I want to get back into pe, I have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] already and I'm trying to decide if I should get a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] or [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]? I have the original [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words], but I my skin swells up too much with that one. If the answer is [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], which [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is the best? The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydromax[/words] x series or extreme series with the handpump?
Phallosan or bathmate?
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
explain the 'skin swells-up too much'...if you're retaining too much fluid, you'll want to employ the 5X5X3 method explained in Mike's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread...essentially you're breaking-up your pumping routine into three 5 minute mini-sessions and jelqing in between to remove as much FR as possible. All [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]'s are based on the same principles, so changing models won't help...changing your technique will 
Wannahuge;712617 said:
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Sorry, I meant water retention. I thought I put that. And ok I will give that a try. I know the new bathmates have more vacuum so that had me wanting to get a new one to get better results. I really want to get length and girth gains, that's why I was kind of leaning towards a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], but maybe I should just keep using the one I already have a save money for a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]
Wannahuge;712640 said:
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doublelongdaddy;712650 said:
[words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is more length [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is more girth, whichever is your goal more than the other choose the appropriate device
doublelongdaddy;712650 said:
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the wine-vac mod? And yes I have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words], I plan on using this the most
kyomoto
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Wannahuge;712668 said:
wine-vac mod is this: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/bathmate-hercules-goliath-hydromax-x20-x30-x40-x50-and-hydromax-xtreme-hydropump-forum/63573-simple-mod-to-increase-vacuum-pressure.html
its a way to increase pressure and intenisty ont he [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
Wannahuge;712685 said:
just go easy when you first start w/it...the amount of pressure you can achieve is more than your d!ck will be able to handle
If you want length, go hardcore by getting the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and combining it with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundled stretches. If girth is what you are looking for, stick to pumping and take all the advice above.
I would get the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] if I were you and your main target is lenght,keep in mind that [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] can also help gain girth but not as much as direct girth work of course. another plus for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is that you can wear it all day and can be concealed under your clothes and I think I read somewhere thats its more comfortable than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].Strive for monstrosity my friend 
What's up brother? I hope you are still in the game?