all this extra skin provides so many more possibilities/probabilities of pinching, and (2) greatly increased sensitivity of the glans and tissues behind the glans, which of course makes the whole process much more uncomfortable and painful. I wish there was some magical wrap solution to this, but nothing in all these years has worked for me. I have watched Beardedbaldy's video, and it sounds great, but you will also notice that he points out that he does not know how this would work for uncut men. Well, it doesn't. At least not for me. Too much skin to work with. It just gets in the way at every turn. I agree, the LM is a great Idea, and I can certainly see it's potential as a powerful stretcher. But how do you do them when it hurts like a son of a bitch!!! For now, I just do manual stretches (which still hurt, just not as much) and the power assist for fulcrum stretches, which also are quite painful but manageable. In a 20 minute session, I've worked up a bit of a sweat, but most of it is due to pain endurance, rather than physical effort. In the meantime, although I just received the LM last week, I cannot use it, which is a real bummer. Perhaps down the road with this fucking foreskin gone! Sorry if I sound a little pissed. It is not directed at any of you fine gentlemen. Just a product of years of frustration.

Fillerup;743823 said:

I appreciate your reply DLD. But I must point out that I've been playing this game for, not years, but decades. I've tried every wrap combination I can think of. Retracting the foreskin? I do that every time. But it does not matter how I wrap, how much I pull the foreskin, how I try to avoid wrinkles in the wrap(s), etc. I always get pinched in some way that is terribly painful. Like I said, I had both Bib Hangers, which employ a similar gripping method to the LM. Occasionally, but rarely, I could get a grip that was painful, but bearable, and allowed me to hang for 10-15 minutes. Even had an X4 extender for a while, but that got to be painful too. Eventually, a couple years back, I through them all out. I figured I was done with PE. Now I kind of regret it, at least for the X4 because I think I could have made it work. But that's history. Bottom line is: Having a foreskin, for a lot of us uncut guys, is extremely problematic in areas taken for granted by cut men. I expect the biggest issues consist of 2 things: 1) all this extra skin provides so many more possibilities/probabilities of pinching, and (2) greatly increased sensitivity of the glans and tissues behind the glans, which of course makes the whole process much more uncomfortable and painful. I wish there was some magical wrap solution to this, but nothing in all these years has worked for me. I have watched Beardedbaldy's video, and it sounds great, but you will also notice that he points out that he does not know how this would work for uncut men. Well, it doesn't. At least not for me. Too much skin to work with. It just gets in the way at every turn. I agree, the LM is a great Idea, and I can certainly see it's potential as a powerful stretcher. But how do you do them when it hurts like a son of a bitch!!! For now, I just do manual stretches (which still hurt, just not as much) and the power assist for fulcrum stretches, which also are quite painful but manageable. In a 20 minute session, I've worked up a bit of a sweat, but most of it is due to pain endurance, rather than physical effort. In the meantime, although I just received the LM last week, I cannot use it, which is a real bummer. Perhaps down the road with this fucking foreskin gone! Sorry if I sound a little pissed. It is not directed at any of you fine gentlemen. Just a product of years of frustration.

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All that pain no matter what you do does not sound like any fun at all. I feel bad that this is an issue for you especially for how much time you have invested. I hate to say it but you already did, maybe a circ. is in the cards. If the foreskin is causing pain and preventing you from making the gains you desire than go for it!

doublelongdaddy;743863 said:

All that pain no matter what you do does not sound like any fun at all. I feel bad that this is an issue for you especially for how much time you have invested. I hate to say it but you already did, maybe a circ. is in the cards. If the foreskin is causing pain and preventing you from making the gains you desire than go for it!

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So true, my friend! And it's not just the pain. I've always felt "different" being uncut. I live in Canada where, same as the US, most men are cut, though the numbers are decreasing. But when I was in high school, I was the only one in my gym class who was uncut. And being as we all had to shower together, well, you get the picture. The only decision now is: when? I'm thinking in the spring, maybe march or april. That way, I can work with PE over the winter as best I can. Then I can allow time to heal going into summer when I'm much more active. I'm having less difficulty with manual stretching. Perhaps it's because enduring so much pain is toughening up the tissue. Did a 20 minute bundled stretch routine this morning for 20 minutes and it was a little painful, but less than in the past. I'm also thinking of getting an ADS, even though I had one (the X4), so I'm wondering what you would recommend. I'm looking at either the PF or the PMP. I like the fact that the PMP has a stretcher as well as a belt, but I don't like the idea of having to use creams all the time. And I like the idea of the PF being able to be used during sleep. Real bonus! On the other hand, the PF has it's downside in that you don't have an actual extender (should have never thrown out my x4). Plus I hear that sleeves wear out regularly, although this is also true of some components of the PMP. I've also heard that the PMP provides greater pull than the PF, but I'm not sure. All I know is that it would be great to do PE without pain, and either of these would probably work. I have no problems with girth work. Jelqing, compression squeezes and clamping work well. I also employ the hydromax X40, which I purchased through your site. I was a little disappointed, though, when I discovered I could have ordered it directly through bathmate and saved myself about $60. I ordered it here, and paid $199, but it was in US dollars, so cost me an additional $60 for the currency exchange. If I had purchased directly through BM, it would still be $199, but in Canadian funds, and free shipping. Oh well...

so, what do you recommend? The PF or PMP?

Cheers
Fillerup

Sorry for the double post. Don't know how that happened.

Tough choice between the 2 as they both have incredible and unique features as you have stated. I prefer the Phallosan as it can be worn for so much time and time is so important in PE. I also like the conceivability it provides, no one will ever know you have it on. The intensity is great and in all directions. But the PeniMasterPro does give more intensity and as you stated the belt and stretching advantages. I guess for me it would be time over intensity since intensity is plenty with the Phallosan.

The plan for the circumcision sounds good. You will need some recovery time so when things are slow is best. It usually takes between 7 to 10 days for a circumcised penis to heal from the procedure. As it is healing things will look messy but have no worries it will clear up quickly. I would say 21 days in you should be able to start PE again. I think this is the right move, not being circumcised in western culture is not that common so if this brings you more confidence, that is another bonus.

Thanks DLD. I'm just reviewing their site a little and will probably place an order next week. I'm also considering buying an extender, but I don't think the high end ones are necessary. there are tons of cheaper ones on eBay and elsewhere and as long as you have the rods and a cradle, you should be able to create something nearly identical to the "Phallogenetics."

Fillerup;744124 said:

Thanks DLD. I'm just reviewing their site a little and will probably place an order next week. I'm also considering buying an extender, but I don't think the high end ones are necessary. there are tons of cheaper ones on eBay and elsewhere and as long as you have the rods and a cradle, you should be able to create something nearly identical to the "Phallogenetics."

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That may work ok, it is cheap enough to try anyway, right?