Well I've been using my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] for about three months now, and I've noticed a few things along the way... I've definitely gotten some discoloration, which really doesn't bother me since it seems to fade some if I take a break for a few days, but if anyone has found any lotion that helps with it I'd give it a try. The second thing I noticed is that it definitely is working, it looks thicker and possibly a little longer. When I measured yesterday I was quite surprised by what I found. My girth hasn't really gone up much at all maybe 5.25" to 5.4", but I thought I had gained more by the look and feel. What really surprised me was my BPFSL, when I started using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] I was at 7.8" and yesterday I was at 8.25"! I seem to be gaining twice as much length for some reason, I'm wondering if it has to do with letting the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] hang while I shower once it gets a seal, since I really haven't been using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] much since I'm pretty fatigued from the pump. Has anybody had similar results? It seems that I am the opposite of everybody on the forum and gaining length for some reason. Maybe it's a case of length coming before girth? Either way gains are gains so I'm pumped (pun intended):cool:
 
My experience is very similar to yours and could be explained by an article Mike wrote about the 'Penis is more balloon than rope' (or something like that). I too hang hands free while completing my pedestrian shower duties, so there could be a bit of 'lig-stretch' involved, but I really think our tissues just grow, (not in a singular direction) they just expand along length and width
 
Big Schwanz Acht;710115 said:
My experience is very similar to yours and could be explained by an article Mike wrote about the 'Penis is more balloon than rope' (or something like that). I too hang hands free while completing my pedestrian shower duties, so there could be a bit of 'lig-stretch' involved, but I really think our tissues just grow, (not in a singular direction) they just expand along length and width

It just seems odd that I'm gaining 2x more length than girth, but maybe it's just an initial thing and it will shift to girth as I keep going.
 
rocky1243;710136 said:
No problem, remember gains come proportionally for the most part. So naturally girth is going to take a little more effort.

Girth always seemed to be one of the toughest things to grow for me. It might be my mind set.
 
It has been pretty tough for me as well, but I'm definitely on the right track for more girth. I think it's fairly common to really have to work at it, since it's adding so much more volume.
 
ThatDude512;710146 said:
It has been pretty tough for me as well, but I'm definitely on the right track for more girth. I think it's fairly common to really have to work at it, since it's adding so much more volume.

Definitely. And the exercises are working on a whole different level from just stretching. It's expansion which seems harder to do.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;710115 said:
My experience is very similar to yours and could be explained by an article Mike wrote about the 'Penis is more balloon than rope' (or something like that). I too hang hands free while completing my pedestrian shower duties, so there could be a bit of 'lig-stretch' involved, but I really think our tissues just grow, (not in a singular direction) they just expand along length and width

Thanks for sighting that study: The Penis is a Balloon not a Rope

I have read many posts in my time on the impact of girth effecting length and visa-versa. Some men believe training girth may hinder length gains and I want to debate this. In my opinion Length and Girth not only complement each other but a small gain in both directions increase the total size of your penis then if you made the same gain in any single area

I hear people comparing the penis to rope or a rubber band stating that it is easier to stretch a thinner rope or band in comparison to a thicker one. I completely agree with this theory but I feel it is a poor penile comparison. The penis is more like a balloon as it is filled with blood when we get an erection and emptied when we are flaccid.

The reason I debate this is simple you can't fill a rope with liquid so it is impossible to expand the rope through increasing thickness. But you can expand a balloon length and thickness by increasing its load capacity. When you fill a balloon past it’s capacity it not only grows wider but longer too. The penis is very similar to balloon in that when we fill it with blood during an erection it expands outward and upward.

With that said I think it is a bad decision to neglect girth in hopes for better length gains. I have always trained both Length and Girth with as much intensity as the other with very good results.
 
This is the logic I employ, but as Mike wrote, there could be more to it than that. Let me throw this out there for investigation/discussion:

Maybe the CC is more like a balloon and the Tunica is more like a rope...it's possible we're having to employ the 'rubberband-stretching' theory along w/the 'balloon' theory(?)
 
doublelongdaddy;710196 said:
Thanks for sighting that study: The Penis is a Balloon not a Rope

I have read many posts in my time on the impact of girth effecting length and visa-versa. Some men believe training girth may hinder length gains and I want to debate this. In my opinion Length and Girth not only complement each other but a small gain in both directions increase the total size of your penis then if you made the same gain in any single area

I hear people comparing the penis to rope or a rubber band stating that it is easier to stretch a thinner rope or band in comparison to a thicker one. I completely agree with this theory but I feel it is a poor penile comparison. The penis is more like a balloon as it is filled with blood when we get an erection and emptied when we are flaccid.

The reason I debate this is simple you can't fill a rope with liquid so it is impossible to expand the rope through increasing thickness. But you can expand a balloon length and thickness by increasing its load capacity. When you fill a balloon past it’s capacity it not only grows wider but longer too. The penis is very similar to balloon in that when we fill it with blood during an erection it expands outward and upward.

With that said I think it is a bad decision to neglect girth in hopes for better length gains. I have always trained both Length and Girth with as much intensity as the other with very good results.
Yeah I definitely agree, I was really focused on length for a long time, so much that I somewhat neglected girth work. Then I started focusing on girth work more and boom, I broke my length plateau and finally broke the 8" BPFSL barrier that I have been working on for damn near a year! Awesome stuff!
 
Big Schwanz Acht;710226 said:
This is the logic I employ, but as Mike wrote, there could be more to it than that. Let me throw this out there for investigation/discussion:

Maybe the CC is more like a balloon and the Tunica is more like a rope...it's possible we're having to employ the 'rubberband-stretching' theory along w/the 'balloon' theory(?)
I think you may be on to something there brother.
 
In my opinion, allowing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] to hang while you are standing is the real deal and this is my new approach to avoid waist pain and to gain length faster.
 
huge-girth;710266 said:
In my opinion, allowing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] to hang while you are standing is the real deal and this is my new approach to avoid waist pain and to gain length faster.

Sounds like the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] hardcore stretch but with much less tension.
I'm thinking about trying it out while i use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for 5minutes as a warm down.
Do you think using [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] like this will neglect girth as it is promoting length?
Also, is it safe?
 
I've been letting my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] hang during my normal showering duties for almost 2 years...it definitely is safe, (as long as you don't suddenly lose suction and it falls-off and lands on your big toe)
 
huge-girth;710266 said:
In my opinion, allowing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] to hang while you are standing is the real deal and this is my new approach to avoid waist pain and to gain length faster.

I prefer sitting mainly because I'm watching videos. But I'll try standing if it hurts less.
 
habban;710272 said:
Sounds like the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] hardcore stretch but with much less tension.
I'm thinking about trying it out while i use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for 5minutes as a warm down.
Do you think using [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] like this will neglect girth as it is promoting length?
Also, is it safe?

I think it won't affect girth, it will help in length gains I think so.
 
kyomoto;710297 said:
I prefer sitting mainly because I'm watching videos. But I'll try standing if it hurts less.

I prefer sitting for the same reason you mentioned but I don't sit properly when pumping. I push my chest out and this is causing pains on my waist. When I resume training, I will experiment with sitting and tuck my chest in and I will see how it goes for a month.
 
huge-girth;710476 said:
I prefer sitting for the same reason you mentioned but I don't sit properly when pumping. I push my chest out and this is causing pains on my waist. When I resume training, I will experiment with sitting and tuck my chest in and I will see how it goes for a month.

Do you have anterior pelvic tilt?
 
ThatDude512;710229 said:
Yeah I definitely agree, I was really focused on length for a long time, so much that I somewhat neglected girth work. Then I started focusing on girth work more and boom, I broke my length plateau and finally broke the 8" BPFSL barrier that I have been working on for damn near a year! Awesome stuff!

:)
 
kyomoto;710504 said:
Do you have anterior pelvic tilt?

I suffered from it and it made me stopped training. Now I need to start sitting properly cause I now know where the problem came from.
 
huge-girth;711071 said:
I suffered from it and it made me stopped training. Now I need to start sitting properly cause I now know where the problem came from.

Stretch your hip flexors and work on glute exercises to fix the posture, over time this will aid you and when you're conscious of bad posture fix it especially when you walk
 
kyomoto;711087 said:
Stretch your hip flexors and work on glute exercises to fix the posture, over time this will aid you and when you're conscious of bad posture fix it especially when you walk

It doesn't affect me when I walk. It only happens when I sit and do girth work and its as a result of the way I sit. I no longer suffer from those chronic pains. When I get my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], I will learn to sit properly. Thanks for the advice bro.
 
kyomoto;711087 said:
Stretch your hip flexors and work on glute exercises to fix the posture, over time this will aid you and when you're conscious of bad posture fix it especially when you walk

Good Advice!
 
ThatDude512;710112 said:
Well I've been using my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] for about three months now, and I've noticed a few things along the way... I've definitely gotten some discoloration, which really doesn't bother me since it seems to fade some if I take a break for a few days, but if anyone has found any lotion that helps with it I'd give it a try. The second thing I noticed is that it definitely is working, it looks thicker and possibly a little longer. When I measured yesterday I was quite surprised by what I found. My girth hasn't really gone up much at all maybe 5.25" to 5.4", but I thought I had gained more by the look and feel. What really surprised me was my BPFSL, when I started using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] I was at 7.8" and yesterday I was at 8.25"! I seem to be gaining twice as much length for some reason, I'm wondering if it has to do with letting the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] hang while I shower once it gets a seal, since I really haven't been using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] much since I'm pretty fatigued from the pump. Has anybody had similar results? It seems that I am the opposite of everybody on the forum and gaining length for some reason. Maybe it's a case of length coming before girth? Either way gains are gains so I'm pumped (pun intended):cool:
hmmm i wish i had this problem lol length comes hard for me
 
huge-girth;711165 said:
It doesn't affect me when I walk. It only happens when I sit and do girth work and its as a result of the way I sit. I no longer suffer from those chronic pains. When I get my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], I will learn to sit properly. Thanks for the advice bro.

IT may not affect you but it certainly will when you're older if you do have anterior pelvic tilt.
 
acromegaly;711347 said:
hmmm i wish i had this problem lol length comes hard for me

I was just the opposite! :) We all have challenges.
 
Well I've been using my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] for about three months now, and I've noticed a few things along the way... I've definitely gotten some discoloration, which really doesn't bother me since it seems to fade some if I take a break for a few days, but if anyone has found any lotion that helps with it I'd give it a try. The second thing I noticed is that it definitely is working, it looks thicker and possibly a little longer. When I measured yesterday I was quite surprised by what I found. My girth hasn't really gone up much at all maybe 5.25" to 5.4", but I thought I had gained more by the look and feel. What really surprised me was my BPFSL, when I started using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] I was at 7.8" and yesterday I was at 8.25"! I seem to be gaining twice as much length for some reason, I'm wondering if it has to do with letting the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] hang while I shower once it gets a seal, since I really haven't been using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] much since I'm pretty fatigued from the pump. Has anybody had similar results? It seems that I am the opposite of everybody on the forum and gaining length for some reason. Maybe it's a case of length coming before girth? Either way gains are gains so I'm pumped (pun intended)🆒

There might be some beneath in letting the bathmate hang facing down. But the bathmate or any penis pump will likely bring some length gains over time.
 
It just seems odd that I'm gaining 2x more length than girth, but maybe it's just an initial thing and it will shift to girth as I keep going.
I'm the other way around. I have wrote this before, but; I mostly gain girth (getting expansion) with the Bathmate pumps. I even expand into the sides (into the rubber creases) so the "gator" gets me every time, sometimes I get bruised.
("gator" == rubber creases).

When I started out using the hydromax 5, I increased my expansion in length a little over the 6" line (starting at the: 4.5" to 5" line), but now I only get stuck in the "gator". It took some time to get there. I need the 7 wide boy now.

So maybe you are correct, when you start out you mostly expand on the length, but I think it's diffrent for different people.

The guy that got me into Bathmate pumps, seems to only need the regular (he started at hydromax 5) hydromax 7 and he gets most expansion in length. He have pumped for a long time, and he do not do anything else then Bathmate and Jelqing.
This guy wasn't even close to hitting the walls in the pump.
 
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Stretch your hip flexors and work on glute exercises to fix the posture, over time this will aid you and when you're conscious of bad posture fix it especially when you walk
A good exercise for posture is deadlift. If you do it correctly, it's superior to anything else. You become strong as an ox doing it.
 
And you reclaim any loss in height
My ability to keep my body in a more upright position, it's easier when performing deadlift (everything gets more stable). Also my back pain reduces. It was 26 days ago I was at the gym. My posture is bad. Need to get back to it.
 
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