Overtraining on purpose for maximum gains?

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I`m a newbie and I`ve been thinking. Is it possible that If I take no days off, no matter how fatigued my penis will be and no matter that I wont be able to achieve erections at all, would this force growth in big amounts?

I mean, I hope this wouldn't destroy or kill my penis, I`ve never done this but have just thought about it conceptually.

So if I were to ignore my eventually fatigued penis and lost abillity to get an erection, and just keep going and going, do you think this would result in massive growth or just a destroyed penis?

BTW, I only do clamping and pumping. My goal is 2 inches more in girth and 1 in length. I wont do length work becasue I know it`ll come from the bathmate naturally.
 
V-TAX said:
I`m a newbie and I`ve been thinking. Is it possible that If I take no days off, no matter how fatigued my penis will be and no matter that I wont be able to achieve erections at all, would this force growth in big amounts?

I mean, I hope this wouldn't destroy or kill my penis, I`ve never done this but have just thought about it conceptually.

So if I were to ignore my eventually fatigued penis and lost abillity to get an erection, and just keep going and going, do you think this would result in massive growth or just a destroyed penis?

BTW, I only do clamping and pumping. My goal is 2 inches more in girth and 1 in length. I wont do length work becasue I know it`ll come from the bathmate naturally.
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I think it’s a good idea if you want to gain length-wise as i’m trying to induce that fatigue as well by hanging as many hours as possible.

For girth you shouldn’t fatigue till the point you can’t get any erections anymore. That’s counterproductive..

You can do length work 24/7 but girth work needs adequate rest.
 
DLD said:
You know what my thoughts are going to be LOL the more the better in my opinion. I got to where I got to because I trained every day for 12 hours. I never took a day off and I was always pushing intensity creating new exercises or tools or some other angle to increase my ability to gain.
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Haha yeah, I knew actually LOL Yeah thats an immense amount of dedication, lots of respect! I know you did more than just pumping (and or clamping) also.

My idea would be to only pump and clamp, so would you still advise your approach with my routine? even though I will definitively lose my ability to get erect pretty quickly, but just keep doing it no matter what?

Also, Maybe I should do a one month experiment, just to have that as a benchmark at first to see how it goes with no rest days, but I have to admit that I`m SHIT SCARED to destroy my dick completely...................... becasue it has happened before when I went 2.5 weeks one time with no time off, and my dick was just dead for a week or more...
 
I would say to experiment a bit if you have that freedom to find out what’s going to work best. I can tell you what I do but it’s going to come down to what works for you best. So let’s try this and see how it works out and perhaps find a smart way forward.
 
DLD said:
I would say to experiment a bit if you have that freedom to find out what’s going to work best. I can tell you what I do but it’s going to come down to what works for you best. So let’s try this and see how it works out and perhaps find a smart way forward.
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Yeah that sounds like a good idea. Will do. Have thought about pumping two times a day also, one intense with clamping and then one at night or later in the day with light pressure instead.
 
V-TAX said:
Yeah that sounds like a good idea. Will do. Have thought about pumping two times a day also, one intense with clamping and then one at night or later in the day with light pressure instead.
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If you can handle it the more the better. I know for me when I was going through my active gaining I was training up to 12 hours a day.
 
DLD said:
If you can handle it the more the better. I know for me when I was going through my active gaining I was training up to 12 hours a day.
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Then I`ll give it a shot soon. 12 hours is insane! Didn't you lose your ability to get erect pretty quickly? I lose my ability after a week or less if I have no breaks..
 
V-TAX said:
I`m a newbie and I`ve been thinking. Is it possible that If I take no days off, no matter how fatigued my penis will be and no matter that I wont be able to achieve erections at all, would this force growth in big amounts?

I mean, I hope this wouldn't destroy or kill my penis, I`ve never done this but have just thought about it conceptually.

So if I were to ignore my eventually fatigued penis and lost abillity to get an erection, and just keep going and going, do you think this would result in massive growth or just a destroyed penis?

BTW, I only do clamping and pumping. My goal is 2 inches more in girth and 1 in length. I wont do length work becasue I know it`ll come from the bathmate naturally.
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Pumping and clamping is a great start but you will be so amazed when you put a traction device like SizeGenetics or Sizedoctor in your routine! First sign for me was when I noticed new vein formation in my shaft! My erections and stamina are through the roof! Recently got the Length Master and I am happy!
 
djvillain2093 said:
Pumping and clamping is a great start but you will be so amazed when you put a traction device like SizeGenetics or Sizedoctor in your routine! First sign for me was when I noticed new vein formation in my shaft! My erections and stamina are through the roof! Recently got the Length Master and I am happy!
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Sounds cool and good but I dont know about that, I only want girth and my length will come naturaly with the pump as well.
 
V-TAX said:
Then I`ll give it a shot soon. 12 hours is insane! Didn't you lose your ability to get erect pretty quickly? I lose my ability after a week or less if I have no breaks..
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I have never had problems with fatigue and getting any direction as most men do. Maybe because I trained so hard from the beginning or maybe it’s another thing I have done but I do not experience fatigue any longer. My erection quality is bulletproof due to how strong my pelvic floor muscles are. I no longer have sex but I want to keep my sexual system in good health.
 
DLD said:
I have never had problems with fatigue and getting any direction as most men do. Maybe because I trained so hard from the beginning or maybe it’s another thing I have done but I do not experience fatigue any longer. My erection quality is bulletproof due to how strong my pelvic floor muscles are. I no longer have sex but I want to keep my sexual system in good health.
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Yeah that could be a big factor. Ì`ve started doing kegels too! I have completely forgotten to say that I have struggled with ED since 2016, and I`m only 24 now, I had my birthday recently. Anyway, I`m going to try to do my routines on my off days, but only 50% of what I do normally.
 
If you really look closely, you will see one MAJOR similarity with @DLD and myself..... a healthy mind, positive attitude, openness, love......

I believe THIS is our super strength!

Blessings... ??
 
DLD said:
You know what my thoughts are going to be LOL the more the better in my opinion. I got to where I got to because I trained every day for 12 hours. I never took a day off and I was always pushing intensity creating new exercises or tools or some other angle to increase my ability to gain.
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Your re the PE ?. It sounds a little bit crazy, but looking at your results, it's not completely nut at all
 
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TuffDong said:
If you really look closely, you will see one MAJOR similarity with @DLD and myself..... a healthy mind, positive attitude, openness, love......

I believe THIS is our super strength!

Blessings... ??
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Blessed indeed! Perhaps this will bring more people to the Lord!
 
On a more serious note, how sure are you all that, doing only a girth routine with the bathmate will bring length gains? And how much length gains can one make from using the bathmate for 1 year?

Any ideas?
 
huge-girth said:
On a more serious note, how sure are you all that, doing only a girth routine with the bathmate will bring length gains? And how much length gains can one make from using the bathmate for 1 year?

Any ideas?
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Well I`ve used the bathamte for many months now, and I havent seen any gains at all. Maybe after a year I will see gains.. I will update on my gains here!
 
huge-girth said:
What about girth gains? Have you seen any?
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None what so ever, except temporary gains from clamping and pumping,then I expand up to 1.78 inches in my intense sessions, which is impressive. My size is 7.28 and 5.5 in girth. So I`m hung and waay above average, but my goal is to gain 2 inches in girth and 1 in length. My goal is to achieve this only through pumping and clamping. I do wear cockrings now after pumping and clamping, it kees expansion alooot longer.
 
V-TAX said:
None what so ever, except temporary gains from clamping and pumping,then I expand up to 1.78 inches in my intense sessions, which is impressive. My size is 7.28 and 5.5 in girth. So I`m hung and waay above average, but my goal is to gain 2 inches in girth and 1 in length. My goal is to achieve this only through pumping and clamping. I do wear cockrings now after pumping and clamping, it kees expansion alooot longer.
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It's strange to know that you haven't seen any gains. Have you been pumping for up to 6 months? Are you doing manual girth exercises in between each pumping set?
 
huge-girth said:
It's strange to know that you haven't seen any gains. Have you been pumping for up to 6 months? Are you doing manual girth exercises in between each pumping set?
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Yeah I`ve been doing it over 6 months now. Yeah, its beyond me that I havent made any gains. My routine is as follows:

Clamping 20 min - then bathmate 20 min - then use cockrings for 20-30 min intervals with rest. I stop using rings after I feel my dick is exhausted and hurts. But now from advice from DLD, i do kegels every day! and they help! he says its the secret to gains and maintaining them!

I havent had this routine for 6 months+, this is a brand new routine ive used for a week or more. I used to do only pumping before a few months ago, when I started clamping.
 
V-TAX said:
Yeah I`ve been doing it over 6 months now. Yeah, its beyond me that I havent made any gains. My routine is as follows:

Clamping 20 min - then bathmate 20 min - then use cockrings for 20-30 min intervals with rest. I stop using rings after I feel my dick is exhausted and hurts.

I havent had this routine for 6 months+, this is a brand new routine ive used for a week or more. I used to do only pumping before a few months ago, when I started clamping.
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Here is how you are suppose to train your girth:

5 to 10mins pumping
5 mins SSJ

5 to 10mins pumping
5 mins SSJ

5 to 10mins pumping
5 mins SSJ

Increase pressure every 3mins while pumping. Always be at max pressure when pumping.
 
V-TAX said:
Well I`ve used the bathamte for many months now, and I havent seen any gains at all. Maybe after a year I will see gains.. I will update on my gains here!
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How are you using your pump? If you’ve gone this long without gaining there something wrong with the routine. Let me know what you’re doing and perhaps I can help you refine that so you start seeing gains right away.
 
DLD said:
How are you using your pump? If you’ve gone this long without gaining there something wrong with the routine. Let me know what you’re doing and perhaps I can help you refine that so you start seeing gains right away.
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From I started I`ve used the pump 20 min non stop with no break. But just last week I looked at the instructions at my bathmate booklet and it says that must take a few seconds rest every 5 min, which has hugely helped with expansion. Its many months since I started using clamping as well and am very experienced with it now. I used to pump and then clamp, but now I clamp and them pump, my expansion is even greater.

I truly want gains, and am using the routine mentioned above, and have used it for a week, and I feel it`s working, but will have to wait another week before I can say for 100% sure.
 
huge-girth said:
Follow the routine I gave you or listen to the one from DLD. A lot of people don't gain in PE because they fail to listen to advice from those that have gained.
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Yeah so I`ve heard! I`m currently following a veterans advice by the name of M9 on other discussion site, he has a known MONSTER GIRTH 101 post, and he said I should clamp then pump. Btw, Is it safe for me to share a photo of my member here? I don`t know if that`ll change anything but I have one after pumping and clamping when I`m at full expansion.
 
Really quick go over and check out SRT and look for the routine called the 5×5×3 have a look over and let me know what you think. This is the fastest way to pack on girth and most people are using this routine. Have a look and let me know if you have any questions.
 
DLD said:
Really quick go over and check out SRT and look for the routine called the 5×5×3 have a look over and let me know what you think. This is the fastest way to pack on girth and most people are using this routine. Have a look and let me know if you have any questions.
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Yeah I looked over it! I only wonder, Should I do it every day, every other day? I just turned 24 and am suffering from ED, so if I workout to much my penis wont work for a while. Or maybe two days on, 1 day of, or 3 days on, 1 day off.
 
ED at that age? I'd consider getting blood work done. But could be psychological. How's your weight and overall health?

Going at PE on a daily basis, depending on the routine, is fine. It's about listening to your body. After pumping and clamping, as in vigorous girth routines, your EQ can go down a bit. But as long as there's no strong pain (discomfort will happen due to growth process, this is a given), all days on is fine.

You could also think of alternating with length and girth, as in 1 day length, 1 day girth, then off day, repeat. Just stay consistent.
Best of health and gains to you @V-TAX !
 
DLD said:
Really quick go over and check out SRT and look for the routine called the 5×5×3 have a look over and let me know what you think. This is the fastest way to pack on girth and most people are using this routine. Have a look and let me know if you have any questions.
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I`ve read it and tried it two days ago, it was good but did not give me maxiumum expansion as clamping and pumping did. But will try again.

I have however decided to train every other day, except two days on every week. I put on a tight cockring after clamping and pumping for many hours, forcing an erection. I did at least 3 h. I decided today to do 4 h with the cockrings today, to reach priapism, every other day after my routine, until I see if it does give results. I am not scared, the day I tried 3 hours with forced erection with cockrings were very successful and went great.

So If you, DLD or anyone else is interested in hearing how this progresses in results in the coming days and beyond, I can let you know.
 
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arkailija said:
ED at that age? I'd consider getting blood work done. But could be psychological. How's your weight and overall health?

Going at PE on a daily basis, depending on the routine, is fine. It's about listening to your body. After pumping and clamping, as in vigorous girth routines, your EQ can go down a bit. But as long as there's no strong pain (discomfort will happen due to growth process, this is a given), all days on is fine.

You could also think of alternating with length and girth, as in 1 day length, 1 day girth, then off day, repeat. Just stay consistent.
Best of health and gains to you @V-TAX !
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I`m getting myself some Tesosterone treatment soon, I have low T, and have a pituitary tumor, fucking me up in all ways, including hormonally ofc. But its not lethal, but still, it fucks me the fuck up.
 
V-TAX said:
I`m getting myself some Tesosterone treatment soon, I have low T, and have a pituitary tumor, fucking me up in all ways, including hormonally ofc. But its not lethal, but still, it fucks me the fuck up.
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Maybe that tumor makes you to produce more prolactin and that kills Erections and libido, do blood test and ask your doctor for cabergoline, that should fix your problem.
 
V-TAX said:
I`ve read it and tried it two days ago, it was good but did not give me maxiumum expansion as clamping and pumping did. But will try again.

I have however decided to train every other day, except two days on every week. I put on a tight cockring after clamping and pumping for many hours, forcing an erection. I did at least 3 h. I decided today to do 4 h with the cockrings today, to reach priapism, every other day after my routine, until I see if it does give results. I am not scared, the day I tried 3 hours with forced erection with cockrings were very successful and went great.

So If you, DLD or anyone else is interested in hearing how this progresses in results in the coming days and beyond, I can let you know.
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Thanks for the awesome write up I really appreciate it. My advice is always going to be to over train because that’s what I did. I’m very interested in your progress so please post updates as they happen. Get really good starting measurements and let’s get this party jumping.
 
DLD said:
Thanks for the awesome write up I really appreciate it. My advice is always going to be to over train because that’s what I did. I’m very interested in your progress so please post updates as they happen. Get really good starting measurements and let’s get this party jumping.
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I will! Just to update you again on my starting stats, I`m 7.55 in length and 5.5 in girth. My goal is 2 inches more in girth, which is my only focus first. Then maybe later I want 0.5 or 1 inch in length.
 
I think that 2 inches and girth is way too much and would be pretty much unusable. I would shoot for something closer to 6 1/2 or 7 inches. In comparison you can look at Shane Diesel and see what 7 inches of girth looks like. The fastest possible way to pack on girth is SRT 5×5×3. This routine will bring up to an inch of temporary expansion upon your first session. I suggest that you purchase the Mityvac as this will be what you need to do the 5×5×3. Have a look over the routine which is an SRT and let me know what you think.
 
DLD said:
I think that 2 inches and girth is way too much and would be pretty much unusable. I would shoot for something closer to 6 1/2 or 7 inches. In comparison you can look at Shane Diesel and see what 7 inches of girth looks like. The fastest possible way to pack on girth is SRT 5×5×3. This routine will bring up to an inch of temporary expansion upon your first session. I suggest that you purchase the Mityvac as this will be what you need to do the 5×5×3. Have a look over the routine which is an SRT and let me know what you think.
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I can’t help myself and i’m also obsessed with girth so i’m shooting for 1 inch girth along with my length goals. That will put me at the 7” girth mark. I think the majority of women could take that and would love it.

I’ve read those dildo reviews on amazon and lots of women are raving on about those 8” x 7” dildo’s LOL.

Is it okay to grow a bigger head? When is the headpump coming out?
 
DLD said:
I think that 2 inches and girth is way too much and would be pretty much unusable. I would shoot for something closer to 6 1/2 or 7 inches. In comparison you can look at Shane Diesel and see what 7 inches of girth looks like. The fastest possible way to pack on girth is SRT 5×5×3. This routine will bring up to an inch of temporary expansion upon your first session. I suggest that you purchase the Mityvac as this will be what you need to do the 5×5×3. Have a look over the routine which is an SRT and let me know what you think.
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I`ve already penetrated my date with a fully pumped dick, which is 7.28 in girth at max. Which went fine after a minute. The routine I do makes my penis expand from 5.5 to 7.28, at most. So when maxed out I am thicker than shane. So from my natural size 5.5 to 7.28 would be 1.78 inches in expansion in one intense session.

Yes, I did try the SRT 5x5x3 routine last week, I would have to do it with a clamp though, because I can hardly sustain an erection longer than a few seconds.

So I hear what you say that grow to inches more, it`ll be too much, but I dont think so. Time will show :)
 
8x7"if they only knew how big is that, most guys Whit a 6.5 can be considered big,oh wonder why we are so desperate about hoes some of them are really really ignorant, lack for a better word ...lol
 
V-TAX said:
I`ve already penetrated my date with a fully pumped dick, which is 7.28 in girth at max. Which went fine after a minute. The routine I do makes my penis expand from 5.5 to 7.28, at most. So when maxed out I am thicker than shane. So from my natural size 5.5 to 7.28 would be 1.78 inches in expansion in one intense session.

Yes, I did try the SRT 5x5x3 routine last week, I would have to do it with a clamp though, because I can hardly sustain an erection longer than a few seconds.

So I hear what you say that grow to inches more, it`ll be too much, but I dont think so. Time will show :)
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That’s great to hear man. My natural girth is also 5.5 inches and i’d like to increase it to 7.5 inches, maybe 8 inches.

First i’m working on length and girth will come along with it.
 
Getbiglonger7 said:
8x7"if they only knew how big is that, most guys Whit a 6.5 can be considered big,oh wonder why we are so desperate about hoes some of them are really really ignorant, lack for a better word ...LOL
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Yea hoes don’t know shit. Most hoes are stupid as fuck. Really dumb and superficial so imma get my revenge soon. I’ll tear them pussies up. I’ll split those fucking sluts in half.
 
DutchAthletic92 said:
Yea hoes don’t know shit. Most hoes are stupid as fuck. Really dumb and superficial so imma get my revenge soon. I’ll tear them pussies up. I’ll split those fucking sluts in half.
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I think you need to change how you view women. It's not healthy, you shouldn't have harsh feeling's wanting revenge to get bigger.

This is simply feelings of inadequacy, insecure on your own part, and everyone has inadequacies or feelings of insecurity.

I've seen a few TV shows about men like that in the states who pretend to be someone else on the net to meet a woman in a location.

When they meet the woman gets slut shamed by a coward wearing a mask, all because he cannot deal with shit, and takes it out on all women because he cannot get a date.

Not saying you are this, but it's maybe a path towards it. I wish for men like that to realize the negative way of thinking, to look at themselves, the issue isn't outside but needs dealing from within.

All this about women wanting massive sizes is the minority, a fetish. Nothing wrong with it, just don't take that literally.

I wish MOS to have a section on changing men's unhealthy mindset towards women, and we should do more being entirely male here, and challenge views that seem unhealthy or going too far one way.

Put it this way. If you don't change, and do obtain the size goal (hope you do) you'll still project those feelings across onto how you see women, it'll just be something else.
 
@V-TAX What was the length of the pump and clamping routine you done in the past.

You may or may not know, that I made nice gains using clamping, and wrote a basic free guide.
 
REDZULU2003 said:
I think you need to change how you view women. It's not healthy, you shouldn't have harsh feeling's wanting revenge to get bigger.

This is simply feelings of inadequacy, insecure on your own part, and everyone has inadequacies or feelings of insecurity.

I've seen a few TV shows about men like that in the states who pretend to be someone else on the net to meet a woman in a location.

When they meet the woman gets slut shamed by a coward wearing a mask, all because he cannot deal with shit, and takes it out on all women because he cannot get a date.

Not saying you are this, but it's maybe a path towards it. I wish for men like that to realize the negative way of thinking, to look at themselves, the issue isn't outside but needs dealing from within.

All this about women wanting massive sizes is the minority, a fetish. Nothing wrong with it, just don't take that literally.

I wish MOS to have a section on changing men's unhealthy mindset towards women, and we should do more being entirely male here, and challenge views that seem unhealthy or going too far one way.

Put it this way. If you don't change, and do obtain the size goal (hope you do) you'll still project those feelings across onto how you see women, it'll just be something else.
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Yep that's a reality a negative outlook towards women is harmful n is a waste of time,I'm really focused on my size unfortunately time is a luxury, mentally n phisycally drained sometimes.Im going to have a measurement January 2020 looking for good news!! I don't invest that much time,but I have to gain at least an inch in length
 
V-TAX said:
I`ve already penetrated my date with a fully pumped dick, which is 7.28 in girth at max. Which went fine after a minute. The routine I do makes my penis expand from 5.5 to 7.28, at most. So when maxed out I am thicker than shane. So from my natural size 5.5 to 7.28 would be 1.78 inches in expansion in one intense session.

Yes, I did try the SRT 5x5x3 routine last week, I would have to do it with a clamp though, because I can hardly sustain an erection longer than a few seconds.

So I hear what you say that grow to inches more, it`ll be too much, but I dont think so. Time will show :)
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Do you have a good pelvic floor muscle routine?
 
DLD said:
Do you have a good pelvic floor muscle routine?
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You mean kegels? I`m trying to do them as much as I can every day. I saw a vid and a post from you saying they should be done as many times a day as possible. Or have you changed your mind and think I should have a routine that is a certain number of reps, sets and how long to hold each kegel?
 
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