Is AIDS beeing forgotten?!

3. It is a fact that it is very rare for heterosexual males to contract HIV/AIDS from vaginal sex

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Thats exacly what i mean about insuficant information about this virus, i dono where you got that info from but you can absolutly get AIDS form vaginal contact exacly as fast as from anal contact.

I was talking to a guy on a chat room today who had an interesting theory. He was saying that HIV does not cause AIDS and also that HIV and AIDS are not harmful at all. He was telling us that HIV and AIDS only kill people because of the drugs people take with them. People get ill and die with AIDS because of the manufactured drugs. His advice for anyone who gets HIV or AIDS is to simply do nothing, carry on as normal but don't take recreational drugs. He was also saying that if everyone got tested for HIV and AIDS, loads more people would have it than you actually think but we don't get ill because it is not harmful.

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sorry but that's absolut bullshit. If that would be true nobody would ever have noticed this virus. I mean it was first discoverd after people were looking why hundreds of people who had a lot of unprotected sexual contact startet dieying. Why spend years of work finding a medicin to help against this virus if nobody was affected anyway? It ain't like they found it and said ( hey look here is the stuff what will keep you alive longer). Why do thousends of people in the 3erd world die of this virus even if they havn't even got any kind of medizin?

Give it 10-20 years and a Virus like AIDS will seem like a sunday stroll.

hopful said:

sorry but that's absolut bullshit. If that would be true nobody would ever have noticed this virus. I mean it was first discoverd after people were looking why hundreds of people who had a lot of unprotected sexual contact startet dieying. Why spend years of work finding a medicin to help against this virus if nobody was affected anyway? It ain't like they found it and said ( hey look here is the stuff what will keep you alive longer). Why do thousends of people in the 3erd world die of this virus even if they havn't even got any kind of medizin?

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I just read this: http://www.duesberg.com/faq.html really interesting.
I'm not an expert on the theory behind this but I'll try to answer from what this guy is saying:
OK, AIDS is suppose to be caused by recreational drugs and medical drugs so people would have started to get AIDS because of taking drugs like a lot of gays got sick from taking poppers.
"For example, in the US spending for recreational drugs peaked at $91 billion in 1988 and steadily dropped to $53.7 billion in 1995. Likewise the rapid increase of AIDS in the 1980s corresponded to the emergence of the explosive epidemics of recreational drug use in the US and Europe in the 1980s"

To answer your question on the 3rd world people:
"A whole chapter of IAV explains why African AIDS is different. The African AIDS epidemic has only one thing in common with the American/European AIDS epidemic - the name. African AIDS is caused by malnutrition, parasitic infection and poor sanitation. There are no risk groups in Africa, like drug addicts and homosexuals. Moreover, practically no African AIDS patients have pneumocystis pneumonia, dementia or Kaposi's sarcoma - the signal diseases of AIDS in the US and Europe."

That's all I can think of just now. The more I start to read all this the more I start to believe it. All the questions you can probably think of, the answers are on those sites I posted before.

emm..

African AIDS is caused by malnutrition, parasitic infection and poor sanitation

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lol??

Man you are scarring me! Do you as a grown and educated man who has access to the internet really think that?

I know that:
malnutrition causes people to die but doesn't get them infected with AIDS.

parasitic infection cause Malaria but not AIDS.

poor sanitation causes the Pest but not AIDS.

It doesn't Matter where on earth you are, AIDS is always infected in the same.

Sorry but i can't think of any words to say right now, I'm kinda shoked.

ok man, please do me a favor and just read this:

http://www.who.int/topics/hiv_infections/en/

You should find all the infos you nedd and should know there!

This is quite intresting aswell:

www.unaids.org

Aids just like cancer, IT"S CURABLE! ALot and I repeat, alot of money is made from the drugs that claim to keep you alive for years. Imagine for a second if you owned or had a large % in ownership of some of the pharmaceutical companys that produce and distribute these DRUGS. MAkes no economic sense to distribute a cure..

I dont know about Cancer being curable. AIDS should be as it is man made. The problem is if they release a cure to diseases like that, how do they stop the idiots from over populating the world?..

As you and I both know its the un-educated people having the most kids.

Seeing how goddamn stupid some of you people here at MOS are is a real bummer. Whoever the moronic asshole is who suggested that America created AIDS to control world population...well your just a fucking shit head pal. Seriously.

Well when you read declassified documents coming from open sources for information it kinda puts things into perspective.

The reason the US government would be able to get away with so much stuff is because the majority of the population chooses to ignore.

What about those Yikiki experiments (or however you spell it) where the gov't gave black kids in the southern states with no education siphilis. Injected it into them telling them they had bad blood. Trying to prove that black and white people have different genetics. Once that surfaced and hit the media I suppose that was all bull shit too??

I must admit though, after I read documents like that and see footage and proof it would be a lot easier for me to be ignorant and forget the whole thing. I probably just would if I lived in the US.

Let me guess, you actually believe that the AIDS virus came from some guy humping a monkey?. Have you been to a jungle and seen a monkey?? good like trying to catch one and if you did and got your dick near it, it would rip it right off.

hopful said:

Thats exacly what i mean about insuficant information about this virus, i dono where you got that info from but you can absolutly get AIDS form vaginal contact exacly as fast as from anal contact.

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Sorry, you are wrong. This can be both observed in general as well as proven by statistics. The transmission rate for heterosexual vaginal sex is very low. It is also easier for females to contract than males. Easier to get from a seminal fluid or rectal lining/tear/blood,etc than from vaginal. I would be more concerned about getting HIV from blood than from heterosexual sex (non-anal type). Also, how come whenever there is an AIDS outbreak in the adult industry( for example), 1 guy will become infected ( usually from either a shemale or anal/female) and then spread it to a handful or more females, yet no more males ever get it. Example, lets say porner male DJ fucks some brazillian whore ( in ass of course), gets HIV then does anal creampies with 10 girls, 3-4 of whom get HIV. Then those 3-4 females who are HIV+ fuck a bunch of ���� studs over the next 15-30 days (before they can catch the test results and quarantine) but none of those dudes catch it.

Enough with the PC bullshit. Everyone should be careful, but some people are certainly at highest risk. For example, heres a word of advice to any ladies: If your Boyfriend is DL or just is a guy who is "bisexual" or fucks other guys, you are much more likely to get HIV. Its sad.

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I dont know about Cancer being curable. AIDS should be as it is man made. The problem is if they release a cure to diseases like that, how do they stop the idiots from over populating the world?..

As you and I both know its the un-educated people having the most kids.

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I can tell you for a fact that a dr stated in a seminar near my hometown a few years back that there has actually been a cure for cancer for many years. However, chemotherapy is a multi billion dollar a year indusrty and too much revenue would be lost if they did not use the chemo.

My mom died this spring with cancer. She was never able to take the chemo she was too sick for the drug. Had she been able to take it , it would have been 4500.00 a treatment/weekly.


Cooper, it is VERY believable when you see some of the stuff that gets ignored or covered up by the goverment here or those in authority.. Did you reallize that it was considered quackery before world war one for a doctor to wash his hands before performing surgery on his patient. Our American Medical Association would revoke a doctors liscense if he was caught washing his hands. Somewhere close to 3 million womes died in childbirth because of this very act. Lots of this stupid shit is still on the books today.

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I can tell you for a fact that a dr stated in a seminar near my hometown a few years back that there has actually been a cure for cancer for many years. However, chemotherapy is a multi billion dollar a year indusrty and too much revenue would be lost if they did not use the chemo.

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Good info. I was always wondering about cancer but I haven't done much digging and research on it so I am un-educated about it.

---What about those Yikiki experiments (or however you spell it) where the gov't gave black kids in the southern states with no education siphilis. Injected it into them telling them they had bad blood. Trying to prove that black and white people have different genetics. Once that surfaced and hit the media I suppose that was all bull shit too??---

For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated for “bad blood,”1 their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis at all. The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis—which can include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. “As I see it,” one of the doctors involved explained, “we have no further interest in these patients until they die.

Is that what your talking about Kausion? The doctors that did that are mother fuckers. No one is denying that. People have always and continue to do awful things to others. If not of a different race, then a different name, different belief system...etc. America stops that shit. Who else has? America is not the enemy of the world. We are an easy target for other nations that cant get it together. Blame America, not themselves. Besides conspiracy theories are fun, right?


---Let me guess, you actually believe that the AIDS virus came from some guy humping a monkey?. Have you been to a jungle and seen a monkey?? good like trying to catch one and if you did and got your dick near it, it would rip it right off.--------


Disease is passed from animal to man all the time. Nothing new there. The Black Death was given to humans by fleas on rats. Killed tons of people in the middle ages. Who was responsible for that kausion? Let me guess the illuminati? Grow up man. There is no Santa Claus you know what Im sayin?

If you do basic searches you will see that prior to 1975 the US gov't had a main goal of controlling the population in Third world countries. Magically enough in 1975 the first cases of AIDS had turned up.

From what also I read near the end of WW2 nazi scientists who knew it was over realized that if the Russians found them they would be dead. They strategically placed themselves in certain parts of Europe to be purposely caught by the Americans. Those same scientist were taken in, in order to give up their secrets and to conduct experiments. They were given very high ranking positions and one of which was at one point the head of NASA. Seeing to how these people were already developing diseases and such it wouldn't be hard for them to create another one since the two sides would have similiar interests.

Other experiments to which documents are also now de-classified state how the US gov't paid Israel to conduct certain experiments on its people. Experiments concerning X-rays.

I never said anything about the Illuminati being behind that. But the illuminati does run your country don't forget. Also you may want to read up on what they actually are if you don't already know. Then you can read about their final goals which can't be ficticious because they were written by elitests themselves. Also very recent events coming into play like they state they would.

If you are open-minded enough to see the possibility of a conspiracy theory, why not be open-minded enough to accept what is commonly believed as the more truthful? Conspiracy theorizing could be seen as a reflection of a narcissistic tendency of the ego. One might want to feel special and therefore satisfies this desire by clinging to a less common belief. I see this all the time in purists, those cats who ONLY LISTEN TO INDEPenis EnlargementNDENT BANDS, underground this, underground that. It's bullshit. You know what-- sometimes pop music is the better music all around. Why? Because maybe it's not preaching messages promote fear, anger or whatever. It's like saying who is a better hip-hop artist, Fifty-cent or Nelly? You have one side saying Nelly is fake, soft whatever. Who cares he's an entertainer? Why do we need a hardcore drug-dealing, gun wielding gangster to preach some bs about selling crack and being hard. Why can't we sit back and enjoy the sili song telling you to shake your tail feather? Then there are the even more difficult purists who will tell you anything you hear on the radio is garbage. Anything you've heard mentioned in garbage and so forth. Accept that there are different views on the world. Yours isn't THE ONE, the truth, the fact. For all you know you could be in an insane asylum and dreaming your whole reality up. Who are you to argue otherwise? No one here has the awareness to discern truth definitively.

Illuminati very well could be true. In my opinion, it's highly unlikely.

curiousG said:

If you are open-minded enough to see the possibility of a conspiracy theory, why not be open-minded enough to accept what is commonly believed as the more truthful? Conspiracy theorizing could be seen as a reflection of a narcissistic tendency of the ego. One might want to feel special and therefore satisfies this desire by clinging to a less common belief. I see this all the time in purists, those cats who ONLY LISTEN TO INDEPenis EnlargementNDENT BANDS, underground this, underground that. It's bullshit. You know what-- sometimes pop music is the better music all around. Why? Because maybe it's not preaching messages promote fear, anger or whatever. It's like saying who is a better hip-hop artist, Fifty-cent or Nelly? You have one side saying Nelly is fake, soft whatever. Who cares he's an entertainer? Why do we need a hardcore drug-dealing, gun wielding gangster to preach some bs about selling crack and being hard. Why can't we sit back and enjoy the sili song telling you to shake your tail feather? Then there are the even more difficult purists who will tell you anything you hear on the radio is garbage. Anything you've heard mentioned in garbage and so forth. Accept that there are different views on the world. Yours isn't THE ONE, the truth, the fact. For all you know you could be in an insane asylum and dreaming your whole reality up. Who are you to argue otherwise? No one here has the awareness to discern truth definitively.

Illuminati very well could be true. In my opinion, it's highly unlikely.

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Do not assume that because I speak of this I am clinging to fear or I think I am a purist.

Grab a history book and watch how it repeats itself time and time again. It's not so much thinking things are a conspiracy, it's more about accepting all views of this world. You believe what you believe which is good for you. People refuse to believe certain things because it is too horrific and they would be happier not knowing about it. I take anything someone says into consideration because I am open minded. Tell me the sun didn't come up this morning and I will take that into consideration as well.

I prefer underground music because those performers are bringing forth their best talent. They aren't just saying what people want to hear in order to turn a profit. Once a person realizes they can be half assesed at something and still make money, what's the point in giving it your all? There isn't.

As far as the Illuminati being true. Maybe you aren't educated on the subject at all. It is stated in their protocol that they wrote in the sole purpose of being discovered. So yes it is true. That would be no different than me telling you there is no Christianity even though there is a bible. But how does one know that the events taking place in the bible even existed?. The earliest bible known to date is from around the 13th century. How do we know its not all made up. How do we know it wasn't re-written in the 13th century. The answer is we don't. Yet people believe.

I believe in a world with balance. I believe in Christianity. To do that one has to believe the possibility of Satanism. If Jesus came down to earth, someone else would have had to do the same from the other side of the spectrum. If there is a religion that worships the good, there must be something worshiping the bad. Everything is balanced. Believing there is ultimate good without ultimate evil doesn't make sense. If that was the case man would not be able to be harmed or get sick or anything else bad that happens.

If I am in a asylum dreaming my reality up then that would make you equally insane as you have responded to my comment. Or did I make you up??

Matter is mearly energy condensed to a slow moving vibration. We are all one conciousness experiencing itself psycogenically. There is no such thing as death because life is just a dream and we are the imagination of ourselfs... lol

Opposites are an illusion. One can understand this on an intellectual basis through and understanding of enlightenment (or transcending the opposites). I highly highly recommend the book Power vs. Force by Dr. David R. Hawkins even though many of you won't bother

I can see some opposites being an illusion. Such as opposites regarding ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism]. But like I said earlier, opposites like good and evil being an illusion wouldn't make sense. What you are saying does not back up the fact that there is bad in this world unless this whole world is an "illusion".

This author you speak of is he talking about absolute opposites. If he is I would like to know what his take on life is. I can look around and see good and evil so if that is an illusion so is everything else.

Bad requires a positionality and bias. It is false. There is no good or bad. There are only different levels of awareness and the behaviors that present themselves in those situations. The truely enlightened are accepting of all existence in the way it is. People cannot help be who they are. So in one sense, no, there is no good or bad. One can look at things as either supportive of life or conducive to it. Even labelling something such as a door is false. Everything is only itself. Everything is equal due to the divinity of it's existence. Everything is part of the same miraculous spectacle that is existence in it's entirety.