Please advice - routine and progress

[trustr1]

P.s are you aware of issue with receiving update mail alerts to gmail or in general? I stopped receiving emails couple of days before the site went down for the first time.. and still don't get them.. its annoying

 

[oldandlively]

P.s are you aware of issue with receiving update mail alerts to gmail or in general? I stopped receiving emails couple of days before the site went down for the first time.. and still don't get them.. its annoying

Yes. GMail is the only one that cause trouble due to the security clearance. Every other email servers will accept our emails accept for Gmail. We're working in authenticating with Gmail at the moment as a bulk email server. Getting GMail to accept us without jumping through hoops is quite annoying. 7 days and still counting.

 

[trustr1]

Using an extender 60min a day for a week and a half now with increased weight and some of it bundled and ads rest of the day on low traction for length.
Was able to measure 19.0 bpel couple of times recently. I hope its real gains.

For girth i added kind of soft clamping to my routine for the past sessions. Not really sure the exact rules here. I mainly put toe shields (2-5 usually) folded on top of each other at the base after i gave erection and i edge a bit to keep it from turning flaccid. I also put cap protector on my glans to create some pressure from both sides.
Sometime i play with rings. Sometime i do that outside of my central excercise like i have morning wood... take advantage of that and put it on. And of and on.

Today most engorged measured while semi erect was 13.2cm under this "clamping" (my eg is 11.5).
To be clear i dont think that this engorgement is bigger than while doing ssj (i can't measure while i do ssj).
I think the only benefit it might havr is the constant grip that is easier here than with hands that i lose erection more easily. But definately dont think its better.

Today i had quick weird pain in 9inhg. Immedietly released pressure and went to lower force.

Overall it was intense i guess as in next pumps i felt dull pain at 5inhg. And at the end of the session my penis felt exhusted.
In any case the expansion after was nothing special. Seems like 12.3-4.

Thanks

 

[trustr1]

Today i could not measure more than 18.5 bpel again
This dick really plays trick on me or i just pretty bad with taking measures.
I keep with the extender 1 hour a day at around 7lb mostly. Going less and more of 7 during the session. Some time with bundles some without. And introduced erect/semi erect manual streching as DLD suggested. ADS for all day.

No gains at the girth as well hence i was adding some more time(takes me 90mins in bathroom every time), pressure, and frequency as well.. really hope to see something good soon.

Man.. it's really hard work.

 

[oldandlively]

Today i could not measure more than 18.5 bpel again
This dick really plays trick on me or i just pretty bad with taking measures.
I keep with the extender 1 hour a day at around 7lb mostly. Going less and more of 7 during the session. Some time with bundles some without. And introduced erect/semi erect manual streching as DLD suggested. ADS for all day.

No gains at the girth as well hence i was adding some more time(takes me 90mins in bathroom every time), pressure, and frequency as well.. really hope to see something good soon.

Man.. it's really hard work.

This is going one step extreme, but if you are ready for it.

This is using bundled method, applying warm heat while you are doing the stretch. However, you are going to hold in a twist and hold for a period of time. Example;

If you are doing a length routine for 60 minutes, spend 10 minutes to do what you need to do with warm up stretches.

You will then spend 20 minutes with your penis rotated to one direction as much as you can. Make notes of how many degrees of rotation that is. Apply traction force in a dynamic level every 5 minutes, either be 5lbs, 7lbs, or even 8lbs. The traction force must change. Make a note when you change the traction force and for how long. The stretch can be BTC, downwards, or at some downward angle.

The next 20 minutes, rotate the opposite direction, and mirror the previous exercises.

Spend the last 5 to 10 minutes to do a straightening session without any rotations. Keep the penis straight while you tug and pull the penis between 4lbs and 8lbs of traction force.

Whenever you can, apply as much heat as you can. Heat should be at your core temperature or 4F to 6F higher. 102F is good. 110F is perfect. Keep an eye out on your skin reactions to heat application.

We are pushing your tissues to reach malleability level and maintain pliability. Your tunica will be screaming.

 

[trustr1]

This is going one step extreme, but if you are ready for it.

This is using bundled method, applying warm heat while you are doing the stretch. However, you are going to hold in a twist and hold for a period of time. Example;

If you are doing a length routine for 60 minutes, spend 10 minutes to do what you need to do with warm up stretches.

You will then spend 20 minutes with your penis rotated to one direction as much as you can. Make notes of how many degrees of rotation that is. Apply traction force in a dynamic level every 5 minutes, either be 5lbs, 7lbs, or even 8lbs. The traction force must change. Make a note when you change the traction force and for how long. The stretch can be BTC, downwards, or at some downward angle.

The next 20 minutes, rotate the opposite direction, and mirror the previous exercises.

Spend the last 5 to 10 minutes to do a straightening session without any rotations. Keep the penis straight while you tug and pull the penis between 4lbs and 8lbs of traction force.

Whenever you can, apply as much heat as you can. Heat should be at your core temperature or 4F to 6F higher. 102F is good. 110F is perfect. Keep an eye out on your skin reactions to heat application.

We are pushing your tissues to reach malleability level and maintain pliability. Your tunica will be screaming.

Will do from my next session.
I actually already apply totalman infra red heat wrap but im not sure my tissues reaching optimal temprature..

Thanks sir!

 

[oldandlively]

Will do from my next session.
I actually already apply totalman infra red heat wrap but im not sure my tissues reaching optimal temprature..

Thanks sir!

Measure the surface temperature after 5, 10, and 15 minutes while you are resting. 5 minutes only warm down to 4mm, 10 minutes tend to warm down to 7mm. 15 minutes is normally the perfect time to measure the surface temperature to predict the internal tissue temperature for the entire penis. That temperature going past 105F is critical.

 

[trustr1]

Today srt 553 session was good.
Im doing 5min warm up pump.
10 minutes (seperated to 2x5) of both ssj and soft clamping. And 5 min pump again x3.
I notice as i work harder on the clamp etc i can reach lower inhg in pump.
I also put infra wrap while i was clamping.
The max engorged with clamp was 13.0 (not new). But the post session eg was 12.6 which is a new high for me.
I drink pomegranate juice in the middle of the session (usually drink before) but i doubt how much impact it actually had.

In pic my D tied up post session for 7min.

 

[oldandlively]

Commonly soft clamping, or restrictive blood flow, not to be confused with the crazy constrictive devices that stop all blood flow, does help to "inflate" or "retain" the blood pressures to help with pumping. But for those brothers that don't have problem with erections, don't try this method. You will over pressurize your penis in no time.

 

[DLD]

Today srt 553 session was good.
Im doing 5min warm up pump.
10 minutes (seperated to 2x5) of both ssj and soft clamping. And 5 min pump again x3.

Excellent this is the way to go with girth as there is no better exercise than the 5x5x5. The soft wrapping may be the reason you are seeing this. Clamping is a very dangerous place to be. I would substitute soft clamping for the LengthMaster. The LM is the fastest way and safest way to gain length.

I notice as i work harder on the clamp etc i can reach lower inhg in pump.
I also put infra wrap while i was clamping.
The max engorged with clamp was 13.0 (not new). But the post session eg was 12.6 which is a new high for me.
I drink pomegranate juice in the middle of the session (usually drink before) but i doubt how much impact it actually had.

In pic my D tied up post session for 7min.

congratulations on that increase! The reason you are seeing this unevenness is due to the soft clamping. As I said there is no safe way to clamp. What is Pomegranate juice doing for you?

 

[trustr1]

Excellent this is the way to go with girth as there is no better exercise than the 5x5x5. The soft wrapping may be the reason you are seeing this. Clamping is a very dangerous place to be. I would substitute soft clamping for the LengthMaster. The LM is the fastest way and safest way to gain length.


congratulations on that increase! The reason you are seeing this unevenness is due to the soft clamping. As I said there is no safe way to clamp. What is Pomegranate juice doing for you?

Thanks man.
I have read it aid in releasing nitric oxide and improving blood flow.
I can't say i really feel a difference with/without

 

[trustr1]

This is going one step extreme, but if you are ready for it.

This is using bundled method, applying warm heat while you are doing the stretch. However, you are going to hold in a twist and hold for a period of time. Example;

If you are doing a length routine for 60 minutes, spend 10 minutes to do what you need to do with warm up stretches.

You will then spend 20 minutes with your penis rotated to one direction as much as you can. Make notes of how many degrees of rotation that is. Apply traction force in a dynamic level every 5 minutes, either be 5lbs, 7lbs, or even 8lbs. The traction force must change. Make a note when you change the traction force and for how long. The stretch can be BTC, downwards, or at some downward angle.

The next 20 minutes, rotate the opposite direction, and mirror the previous exercises.

Spend the last 5 to 10 minutes to do a straightening session without any rotations. Keep the penis straight while you tug and pull the penis between 4lbs and 8lbs of traction force.

Whenever you can, apply as much heat as you can. Heat should be at your core temperature or 4F to 6F higher. 102F is good. 110F is perfect. Keep an eye out on your skin reactions to heat application.

We are pushing your tissues to reach malleability level and maintain pliability. Your tunica will be screaming.

Man
I tried it today..
I don't know if that was because it should have been my day off or not but it was burning as HELL i did twist and a half+ and i barely suffered 4lb.. ended up doing barely 10min each side and 10 stright and i done.
Weirdly enough my pre bpfsl measurement was 20.7 while post bpfsl i was barely able to reach that. Im pretty new to these measurements and i think many deviations can occur by different things. But if its correct i wonder if that was a sign for over stress.

As for the heat i don't have equipment to measure. Can i do that with the thermometer you use when u have a fever?

Regarding the soft clamping i understand you don't approve. To be honest im scared of it myself and always trying to be very attentive to the feelings and be careful. I guess i reached a point where i feel i have to up my game to gain :-/ but with that not to go wild..

P.s the picture i uploaded was not fully erect (maybe 60-70%) i don't do such restrain fully erect.

Sometime i think maybe it would be easier to just inject some filers and done with that. But i assume that would mean the end of PE (no more length either) and also i don't believe it's like the real growth of tissues, but more of appearance..

 

[oldandlively]

Man
I tried it today..
I don't know if that was because it should have been my day off or not but it was burning as HELL i did twist and a half+ and i barely suffered 4lb.. ended up doing barely 10min each side and 10 stright and i done.

Looks like you're under intense stress load there. Work smart, and it ends up with the bonus of it also works hard on you.

Weirdly enough my pre bpfsl measurement was 20.7 while post bpfsl i was barely able to reach that. Im pretty new to these measurements and i think many deviations can occur by different things. But if its correct i wonder if that was a sign for over stress.

No worries. Just measure the same method over and over again and don't deviate. After a routine, it's commonly for the penis to generate a bit of a tug back when a new routine applies. Keep at it for a week and report back as the penis has more chance to adopt the new routine.

As for the heat i don't have equipment to measure. Can i do that with the thermometer you use when u have a fever?

Yes you can. You ca place the thermometer underneath the fold of the penis, between the scrotal sac and the underside of the penis. That's fine too. A surface IR thermometer is better, but whatever you have available.

Regarding the soft clamping i understand you don't approve. To be honest im scared of it myself and always trying to be very attentive to the feelings and be careful. I guess i reached a point where i feel i have to up my game to gain :-/ but with that not to go wild..

I don't condone hard clamping, but soft clamping, such as a proper sized penis ring or silicone sleeve, I have no issue with that since I use them myself during pumping (such a donut with a smaller silicone ring built in). But a full device designed to cut off blood completely, that's is trouble waiting for you at the door. But do monitor your penis like a predator waiting for a prey when you are using any restrictive implements. The chance of things go wrong is not ZERO.

P.s the picture i uploaded was not fully erect (maybe 60-70%) i don't do such restrain fully erect.

Sometime i think maybe it would be easier to just inject some filers and done with that. But i assume that would mean the end of PE (no more length either) and also i don't believe it's like the real growth of tissues, but more of appearance..

Yeah. How many bad story do you hear about synthetically added fillers that gone bad..real bad. Natural filler using your own PRP is only temporary, and it can be quite costly after a period of time. However, it doesn't solve the rest of the other issues. Unfortunately, like it or not, PE is literally is for life as you age. Your penile health depends on your intervention to keep it functional. Just like every part of your body, you neglect it, it depreciates and heading toward atrophy.

 

[trustr1]

Thanks!
Great, i will check the heat on my next session or just dedicated testing tomorrow. I read someone on another PE forum who was inserting some thermometer inside his urthea to validate he is on the right spot.

 

[oldandlively]

I read someone on another PE forum who was inserting some thermometer inside his urthea to validate he is on the right spot.

Well, that surely get a more accurate reading, but, DAMN!

 

[DLD]

Thanks!
Great, i will check the heat on my next session or just dedicated testing tomorrow. I read someone on another PE forum who was inserting some thermometer inside his urthea to validate he is on the right spot.

Let me guess, Thund3rs Pl@ce?

 

[oldandlively]

Let me guess, Thund3rs Pl@ce?

I also saw over at Re@@it as well.

 

[DLD]

I also saw over at Re@@it as well.

Both pieces of shit. We will soon conquer and overcome them. Being ranked at #1 they will soon be #2. They must be scared

 

[oldandlively]

Both pieces of shit. We will soon conquer and overcome them. Being ranked at #1 they will soon be #2. They must be scared

Come now, be humble. The sources are meant to proliferate. Data is being shared among the brothers from all areas and various forums. It takes many ingredients to make a meal, and it will take quite a few resources to advance PE into the next golden era.

 

[DLD]

Ive been humble for long enough. I agree with sharing of information but when they steal our products and exercises with no credit pisses me off.

 

[oldandlively]

Ive been humble for long enough. I agree with sharing of information but when they steal our products and exercises with no credit pisses me off.

But think about this carefully. If the brothers keep on using a method that others cannot provide sufficient info on, and they keep on duplicating the efforts to explain why without satisfactory, the ultimate ends will land where? It comes all the way back here.

There's an old saying from Oscar Wilde that goes, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness." They can imitate but they cannot duplicate. The info is hard-dated and recorded as evidence. The info is already far imprinted all over the internet. Infringement is a very thin boundary anyone can try to cross, but ends up belly up at the end. So, be patient my Guru. Just allow things to flow, and pray for the brothers to succeed as you lead them to success.

 

[DLD]

I pray you are right. Listen, I want every man to grow no matter where they are from. My goal as the Guru of MOS is to help all in anyway I can.

 

[trustr1]

Let me guess, Thund3rs Pl@ce?

Where else ?

 

[DLD]

Where else ?

 

[trustr1]

Not every day is christmas.
Tonight my girth work as usual and soft clamping was less productive. Less post extension that usual. And definetly not extra expansion as last time.

I was actually doing soft clamping with edging just yesterday (without pumping or ssj) for maybe 50min with breaks in between.
I might be overdoing it and sabotage my progress.
I also have some pain in the glans if i squize it for example just from about the previous big expantion session. But i have no clue if its related to soft clamping or to the vac extender (that was my first guess).

Couple of months ago i felt c jelqs was working for me. But i had numerous events later on with it where i felt like something off. Or sudden pain. Etc. And i stopped. After some time i read on R3dd1t many peole say jelqing is very dangerous so i even more afraid from it now.

Took couple of days off from extending and also today i could not do it. Felt painful even at low weight without bundle.

Also did the List today 5min on H (20hz). Oddly felt it less deep then with the lower hz.
To be honest i still don't feel anything special from it.

 

[DLD]

Perhaps you should migrate to a new routine that will bring steady growth. Have you considered SRT as it is written? I would check it out and read it in full to master the routine. I promise with this routine you will see incredible growth.

 

[trustr1]

Perhaps you should migrate to a new routine that will bring steady growth. Have you considered SRT as it is written? I would check it out and read it in full to master the routine. I promise with this routine you will see incredible growth.

I have.
Going by it's principals.

 

[DLD]

I have.
Going by it's principals.

Thanks for checking it out. It will definitely help you to get to the size you desire

 

[oldandlively]

Not every day is christmas.
Tonight my girth work as usual and soft clamping was less productive. Less post extension that usual. And definetly not extra expansion as last time.

Alternate week between soft and no soft clamping. The tissues may have reached momentary fatigue loads from over expansion.

I was actually doing soft clamping with edging just yesterday (without pumping or ssj) for maybe 50min with breaks in between.
I might be overdoing it and sabotage my progress.
I also have some pain in the glans if i squize it for example just from about the previous big expantion session. But i have no clue if its related to soft clamping or to the vac extender (that was my first guess).

Yep. This is over fatigues. Relac by reducing pumping 1 day on and 2 days off for the next two weeks. It prevents you from having to reset from the newbie pumping routines.

Couple of months ago i felt c jelqs was working for me. But i had numerous events later on with it where i felt like something off. Or sudden pain. Etc. And i stopped. After some time i read on R3dd1t many peole say jelqing is very dangerous so i even more afraid from it now.

Took couple of days off from extending and also today i could not do it. Felt painful even at low weight without bundle.

Rather C-jelq, use both hands open, using the palms instead od the fingers.

Also did the List today 5min on H (20hz). Oddly felt it less deep then with the lower hz.
To be honest i still don't feel anything special from it.

Isn't the LIST radial settings supposed to be 5Hz to 12Hz?

 

[trustr1]

Alternate week between soft and no soft clamping. The tissues may have reached momentary fatigue loads from over expansion.



Yep. This is over fatigues. Relac by reducing pumping 1 day on and 2 days off for the next two weeks. It prevents you from having to reset from the newbie pumping routines.



Rather C-jelq, use both hands open, using the palms instead od the fingers.



Isn't the LIST radial settings supposed to be 5Hz to 12Hz?

My LIST working between 10,15,20hz.

Yeah i will try to rest and lower pressure. I also have pain when i pee because the stream flows through and i guess 'touch' the painful inner spot on the down side just below the glans ... i must let it heal.

P.s i have measured the heat with regular thermometer after being wrapped in the ir heat wrap on highest heat very tight on the penis.
I measured once between penis base and sac as you suggested and got only 36c.
I then measured on the shaft (where the heat was applied directly!) folded on itself over the thermometer and got only 37.5.
I either don't measure right or it's super ineffective for PE.
P.s this wrap has the IR leds covered by a cloth. So you don't get direct exposure.
I bought another one from Ali express with leds exposed. I will try that out as well. But i read you should not attach exposed leds directly to skin.

 

[DLD]

My LIST working between 10,15,20hz.

Yeah i will try to rest and lower pressure. I also have pain when i pee because the stream flows through and i guess 'touch' the painful inner spot on the down side just below the glans ... i must let it heal.

P.s i have measured the heat with regular thermometer after being wrapped in the ir heat wrap on highest heat very tight on the penis.
I measured once between penis base and sac as you suggested and got only 36c.
I then measured on the shaft (where the heat was applied directly!) folded on itself over the thermometer and got only 37.5.
I either don't measure right or it's super ineffective for PE.
P.s this wrap has the IR leds covered by a cloth. So you don't get direct exposure.
I bought another one from Ali express with leds exposed. I will try that out as well. But i read you should not attach exposed leds directly to skin.

When will you have it? I can't wait to see it in action. Thanks for posting we need as much data as possible especially pe exercises to better inform our other brothers

 

[trustr1]

When will you have it? I can't wait to see it in action. Thanks for posting we need as much data as possible especially pe exercises to better inform our other brothers

The LIST? already have it. Used it maybe 8 times already. Nothing special to report yet.

 

[DLD]

Ok, thanks for updating us

 

[oldandlively]

The LIST? already have it. Used it maybe 8 times already. Nothing special to report yet.

What you can't see and feel doesn't mean it doesn't work. Allow it to have multi-session routine according to the application methods, and observe in the long term. Commonly, there's an 8 time minimum and 25 times average application using radial application methods. The focus application is much stronger so it's faster in results, but the cost is crazy higher.

 

[kriskros]

My friend, I beg if you could trust my words. I've been in your position. Your words show so much mental distress. You remind of me. If you could believe the process, stop reading other forums (urethra thermometer seriously?? ), stop measuring all the time, stop buying things from here and there and just put time and effort on just SRT + 5x5x3, it is guaranteed to have the best possible gains. This comes from me, a guy that has tried everything, have taken every pill you can imagine, have done every experiment you can read on Google. There is a crazy science under 5x5x3 microtrauma and SRT. Are you in a hurry? Do 5x5x5 instead.
Just to let you know (because I encounter many people with this problem), soft clamping or clamping is not working if you are not feeling this nice pain/internal stretching sensation. That means that if you do 100 workouts, until you master yourself which is the fundamental of PE, it is guaranteed to lose many days in the learning process. The thing is that this is not the case with 5x5x3. Even if you try to cheat on 5x5x3, you're still doing P.E

 

[DLD]

My friend, I beg if you could trust my words. I've been in your position. Your words show so much mental distress. You remind of me. If you could believe the process, stop reading other forums (urethra thermometer seriously?? ), stop measuring all the time, stop buying things from here and there and just put time and effort on just SRT + 5x5x3, it is guaranteed to have the best possible gains. This comes from me, a guy that has tried everything, have taken every pill you can imagine, have done every experiment you can read on Google. There is a crazy science under 5x5x3 microtrauma and SRT. Are you in a hurry? Do 5x5x5 instead.
Just to let you know (because I encounter many people with this problem), soft clamping or clamping is not working if you are not feeling this nice pain/internal stretching sensation. That means that if you do 100 workouts, until you master yourself which is the fundamental of PE, it is guaranteed to lose many days in the learning process. The thing is that this is not the case with 5x5x3. Even if you try to cheat on 5x5x3, you're still doing P.E

I could not say it better myself. Excellent post!

 

[oldandlively]

My friend, I beg if you could trust my words. I've been in your position. Your words show so much mental distress. You remind of me. If you could believe the process, stop reading other forums (urethra thermometer seriously?? ), stop measuring all the time, stop buying things from here and there and just put time and effort on just SRT + 5x5x3, it is guaranteed to have the best possible gains. This comes from me, a guy that has tried everything, have taken every pill you can imagine, have done every experiment you can read on Google. There is a crazy science under 5x5x3 microtrauma and SRT. Are you in a hurry? Do 5x5x5 instead.
Just to let you know (because I encounter many people with this problem), soft clamping or clamping is not working if you are not feeling this nice pain/internal stretching sensation. That means that if you do 100 workouts, until you master yourself which is the fundamental of PE, it is guaranteed to lose many days in the learning process. The thing is that this is not the case with 5x5x3. Even if you try to cheat on 5x5x3, you're still doing P.E

If our brother is going this far to vouch for the program, I can testify that he has gone through quite a bit to reach where he is now. It was a hard battle that he went through, and many evaluations have to be considered constantly, as his routines are modified according to each phase of his journey. It was phenomenal to reach where is now.

 

[trustr1]

My friend, I beg if you could trust my words. I've been in your position. Your words show so much mental distress. You remind of me. If you could believe the process, stop reading other forums (urethra thermometer seriously?? ), stop measuring all the time, stop buying things from here and there and just put time and effort on just SRT + 5x5x3, it is guaranteed to have the best possible gains. This comes from me, a guy that has tried everything, have taken every pill you can imagine, have done every experiment you can read on Google. There is a crazy science under 5x5x3 microtrauma and SRT. Are you in a hurry? Do 5x5x5 instead.
Just to let you know (because I encounter many people with this problem), soft clamping or clamping is not working if you are not feeling this nice pain/internal stretching sensation. That means that if you do 100 workouts, until you master yourself which is the fundamental of PE, it is guaranteed to lose many days in the learning process. The thing is that this is not the case with 5x5x3. Even if you try to cheat on 5x5x3, you're still doing P.E

Thank you brother.
Indeed i'm in some distress to gain faster.
Didn't gain length since april 2024. And girth since nov 24 (which is somewhat less far away).
In any case i keep doing SRT 5X5X3 as the basic of my girth routine.

 

[DLD]

Thank you brother.
Indeed i'm in some distress to gain faster.
Didn't gain length since april 2024. And girth since nov 24 (which is somewhat less far away).
In any case i keep doing SRT 5X5X3 as the basic of my girth routine.

That is the truth! Nothing compares to SRT

 

[trustr1]

My LIST working between 10,15,20hz.

Yeah i will try to rest and lower pressure. I also have pain when i pee because the stream flows through and i guess 'touch' the painful inner spot on the down side just below the glans ... i must let it heal.

P.s i have measured the heat with regular thermometer after being wrapped in the ir heat wrap on highest heat very tight on the penis.
I measured once between penis base and sac as you suggested and got only 36c.
I then measured on the shaft (where the heat was applied directly!) folded on itself over the thermometer and got only 37.5.
I either don't measure right or it's super ineffective for PE.
P.s this wrap has the IR leds covered by a cloth. So you don't get direct exposure.
I bought another one from Ali express with leds exposed. I will try that out as well. But i read you should not attach exposed leds directly to skin.

Also tried the exposed led heat wrap today. Didn't measure but my penis felt cold so i doubt real heat was made.. i might go back using heat fan like SIM was using (me as well in the past).
In general i have cold hands and feet (all peripheria areas) so maybe that also have its effect.

 

[kriskros]

Also tried the exposed led heat wrap today. Didn't measure but my penis felt cold so i doubt real heat was made.. i might go back using heat fan like SIM was using (me as well in the past).
In general i have cold hands and feet (all peripheria areas) so maybe that also have its effect.

Just go for MOSRED if you can afford. Dont waste time on things / devices users haven't got results.
If you have cold feet then, you should check your health for other issues because if you have health issues then the PE work might get slow down.

 

[trustr1]

Just go for MOSRED if you can afford. Dont waste time on things / devices users haven't got results.
If you have cold feet then, you should check your health for other issues because if you have health issues then the PE work might get slow down.

I have MOSRED but can't use it for an hour extending and can't apply it only on my D, also it required goggles which i can't put while extending.

I checked that, thanks, it seems to be just my body tendency or due to stress (not grounded). Nothing special found.

 

[oldandlively]

Also tried the exposed led heat wrap today. Didn't measure but my penis felt cold so i doubt real heat was made.. i might go back using heat fan like SIM was using (me as well in the past).
In general i have cold hands and feet (all peripheria areas) so maybe that also have its effect.

A majority of males and females have cold extremities. My wife is one of them. ICE COLD. This is due to poor blood circulation, and of course, having cold or cool environment don't have much either. This is where we have to evaluate the need to boost our blood circulation to an optimum level. Using MoS Red for a full hour is unhealthy. Using a heater blower or a small space heater is a great thing, but based on where you are, it can add up on costs. This is why we try to find ways to deploy heat using cheaper means, such as a rice sock during lengthening, if possible, or using warm water, when possible for pumping. You don't have to constantly expose it to heat, but every 5 minutes or so, allow 2 to 3 minutes of heat application to get the tissues more malleable again.

As you mention, stress can increase cortisol loading, and cortisol loading dilates the bloodstream, causing your extremities to go cold. During phases of high stresses, I back off from doing PE for a bit, just enough to maintain. Constant high stresses and intermediate to extreme PE can cause more harm than good. Just something to think about.

 

[DLD]

A majority of males and females have cold extremities. My wife is one of them. ICE COLD. This is due to poor blood circulation, and of course, having cold or cool environment don't have much either. This is where we have to evaluate the need to boost our blood circulation to an optimum level. Using MoS Red for a full hour is unhealthy. Using a heater blower or a small space heater is a great thing, but based on where you are, it can add up on costs. This is why we try to find ways to deploy heat using cheaper means, such as a rice sock during lengthening, if possible, or using warm water, when possible for pumping. You don't have to constantly expose it to heat, but every 5 minutes or so, allow 2 to 3 minutes of heat application to get the tissues more malleable again.

As you mention, stress can increase cortisol loading, and cortisol loading dilates the bloodstream, causing your extremities to go cold. During phases of high stresses, I back off from doing PE for a bit, just enough to maintain. Constant high stresses and intermediate to extreme PE can cause more harm than good. Just something to think about.

I have this issue. My fingers and toes are always so cold. I even need to wear gloves inside the house. I have no idea how to correct this. I know the MOSRED helps big time. Maybe I will use it to keep my hands and feel warm. I agree the cortisol point as I have experienced this for a long time. This is when I stopped worrying so much and I no longer have that issue. When worry comes about all I need to do is ask Holy Spirit to calm my heart. Worry does nothing to help us. Take things one at a time. Make a list of what your worries are and knock them out one at a time.

 

[trustr1]

Absolutely right DLD. Thank you.


I made my extending session today with a heat fan in addition to IR heat wrap and (thanks to heat fan) i felt different expirience
Even though i didn't see bpfsl increase post session. But my D was much more loose warm and hang lower in oppose to cold and less hand in previous post sessions. Done half of my session bundled to max i could 5lb average

 

[kriskros]

I have this issue. My fingers and toes are always so cold. I even need to wear gloves inside the house. I have no idea how to correct this. I know the MOSRED helps big time. Maybe I will use it to keep my hands and feel warm. I agree the cortisol point as I have experienced this for a long time. This is when I stopped worrying so much and I no longer have that issue. When worry comes about all I need to do is ask Holy Spirit to calm my heart. Worry does nothing to help us. Take things one at a time. Make a list of what your worries are and knock them out one at a time.

For more than 16 years, I had 40% more cortisol than the standard. It was something affecting my health (also had these issues you are talking about). A specific blend of ashwagandgha called "Ashwagandha shoden" 2x120mg (morning, before bed) and 400mg Phosphatidylserine before sleep lowered my cortisol levels to the place there should be. Mentioning it just in case.

 

[trustr1]

For more than 16 years, I had 40% more cortisol than the standard. It was something affecting my health (also had these issues you are talking about). A specific blend of ashwagandgha called "Ashwagandha shoden" 2x120mg (morning, before bed) and 400mg Phosphatidylserine before sleep lowered my cortisol levels to the place there should be. Mentioning it just in case.

Thanks! That's interesting. I never had morning cortisol higher than normal in blood test. I just such a vulnarable sensitive character. It's more difficult for me to handle stress compared to normal people. I took ashwagandha in the past but not this specific type.

 

[kriskros]

I have taken all types of all herbs. I am a human experiment myself. Trying to find the cause of my problems where doctors and medical treatment did not work.
Ashwagandha Shoden has 35% withanolides which means that its so concentrated, that even 5grams of pure ashwagandha its still not better than this small pill. The trick here is Phospatidylserine. Somehow, It fixed my "circadic rythm".
What I mean by that:: I am Data Scientist. Night is my domain. for more than 20 years my life was "night" and I was waking up around 14.00 for quite some time which yes destoyed my health. After that, whatever pill i took? did nothing for me to sleep. Xanax, Tavor, Lexotanil, nothing.
Phospatidylserine helped me somehow fix my circadic rythm, making me "want to sleep" at night. Which is something that was like a gift for me, if you imagine that I was sleeping after 04:00 each night.

 

[trustr1]

Interesting. I might look into it.
I also like to sleep late (1-2+) and wake up at 10:30-11:30.
It's not that i can't sleep early. But i like my nights.

Is it that one?

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[kriskros]

Yes