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mahoney1234

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Hey gentlemen, i wasn't sure where to post this so I figured whatever and do it here.


So come May and it'll be 6 years of PE for me and 6 years of being on this great, motivating forum. However as of recent I've been thinking a bit too much maybe, but I'm beginning to understand truly who I am, beyond material and the construct we all live in, the construct we all are forced to believe in and are supposed to follow. Regardless of race, culture, region it doesn't matter, a lot of who we as men throughout our lives for some strange reason revolves greatly around our penises. What's even more strange is that we do what we do for women. I guess this could work for both gays and straights but as straight men I know for sure if you have had sex with at least 3 women you'll know they don't know shit about sizes. A man with a 5" could please a women just as well as a 7" can(depending on the user obv lol) yet we are stuck is the predetermined mindsets that we need something we don't have or are blessed with from genetics. There is a social source of bullshit that rules our lives and makes men struggle with insecurities and spend endless time on penis exercises that in the long run we may not actually need. In terms of penis size and penis usability I think we can almost agree that women are retarded in that sense. So I question why? Why do I wear my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] everyday? Why do I jelq everyday? If I was 9x6 there's a woman out there who'll think I'm small cause she's tight about some bs. Yet if she's happy a 4.5" could be her dream come true. I don't know about most of you guys on here, but I am 5'7, fairly chunky and white and I mainly stick with black females and most of them tell me their previous men were black with arizona can size dicks, which I am nowhere near lol yet whenever I have sex they seem to be furthest from miserable. So I am not trying to deter anyone from pe'ing cause I myself will continue, yet I just question why do we feel the need to pe in a sense of growing. i really can't see why one would want a bigger dick for themselves. Somewhere along the lines it's for someone else's jaw to drop. If not, I don't see what else is the point, do you want to drop your own jaw by the sight of your dick? Seems a bit ridiculous to me, so I am questioning, why are we subconciously put into this situation that we need to be packin when our birth given sizes will suffice just well. It's like made to believe that if you aren't big you can't please a partner or you're less of a man or some shit.

I'm tired of seeing, reading and hearing this obsession completely filled with fallacies and nonsense that don't mean anything.
If you are a man and you PE for a bigger dick and not for a healthier penis, that's border line suspect, if it isn't for a partner and just yourself.
And if you think you need more to satisfy your partner, I'm pretty certain it isn't your size.
 
You only fuck dark skinned ones? Why? I would say that's suspect too bra just look at young thug, and tell me he doesn't look tranny. Or I could say that all dudes that have very very skinny, tiny wives are actually into little kids. Or that just because you like shaved pussy you're into prepubescent pussy because it looks similar. About PE we could get into the psychology if it but I think its just easier to say "I don't accept myself, let me change it" why look for all the problems when you got the solution to them bra. About the dark skinned chicks don't ask me if I'm prejudice or if its a trollish comment because if I only like blasians or any mix before full African its just preference bra. That's like Italian parents telling their daughter to bring home a nice Italian boy its just their preference, and its very respectable
 
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Amongst other things, I actually do enjoy watching my dick spread apart good pussy, even if it isn't considered huge yet... but everyone has their own reasons, whether external influence or internal preference.

Ask yourself this: Why will *you* continue PE?
 
i would also add that some people here are also for getting a longer dick out of sheer joy or desire
 
I used to think it was just because I wanted to please any woman. But now, it's just to please my ego. Pre-determined male hormonal genetics already built into us. Gotta be bigger, gotta be better. I have had no bad complaints other than smacking the cervix which they liked. I wasn't happy all my life with my penis, I wanted to be bigger because I knew I was smaller than others, even though I was frickin average. I will stop once I am happy, which will be around 7.5bpel and 5.75-6 girth. Not to big but a great overall size. I've continued to grow myself as a person and physically as well. Why not do the same to my penis. I have made it healthy beyond belief and I know I won't have a prostate problem which runs in my family. I make everything to what I want, not what it should be or what others believe it to be. Essentially, I'm greedy but know what I want and will work hard for it.
 
I think for me, its a desire and power thing. Just like when I work on my body. I like catching women looking at me and excited by what they see. In the penis department, it is the same. I like the idea that they want me, but I get to choose whether they can have me. A bigger dick just sweetens the pot.
 
MoreThanLuck;680804 said:
I think for me, its a desire and power thing. Just like when I work on my body. I like catching women looking at me and excited by what they see. In the penis department, it is the same. I like the idea that they want me, but I get to choose whether they can have me. A bigger dick just sweetens the pot.
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Don't go stirring the pot with your dick now, ya hear.
 
I feel you, but what I'm aware of what my preferences are it was to just make an example maybe I worded it wrong. But I mean more so like if there wasn't this whole idea of being huge that is really setup, it's like something that gets pounded subconciously into a man during puberty if not before. And women play a huge role in keeping it alive. I also know why I PE and I definitely accept myself and have accepted myself prior to my gains
 
mahoney1234;680843 said:
I feel you, but what I'm aware of what my preferences are it was to just make an example maybe I worded it wrong. But I mean more so like if there wasn't this whole idea of being huge that is really setup, it's like something that gets pounded subconciously into a man during puberty if not before. And women play a huge role in keeping it alive. I also know why I PE and I definitely accept myself and have accepted myself prior to my gains
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Your wording is fine. You're right in the fact society plays a huge role in it as well. Society thinks 9" is average and that everyone has it. We know the truth and anyone who says they are, can't prove it. Only the brotherhood can. Yes, there are some men who are that size, but others just put the ruler under their dick. Tv shows, commercials, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], etc. They all say we're supposed to be big. Just like if you have big feet or nose, you know.
 
runningignus;680853 said:
Your wording is fine. You're right in the fact society plays a huge role in it as well. Society thinks 9" is average and that everyone has it. We know the truth and anyone who says they are, can't prove it. Only the brotherhood can. Yes, there are some men who are that size, but others just put the ruler under their dick. Tv shows, commercials, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], etc. They all say we're supposed to be big. Just like if you have big feet or nose, you know.
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yeah Tv shows, infomercials, publicity,adult entertainment,they all have an influence,but can be a negative one sometimes....
 
shortdick;680854 said:
yeah Tv shows, infomercials, publicity,adult entertainment,they all have an influence,but can be a negative one sometimes....
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Definitely negative. I used to think those guys were huge but there at my size now, not even that big than what I was. It's all money in the pocket of companies playing on people's insecurities.
 
shortdick;680854 said:
yeah Tv shows, infomercials, publicity,adult entertainment,they all have an influence,but can be a negative one sometimes....
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Real women don't actually desire sex like men do for the reasons we do. Your average woman wants sex to fulfill her biological imperative to make babies. Once the babies come, the man is trapped and it's sweat pants, fat baby belly, and Facebook time! #truth
 
pogzee;680730 said:
i would also add that some people here are also for getting a longer dick out of sheer joy or desire
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yeah who wouldnt want to get to ten inchesx6 waking up every morning n witnessing a huge phyton resting between your legs..
 
runningignus;680796 said:
I used to think it was just because I wanted to please any woman. But now, it's just to please my ego. Pre-determined male hormonal genetics already built into us. Gotta be bigger, gotta be better. I have had no bad complaints other than smacking the cervix which they liked. I wasn't happy all my life with my penis, I wanted to be bigger because I knew I was smaller than others, even though I was frickin average. I will stop once I am happy, which will be around 7.5bpel and 5.75-6 girth. Not to big but a great overall size. I've continued to grow myself as a person and physically as well. Why not do the same to my penis. I have made it healthy beyond belief and I know I won't have a prostate problem which runs in my family. I make everything to what I want, not what it should be or what others believe it to be. Essentially, I'm greedy but know what I want and will work hard for it.
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i like your words i think there is this pre determined male hormaonal genetics,we want to be bigger,better.But yeah we have to work to gain those inches.:)
 
shortdick;680868 said:
i like your words i think there is this pre determined male hormaonal genetics,we want to be bigger,better.But yeah we have to work to gain those inches.:)
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Yeah. C'mon, it's not like it's free lol. We still work hard for these measly few inches😒 lol.
 
stillwantmore2;680864 said:
Real women don't actually desire sex like men do for the reasons we do. Your average woman wants sex to fulfill her biological imperative to make babies. Once the babies come, the man is trapped and it's sweat pants, fat baby belly, and Facebook time! #truth
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lol man this made me laugh so hard (pretty much cuz its truth). Altho women can be extremely sexy in sweat pants :)
 
We all come to PE for different reasons. There's never a need to feel bad, or guilty about wanting to pursue it. It SHOULD BE a "selfish" pursuit in my opinion. If you don't do it for yourself, there's really no motivation. Doing it for someone else will likely just result in disappointment.
 
stillwantmore2;680921 said:
We all come to PE for different reasons. There's never a need to feel bad, or guilty about wanting to pursue it. It SHOULD BE a "selfish" pursuit in my opinion. If you don't do it for yourself, there's really no motivation. Doing it for someone else will likely just result in disappointment.
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I believe everything we do is selfish one way or the other. Like donating to charity makes you feel good, you do it for the selfish reason cuz it will make you feel certain way.
Same as PE when people write they do it for women...no, you do selfishly wanting them to feel certain way or say certain things.
 
Luke 6:41 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

Being selfish is usually bad, but sometimes you need to be selfish in the sense that you gotta sort your own issues out before you can 'care' about animals or what have you. Also I endorse stilly's post about biological clock that makes women get joy out of bearing kids. I want to own family one day, but I know that its not my place to be the 'nurturing' parent because I'm the baws one. Either way the universe is vast, and cuddling a mini-me/ kitten/ tree all day is pointless
 
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BigBeardBig;680922 said:
I believe everything we do is selfish one way or the other. Like donating to charity makes you feel good, you do it for the selfish reason cuz it will make you feel certain way.
Same as PE when people write they do it for women...no, you do selfishly wanting them to feel certain way or say certain things.
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what about both we do it for ourselves we do it for the ladies..:);)
 
Yeah but thats the xact same thing, by "doing it for the ladies" you are actually only doing it for urself
There is no such thing as selflessly growing dick for ladies
 
good thread, instead of saying what are the right reasons for doing PE I would say here are the two WRONG reasons for doing PE :

1. to be bigger than other people. There is always someone bigger. If you become obsessed with PE there is always someone bigger, and even if you end up one of the bigger guys its best to enjoy the ride dont worry about other people.
2. to get an "ideal" mate. the only kind of women, or men if you're into that, that will chose you because of your cock size are bad. Shallow people who are like that are going to be bad for you and possibly a bad relationship.

i dont consider myself an expert, but always develop other aspects of your life. Dont put all your eggs in one basket and focus completly on PE. Even if you are a adult entertainment star and your paycheck revolves around your cock and your ability to perform I would still try to focus and develop multiple aspects of your life.
 
acromegaly;680967 said:
good thread, instead of saying what are the right reasons for doing PE I would say here are the two WRONG reasons for doing PE :

1. to be bigger than other people. There is always someone bigger. If you become obsessed with PE there is always someone bigger, and even if you end up one of the bigger guys its best to enjoy the ride dont worry about other people.
2. to get an "ideal" mate. the only kind of women, or men if you're into that, that will chose you because of your cock size are bad. Shallow people who are like that are going to be bad for you and possibly a bad relationship.

i dont consider myself an expert, but always develop other aspects of your life. Dont put all your eggs in one basket and focus completly on PE. Even if you are a adult entertainment star and your paycheck revolves around your cock and your ability to perform I would still try to focus and develop multiple aspects of your life.
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I think that shallowness is f'ing implanted into some girls minds, the friends I have that are girls seem almost delusional man, it's kind of hilarious how shallow I guess they think they have to be.
 
Penis Enlargement and unreal expectations will only slow the process and cause discouragement. Wanting to be the bigger man in the world, although a very cool thing to imagine, the reality of it is you will have a very small chance of this happening. Through years of crazy intense work maybe, but the average man will not have that kind of time to dedicate. becoming larger to get a new mate is also a very irrational way to go about PE. This needs to be done for you and you alone. The appreciation from others will fuel your motivation but in the end it is you who have to train and dedicate so much time to get to where you want to be...this is a mental game!
 
doublelongdaddy;680992 said:
Penis Enlargement and unreal expectations will only slow the process and cause discouragement. Wanting to be the bigger man in the world, although a very cool thing to imagine, the reality of it is you will have a very small chance of this happening. Through years of crazy intense work maybe, but the average man will not have that kind of time to dedicate. becoming larger to get a new mate is also a very irrational way to go about PE. This needs to be done for you and you alone. The appreciation from others will fuel your motivation but in the end it is you who have to train and dedicate so much time to get to where you want to be...this is a mental game!
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Wise words DLD. Do you personally still have the mental drive to be bigger or is your ultimate goal now only mantain the monster you have ?
 
BigBeardBig;681091 said:
Wise words DLD. Do you personally still have the mental drive to be bigger or is your ultimate goal now only mantain the monster you have ?
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10+x6 i think he is more into manteinance but who knows mayeb he wants to get bigger than the infamous Mandingo lol
 
BigBeardBig;680939 said:
Yeah but thats the xact same thing, by "doing it for the ladies" you are actually only doing it for urself
There is no such thing as selflessly growing dick for ladies
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maybe yeah but is more into sharing the gains..
 
mahoney1234;680971 said:
I think that shallowness is f'ing implanted into some girls minds, the friends I have that are girls seem almost delusional man, it's kind of hilarious how shallow I guess they think they have to be.
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i agree shallowness is a terrible thing,wonder why they act that way, do they think that they are better than everybody else...:P?:(
 
doublelongdaddy;680992 said:
Penis Enlargement and unreal expectations will only slow the process and cause discouragement. Wanting to be the bigger man in the world, although a very cool thing to imagine, the reality of it is you will have a very small chance of this happening. Through years of crazy intense work maybe, but the average man will not have that kind of time to dedicate. becoming larger to get a new mate is also a very irrational way to go about PE. This needs to be done for you and you alone. The appreciation from others will fuel your motivation but in the end it is you who have to train and dedicate so much time to get to where you want to be...this is a mental game!
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Personally I dont want to become the largest man in the world. Modest gains are what I´m going for. My starting size is 7.5x5.3 so gaining an inch in length and .7 inch in girth would be perfect. I´m hoping I can achieve this with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and I don thave to do "years of crazy intense work". Because I´ll be honest.. That doesnt sound like anything I can ever do. My problem with PE and what makes me stop every time is starting off too hard.
 
kak03;681118 said:
Personally I dont want to become the largest man in the world. Modest gains are what I´m going for. My starting size is 7.5x5.3 so gaining an inch in length and .7 inch in girth would be perfect. I´m hoping I can achieve this with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and I don thave to do "years of crazy intense work". Because I´ll be honest.. That doesnt sound like anything I can ever do. My problem with PE and what makes me stop every time is starting off too hard.
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1 inch in length and .7 inch in girth is perfectly doable with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words], all you need is hands, you dont even ever have to buy any PE device
 
BigBeardBig;681144 said:
1 inch in length and .7 inch in girth is perfectly doable with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words], all you need is hands, you dont even ever have to buy any PE device
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The sad thing is I already got PE equipment that I havent used. I bought it with my great plans of getting super serious and then got too lazy and havent used it. Got an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] and a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] that I havent used more than once. I should probably try to sell the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] at least. If anyone is interested in a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] that has been used once or twice for a discounted price just tell me :P
 
BigBeardBig;681091 said:
Wise words DLD. Do you personally still have the mental drive to be bigger or is your ultimate goal now only mantain the monster you have ?
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My goals since I reached my major goal has been on spending time inventing new exercise and tool and product development. So even though I am not actively looking for gains they still happen when I am testing a new method. My goal in every case is safety & effectiveness before I release to the public. At this point I am more active than I have been for a while but not trying to gain. It's all about theory and physics at this point.
 
doublelongdaddy;681223 said:
My goals since I reached my major goal has been on spending time inventing new exercise and tool and product development. So even though I am not actively looking for gains they still happen when I am testing a new method. My goal in every case is safety & effectiveness before I release to the public. At this point I am more active than I have been for a while but not trying to gain. It's all about theory and physics at this point.
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Do you now test the controlled priapism ?
 
doublelongdaddy;681223 said:
My goals since I reached my major goal has been on spending time inventing new exercise and tool and product development. So even though I am not actively looking for gains they still happen when I am testing a new method. My goal in every case is safety & effectiveness before I release to the public. At this point I am more active than I have been for a while but not trying to gain. It's all about theory and physics at this point.
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i think we all have to get to our desired size someday,n PE will have a different approach..Hope someday we all can develop at least one or two exercises that will help other bros to get gains in a simpler way...
 
shortdick;681266 said:
i think we all have to get to our desired size someday,n PE will have a different approach..Hope someday we all can develop at least one or two exercises that will help other bros to get gains in a simpler way...
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I think at this point we've invented so many exercises that there is something for everyone out there that'll work fantastically
 
mahoney1234;681335 said:
I think at this point we've invented so many exercises that there is something for everyone out there that'll work fantastically
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I know on my own I have come up with more than 200 exercises and routines over the last 14 years. The Brotherhood is famous for this and the envy of the rest of the PE world. When I got involved with PE there was only a handful of exercises that were mediocre at best. I heard how men who were dedicated could gain a half inch in 2 years????!!!! WTF is that? I was not willing to wait and I studied physics for many years and knew I could reframe the entire PE culture with more powerful, progressive exercise and unity. Since that time many Brothers have come to the table with many exercises, modifications and tools. We are the envy of the PE world because we reinvented it! Today most PE sites steal our exercises and rename them, sad really as we should get credit.

When I made my first 2" gain in length in my first 6 months NO ONE believed me, no one thought it was possible, but I proved it was possible and got this authenticated by many media outlets. When people started to take my work seriously there was no more eating 2 years for gains. With what we have created, especially [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words], we have redefined PE forever.
 
doublelongdaddy;681382 said:
I know on my own I have come up with more than 200 exercises and routines over the last 14 years. The Brotherhood is famous for this and the envy of the rest of the PE world. When I got involved with PE there was only a handful of exercises that were mediocre at best. I heard how men who were dedicated could gain a half inch in 2 years????!!!! WTF is that? I was not willing to wait and I studied physics for many years and knew I could reframe the entire PE culture with more powerful, progressive exercise and unity. Since that time many Brothers have come to the table with many exercises, modifications and tools. We are the envy of the PE world because we reinvented it! Today most PE sites steal our exercises and rename them, sad really as we should get credit.

When I made my first 2" gain in length in my first 6 months NO ONE believed me, no one thought it was possible, but I proved it was possible and got this authenticated by many media outlets. When people started to take my work seriously there was no more eating 2 years for gains. With what we have created, especially [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words], we have redefined PE forever.
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Haha half an inch in 2 years? Mediocre is being nice.

For your contributions I think I can speak for a lot us in saying we're completely grateful, you are omnipotent in this realm and you deserve way more credit.

I check other pe sites and they definitely do take way too many exercises and give shit advice, and a lot of them seem to be dickheads. No love other there lol

BTW [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] is the greater than sliced bread
 
runningignus;680796 said:
I used to think it was just because I wanted to please any woman. But now, it's just to please my ego. Pre-determined male hormonal genetics already built into us. Gotta be bigger, gotta be better. I have had no bad complaints other than smacking the cervix which they liked. I wasn't happy all my life with my penis, I wanted to be bigger because I knew I was smaller than others, even though I was frickin average. I will stop once I am happy, which will be around 7.5bpel and 5.75-6 girth. Not to big but a great overall size. I've continued to grow myself as a person and physically as well. Why not do the same to my penis. I have made it healthy beyond belief and I know I won't have a prostate problem which runs in my family. I make everything to what I want, not what it should be or what others believe it to be. Essentially, I'm greedy but know what I want and will work hard for it.
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You've been away for far too long bro. Can't wait to see you around
 
huge-girth;758472 said:
You've been away for far too long bro. Can't wait to see you around
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Me too, I hope to see hundreds return to reap all of the new methods of gaining!
 
I think ego plays a big part in why I do a lot of things, but especially PE...it also helps that it makes my partners climax easier (so there's that)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;758560 said:
I think ego plays a big part in why I do a lot of things, but especially PE...it also helps that it makes my partners climax easier (so there's that)
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I just wonder why guys who were making great gains just get up and leave. I mean they are making great gains and their goals are still not met and they fade away. I feel so bad when I see how much time has gone by and how much progress they could have made if they only stuck around. The good thing is when we go on a bumping mission of old threads we start to see some of these Brothers return.
 
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