More than just PE?

[bigjim7]

I've noticed a few traits in DLD that are similar to myself such as I can be quite obsessive he is quite philosphical and has an interest in string theory to name but three. This got me thinking about the type of people that were in to Penis Enlargement especially on this forum. We are all looking for answers not just about Penis Enlargement maybe some of the answers to life the universe and everything can be found here. I have found some of the posts here to be very insightful especially from DLD. Maybe a new set of principles could be drawn up. For example the aim of first aid is to save life and prevent the casualties condition from worsening without becoming a casualty yourself this is taught first so we dont lose sight of the objective. When people are asked what they would want more than anything they often say to win the lottery because they perceive that money will make them happy. What they really want is to be happy, perhaps the same is true of Penis Enlargement but will a bigger dick bring happiness? This is why I suggest a frame work of ideals and principles be forged like the very techniques that we do every day to gain girth and length so that we keep the real goal of living a fruitful and happy life. I didnt expect to find a lot of things here that I did, may be we can find a lot more answers here than conventional wisdom cant give us. Anyway just wandered if anyone else had thought much about the wisdom that is on this forum and how it can help us as maybe getting a bigger dick is only treating the symptoms and we need to look deeper for the route cause. Have people that have reached there goals found it lives up to expectations? Would be particularly interested to here from DLD on this one although I suspect there is nothing new here that he hasnt already thought or discussed before.

 

[DLD]

na I'm not so worried about height, I will always look like a kid, but to be honest the size of my hands dude! I seriously g-fucked in this department, in some of my classes, a majority of the girls hands are mysize, some even bigger. We all know how important that shit is for girls, but to be truthful, It really doesn't bothr me that much, I would be fearfull to have a kid and know his hands are gonna be smaller than mine, if thats the case.... I probably shouldn't have kids. To bad theirs not a way to make them bigger, ya heard! To be honest, I know about growth hormones, by that time, its science. It's just to bad for me!

 

[bigjim7]

Great minds think alike I am working on my own theory that at death the strings of your soul detatch from the membrane of this dimension and become free floating like gravitons so we then live in the spirit world where we can move freely throughout any dimension we choose however while are strings are still attatched to this dimension we can't communicate with other dimensions. But scientist have theorised using the graviton this might one day be possible. I say that it is already possible and proof of this are Psychics although there are a lot of bogus ones. Also halucinagenic drugs may alter the state of our strings as many people in ancient tribes use these to go in to the spiritual world to ask questions (it is rumoured that Bill Gates did this to solve a problem with windows) and come back with the solutions. May be some one could take a trip in to the spirit world to gain some more info on Penis Enlargement.

 

[8InchMIKE]

Hey this is great news right here... I didn't have a clue that we had here people interested in the same wierd shit i'm into... Cosmology, space and universe, dark matter, ion drive engines, 11 dimensions, string theorie, theorie of everything, brane universes, hyperspace and paralel universes etc etc etc Man ohhh man i strive on this type of science... It really makes my day and are all perfect for my curious nature...

To think i'm not alone in this and that i'm no wierdo like some people make me feel when i start rambling about black holes, gravitational pulls and exoplanets...etc.......

Cool, now these are topics we should start talking about in the deep thoughts section? I'd really like to make people undestand that although we ( earth ) have many earthly problems of our own, in the long run we will have to escape from this planet into a new one. Most people have heard of The Big Bang and all they know about it besides the name is that it was some kind of huge explosion that gave birth to the Universe and not much else.
There really is much more to it than just that...........

NOW i understand the "insane in the memBRANE" line.... lol

Peace

Mike

 

[bigjim7]

it seems that I am not alone, always surprises me though that the places that these topics of conversation pop up are the least likely. But what is about our mindsets that makes us get in to Penis Enlargement?

 

[scott20]

hi all, i thought id post on this not posted for ages, have been lurking for about 2years (have not done much pe too inconsistent have gain 0.5inch in both length and girth [now 7.5nbpel 8.1bpel by 5.5 girth mid shaft]) anyway i too am interested in very different topics than most, as 8incHydromaxike put it most people just think your a wierdo or a geek when u mention things like FTL. So for me too its a very nice surprise to find like minded people here, and bigjim7 its true it is always in the most unlikely of place u meet like minded people. but i think we're here for more than just pe, i think deep down we are all on a quest for greater knowledge and understanding, but making your dick bigger by knowledge you've obtained is a massive bonus.

for me i read this forum almost daily not just for the pe side but for everything, gaining knowledge even if its not of great use at that moment, is at the very core of what i believe and by reading this forum iam bettering myself, by gaining knowledge.

 

[8InchMIKE]

I have a good answer to that mate...
We're just trying to "voyage" to new frontiers and we like to go against the established thought and make new breakthrough findings just like in human space exploration. We Humans have naturaly enquisiting minds so we always try to get that step ahead.

or...

we just want a bigger wang... lol

 

[8InchMIKE]

Man this really is cool to have like minded people on here. I think i'll start a thread somewhere to find more like us so we can discuss quantum mechanics and it's link to general theory of relativity and stuff like that...These days i'm trying to figure out ( damn this was not humble of me to say but what the hey... ) the conversion of hydrogen molecules into heavier elements in a vacuum. Man you wouldn't believe the amount of energy released by this.

As of late i'm getting myself interested in the whole "is the universe finite or not" deal. As in my opinion i think that space time exists in pockets ( branes ) and it just "disconects" from the physical universe outside of a membrane in hyperspace. I also think "space" is infinite while the Universe is finite. It's a matter of available matter and energy. Matter, as of now, is still expanded through space and some may say that galaxies super clusters gravity pull will lead the universe into the "big crunsh" if it outstrenghts the dark matter push. So as of now we are expanding and matter is filling the emptyness BUT the space was there already, with ZERO atoms, zero time.

I'd really like to discuss these matters with all who are interested.

Ps. I will leave a question right now for you to think about.

Do you think neutrinos have mass ? If so how can they travel at close to C ( speed of light) without gaining huge mass like Einstein's theory of relativity predicts ???

Peace

Mike

 

[scott20]

roflmao i agree with both of them 8incHydromaxike

I do agree thou that we should start some great threads in the deep thoughts section about topics we are all interested.

 

[scott20]

I have a good answer to that mate...
We're just trying to "voyage" to new frontiers and we like to go against the established thought and make new breakthrough findings just like in human space exploration. We Humans have naturaly enquisiting minds so we always try to get that step ahead.

or...

we just want a bigger wang... lol

sorry i didnt quote on my last post it looked abit out of place.

 

[bigjim7]

This is all high powered stuff wish I had the IQ to be able to do all the maths that goes with it. A lot of the universe can't be comprehended with the human mind it would be like a car trying to 100mph in first gear it would just blow up but we have computers these days to do the number crunching. You have to use your intuition or what some people call the heart mind to understand and comprehend the full workings of the cosmos. For example if you tried to catch a ball by saying to yourself that ball is travelling at 20 m/s and it is 40metres away so if I count to two and calculate the trajectory then close my hands just like a robot would you would never catch it. Instead we get a feel for it as it flows though the air we dont think we feel. This is what we have to do to really understand although science will go some way to predicting and calculating it will never be as effective as your own built in computer.

 

[DLD]

I have quite a bit to add, when I get home tonight I will contribute to this.

 

[DLD]

Polynomial Expression, Perfect?

We must also recognize the limitation of mathematics when approaching the divine. What is infinity? We have a feeling that there should be a universal truth and yet we can't describe it, mathematically or philosophically, quite simply, it is in the realm of impossibilities, some call this faith.

Mathematics is in no way truths, numbers are never perfectly correct. Kurt Godel, a life long student of mathematics and physics, was most famous as a logician. (I see him as a complete philosopher.) His most notable work, Incompleteness Theorem, explain these incredibly complex truths and untruths in numbers. It would take a very long time to explain Incompleteness Theorem, if interested by a very THICK BOOK. To try to put it into a couple of lines, Incompleteness Theorem(s) proves that any consistent formal theory that proves basic aritHydromaxetical truths, it becomes possible to establish an aritHydromaxetical statement that is true and even though this sounds impossible, it is unprovable in the theory. Meaning, any theory capable of expressing prefatory aritHydromaxetic can't be both consistent and complete. This puts a beautiful face on numbers as it shows the vulnerability of mathematics itself. Why do I see this as beauty? Only with imperfection does the mind grow.

The reason I site Godel is that Penis Enlargement also relies so heavily on proven, unproven mathematics. I guess you could say we are all a proverbial mathematician on a quest to express the perfect number. The fallacy here is that numbers are never perfect. I am basically asking you to accept that 2+2=4.001...hard to swallow but true. Our obsession with numbers is quite akin to the great mathematicians of our day. As Penis Enlargement'ers, we need to embrace imperfection as perfection. We need to see our penis as a beautiful, imperfect perfection, not a numerical, inaccurate measurement.

So what do numbers have to do with String Theory? Everything and nothing.
We see all but then we see nothing. It's real then it's fake. String theory, so primitive in it's equation, so complex in it's image while at the same time complex in it's equation but primitive in it's image. The only mathematical expression that express's every mathematical equation while at the same time expressing none exists only through contemplation, in our mind where we are free to interpret without proof.

Strings, loops and lines, we can see them with such understanding while not understanding them at all. Strings when described are essentially "1, 0 and, ( in shape and they occupy all of space and time. A place where there could be 11 dimensions, moreover, an alternate universe(s). When understood it is so complex that if you explained it some one, they would say your a genius while at the same time insane. But, as most eloquently summarized, String Theory are the Chords of life plucked to create the music of life.

For most mathematicians, scientists, physicists, theologians or any other extension of the such, exists a meta-physical belief. A belief that relies on unproven data, explaining the unexplainable. Godel and Einstein were very close. They shared a friendship in almost complete, academic, disagreement. This did not stop them from working on one of my favorite theories, one where time does not exist. In fact our past, present and future are happening in the present, according to this theory. If true, space and time may not exist at all. Time, space what is it really? An unproven set of numbers? A present eternity? A matrix? So much to comprehend while at the same time so easy to understand. What I mean is "the Theory of Everything" may be as simple ABC-123, six symbols so easy to understand but our own complex, mathematical mind may be in the way.

Believe it or not numbers have never made sense to me, I never got math until I read my first book on Geometry. But when I realized I could put a shape, a symbol a letter to numbers my mind opened to unbelievable levels. Everything I could not understand prior to this became crystal cleare. I finally joined the ranks of those on a quest to completely understand life. But when I finally got here I realized I may not want to know. Such struggles one has with God and Science!

My mind becomes confused when looking at numbers, while at the same time I see such beauty & potential. I wrote something that always remains at the forefront in my quest for understanding.
.....There is only Black and White, the colors are there to confuse us. We have searched so hard to find who God is....when all along God was us. We all came from a single living organism. We are one even though we are separate. God is you, God is me, the original creator.


Polynomial Expression? How about 1÷oo=oo÷1 (oo=infinity)

 

[goinfor11x7]

I like the concept that past present and future ALL exist and ONLY exist in the now--and that past and future are fictions created by the limited human mind. In some "primitive" languages there is no future or past tense. Are the people who speak these languages really that "primitive?" I think not.

For me the "primitives" are those who refuse to reach out beyond their rational minds for answers.

I like to imagine that when I die, my spirit will escape my human shell and join this "present" rush of energy released at the big boom. What a journey that would be!!!!!

 

[DLD]

Are the people who speak these languages really that "primitive?" I think not.

Perhaps, but to twist your mind a bit, what if the reason we speak this language, a language that encapsulates all of science, is our primality?

I would LOVE to comment on this line of thought, just temp me....I'll bore (or intrigue) you for days.

 

[goinfor11x7]

Hmmmmm, Mike!! Let me think about that!!!

 

[goinfor11x7]

Perhaps, but to twist your mind a bit, what if the reason we speak this language, a language that encapsulates all of science, is our primality?

I would LOVE to comment on this line of thought, just temp me....I'll bore (or intrigue) you for days.

Tempt! Tempt!! He, he! Tempt! Tempt! Be my guest!!!

 

[DLD]

Tempt! Tempt!! He, he! Tempt! Tempt! Be my guest!!!

Primality is so complex that we forget it's so simple. The reminder that we are so primal is our basic, inquisitive nature. It is our very need to apply a number to everything in life, essentially measure, document and place into perfect sets. That is what causes us to become disillusioned with what truly is reality. Our only grasp of time is the clock. It is our very need to classify and prove that creates this thing called time. So if time does not exist, do we? Again, this is subjective, but if time does not exist the only reality is the now...this very point of time is the only consciousness that feeds our actuality. Why is it impossible for mathematics to be perfectly correct? Why is it impossible to sequence every clock in the world? Why did Grodel find that 2+2=2.00001, simple, it all took place now, in this very moment, in our conscious brain, which falls behind as this "thing" time goes by. If this be true our very future affects our past, while our present affects our past. Very hard to comprehend as we see only on 4 dimensions (3+1). Our existence we travel through is endless, and is built on our total experiences, occurring all at once. A singularity too difficult to understand as realizing it is the ultimate uncertainty. Each of us are part of the same body, the same mind, and we all contribute to a beautiful thing we call time. As living things, we not only share space and time in this single moment but we also share everything that has ever happened past, present and future in this single moment. We can be, do, experience or encounter anything, as we control our world, our moment our destiny.

 

[goinfor11x7]

Let's see if I can put this in my own terms so that I can fully appreciate it!!!



Yes, yes, yes!!! This makes perfect sense to me.

And when we are in sync with this Great Mind, i.e. God, there is no past and there is no future!! No space!! No time!!--kind of like when I really get into my P.E. workout!!! Kind of like a child who only understands the now!! After all, the small children are closest to the Great Mind!! There is only the present--and when I am in the moment, in the now, the feeling is one of bliss--serenity beyond measure. Yes, yes, "measure."

The size of my dick no longer matters. He, he!!

Thank you, dear guru!!

Thank you.


:rocker:


:allhail:

 

[bigjim7]

All this takes a lot of getting your head round as our physical minds are only a tool for navigating this simple world we live in, which is why analagies are always useful in understanding far out concepts. Religion can offer some answers although you have to look deeper than what is offered by the big three (Christianity, Islam and Judaism). There are perennial truths which run through the true meaning of all religion that some people believe comes from ancient Egypt. The dying and resurecting god comes from the Horus and Osirus belief of the ancient Egyptians and was later used by Christianity in the story of Jesus. It represents the journey of our soul when the horus ( our animal side) dies and our true higher selves the Osiris god is reborn and we become at one with God again. This is also symbolised by St.George slaying the dragon and in various other ways throughout various religions and customs. This battle has been raging since Eve (the feminine side that exists in all men and women) took the apple from the tree of knowledge and gave it to Adam in the garden of Eden. From that point on we became self aware and the battle with our animal instincts and our higher self has waged on. Through karma we learn the correct path that leads us back to god.
Therefore since the body always follows the mind it is maybe no coincidence that a Penis Enlargement practitioner with a flexible and open mind makes the most gains. Maybe Penis Enlargement could become the next great religion.

 

[DLD]

Let's see if I can put this in my own terms so that I can fully appreciate it!!!



Yes, yes, yes!!! This makes perfect sense to me.

And when we are in sync with this Great Mind, i.e. God, there is no past and there is no future!! No space!! No time!!--kind of like when I really get into my P.E. workout!!! Kind of like a child who only understands the now!! After all, the small children are closest to the Great Mind!! There is only the present--and when I am in the moment, in the now, the feeling is one of bliss--serenity beyond measure. Yes, yes, "measure."

The size of my dick no longer matters. He, he!!

Thank you, dear guru!!

Thank you.


:rocker:


:allhail:

You got it and in getting it you will live your life to the fullest!

 

[DLD]

All this takes a lot of getting your head round as our physical minds are only a tool for navigating this simple world we live in, which is why analagies are always useful in understanding far out concepts. Religion can offer some answers although you have to look deeper than what is offered by the big three (Christianity, Islam and Judaism). There are perennial truths which run through the true meaning of all religion that some people believe comes from ancient Egypt. The dying and resurecting god comes from the Horus and Osirus belief of the ancient Egyptians and was later used by Christianity in the story of Jesus. It represents the journey of our soul when the horus ( our animal side) dies and our true higher selves the Osiris god is reborn and we become at one with God again. This is also symbolised by St.George slaying the dragon and in various other ways throughout various religions and customs. This battle has been raging since Eve (the feminine side that exists in all men and women) took the apple from the tree of knowledge and gave it to Adam in the garden of Eden. From that point on we became self aware and the battle with our animal instincts and our higher self has waged on. Through karma we learn the correct path that leads us back to god.
Therefore since the body always follows the mind it is maybe no coincidence that a Penis Enlargement practitioner with a flexible and open mind makes the most gains. Maybe Penis Enlargement could become the next great religion.

To see things as different and similar at the same time is to see how contradictories can actually be in agreement; a significant step towards an enlightened perspective.

unknown

 

[hoffy200]

This is all weird because lately I've been on some kind of quest, maybe soul searching, I've been trying to acquire all kinds of information about life, history, theories, etc. My views of this world have compeletly changed in about the last week or two. I've been watching video clips of David Icke, michael tsarion, and some others about life and how things really are. Many people find these guys to be crazy and con artists or whatever but actually everything they say makes perfect sense.

There is only the present--and when I am in the moment, in the now, the feeling is one of bliss--serenity beyond measure. Yes, yes, "measure."

I find that when I drive in my car or am outside and look around and see all the trees or stars(at night) and I get a feeling of bliss or harmony too, like I'm one with nature or something. I try and examine and see everything for what it is, things I never take time to look at and realize because I'm busy thinking about things like work or college or my gf..


I think the reason I Penis Enlargement is similar to why I workout and eat healthy, try and always sound cool and am scared of ridicule. I constantly ponder and worry about how I'm going to make a living (I'm only 21 right now and have NO idea what I want to do for a living). It's because I have control over those things for the most part but I used to feel like these were the only things I have control over. I'm starting to believe that I have control over alot more than that and it has to do with my subconscience and the vibrations I give off. DLD was right when he talks about the power of the mind and how important thought is to gains etc. all of it stems from my EGO and security. I live in fear even though I'm in no immediate danger.

 

[bigjim7]

Originally posted by Hoffy200
This is all weird because lately I've been on some kind of quest, maybe soul searching, I've been trying to acquire all kinds of information about life, history, theories, etc. My views of this world have compeletly changed in about the last week or two. I've been watching video clips of David Icke, michael tsarion, and some others about life and how things really are. Many people find these guys to be crazy and con artists or whatever but actually everything they say makes perfect sense.

There is only the present--and when I am in the moment, in the now, the feeling is one of bliss--serenity beyond measure. Yes, yes, "measure."

I find that when I drive in my car or am outside and look around and see all the trees or stars(at night) and I get a feeling of bliss or harmony too, like I'm one with nature or something. I try and examine and see everything for what it is, things I never take time to look at and realize because I'm busy thinking about things like work or college or my gf..


I think the reason I Penis Enlargement is similar to why I workout and eat healthy, try and always sound cool and am scared of ridicule. I constantly ponder and worry about how I'm going to make a living (I'm only 21 right now and have NO idea what I want to do for a living). It's because I have control over those things for the most part but I used to feel like these were the only things I have control over. I'm starting to believe that I have control over alot more than that and it has to do with my subconscience and the vibrations I give off. DLD was right when he talks about the power of the mind and how important thought is to gains etc. all of it stems from my EGO and security. I live in fear even though I'm in no immediate danger.

Ridicule is something we are all scared of to some point. However the people most likely to ridicule us are the ones trying to avoid ridicule themselves so they attack others to distract others from there own securities. This creates a whole enviroment of fear which imprisons us in to behaving in a way that you think others should perceive you. At least you realise this so you are in a better position than the majority who walk around like zombies terrified of ridicule so behave in a way best to avoid it. We all have this insecurity to varying degrees but like any other problem the first step to being free of it is admitting it. Once you realise that the only person that can judge you is you it can be very liberating, but nobody likes to be different. Which is why I like this forum as I suspect we are a lot of people who feel they are different or don't fit in. In reality we are probably not that much different to anybody else apart from the fact we recognise and admit to our insecurites. Take a leaf out of DLD's book he stands up and openly admits who he is, what he has done on many subjects that could be perceived by many as inviting ridicule.
On the subject of your future follow your heart to truly be happy you need a job or vocation where you get home each night feeling as though you have worked hard and satified. Always follow your dreams and don't let jealous, bitter people who blew there chance hold you back if they try and ricicule you for your aspirations no matter how great they are. You might want to try meditation, when we learn to quieten our minds we hear and see things that before were hidden and a way will open up for you. I hope at least some of what I have said has been useful good luck in whatever you do.

 

[DLD]

Originally posted by Hoffy200
This is all weird because lately I've been on some kind of quest, maybe soul searching, I've been trying to acquire all kinds of information about life, history, theories, etc. My views of this world have compeletly changed in about the last week or two. I've been watching video clips of David Icke, michael tsarion, and some others about life and how things really are. Many people find these guys to be crazy and con artists or whatever but actually everything they say makes perfect sense.


Ridicule is something we are all scared of to some point. However the people most likely to ridicule us are the ones trying to avoid ridicule themselves so they attack others to distract others from there own securities. This creates a whole enviroment of fear which imprisons us in to behaving in a way that you think others should perceive you. At least you realise this so you are in a better position than the majority who walk around like zombies terrified of ridicule so behave in a way best to avoid it. We all have this insecurity to varying degrees but like any other problem the first step to being free of it is admitting it. Once you realise that the only person that can judge you is you it can be very liberating, but nobody likes to be different. Which is why I like this forum as I suspect we are a lot of people who feel they are different or don't fit in. In reality we are probably not that much different to anybody else apart from the fact we recognise and admit to our insecurites. Take a leaf out of DLD's book he stands up and openly admits who he is, what he has done on many subjects that could be perceived by many as inviting ridicule.
On the subject of your future follow your heart to truly be happy you need a job or vocation where you get home each night feeling as though you have worked hard and satified. Always follow your dreams and don't let jealous, bitter people who blew there chance hold you back if they try and ricicule you for your aspirations no matter how great they are. You might want to try meditation, when we learn to quieten our minds we hear and see things that before were hidden and a way will open up for you. I hope at least some of what I have said has been useful good luck in whatever you do.

bigjim7 , Very good insight! When we are an open book it becomes difficult to be ridiculed.

Some may know that I am going back to school in hopes of getting my doctorate. A very long process but I feel it vital to who I am and what I do. This commitment requires a great deal of sacrifice but I know that many men have sacrificed themselves in order to bring knowledge to me.

Albert Einstein said, "A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving" This gives us a sense of purpose, a selfless understanding to what we may accomplish in life. I sometimes become scared to post my thoughts as I fear that they will be exploited, stolen, perverted, etc. But this is a extremely selfish disposition. When I am open I benefit, when others are open I also benefit and this is the great institution we call education.

My major will be in physics but a requisite of this major is mathematics and more importantly (as I will describe later) philosophy. In my opinion another requisite should be theology but sadly this is not important to the degree. To quote Dr. Einstein again, "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." This says it all and I think it brings much validity to bigjim7 early post:

All this takes a lot of getting your head round as our physical minds are only a tool for navigating this simple world we live in, which is why analagies are always useful in understanding far out concepts. Religion can offer some answers although you have to look deeper than what is offered by the big three (Christianity, Islam and Judaism). There are perennial truths which run through the true meaning of all religion that some people believe comes from ancient Egypt. The dying and resurecting god comes from the Horus and Osirus belief of the ancient Egyptians and was later used by Christianity in the story of Jesus. It represents the journey of our soul when the horus ( our animal side) dies and our true higher selves the Osiris god is reborn and we become at one with God again. This is also symbolised by St.George slaying the dragon and in various other ways throughout various religions and customs. This battle has been raging since Eve (the feminine side that exists in all men and women) took the apple from the tree of knowledge and gave it to Adam in the garden of Eden. From that point on we became self aware and the battle with our animal instincts and our higher self has waged on. Through karma we learn the correct path that leads us back to god.
Therefore since the body always follows the mind it is maybe no coincidence that a Penis Enlargement practitioner with a flexible and open mind makes the most gains. Maybe Penis Enlargement could become the next great religion.

Since my time in the metaphysical world we call Penis Enlargement I have learned so much about myself, science, physics, religion, mathematics and philosophy. A certain encapsulation of all of these studies puts a face on our art, penis enlargement. But to go deeper, this encapsulation belongs to everything in life. Knowledge has always been congruent with proof and proof congruent with all of the above. Some may say religion and philosophy have nothing to do with proof but they truly do.

We as a all inquisitive species search for definitive answers to questions that have long plagued mankind. When we approach an infinite impossibility we still need to categorize, hypothesize, create theory, essentially we need to create an expression that describes this infinity. This brings and unsettling feeling to those who yearn to understand the meaning of life. I can sympathize with this hence my choice of education.

The reason philosophy plays such a vital roll in proof is it helps us put into words expressions we cannot put on paper. The Theory of Relativity relied heavily on the forth dimension, a dimension that is without true mathematical truth but nonetheless it has philosophical truth. It is needed to bridge the gap of incompleteness. Godel also saw this need to incorporate incompleteness as seen in his lifetimes, greatest achievement, Incompleteness Theorem. With this theorem axioms, the set of all true propositions of mathematics (being a vacuous supposition) By consistent, this means that the axioms, together with the rules of inference, must not allow the deduction of a contradiction, such as 1 = 2. (Math is doomed if we can’t satisfy this condition.) See my point? The need for philosophy to satisfy meta-mathematics.

We ponder the outskirts of our universe, we have relied on religion as a unsatisfactory description of this space. In many religions in is called heaven (as it is in astronomy). Religion is purely based on faith but even though faith has no basis in truth, philosophically it does to millions of religious practitioners. In so many ways religion contradicts itself and in the face of this contradiction religious beliefs are forged. This is what happens with all life, when we can't make a definitive solution we rely on faith, a purely human function. Thinking on the computer we use everyday, a machine that can solve many of our human problems will always lack certitude.

The beginning of time, that first inkling of life that divided and divided brings us to this very moment. You, me, plants, animals, every living thing is part of us because we all are siblings of that first spark of life. Do we know this for sure? Of course not but until that time, a time where mathematics can write an equation that proves our existence we must rely on denomination.

 

[goinfor11x7]

BigJim,

Your conclusion about coming to Penis Enlargement with an open mind and with no biases may well explain my initial gains, which were quite dramatic. I had no doubts in my mind regarding potential penile growth. I approached P.E. in a totally unbiased, (pro or con) way. My mind was completely open and ready to receive whatever physical accomplishments I had set out to achieve.

Unfortunately, as I continued to gain, I ran into many negative voices and got caught up in this negativity. It was at that time that I lost half my gains!!! Interesting coincidence!!!

 

[goinfor11x7]

Mike,

Many great thinkers have discussed what it means to understand this contradiction you talk about and to live a life filled with contradiction and paradox to its fullest. It is not an easy path to follow. I think most people shun it. It means sometimes living on the edge of "insanity," as it's usually defined.

I just finished reading "A Beautiful Mind," the biography of John Nash Jr. Maybe it was just the passage of time that brought Nash out of his psychosis, (paranoid schizophrenia), but I think it was also his acceptance of his debilitating mind/emotional schism, and even the creation of a safe haven and a "quiet time" at Princeton (by some loving colleagues), where he could "entertain" his delusions . Once he began to understand his irrational side (delusionary thinking), he slowly, ever so slowly began to improve and to return to a functional life.

 

[goinfor11x7]

Mike,

Good luck with your Ph.D. program. I know you will succeed!!! Any man who has created what you have created in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], will find a Ph.D. an easy matter to undertake.

 

[bigjim7]

DLD

Good luck with the doctorate it is something that I wish to do but I am going to have to wait until my kids are grown up and left home as they are still young (2, 4, 6yrs) so they require my attention at the moment. I hope one day I will be watching a science programme on tv and it will be about how Dr. Mike Salvini has made some revolutionary leap forward in our understanding of the universe. With your background in Penis Enlargement it would really highlight the paradox that is in all of us, why we can't be labelled as just one thing. I think your unique perspective of life we enable you to see things that others who have followed a more conventional path can not.

 

[8InchMIKE]

Yeah man good luck with it all and please just enjoy the heck out of it cause it will, for sure, be a lifetime experience for you.

Also i have something to gain with this you are doing, i can finally talk to someone such as yourself about all the hugeness of the cosmos in all of it's complexity.

Please keep both feet on the ground even though your mind will be travelling the stars.

Peace

Mike

 

[DLD]

Mike,

Many great thinkers have discussed what it means to understand this contradiction you talk about and to live a life filled with contradiction and paradox to its fullest. It is not an easy path to follow. I think most people shun it. It means sometimes living on the edge of "insanity," as it's usually defined.

I just finished reading "A Beautiful Mind," the biography of John Nash Jr. Maybe it was just the passage of time that brought Nash out of his psychosis, (paranoid schizophrenia), but I think it was also his acceptance of his debilitating mind/emotional schism, and even the creation of a safe haven and a "quiet time" at Princeton (by some loving colleagues), where he could "entertain" his delusions . Once he began to understand his irrational side (delusionary thinking), he slowly, ever so slowly began to improve and to return to a functional life.

I thank those who support me, it will be a miracle to see me obtain a doctorate, aside from overcoming heroin addiction, mental issues not to mention having dropped out of 8th grade I still struggle with lack of belief in my ow intelligence. It's funny you mention Princeton because thats where I hope to attend and if this happens my own self-parodox will become a truth.

Anyway, getting back on point, paradoxical conclusions, contradictions and direct defiance are the reasons physics exists. Science, being the only proven truths, does not interest me. I find my self-worth in the meta-physical. My love of philosophy and my distain for mathematics are contradictions in the face of physics and this is where I feel most comfortable. Religion, being the introspection of self, feeds my philosophical desires. I think my saving grace, the reason I don't fall into that rabbit hole is my ability to allow somethings to be unproven. Somethings belong to God and this is where man needs to find his boundaries.

 

[DLD]

This is one of the best threads ever, I would love to see it get more attention and insight...Anyone?

 

[bigjim7]

Trying to think of something really deep and insightful to say but nothing is coming to me at the moment. The stuff I say is very spur of the moment and intuitive and if I try and force it it seems to lock up the flow a bit like a freestyle rapper I suppose. I am going to go to bed and sleep on it and keep a notepad by the bed so I can remember it in the morning. I will contemplate life the universe and everything and were Penis Enlargement fits in to it. I keep thinking of those tribal fertility carvings with the huge erect penises and other phallic objects that represent fertility. Does us wanting to bigger penises mean we want to be more fertile, attract a mate and have a stronger survival instinct than other men because of this. Or are we just more animalistic for the same reason because the sexual urges that all life has serves to continue that life. And in the great scheme of things why is it so important that life continues long after we are dead. What consequence would it be to the cosmos if we all died with no one to replace us. Maybe we all as a whole are the collective awareness of the universe. If a tree falls in a forest and there is no one there to hear it does it make a sound, if there is no life in the universe does it cease to exist. Another great pardox is life itself we believe that each and everone of us is a seperate entity and most of us unenlightened head down that path of seperation but we can't escape the fact that we are a part of the cosmos as much as a every cell we are made of is a part of our body. Ironically, maybe once we no longer crave this seperation only then will we be free and the strings of our soul can detach fom this membrane of limited existance and float freely like the graviton and become at one with god again. Just a few thoughts like I said I am going to sleep on it for now

Peace

 

[DLD]

Trying to think of something really deep and insightful to say but nothing is coming to me at the moment. The stuff I say is very spur of the moment and intuitive and if I try and force it it seems to lock up the flow a bit like a freestyle rapper I suppose. I am going to go to bed and sleep on it and keep a notepad by the bed so I can remember it in the morning. I will contemplate life the universe and everything and were Penis Enlargement fits in to it. I keep thinking of those tribal fertility carvings with the huge erect penises and other phallic objects that represent fertility. Does us wanting to bigger penises mean we want to be more fertile, attract a mate and have a stronger survival instinct than other men because of this. Or are we just more animalistic for the same reason because the sexual urges that all life has serves to continue that life. And in the great scheme of things why is it so important that life continues long after we are dead. What consequence would it be to the cosmos if we all died with no one to replace us. Maybe we all as a whole are the collective awareness of the universe. If a tree falls in a forest and there is no one there to hear it does it make a sound, if there is no life in the universe does it cease to exist. Another great pardox is life itself we believe that each and everone of us is a seperate entity and most of us unenlightened head down that path of seperation but we can't escape the fact that we are a part of the cosmos as much as a every cell we are made of is a part of our body. Ironically, maybe once we no longer crave this seperation only then will we be free and the strings of our soul can detach fom this membrane of limited existance and float freely like the graviton and become at one with god again. Just a few thoughts like I said I am going to sleep on it for now

Peace

Beautiful! This type of elegance inspires me.

 

[bigjim7]

Beautiful! This type of elegance inspires me.

Thankyou it's nice to know not everybody thinks I am talking bollocks. I was thinking last night about some of the thing I had said in my previous post. Life exists in the physical dimensions but if it were to cease it would still exist in others at it moves on to the spirirt world. So why does life need to manifest itself as matter in the four dimensions that we live. Maybe it is part of a refining process and like the carpenter who works to smooth a rough edge he first starts with a rough file to remove the harshes edges and then on to sandpaper. The good news is that I believe this is the lowest plain of existance, a living hell. This is the battlefield where we fight our demons and only when we are victorious can we be elevated to a higher level. Through Karma like the rough file it refines the strings of our soul until they vibrate in harmony with our surroundings and we no longer desire to go the path of seperation. Only then will we see the true Kingdom of heaven in all its glory and like a philharmonic orchestra our strings will be in tune and we can then join in the great symphony of life. Do not despair if this seems unattainable to you at the moment for the journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step (Confuscious) every now and again a great soul is sent to shine a light in the darkness to show us the way. Some people call them prophets e.g. Jesus, Mohammed, Moses, The Budha and there message is only understood by a few but it if there real teachings can be fathomed then they are excellent starting points. Unfortunately if you were to shine a light in a dark room briefly and asked different people what they saw you would get very different answers, as with religion sadly we have seen what some people believe they see in the great teachings. This is were a need to be objective and impassive comes in. For example the bible, is it the word of god? Of course not, first of all it is the word of the publisher which has been translated from Greek to English and before that from Hebrew. So straight away you have a bone of contention, I have seen academics argue that Jesus wasn't a carpenter because the Hebrew word for carpenter is very similar to the word for scholar or learned man. So how do we know what to believe? Well I believe like some that there are perennial truths that resonate in all religions and teachings of great men such as Socrates, Plato and Arisotle. The dying and resurecting God is something that I have discussed in a previous post on this thread. There are many others such as Homer's The Odyssey in which our hero Odyseus's journey represents the torrid journey of the soul and when he returns home he must rid his home of the suitors to his wife. Like us when we have arrived at our journey and have mastered our actions we must then master our thoughts, our inner desires and although we no longer act on them still nedd to be rid of them. So like Odyseus's wife (this is the feminine side in all of us that is our wisdom) we are besieged by the suitors in our deepest thoughts only when we have purged these from our hearts and homes can we be free.
I've said enough now, I would welcome some feedback no matter what your opinion. Even if you don't agree with what I am saying I liked to know other peoples views.

Peace