Transdermal test experiment

quijjiboo · Dec 1, 2003

Well I guess im crazy enough to try the androgel experiment, I know enough about the effects of androgens to give this a shot while being comfortable it is safe.
I will be using something slightly different though, i will be using testosterone base in transdermal consisting of isopropyl alcohol, IPM, oleic acid, DMSO and other penetration enhancers. This transdermal has an estimated absorption rate of 30-40%, much better than androgels 10%. It is also more concentrated, so i have to be careful.
I will be using 50-75mg per day, divided in AM and PM for 30 days. Starting at 6" BP X 5"(mid). Ill be updating this thread every week. Hope all goes well!

quijjiboo · Dec 1, 2003

Oh ya, I i will also be Penis Enlargement'ing during this time, doing DLD's Girth Buster routine 6 days a week, no stretching for a little while until an injury heals...

ItsElectric · Dec 2, 2003

Awesome!! Are you gonna be cycling this at all? Also, will you be putting it on every day?

-ItsElectric

quijjiboo · Dec 2, 2003

ya i am dividing the dose into 3 daily applications, since it absorbs fast...
im gonna go for 30 days.. if i get good results, ill take a month off and go back on again

quijjiboo · Dec 8, 2003

Weekly update: 6.25" X 5"(mid)
I started stretching again this week, which may account for the slight length increase (though ive never broken 6-6.1)...

Ive been doing the girth work heavy, I was actually expecting a little shrinkage due to dousing it with isopropyl alcohol 3 times per day. i hope to see 1/4" after all is said and done...

ItsElectric · Dec 9, 2003

Awesome!!! When can we expect a girth measurment? Also, is there a place that I would be able to buy what you're using, or would I have to make it?

-ItsElectric

quijjiboo · Dec 9, 2003

Originally posted by ItsElectric
Awesome!!! When can we expect a girth measurment? Also, is there a place that I would be able to buy what you're using, or would I have to make it?

-ItsElectric

im not sure what you mean, i measured at 5" after the first week like i said above, you mean when do i expect a gain? most people who have tried it successfully say their gains started after the 2nd week...
for the transdermal, it might be a little tricky

, you should be able to find the info you need here (everything i know came from that board, its awesome):
www.anabolicminds.com

ItsElectric · Dec 9, 2003

Originally posted by quijjiboo
im not sure what you mean, i measured at 5" after the first week like i said above, you mean when do i expect a gain? most people who have tried it successfully say their gains started after the 2nd week...
for the transdermal, it might be a little tricky , you should be able to find the info you need here (everything i know came from that board, its awesome):
www.anabolicminds.com

Oh I'm sorry, I'm an idiot.

I must've been too lazy to look at your first post too. Haha, I'll check it out!

-ItsElectric

8 isn't enough · Dec 9, 2003

Originally posted by quijjiboo
im not sure what you mean, i measured at 5" after the first week like i said above, you mean when do i expect a gain? most people who have tried it successfully say their gains started after the 2nd week...
for the transdermal, it might be a little tricky , you should be able to find the info you need here (everything i know came from that board, its awesome):
www.anabolicminds.com

It takes a couple of weeks for the transdermal to actually make it through the tunica. Unless, you want to use electrodes on your dick.

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quijjiboo · Dec 16, 2003

Weekly update: 6.5" X 5"(mid)

Im having a hard time believing this is a true .5" increase, there was probably some measuring error before but Ill take it LOL. Im starting to get tired of applying this shit 3 times per day hehe.

rain · Dec 16, 2003

quijjiboo,

Good going with the gains...

I used testorixn for a month last year, was very intense... *g* Really enjoyed it, however was not able to afford to keep buying the stuff.

Then a year later, health problems caught up with me...

Since I am now taking beta-blockers.... It's not for high blood pressure, but to keep the rhytHydromax of my heart proper... My blood pressure was 128 / 84 before I began taking the beta-blockers.

Damn, I'm missing out on all the fun... No more [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Penis Enlargement pills[/words], no more testorixn... Agh... Part of me wants to stop taking my meds and join on your experiment... Not going to happen... Common sense wins this round...

I pumped a couple times while using testorixn... WOW is all I can say...

Again, keep us posted...

Rain...

8 isn't enough · Dec 17, 2003

What are you using as the carrier and is it pure Test or a bonded one? Give details!

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ItsElectric · Dec 17, 2003

Very interesting......

-ItsElectric

quijjiboo · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by 8 isn't enough
What are you using as the carrier and is it pure Test or a bonded one? Give details!

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I did give details man! The carrier i used is in the first post (by carrier you mean just the transdermal solution right?), about 20mg/ml, pure test no ester... im not sure what you mean by bonded

Super · Dec 17, 2003

Man I triedhat whole transdermal thing before I got my products from http://www.nexostherapeuticals.com/ I did not notice any big results. Mabey I will have to try your program though. Looks interesting. Were are you putting on the andro ge, directly on the penis, scrotum, glands? Are you even using andro gel. Were are you getting this other stuff your talking aobut though?

quijjiboo · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by Supra
Man I triedhat whole transdermal thing before I got my products from http://www.nexostherapeuticals.com/ I did not notice any big results. Mabey I will have to try your program though. Looks interesting. Were are you putting on the andro ge, directly on the penis, scrotum, glands? Are you even using andro gel. Were are you getting this other stuff your talking aobut though?

its way better than androgel, but there's no commercial version of it, you would have to make it yourself, go to this site:
www.anabolicminds.com for info on where to find the ingredients, (youll have to find the test yourself)

Super · Dec 17, 2003

OK cool so you have to make it. Wait you said it casued shrinkage though. What do you mean? Do you know any for sure gains?

ItsElectric · Dec 17, 2003

So if I wanted to try this, but am too lazy to make it myself which product do you think would be best for me to use?

-ItsElectric

quijjiboo · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by Supra
OK cool so you have to make it. Wait you said it casued shrinkage though. What do you mean? Do you know any for sure gains?

I was expecting shrinkage due to the alcohol. The shaft feels tight like its dry and I have noticed that the CS is alot smaller, doesnt stick out as much as before I started this stuff.. Hopefully goes back to normal heh
I will be able to give a definite answer about gains Id say one week after im done, because then the hydration level should be back to normal
but im still checking weekly and giving updates for shits and giggles...

quijjiboo · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by ItsElectric
So if I wanted to try this, but am too lazy to make it myself which product do you think would be best for me to use?

-ItsElectric

Androgel, or a similar transdermal testosterone product

I doubt any prohormone would work, but if you have to 4AD would be the one, dont bother with anything else

Super · Dec 17, 2003

What about this stuff, I heard this was good for this same type of thing.

http://www.1fast400.com/?manufacturers_id=86&products_id=817

quijjiboo · Dec 17, 2003

Yes thats a decent product and 1fast is a reliable guy

ItsElectric · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by Supra
Were are you putting on the andro ge, directly on the penis, scrotum, glands?

What he said. Do I need to protect my balls as well?

-ItsElectric

quijjiboo · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by ItsElectric
What he said. Do I need to protect my balls as well?

-ItsElectric

Just on the penis, it will sting like hell on the balls, you should try to prevent them from touching with something, but sometimes i get lazy once its dry and forget about it

Super · Dec 17, 2003

Is it as good as yours you think?

quijjiboo · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by Supra
Is it as good as yours you think?

no i dont think so. there have been some studies involving transdermal testosterone for enlargement and treating ED, but nothing for 4AD. And theoretically the testosterone makes alot more sense (DHT even more so, but Im not going there)

Super · Dec 18, 2003

Can you give us the exact ingrediants and directions to make this stuff?

quijjiboo · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by Supra
Can you give us the exact ingrediants and directions to make this stuff?

Do some homework lol

IPP 40%
IPM 20%
OA 10%
PG 10%
OS 5%
D-lim 5%
DMSO 10%

powder sources: http://forum.anabolicminds.com/showthread.php?t=28

transdermal sources: http://forum.anabolicminds.com/showthread.php?t=29

ItsElectric · Dec 22, 2003

OK, I'm buying that crap.

I'll take before measurments and take it for about 3 weeks applying it 2 times a day. Then I'll take a week or two off and will keep you posted on results. I'll be using http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=817&osCsid=491eb54efb076f3153b4d20132d4c7ed with 2 sprays in the morning and 3 sprays at night. This sound ok?

-ItsElectric

Super · Dec 23, 2003

Tell me how that stuff works!

quijjiboo · Dec 24, 2003

Originally posted by ItsElectric
OK, I'm buying that crap. I'll take before measurments and take it for about 3 weeks applying it 2 times a day. Then I'll take a week or two off and will keep you posted on results. I'll be using http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=817&osCsid=491eb54efb076f3153b4d20132d4c7ed with 2 sprays in the morning and 3 sprays at night. This sound ok?

-ItsElectric

sounds good to me

btw, Weekly Update (a bit late): 6 5/8 BP X 5(mid)
It looks like ive gained girth, but apparently not according to the tape. Getting to 6 3/4 BPL by the end of the cycle would rock.
hitting the blasters and other stretches hard 3X per day.

ItsElectric · Dec 27, 2003

*still waiting for his to arrive*

-ItsElectric

ItsElectric · Dec 29, 2003

Got my stuff today, I'll update the progress in my progress thread! Booyah!

-ItsElectric

Super · Dec 29, 2003

Hows this test going?

ItsElectric · Dec 29, 2003

Originally posted by Supra
Hows this test going?

So far, so good. In the original thread over at Thunders', Jones says to spray 50mg on it, 2 times a day. Tonight I hopped out of the shower, dried off and then sprayed one and a half sprays on and massaged it in. No problems so far. I did take a measurment right before, but I'm just telling you now that I will not be convinced of this stuff unless I see a 1/4" increase in length or girth by the end of 4 weeks.

-ItsElectric

quijjiboo · Dec 30, 2003

Originally posted by ItsElectric
So far, so good. In the original thread over at Thunders', Jones says to spray 50mg on it, 2 times a day. Tonight I hopped out of the shower, dried off and then sprayed one and a half sprays on and massaged it in. No problems so far. I did take a measurment right before, but I'm just telling you now that I will not be convinced of this stuff unless I see a 1/4" increase in length or girth by the end of 4 weeks.

-ItsElectric

well the good thing is that you have the advantage of doing this while young if im not mistaken. It will have better results in younger people.
Note to readers: DONT TAKE THIS AS A RECOMMENDATION hehe

ItsElectric · Dec 30, 2003

Originally posted by quijjiboo
well the good thing is that you have the advantage of doing this while young if im not mistaken. It will have better results in younger people.
Note to readers: DONT TAKE THIS AS A RECOMMENDATION hehe

Haha yes, I'm 18 and turn 19 in April. Hopefully we'll get some good results back with this though!

..but with my "New Year's Resolution" of being consistant with Penis Enlargement, I'm gonna have to think of something.

-ItsElectric

Gardenier90 · Jan 4, 2004

Happy Early B-day!!! Just in case I forget.

ItsElectric · Jan 5, 2004

Originally posted by Gardenier90
Happy Early B-day!!! Just in case I forget.

Haha, thank you very much!

-ItsElectric

quijjiboo · Jan 10, 2004

final update: 1 week after stopping the applications im at 6.75 BP X5 (mid)
I was pretty much only working length during the time, and it shows. it wasnt a true .75 gain im guessing .25 of that was measuring error, but ill definitely be starting a new cycle in a months time. if i see another .5 after the next cycle, then ill be convinced its from the transdermal

Gardenier90 · Jan 10, 2004

IPP 40%
IPM 20%
OA 10%
PG 10%
OS 5%
D-lim 5%
DMSO 10%

In how big of a batch do you make this?

ItsElectric · Jan 10, 2004

Originally posted by quijjiboo
final update: 1 week after stopping the applications im at 6.75 BP X5 (mid)
I was pretty much only working length during the time, and it shows. it wasnt a true .75 gain im guessing .25 of that was measuring error, but ill definitely be starting a new cycle in a months time. if i see another .5 after the next cycle, then ill be convinced its from the transdermal

How much did you ejaculate in this time? Just curious if this would actually effect any gains?

-ItsElectric

Super · Jan 11, 2004

Hey ItsElectric, any changes?

ItsElectric · Jan 11, 2004

Originally posted by Supra
Hey ItsElectric, any changes?

Actually I measured last night and I may be up to 7.8"

I'll measure again later just to make sure though.

-ItsElectric

Super · Jan 11, 2004

Great news!

Gardenier90 · Jan 11, 2004

Indeed.

quijjiboo · Feb 5, 2004

Havent been online for a while...

Gardenier90 -> Doesn't really matter how big of a batch, I guess a litre or so would be reasonable

ItsElectric -> How many times? Alot, who knows hehehe. Makes absolutely no difference IMO

WideAwake · Feb 5, 2004

Why didn't you use a DHT precursor such as 3alpha or 5aa?

Were you afraid of possibly effecting your prostrate (a very valid concern IMO, considering that much of the tissue in the penis leads directly to it...)

Still...I've been thinking of playing around with the one gel designed for local pentration to specific tissue (gel#3 or whatever they are calling it now) and mixing in a combo of 3alpha and 5aa, I think these would potentially be much more effective.

quijjiboo · Feb 8, 2004

Originally posted by WideAwake
Why didn't you use a DHT precursor such as 3alpha or 5aa?

Were you afraid of possibly effecting your prostrate (a very valid concern IMO, considering that much of the tissue in the penis leads directly to it...)

a) safety, there were several studies done with this kind of treatment and there weren't any reported side effects
b) some people noticed results using testosterone, I havent heard of anybody using 3-alpha or 5aa

quijjiboo · Feb 13, 2004

I started my second month long cycle today. This one will be a bit lower dose, only applying 2/day.

Right now I stand at 7 BP X 5(mid). I hope to get to 17 X 11 by the end of the month.

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