I have dabbled in Penis Enlargement since I stumbled onto this site about 3 months ago (or so) I have done some heavy jelquing and stretching and while my size did not grow, my penis did feel alot heavier and fuller all day. So I figure I'll give it a go. try real hard for a few months and see what I can come up with. but the problem with me is i'm a "dive in heads first" kind of guy and The beginner routines just do not seem to cut it for me. I just ordered a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] tonight. and I am probably going to order the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. SO the reason I'm posting here is that I would LOVE an GREATLY appreciate if one of the people who have been here a while like red or the big man himseld DLD would give me a routine that includes my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. for ULTIMATE gains. I dont want to ease into it. I've played with my dick my entire life. I know the limits of my stretching and jelquing. and i'm ready to try for the big leagues. I am 7 inches on a good day. i'd say more 6.5 on average (since I dont get as hard as when I was 17 lol) and 5.5 inches around. My goal is 8.5 length (at least) and about 6.5 around. give or take a few. So i would like a rigorous hardcore get to the point program. and I will give weekly updates on my progress and be 100% truthful. thank you very much and hope for a good response.