truant;421907 said:
Hey, I was searching on amazon after reading one of Supra's ball stretching threads and found this...

http://www.amazon.com/Climax-Metal-..._1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1300973925&sr=1-1

The inner diameter is 1.5 inches or 38mm which is perfect. It weighs almost the same as the real WMC weights found at secret leather which are too pricey.

Hi truant, Yes, I'd been considering doing the same thing. I think the shaft collars will work. What I'm concerned about are sharp edges. There may be some filing and sanding to do to make the edges smooth.

Dan

My question is are they safe to wear around your balls for long periods of time? Thank you
 
doublelongdaddy;422052 said:
As a weight? How much does each ring weigh?

I get the idea looking at the McMaster carr website that the shaft collars are probably similar in weight to regular ball weights. Maybe slightly less in weight. But.... the price is right at: 13 to 17 dollars a piece. Worth a try. I will try them in the next month or so and let you guys know.

Dan
 
Yeah exactly, they probably weigh a little less but you can't go wrong for the price. I saw a good selection of ID 1-1/2 collars on amazon but if you want other sizes they could be more money or ad least on that site. For example, you would need a two piece model and if you want a wider one like around 40mm to 42mm you might want to look into that. I'm going to search around some more and report back. Thanks for feedback guys, I would also be grateful to know Supra's opinion on this matter. :)
 
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Btw I was browsing the site Dan mentioned and found the 40mm. It doesn't mention the weight but they say the width aka height of the collar is 15mm. That's the same height as the wmc ball weights which is a good sign. On Supra's thread he said something like it's better to use two 15mm tall weights instead of a single weight that has a height of 30mm. Like Dan said it would be great to find one with a seamless design for comfort, but if anything I'm shore you could file down the steel.
 
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I'm also getting a pipe repair clamp as Kingsnake mentioned for hanging when I order the shaft collars. Instead of the captain's wench for hanging because the clamp is made of steel instead of Velcro and comes out to be cheaper. The 2'' wide one for comfort so I can add extra padding so it can act similar to the BIB. That combined the two 40mm shaft collars comes out to under $50 which is sweet. Wearing these things over time and using them as [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] looks promising to me and I love the fact that it's made of solid steel which will last forever.
 
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Yes, I'd agree truant. Can't go wrong for the price. You're welcome for the feedback, thanks for yours as well. I'd been thinking about doing this for years and now is finally the time to try it. Good luck to you.

Dan
 
truant;422134 said:
Btw I was browsing the site Dan mentioned and found the 40mm. It doesn't mention the weight but they say the width aka height of the collar is 15mm. That's the same height as the wmc ball weights which is a good sign. On Supra's thread he said something like it's better to use two 15mm tall weights instead of a single weight that has a height of 30mm. Like Dan said it would be great to find one with a seamless design for comfort, but if anything I'm shore you could file down the steel.
I would agree with Supra by the way. From what I've observed, its easier to deal with stacking (especially when first starting out if the ballsack is high and tight) than to deal with one ball weight that is very thick.

Dan
 
truant;422137 said:
I'm also getting a pipe repair clamp as Kingsnake mentioned for hanging when I order the shaft collars. Instead of the captain's wench for hanging because the clamp is made of steel instead of Velcro and comes out to be cheaper. The 2'' wide one for comfort so I can add extra padding so it can act similar to the BIB. That combined the two 40mm shaft collars comes out to under $50 which is sweet. Wearing these things over time and using them as [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] looks promising to me and I love the fact that it's made of solid steel which will last forever.

Hey truant, could you guide me to the thread that Kingsnake talks about this by chance? That sounds cool, I may do the same thing as my next step is to do some hanging. Thanks!

Dan
 
Glad to help a fellow Penis Enlargementer and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] member. Thank you for your input and mentioning the the mc master car site which actually gave me some good ideas. They seem to to be on point with their measurements but the collars are little more pricey than the one's on amazon. I was just thinking maybe the shaft collars made of stainless steel would be better for a few reasons. Such as durability reasons, being safer on the skin, looks, and the fact the SS may even weigh an ounce or two extra. Thanks so much for helping me make the right choice. :)
 
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truant;422225 said:
Glad to help a fellow Penis Enlargementer and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] member. Thank you for your input and mentioning the the mc master car site which actually gave me some good ideas. They seem to to be on point with their measurements but the collars are little more pricey than the one's on amazon. I was just thinking maybe the shaft collars made of stainless steel would be better for a few reasons. Such as durability reasons, being safer on the skin, looks, and the fact the SS may even weigh an ounce or two extra. Thanks so much for helping me make the right choice. :)

You are very welcome truant! Thank you again as well! Yes, it doesn't any better than all of us helping each other. I bet you are right in your thinking on the SS collars. If you can afford them, I would go that route for sure. McMaster Carr was recommended on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] by others a few years back, so I give the credit right back to the website. Mike has a wonderful place here and I'm happy to help out however I can.

Dan
 
Thanks for the quick response Dan you took the words right out of my mouth, this site is awesome. Didn't know the MC site was mentioned on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] years back that's cool. The SS collars on MC are over $40. I was looking on amazon and found this...

http://www.amazon.com/Climax-Metal-..._1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1301176901&sr=1-1

This is the only SS collar with workable measurements I saw on amazon. The selection is narrow but the price is right, plus you will get the free shipping. The the pipe repair clamp is cheaper there as well...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000DZF76E/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=hi&psc=1

Thank you again on the support, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is really helping me out with decision making.
 
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truant;422233 said:
Thanks for the quick response Dan you took the words right out of my mouth, this site is awesome. Didn't know the MC site was mentioned on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] years back that's cool. The SS collars on MC are over $40. I was looking on amazon and found this...

http://www.amazon.com/Climax-Metal-..._1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1301176901&sr=1-1

This is the only SS collar with workable measurements I saw on amazon. The selection is narrow but the price is right, plus you will get the free shipping. The the pipe repair clamp is cheaper there as well...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000DZF76E/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=hi&psc=1

Thank you again on the support, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is really helping me out with decision making.

It is indeed an awesome site! Everyone is very supportive here. Thank you very much for the links truant, I will check them out! Cheaper is usually better for me and free shipping is a bonus. You're very welcome for the support and promptness. A HUGE thanks to all on this site!

Dan
 
truant;422236 said:
Here's the link for the shark tarp clips...

http://www.amazon.com/USA-Pro-Grip-...ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1301180969&sr=8-1

I'm thinking about using the pipe repair clamp for hanging and for an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] under my clothes. I think the whole setup can be concealed under loose clothing.

Wonderful! Thanks truant. I will take a look. Sounds like you have a good plan for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], best of luck with it!

Dan
 
Hey guy's back with an update. I've decided to go with the Mcmaster carr site and purchase two 40mm ID black oxide steel shaft collars. Last night I was looking on the secret leather site again and saw a new product called the Ball Forcer...

http://www.secretleather.com/acatalog/Ball_Trainer.html

This gave me an idea ;). My plan is to get four 12 inch long metal rods and cut them down to size to make different stretch lengths as shown in the link (6 inches being the longest rod). Then I would just have to drill holes into the shaft collars with a regular drill. The diameter of the rods will be 5mm because the width of the collars is 15mm so the 5mm wide rod would fit right in the middle. The best part is it comes out to just above $40 in my cart. Let me know what you guys think.

Here's the link to the shaft collars

http://www.mcmaster.com/#shaft-collars/=bq8zyk

Link to metal rods

http://www.mcmaster.com/#steel-discs/=bq90yu

Wearing this all day long with manual ball stretching should get you a nice pair of low hangers. Right now I'm actually deciding if I should get the collars or just pay $50 more and just get the real [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] even though I have a homemade one :). Maybe someone can help make my decision. Thanks
 
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Also just to let you know, the ball forcer on the SL site looks like it uses only one spacer rod instead of two to make the stretch. So you may not need as much rods as I mentioned because I thought it used two rods to push it up. I guess just less rods to cut and holes to drill in the steel lol. You may also want to file down the inner edges of the shaft collars or wear a sock underneath. The smallest rod they have increased the stretch height by 25mm so I think 25mm is the size of the smallest rod. Then just do your math to find the length of the other rods. A six inch long rod as I mentioned is probably a bit too liberal, if your just starting out but who knows.
 
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Hey guys just want to let you know that I got my package from Mcmaster today. I ordered it early on Monday and got it this Wednesday morning. The packaging on the shaft collars says Ruland on it, the same company that Supra mentioned on his BE thread. When I picked the shaft collars up I was surprised how heavy they felt especially the combined weight of the two is pretty hefty. They feel like real weights and the black oxide is smooth and not grainy like I was expecting. I'm also happy to say that the 5mm diameter rods will fit perfect between the the two collars to create that stretch, they couldn't have been a better size. It didn't come with an Allen key but I had a couple laying around that fit.

I also ordered materials for the Captain's wench including a large alchemy cock ring on amazon. In place of the cable clamps and nylon webbing I just ordered a 100 pack of the Velcro straps which will take the place of those two items. The alchemy ring has an outer diameter of 60mm and so does the shaft collars. When I'm used to wearing the two collars I can stack the alchemy ring between the two shaft collars. I want to use the ring for after my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] girth sessions and maybe while doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words].

All in all I'm very pleased with the purchase. The weight and the heavy industrial type feel of the collars is what got me excited because they are like real ball weights you buy in the adult stores except much cheaper. All I need to do now is file down the inner edges and God knows how I'm going to cut those rods. I might need home depot to do it.
 
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truant;423960 said:
Hey guys just want to let you know that I got my package from Mcmaster today. I ordered it early on Monday and got it this Wednesday morning. The packaging on the shaft collars says Ruland on it, the same company that Supra mentioned on his BE thread. When I picked the shaft collars up I was surprised how heavy they felt especially the combined weight of the two is pretty hefty. They feel like real weights and the black oxide is smooth and not grainy like I was expecting. I'm also happy to say that the 5mm diameter rods will fit perfect between the the two collars to create that stretch, they couldn't have been a better size. It didn't come with an Allen key but I had a couple laying around that fit.

Thanks for this update truant! I had not checked back on this thread for a few days, so missed some of your earlier posts. I appreciate knowing how those shaft collars from McMaster look. I'm going to order mine today. I'm going to just make my set-up more simple than yours and see how it goes for now. Maybe I'll get more elaborate in the future if things go well. I wish you good luck in getting those rods cut!

Dan

I also ordered materials for the Captain's wench including a large alchemy cock ring on amazon. In place of the cable clamps and nylon webbing I just ordered a 100 pack of the Velcro straps which will take the place of those two items. The alchemy ring has an outer diameter of 60mm and so does the shaft collars. When I'm used to wearing the two collars I can stack the alchemy ring between the two shaft collars. I want to use the ring for after my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] girth sessions and maybe while doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words].

All in all I'm very pleased with the purchase. The weight and the heavy industrial type feel of the collars is what got me excited because they are like real ball weights you buy in the adult stores except much cheaper. All I need to do now is file down the inner edges and God knows how I'm going to cut those rods. I might need home depot to do it.
 
truant;423960 said:
Hey guys just want to let you know that I got my package from Mcmaster today. I ordered it early on Monday and got it this Wednesday morning. The packaging on the shaft collars says Ruland on it, the same company that Supra mentioned on his BE thread. When I picked the shaft collars up I was surprised how heavy they felt especially the combined weight of the two is pretty hefty. They feel like real weights and the black oxide is smooth and not grainy like I was expecting. I'm also happy to say that the 5mm diameter rods will fit perfect between the the two collars to create that stretch, they couldn't have been a better size. It didn't come with an Allen key but I had a couple laying around that fit.

I also ordered materials for the Captain's wench including a large alchemy cock ring on amazon. In place of the cable clamps and nylon webbing I just ordered a 100 pack of the Velcro straps which will take the place of those two items. The alchemy ring has an outer diameter of 60mm and so does the shaft collars. When I'm used to wearing the two collars I can stack the alchemy ring between the two shaft collars. I want to use the ring for after my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] girth sessions and maybe while doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words].

All in all I'm very pleased with the purchase. The weight and the heavy industrial type feel of the collars is what got me excited because they are like real ball weights you buy in the adult stores except much cheaper. All I need to do now is file down the inner edges and God knows how I'm going to cut those rods. I might need home depot to do it.

Opps......I put that last reply within your quotes, my bad! :-))

Thanks for this update truant! I had not checked back on this thread for a few days, so missed some of your earlier posts. I appreciate knowing how those shaft collars from McMaster look. I'm going to order mine today. I'm going to just make my set-up more simple than yours and see how it goes for now. Maybe I'll get more elaborate in the future if things go well. I wish you good luck in getting those rods cut!

Dan
 
No problem dan, thanks a bunch for mentioning the Mcmaster site because I would have went with amazon instead and I think the ones on Mcmaster are better. What size and material did you pick up? And I think I can use my table saw to cut the rods.
 
truant;424266 said:
No problem dan, thanks a bunch for mentioning the Mcmaster site because I would have went with amazon instead and I think the ones on Mcmaster are better. What size and material did you pick up? And I think I can use my table saw to cut the rods.

You're welcome truant. I went with the one-piece hinged shaft collar here: http://www.mcmaster.com/#shaft-collars/=bsex5d because I feel like it will be easier to get on. I have a very high, tight ball-sack and Its going to be a trick to get the thing on for a while until I stretch. I got the 1.5/8" inside diameter.

Dan
 
Hey truant, just wanted to post an update for you. I waited until today to get that shaft collar on. I'd had a hell of a time trying to get it on, its still cold here :-)) Anyway, I finally got it on today with the help of a bowl of very warm water! Its really comfy and I'm sure looking forward to wearing it all summer to get these boys stretched down about 4". Have you been wearing yours? If so, how's it going?

Dan
 
Hey, that's great dan thanks for the update, you have waited until the summer just like I have, just now have I got back into the collars lol. I only wore the 40mm collars a few times in January just to test them out. Now that I have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] I thought it might be a good idea to wear the shaft collars and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] at the same time to kill two birds with one stone. Today I used my grinder wheel to grind down the inner edges of the collars then smoothed them with steel wool. Then I cut some cloth strips from an old shirt, nice and wide so the cloth can cover the inner and outer steel. Last I put on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], the base of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] rested on the top part of the shaft collar and hung down to it's usual position w/o the collar getting in the way.

It's cool that I can wear both at the same time so I'm getting the best of both worlds. I noticed when I wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], especially when it's cooler, my balls get lost around the base and ride high. The shaft collar really helps my balls from retracting into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. I'm really doing it for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] but it's so nice I can do both at the same time. It makes me want to wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] more. I'm going to start with a minimum of 4-6 hours a day wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and ball weights, a long with my usual routine. Has any one ever tried wearing both before? Just tried it for a few minutes today without any discomfort do to the cloth wrap.
 
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Hi truant,

Sounds like its going well! I'm glad its working to do both at the same time, that is cool. Let us know what you notice from stretching out your sack? I'm interested to hear how that goes and what you notice.

Dan
 
I just ordered one of these online today - for those of you who have been using them for a while, how are they working? And do you think I'll be able to use it as a weight without filing down the edges? I don't have it yet, so not sure how sharp it's going to be. The pictures online don't look that bad, but I've never filed metal before, so I'm not sure how I'll go about that. Filing would also wreck the oxide finish, possibly leading to rust.

Anyways, an update from you experienced guys would be great!
 
Hi sky_pirate,

I gave up on the ball weights. My shaft collar was too difficult to get on. I know truant had success with his, so maybe he will chime in. I don't think you would need to smooth the edges, mine was pretty easy on the skin.

Dan

sky_pirate;482769 said:
I just ordered one of these online today - for those of you who have been using them for a while, how are they working? And do you think I'll be able to use it as a weight without filing down the edges? I don't have it yet, so not sure how sharp it's going to be. The pictures online don't look that bad, but I've never filed metal before, so I'm not sure how I'll go about that. Filing would also wreck the oxide finish, possibly leading to rust.

Anyways, an update from you experienced guys would be great!
 
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