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First off I'm sorry because I doubted you. I'm a newbie, so when I read the accusations on the other forum, It kinda scared me. I totally understand now. Keep your chin up!
 
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This was posted by West LA. My respose was deleted below even though it was fair and balanced, here it is for you all. Mowinman posted it for me over there and was repremaded.

http://www.Thund3rs Pl@ce.com/forum/showthread.php?p=204948#post204948

And go here for all the lies about me

http://www.Thund3rs Pl@ce.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26308

Thunder and the moderators want a safe and secure environment for our members. We monitor new members and look carefully at those who post in a troll-like manner. These troublemakers are banned after only a few posts when their motives become clear. Often these agitators attempt to register again and again with different names or by using different Internet Providers. They are usually caught rather quickly.

We now have one such instigator who, because of his position at other Penis Enlargement forums, has obtained passwords for other user accounts in his attempt to break in here. It is unclear if the actual account owners are giving him their passwords or if he's obtaining them by other means. Regardless, he has been caught here at Thund3rs Pl@ce reading forums or actually posting using another member's account and this has prompted us to issue this warning.

Members at Penis Enlargement Forums, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words], and other Penis Enlargement discussion groups will recognize his latest moniker: Supra. Regardless of how much he is revered in the other forums, his actions here have been less than honorable. His most recent effort involved usurping the account of our member Yves. While he didn't post as Yves, Supra was caught reading forums in the Member's Only areas using this member's account. Earlier this month he actually posted as our member playa7 causing playa7's membership to be terminated.

The purpose of this post is to warn our members who may also be members at forums where Supra is a moderator. If you use the same or similar passwords at different Penis Enlargement forums you may be opening your account to a takeover by this individual. It is strongly suggested that your Thund3rs Pl@ce password be changed to prevent this from happening.
 
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Why do you have so much against me? I never did anything to you guys until, until you ban me because I did not spell right the first time. And after that you never gave me a second chance. I remember that one post in particular that I tried to explain about Surgery that I want to have done and was trying to see what you guys though and you ban me for that as well. I don’t even know why I was really ban anymore. I have tried so hard to support as many members here that are at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] as well and everywhere else with no problems, why do you try to make me seem like the bad guy, when I am not? Yea sure I sent emails to Thunder and Hobby because I was really pissed off and furious at what you guys did to me and some other people, but you know what; Anyone would do that if they were hurt.

Just look at my support for Bib and the bib hanger at all the forums, I really believe in them, and I have a good friendship with Bib to. I support all the users questions, and tell people how it is such a great product for them to use and is the best hanger out there, cause it really is. I really like Thunders and what it has to offer with the entire cool forum, especially the hanger’s forum. This place helps many people who is a great thing and I would love to participate with it.

Saying that I am a troll spammer is so untrue. How am I a troll spammer?, No one else at any other forums seems to think so, all I ever did is help people. What have I spammed at Thunders, I have looked at all of my posts here, and not one was troll spamming, at all. These are lies that are being made up about me and I don’t know why. What did I spam, what did I advertise? You act like you have to have all of this security to defend your members from the Evil Supra and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], why are we evil, all this is, is penis enlargement? Not some greedy corporation trying to take over. I never tried to sell anything, promote another site, push a pill or anything. I never posted anything derogatory to anyone, all of what you accuse me of being a troll spammer; I did not do.

When I posted as Playa 7. You can see what I posted. That thread that was started up with “Should I join DLD forum” was so low and hateful, why did that be allowed? I don’t know why, DLD has never trashed Thunders once at all on the forum. He is always telling me to let it go and don’t get pissed about it. I was tired of this fighting between the forums, and said on that post, why fight it gets us no were? Look at my post. And when I got on as Yves I did not steal his password. Yes I am a mod at all the other forums, but I cannot access people’s passwords. Anyone that is a mod knows that you cannot not access users passwords you have to be a admin, and even then I don’t think you can. So I don’t know why you would say that I could when you know I cannot. If you are allowed to here then that is something that I do not know. Yea and it seemed to be ok if my name was posted in the open forum without someone editing it out, and that really pissed me off, I emailed Thunder and Hobby and got no reply, so I thought I would have some fun and fly the American Flag that Thunder used. Then I took it down

There just does not need to be this hatred towards [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. People might disagree with what DLD did and so forth. He has committed his life to you guys and helping everyone with Penis Enlargement. It boggles my mind what he does. He has OCD really bad and cannot have a normal life. So why bash him for that, instead support him. So what if he has a pay site. It’s a great site, with great videos of how to do every exercise there is. And you get 1 on 1 with him as well, who would not want that? I mean $50. I blow $50 on a bunch of crap in a day that lasts for a couple hours; the site is a life time membership. Besides you don’t even have to buy it if you don’t want to. He gives out all the information for free on the free forum. I mean what the difference between that and buying a pump a hanger a stretcher or anything else? There is no difference. If you don’t want to buy it then don’t. So please don’t say he is ripping people off, he is not, its totally up to each individual if they want to or not.

This is a Penis Enlargement community; we should be a tight group of men that are striving to better ourselves for one reason or another in our life. Why must there be fighting and bickering over who came up with this and that idea. It’s pointless. None of us are ever going to be famous for this, so who cares.

I have tried to give ideas and motivation for guys that have inspired countless men and myself to get to our goals and never give up. I have tried to bring so many things to the table for Penis Enlargement’ers , and I have done it so kindly out of my time. I try my hardest for these guys. Why shun me?

I admire Bib so much for what he does for me, and he is a good friend. Thanks Bib for supporting the Military. It means so much to me. I really have a lot of friends here that are so cool. Bib, Captain Hook, Pirate Steve, Twat, Dino, YGuy, you guys are great thanks for everything. BTW is Pirate Steve? Hopefully everything is ok. Anyways thanks guys for supporting me and being a great friend.

I am sorry to see such a lynching on me; this is a shame. I am good man, and am a patriot for the USA and have fought for this country as a US Marine and lost many friends to this war and various missions. I hate to see fighting and hatred towards one another. I would like to end all of this hostility between these forums; its not proving anything to anyone and it just hurts peoples feeling. Thunders and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] should be a close community of men. Not a USA vs. Russia cold war situation. That does nothing and all it does it make people feel bad in the end. I really like Thunders and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and all the other Penis Enlargement communities. We are all in it for the same purpose. To get a bigger penis and make some friend along the way and get support when we feel down. I hope this can shed light on the dark areas and I really hope to have a brighter future with the Penis Enlargement Community.

Sempre Fi
Supra
 
:D hahaha this guy is hilarious! Supra's the bad guy? WTF? How much crack did those guys smoke today?

I belong to both [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Forums and Thunder's Forums and I think they both have different views/ways of going about Penis Enlargement. I haven't been involved in either of these forums for very long so I can't understand why there is so much bickering going on. You can get a huge dick by reading and following exercises at either of these forums, so why argue?
 
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What a load of crap. You'd think it was a bunch of kids running that site.
 
I think there was an overreaction by them, but it also wasn't right for Supra to post as someone else... I'm not trying to defend or agree w/ anyone, I just know if someone posted as me, I would be extremely pissed
 
Look at that Hobby called me a miscreant and then closed the post. Man they have everyone on the leashes over there. I hope they know that it just makes them look worse and worse the more post editing and stunts they pull. How funny, Hobby you really need to get a life man and stop thinking your hte God over there and let people say what they want to say. You dont even let your own people post about the situation. Hmmm.. Oh yea that reminds me of the Natzis..how sad. I really doubt the members have so much to fear from me, than they do from you. What a shame.
 
I think that the guys over at Thunder's should worry more about helping each other with ideas on improving themselves or supporting guys who need it rather than worrying about putting caps on their sentences and making sure all the commas are in place. I haven't seen too many problems here, and the few I have most of the regular posters have really rallied against them and for the person it was against. Just one mans opinion!!!
 
I just wish they could see that they are hurting themselves more than they ever know. Every week a new post comes out about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and DLD and Me. They cannot get over the fact that we are doing well and they hate it.

With there hypocorism and biased views are stirring anger in the members. They say how it is a uncensored board but they sensor everything and either delete, close or move threads to get sealed away. When all it does it make it more known what their behavior is. I don’t even hold it against Thunder any more. I am sad that he allows this to go on. Hobby has seems to take over that board and no one controls what he does. Hobby if you can see what you do from someone else’s eyes, your own eyes might be opened up. Let your hatred go. It only makes you look worse and worse.

Thunder I am sorry that all of this has to happen. I wish that you could put it behind you and let it go. I wish that you did not let your moderators act this way. I have sent you plenty of emails telling you. Does DLD views differ so much as yours? What constitutes this behavior because some one has a pay site? Is that that bad. Who cares? What makes it right to dictate and talk bad about someone? If some one wants to join then they can. How is it any different than buying a bib? They both serve the purpose of Penis Enlargement. And you say that you delete what you feel is not good for the forum? Then why did you let the thread about bashing DLD stay up?

Hobby. I am very sorry you act this way. It is not helping your character out at all. You are looking worse and worse the more you censor, move and suppress people’s threads. I think that is your hobby. What gives you the right to do that? Because you are a tech mod?

West LA, You don’t even know me you so I’m not going there. I do know that you have visited DLD in person and know him personally. And that was freindship was lost over [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] starting. Do you know how sad that is, to loose a friendship over a forum. Gimmie a break and grow up man and get a life man. Man if I were not someone’s friend in the real world over a internet forum dispute, I Would feel like shit. You turned on DLD
 
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This is what that low life hobby said and lied

Right. This isn't a trial. He was caught red-handed violating another member's privacy by breaking into his account. Twice, remember. This isn't the first time. Who know! s how many others he has compromised. It's funny how the guilty try to turn things around and somehow blame their misdeeds on those who caught them.

I think his actions in this matter alone demonstrate what kind of person he is. You are the one dragging this out. Supra has been banned here under many different names, will remain banned, and anyone who thinks a person that pulls crap like this belongs on this forum has another think coming.


Me

Hey hobby are that stupid? I didn not hack, I did not violate anyones account, they let me use there user name and password. How is that hacking? It not, you retard. So stop saying that I am violating users rights. Yea I have registerd under a lot of user names, ohh what crime, send me to Levenworth. BTW you guys still have no legitamate reason for banning me in the first place.

You call me such names as "unbelieving, heretical, depraved, or villainous", It is you who are these things. I am none of these words amd never will be. I laugh in your face of these words from you hobby, grow up, you look like a ass right now
 
Goes to show the arrgonce of a few over at the other site. How the hell are you going to dogg another man because he does things different than the way you do them, and then use your power to fuck with him, thats what you call and arrogant bastard!
 
I may be wrong, but these arguments that go back and forth between the higher up members of the forums don't actually change much for the average member.

I'm sure there's no need for this. As far as I am concerned TP and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] are different forums, with different things to offer, and neither could be said to be better than the other.

Also neither has put the other forum down, afaik, but there has been rivalry between members.

My point is, most lurkers and average members aren't affected by this, so it's really not going to get anywhere. Supra you have a fantastic forum here at which you have a good position, so I don't see why you are worried about what mods at Thunder's think of you.

I was hoping this would all have been let go by now, this is Penis Enlargement not politics after all!

I think most members are like me, i.e. they browse both forums and enjoy the content, contribute when they can etc.

Anyway good luck in your future Penis Enlargementing, and let's cut this topic dead!
 
I know how you feel ICM, but If you look it is always started by Thunders, the DLD Thread, the THread about me and everything else. The name DLD AND SUPRA are bad words there. I did not start this, they did.

I could care less about hobby he is a loser anyways I am 10 times the man he is. The names he is calling me are ooutright wrong and benile. I never did anything to anyone at thunders. And still to this day that ban me, All they say is that I have registered under many user names. Ok, I know that. But why was a I van the VERY FIRST TIME? See no one wants to answer that. And I doubt that you will. You need to Tell andrews69 that he is not ban here, so stop lying and saying that he is.

Why do thunders lie about everything. Hobby says I hacked into there account. NO I DID NOT! They let me use there user name and password. Yet another thing they lied about. ICM it is obviously not a dead topic, casue they never let it die. They ban all the good memebers that know there stuff cause they are jealous.

I really hate to see all of this, you think I like this, NO! This would never have started expept West LA and hobby did it. Yea we all got peeople that dont like us. But I have freinds there. Bib, Twat, Dino, Y Guy and many others that are stand up men.

DLD has helped all those mods, hobby, west la, memento, and they all turned on him. What a disgrace. Arent you sick of all the lies all the hiding and the mockery that they are?
 
ICM said:
As far as I am concerned TP and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] are different forums, with different things to offer, and neither could be said to be better than the other.

I disagree. For me an environment that is about getting along and helping people out is easily better than an envrionment of hostility and criticism.
 
Absoluty right, how are thunders so different than [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words]. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] IS A FREE FORUM!!! SO IS Thunders. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] yes does have a paysite, who cares, you dont have to join if you dont want to. Thunders is attached to the BIB hanger, which is a great product, whats the deal with that? No one seems to mind about that. Whats the difference between buying a bib and buying a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] paysite membership. NONE AT ALL!!

Why can people not see this
 
As you can see the post has been closed, and yet hobby keeps bumping it even though no one can post on it. Hey Hobby, your getting no were man, at all. You look more and more bad every passing second. You know I did not hack into peoples accounts and steal passwords. That is impossible for a moderator to do so. The members willing let me log in as them.
 
See ICM thats the kind of vauge answers that I expect from peoples at thunders. I give a 100% detailed explanation of how it really, is and you know thats how it is, and all you says is "Peace".

I wish you would open your eyes man. I really do, your a cool guy.
 
Hey!! MEMNTO AND HOBBY? Are you Stupid I am diamondvanquish and dieanotherday, and greek martini, and jason bourne and Like 10 others. I didn not steal passwords, those were all my user names. Stop Lying!!! I did not steal passwords. Playa 7 and yves Gave them to me!!

If anyone wants know what is going on go here

http://www.Thund3rs Pl@ce.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26308
 
FUCKING LET IT GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought we agreed on this, Thund3rs Pl@ce is no business that needs to be discussed here.
 
Supra, I think that was what memento was saying.

Anyway, I think we should drop it. I dropped it over there, and I also said I wouldn't be posting at Thunders anymore.

Also notice that I and several other people asked to know why Supra was banned in the first place and NOBODY even tried to answer it. Go figure.

John
 
He was probably banned for not capitalizing an "I". Thats one reason I dont go there much anyway. Almost every thread goes something like this:
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Thread Starter:
" Hey I need some help with this exercize. I am not sure if i am doing it right. This is what I do..."
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Reply from a random Moderator:

" Please read the forum guidelines. You can get them by moving your mouse and clicking on that little button up there. Also, we have Spell Check for a reson[(<-even though I dont bother using it myself)]. Use it! As far as your question.. um, sorry I can't help you there [( I just have nothing better to do than be a pain in the ass, and instead of sending you a polite PM, we like to use public humiliation around here)]
 
This thread has nothing to do with penis enlargement so I am moving it into deep thoughts. Lets get back to Penis Enlargement and drop this.
 
bigbutnottoo said:
He was probably banned for not capitalizing an "I". Thats one reason I dont go there much anyway. Almost every thread goes something like this:
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Thread Starter:
" Hey I need some help with this exercize. I am not sure if i am doing it right. This is what I do..."
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Reply from a random Moderator:

" Please read the forum guidelines. You can get them by moving your mouse and clicking on that little button up there. Also, we have Spell Check for a reson[(<-even though I dont bother using it myself)]. Use it! As far as your question.. um, sorry I can't help you there [( I just have nothing better to do than be a pain in the ass, and instead of sending you a polite PM, we like to use public humiliation around here)]

You are so right. Thanks so much for supporting me and what is right. Thank you all.

Gandolf, I did drop, I did not bring this up, they did
 
Supra said:
West LA, You don’t even know me you so I’m not going there. I do know that you have visited DLD in person and know him personally. And that was freindship was lost over [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] starting. Do you know how sad that is, to loose a friendship over a forum. Gimmie a break and grow up man and get a life man. Man if I were not someone’s friend in the real world over a internet forum dispute, I Would feel like shit. You turned on DLD
DLD and I are still on speaking terms. Our friendship isn't "lost." I did a lot of behind the scenes work for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and was one of the first to join the pay site. I'm saddened by how things have turned out, but have never expressed any hostility toward him, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] or this forum.

My password warning post at Thunder's was an administrative thing I had to do as a moderator. My personal feelings toward Supra, DLD or anyone else did not enter into it. I'm not going to defend it, nor will I discuss why anyone was banned. I just wanted to refute the statement that my relationship with DLD has changed since he left Thund3rs Pl@ce. As far as I know it hasn't. He's welcome to say I'm wrong if I've misunderstood.
 
See you still wont say why I was banned, there is not one single troll post of anything that I have done on thunders, at all. You and the rest of yall turned on DLD. I talk to DLD on the phone daily and know the truth, so please dont lie.
 
WestLa IF you ahve done so much for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words], why do you have 1 post. Gimmie a break man. You guys lie, lie and lie. And lie to cover your lies. What a shame, no honor.
 
I have to correct something first. Supra and I started to become friends a few months ago. I never been treated bad or been deceived. After I heard he was banned from Thunders without any real reason I gave him my password to use at Thunders. Playa 7 also gave him the password and on his account he posted a thread trying to stop the bickering, but that did nothing.

You know he cannot hack into people’s accounts and steal passwords, so why don’t you take down that thread saying he is, the one in the main forum, people know you are lying. I was the one that gave him my password ok. For sure you know he is a moderator at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and at Men’s-Network and Penis Enlargement Forums. Everyone that is a mod knows that you cannot take peoples passwords. This makes your story even less credible. He is a fine guy and all the other forums love him. Supra would never do that to anyone let this be known and please stop deceiving people. Why do you hate him so much, he has never posted anything offense in this forum. And yet you still accuse him of that. I am very sad about this.

Yves
 
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West LA like I said you have no personal feeling to me cause you dont know me. But I do know you and you are a snake. You try and call me out as a troll when I have not been. You say I hack and I dont. Yves and admitted that He gave me his passwords. Why do you lie?
 
I PMed memento hoping he would give me a link to your 'troll' posts. All he said was do a search (haha) for GreekMartini and read the posts for myself. The only thing I could find after reading several threads was that they didn't like your goal of 13x7 or whatever it was and they didn't like the fact that you said 7 inches was a conservative girth. I didn't see anyone calling you a troll, only saying you were full of BS. Then you aren't there anymore. High goals are no reason to ban anyone, IMO. But maybe DLD was banned for the same reason and they just used the excuse of him owning a paysite? Whatever. All I know is I'm not going back there.

John
 
Oh ya!!! Great man, now I remember. I wanted 13X7, I still do, but 10X7 is cool as well. So what. Its my dick. And they bashed and ban me for it.
 
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