Ok, so I've been using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] for a few days now and I think I've got all the pros and cons figured out.

First the bad. The price is absolutely the biggest problem I have with this device. It is very high quality but nonetheless it is pretty much all plastic. This thing should be priced at least $100 less than it is right now. $364 is way too steep but they know those of us that want it bad enough will pay for it. Kinda shitty business practice really. They sort of depend on people being a little desperate or irresponsible with their money.

Anyway, next gripe is the tension belt. While it is very comfortable and concealable it is not a very good method for producing tension. I'm sure someone else on here has already done the tests to see the actual grams of tension it produces but it feels about half as much as an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] or [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words].

Ok, the good. I mentioned earlier that it is very high quality. It is super simple to use and doesn't ever feel like it will break just by using it normally like some of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydromax[/words] products do. It takes a bit of tinkering and it did cause me some frustration at first but I figured it out pretty quick.

The effect on flaccid hang is amazing. And because it's vacuum-based it also gives some fullness as well. I have only used it a few days so I'm not sure how much of an effect it will have on erect length but I'm going to guess it's minimal. Newbies will benefit for sure though.

Now, the ultimate way to use this device is to pair it with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] or [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], colloquially referred to as the phallogenics or phallogenetics. This offers the most tension while also being vacuum-based so you can wear it for hours without taking it off. I tried posting a pic of me wearing it but it said my device does not have enough memory to complete operation. I'll work on that.

So there you have it. I would say this thing is a must buy if only for the price. That is up to the individual if it's worth buying or not. But it is by far the most comfortable and concealable [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with the potential for great tension when combined to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words].
 
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The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] reminds me of Trinidad James. When they saw that he wasn't about all gold everything they dropped him.
Why fuck around with anything other than a tried and true [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] smh.
 
templnite;652899 said:
The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] reminds me of Trinidad James. When they saw that he wasn't about all gold everything they dropped him.
Why fuck around with anything other than a tried and true [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] smh.


The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] has its own flaws, most notably the outdated noose & "comfort" strap system that requires a lot of unnecessary prep for stretching, which will leave you in frustration when you slip out of it even with a wrap.

The vacuum-type grip from the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], or even the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Tugger[/words] modification seems pretty ideal when it comes to replacing hands for gripping and stretching. I'd rather see the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] get a much needed update that implements this or improves upon the vacuum grip.

"Tried and true" would be stretching and jelqing manually. With devices, not so much.
 
The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]comfort system[/words] is the reason you get 2800 g's bruh.
Lots of people complain about "I have to take it off every half-our, it isn't comfy, its not unnoticeable,its hard" yada yada.
Ok then just put the PE down its not for you.:)
 
Phallogenetics combined with 30 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] session is the best thing in the world of PE. I cannot wait to buy my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words].
 
Phallosan is pure technology. It's not made in china. I am into plastic moulding so I know.

If you look at the cost of raw material of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] + manufacturing cost then it's peanuts.

It cost would be not more than 20 usd. This also too much I am saying. Their packaging is third grade just paper and their manual is of newspaper quality.

But when you see plastic moulding its an art of technology. The moulds are made in Germany , 20 times more cost then of china, the pump is unique three ball way. Rest all is normal.

It's patented so there is a cost. The silicone sleeves are the most comfortable. It has a little cost.

But no doubt it's over priced as its only in the market. I would rate it should not be more than 200 usd.
 
templnite;652904 said:
The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]comfort system[/words] is the reason you get 2800 g's bruh.
Lots of people complain about "I have to take it off every half-our, it isn't comfy, its not unnoticeable,its hard" yada yada.
Ok then just put the PE down its not for you.:)


I disagree.

Those complaints are valid and shouldn't be ignored. That feedback is how companies know that their customers are unhappy with their products and gives them a reason to change those products to make them more efficient.

Also telling people here not to PE when they have a legit gripe with a product that they paid for is not cool, brah. Might wanna take that attitude to Thunders.
 
What is so special about this product?Almost 400 dolars,that's a lot..i mean it's freackin plastic..the only thing i heard special about this product is that it's very comfortable.
 
ChilDsh;652926 said:
What is so special about this product?Almost 400 dolars,that's a lot..i mean it's freackin plastic..the only thing i heard special about this product is that it's very comfortable.

If we look at that way , [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] is just plastic and rubber. Weight of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] must be around 400 grams. Or may be 600 grams. Plastic cost in indian rupees ( one dollar = 64 rupees ) 75 to 250 rs per kg. This means Rs 200 x . 600 = 1200 + 1000 rs cost of other parts to the maximum. 2200 rs + 500 rs manufacturing cost. Which is 25 usd.

Same way of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].
 
See [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] and lot of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are being made in china. You give anything to china they make it in bulk so cost goes down. You can find [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] for 20 usd to 99 usd from china , from the same company from which original [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] has a tie up. Shenzen eciga technology co ltd. You contact them and buy in bulk like 1000 pcs and see what price they offer.
 
master_mind;652944 said:
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Yea i've seen a pump EXACTLY like the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]..same model..same everything..same materials..in some sex shop..it was literally the same...the only difference was this pump was a " no name " pump ..it's like the thing with good brands t-shirts...they make a 5 $ shirt and they put the Nike logo on the shirt and BANG the shirt is 20 $ now..bullshit.

Not gonna pay 400 $ for a piece of plastic that is keeping my penis stretched when i could find the same product or a very similar product with 150-200 $ or even cheaper.
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words],bathmate , [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] , they are all good..really good...the best on the market..but if you are low on money you can find much cheaper options if you know where to look for
 
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ChilDsh;652952 said:
Yea i've seen a pump EXACTLY like the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]..same model..same everything..same materials..in some sex shop..it was literally the same...the only difference was this pump was a " no name " pump ..it's like the thing with good brands t-shirts...they make a 5 $ shirt and they put the Nike logo on the shirt and BANG the shirt is 20 $ now..bullshit.

Not gonna pay 400 $ for a piece of plastic that is keeping my penis stretched when i could find the same product or a very similar product with 150-200 $ or even cheaper.

[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words],bathmate , [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] , they are all good..really good...the best on the market..but if you are low on money you can find much cheaper options if you know where to look for
till now you won't find anything like [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] in the market.
 
ChilDsh;652952 said:
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Not gonna pay 400 $ for a piece of plastic that is keeping my penis stretched when i could find the same product or a very similar product with 150-200 $ or even cheaper.

[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words],bathmate , [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] , they are all good..really good...the best on the market..but if you are low on money you can find much cheaper options if you know where to look for
Check lingam [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] similar to [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] it's for 150 usd.
 
And then you come home after a hard day at work and you find your dog chewing your 400$ [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].... rofl
 
ChilDsh;652959 said:
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i purchased [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] one year back or even more. Found lingam [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] 4 monts back.
 
huge-girth;652906 said:
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I've worked my way up to an hour in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]. I hang for 40 minutes then do stretches for the rest of the time. I take 2 or 3 short breaks throughout but I don't take the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] off.
 
pradox;652960 said:
Did you gave up on buying that size doctor's one?
i have purchased it and I have it with me. No that's the best for me as I am uncut. I needed a vacuum attachment. I tried all methods in an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] wrapping, sleeves, but all in vain. Because the skin irritates and when I use more pressure my penis comes out of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. And frenulum hurts very bad.

Then I attached my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] to my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] it worked but again it takes a lot of time to wear. And some times the vacuum fails. Also have to attach more rods so becomes pretty tough.

Then I thought about [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] but risk is it will pull more skin and I never wanted to have extra skin. Part 2
 
I needed a vacuum attachment. There are such modifications available but there is a problem. Time consuming. Second they use thick silicone sleeve . This will pull more skin and gets uncomfortable and feel itching on my penis. I tried thick silicone on [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], so I know. Modifications are modifications they are not the very ultimate.

I know [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is a very good way to gain length , the best way and fastest. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] also very good tool but again wrapping problem. I know for more stress work I will buy [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] later.
 
tb007;652994 said:
I've worked my way up to an hour in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]. I hang for 40 minutes then do stretches for the rest of the time. I take 2 or 3 short breaks throughout but I don't take the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] off.

This is an intense [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] session. How long are you able to wear your Phallogenetics and can you wear it at max tension?
 
So I needed an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with an in built vacuum modification. I had 3 options.
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words]. [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster pro[/words] and size doctor.
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] did not buy because I am uncut . I know [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] is for uncut and [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tlc[/words] for cut but my reasons. [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster pro[/words] again wear condom sleeve and all that time consuming. All this not in size doctor so I purchased.

DLD said no for size doctor for lighting did not approve it. I would have not discussed about size doctor here if you would have thought I am just doing bla bla.

Request DLD if he gives permission I can show the packing and its picture and more. But only if he gives permission.
 
huge-girth;653000 said:
This is an intense [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] session. How long are you able to wear your Phallogenetics and can you wear it at max tension?
i can wear [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] at max tension it's no problem. I have done it many times. But there is a flaw. The distance between the two rods of an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is less as compared to the medium and big bell of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. When you attached [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] the vertical line of axis of your penis moves upward in relation to the horizontal line of axis of the rods of an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Thus your penis glans will be up and the other part will be down. This might cause a bend of glans down ward. The big bells if put on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] will disturb the line of axis too much.
 
master_mind;653003 said:
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Have you tried to ask other Phallogenetics users if they are having the same problem? I think maybe it is because you are not doing it with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. When you wore the your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]/Phallosan combo at max tension how many hours are you able to wear it before taking it off?
 
huge-girth;653007 said:
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hello all [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] distance between the rods are the same. I was the first to combine [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] , then ykm made a vedio for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. We later combined with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and invented the name phallogenetics. Take your time to find the old threads. All [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are based on 8 mm or 9mm rod diameter rest other parts dimensions are nearly same.
 
Check the vaccum modification for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] made by monkey bar. It says for any [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] of the world only have to tell the rod diameter.
 
huge-girth;653007 said:
Have you tried to ask other Phallogenetics users if they are having the same problem? I think maybe it is because you are not doing it with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. When you wore the your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]/Phallosan combo at max tension how many hours are you able to wear it before taking it off?
hmm how to explain you the line of axis. When I get time in office I will draw and show you and will show pictures. For your knowledge and for the brother hood. Done a lot research on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I can tell you all nuts and bolts about it.
 
Not recommended to wear [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] at full tension more than 60 minutes. Or may be more depends on person to person. For you cannot escape water retention at full tension. Full tension also means [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] pointing down wards. I wear my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] in all clock positions. 1 to 12. i also give twist to my penis. For this I use a slippery medium at the base of an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]
 
I do agree with the fact that it's not recommended to wear the Phallogenetics at max tension for more than 1 hour due to water retention. Aimingforthetop named the combo Phallogenetics.
 
huge-girth;653000 said:
This is an intense [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] session. How long are you able to wear your Phallogenetics and can you wear it at max tension?
I wear for it hours and yes at max tension. Although I feel like my springs aren't as strong as they used to be. I need to upgrade them.
 
master_mind;653003 said:
i can wear [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] at max tension it's no problem. I have done it many times. But there is a flaw. The distance between the two rods of an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is less as compared to the medium and big bell of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. When you attached [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] the vertical line of axis of your penis moves upward in relation to the horizontal line of axis of the rods of an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Thus your penis glans will be up and the other part will be down. This might cause a bend of glans down ward. The big bells if put on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] will disturb the line of axis too much.
I honestly had no idea what the hell you were talking about at first but now I think I do. You just mean that the big bell size for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] throws off the angle when you strap it to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]. That may be true. I haven't tried it with the big bell yet. I only wear the big bell on days when I'm really full, like after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or girth session or sex. I mostly use the medium size and it is perfect for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] or [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words].
 
master_mind;653008 said:
hello all [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] distance between the rods are the same. I was the first to combine [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] , then ykm made a vedio for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. We later combined with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and invented the name phallogenetics. Take your time to find the old threads. All [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are based on 8 mm or 9mm rod diameter rest other parts dimensions are nearly same.

A precious mind is a terrible thing to waste. To think that we were going to remove you from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] is sacrilege.
 
templnite;653042 said:
A precious mind is a terrible thing to waste. To think that we were going to remove you from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] is sacrilege.
Lol you have to write anything lol.
 
tb007;653017 said:
I honestly had no idea what the hell you were talking about at first but now I think I do. You just mean that the big bell size for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] throws off the angle when you strap it to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]. That may be true. I haven't tried it with the big bell yet. I only wear the big bell on days when I'm really full, like after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or girth session or sex. I mostly use the medium size and it is perfect for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] or [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words].
I mean the bell is placed on top of the plastic part where you tie strap. Now the angle is displaced. Check [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] and [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tlc[/words] you will understand the line of axis.
 
tb007;653016 said:
I wear for it hours and yes at max tension. Although I feel like my springs aren't as strong as they used to be. I need to upgrade them.

This is highly motivating.
 
master_mind;653044 said:
I mean the bell is placed on top of the plastic part where you tie strap. Now the angle is displaced. Check [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] and [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tlc[/words] you will understand the line of axis.
Yeah... I get what you were trying to say. And I just tried the big bell on mine and it doesn't "disturb the line of axis" or make my dick go at a weird angle at all. It's completely straight. It's not 100% parallel with the rods, it's at a slight upward angle compared to the rods but it's barely noticable and what does that even matter? My dick is being stretched straight out just like it's supposed to be.

Your posts are very questionable, I gotta say. I feel like you don't always know what you're talking about and you're just saying whatever random thing you can think of to get your post count up. I'm not trying to start anything but I swear you and your buddy templnite post some of the weirdest stuff, and that's putting it mildly.
 
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tb007;653016 said:
I wear for it hours and yes at max tension. Although I feel like my springs aren't as strong as they used to be. I need to upgrade them.

That is awesome that you are getting so many hours logged! I guess all the use is causing some maintenance needs:)
 
doublelongdaddy;653185 said:
That is awesome that you are getting so many hours logged! I guess all the use is causing some maintenance needs:)
I figured out how to change the springs. Now I just need to find ones that have the right stiffness to them. I'm gonna try walmart and Lowes first. [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]Jes[/words] sells replacement springs but they're criminally overpriced. $20 +shipping for 2 springs. Besides I want to go a little stronger than the ones they have. If anyone has any tips or suggestions on what to look for I'd appreciate it.
 
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tb007;653081 said:
Yeah... I get what you were trying to say. And I just tried the big bell on mine and it doesn't "disturb the line of axis" or make my dick go at a weird angle at all. It's completely straight. It's not 100% parallel with the rods, it's at a slight upward angle compared to the rods but it's barely noticable and what does that even matter? My dick is being stretched straight out just like it's supposed to be.

Your posts are very questionable, I gotta say. I feel like you don't always know what you're talking about and you're just saying whatever random thing you can think of to get your post count up. I'm not trying to start anything but I swear you and your buddy templnite post some of the weirdest stuff, and that's putting it mildly.
Well its your mind to think anyhow i cant stop you from writing and think in a humble manner or wierd manner. More the questions better the results.

But the point is you agree the angle is displaced towards the up. That was my only point. We discuss here take it or leave it. Well in [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words], vacuum modifcation of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], they have not used the same plastic part on which you tie your strap . They have used other part.

For the better of brotherhood. Your posts like i swear you and ...... doesnt trouble me , in fact i think how immature to write like this. I never do all this stuff. Whatever i found the picture for you to see how the line of axis is perfect and the bell perfectly fall in between the rods of the exender. I am uncut and i used to get a lot of water retention with my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] attached to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] as the angle puts too much pressure on the frenulum . This is the point.
 
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Psalm 118:22
The stone the builders refused has become the cornerstone.

Mastermind you have too much brain activity for us to keep up please dial it down or you're banned.
 
templnite;653260 said:
Psalm 118:22
The stone the builders refused has become the cornerstone.

Mastermind you have too much brain activity for us to keep up please dial it down or you're banned.
Lol why dont you ban me of my life . looool Thats huge work to ban me loool .
 
templnite;653260 said:
Psalm 118:22
The stone the builders refused has become the cornerstone.


I was the stone Thunders rejected that became the corner stone of the Brotherhood:)
 
doublelongdaddy;653337 said:
I was the stone Thunders rejected that became the corner stone of the Brotherhood:)
i am very happy that it happened to you. I am so excited to hear that.

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Otherwise [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] would have not been there.
 
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