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Old news to some of us, but if most of us added:

[U RL="http://mattersofsize.com"]Penis Enlargement[/U RL] AND

[U RL="http://mattersofsize.com/forum"]Penis Enlargement Forum[/U RL]

COPY PASTE THE ABOVE, THEN REMOVE THE SPACE IN ''URL''

to our signature lines, it would help the main site and this forum list higher in search engines. Higher listings in search engines means more people see our site before the other guys' sites. We're the best, and men need the info we have to offer. Also, the more members, the more revenue. That keeps this place running, and growing, and ahead of the game as a result.
 
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True. Works even better if you use keywords instead of the address.

Like if you put Penis Enlargement Forum you'd be helping more, because Google matches the search term "penis enlargement forum" with the site that the hyperlink is pointing too. Or you could make the keyword/phrase "penis enlargement tips" or "get a bigger penis" or whatever.

If you do that on multiple sites/forums, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] would rank higher for the search term "penis enlargement forum" or whatever your linked text says. Does that make sense?
 
allergix;364003 said:
True. Works even better if you use keywords instead of the address.

Like if you put Penis Enlargement Forum you'd be helping more, because Google matches the search term "penis enlargement forum" with the site that the hyperlink is pointing too. Or you could make the keyword/phrase "penis enlargement tips" or "get a bigger penis" or whatever.

If you do that on multiple sites/forums, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] would rank higher for the search term "penis enlargement forum" or whatever your linked text says. Does that make sense?

YES it does make sense, and I seem to recall what you said about the key word hyperlink being true as well. For those who don't know how to make a key word hyper it's like this:

[UR L="http://mattersofsize.com/forum"]Penis Enlargement Forum[/UR L]

COPY/PASTE, THEN REMOVE THE SPACE IN ''URL''
 
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BTW, I just googled ''Penis Enlargement'' and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is on PAGE FOUR of the results. Th*nd3rs is on the same page, FUCKIN MYNEWSIZE is on PAGE THREE and they're practically a DEAD forum!! Comon guys, help out the site you LOVE.

EDIT, searching for ''Penis Enlargement Forum'' on google, turns up THIS forum on the FIRST PAGE!!! WOOOOT!! Th*nd3rs is still listed first currently though. SIGH. We're currently in the number four spot for forum search results. Now to get the paysite up there!!
 
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Yeah. Best way to get higher search engine results would be to have more quality external links pointing to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], particularly from high ranked sites. So Th*nd3rs is a good place to start obviously, being that they are above [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] in the search results. But the best place to have links posted is ezinearticles.com. So if you're an article writer, post some penis enlargement articles on ezinearticles.com and in the actual article, have the Penis Enlargement Forum link thing that I discussed above.

There are 6000+ links pointing to mattersofsize.com, and it has a Google page ranking of 3 out of 10 (where 10 is ranked the highest) which is more than most sites will ever see. More quality links (ie. from higher ranked sites like ezinearticles.com) will increase the page rank in Google and amount of unique traffic coming in.

Its good that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] ranks on first page for "penis enlargement forum" but 4th page is actually REALLY good for 'penis enlargement' because that search term is HIGHLY competitive. Think of the amount of affiliate sites out there selling penis enlargement products. If [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] could rank even on second page for penis enlargement there'd be a massive increase in traffic.

I'm rambling.

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I guess what I'm trying to say in that last paragraph is that (in my oppinion) if there was more focus put on increasing the ranking for the term 'penis enlargement'... there would be a much greater change in unique traffic, compared to say... if [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] ranked #1 for penis enlargement forum.
 
EXCELLENT THREAD! Thanks so much guys for helping out...We are the biggest penis enlargement site in the world, the search engines should know this.
 
The links would work better if they were on OTHER forums. Heaps of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]-links on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] forum wont help much because essentially its one site linking to itself which doesn't help the google rank at all.
 
Yeah, then other forums kick you off thinking you're spamming.

Ranking sucks cause it's an ongoing process for competitive markets like penis enlargement. I do think if the forums did get on the first page, they wouldn't leave. Thunder/gym/mos are both on page 3. Questions get asked quite often about products outside of forums and those links generally point to the actual [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]/pill sites, so it's pretty hard to outrank those.

DLD you should do some analytics if you haven't. "Penis enlargement" is pretty tough. Most cases forums only rank well for their titled posts such as a topic on "how to enlarge my penis" or "such-n-such review done on this [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]". You can check out search keywords that people use to find about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].

Most cases the top page is affiliate links promoting products related to Penis Enlargement. So once you take out those top "competitors" you start killing incomes and people get desperate. So ranking for Penis Enlargement in general would take an army of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] peeps. rofl


I got the guns ready. :cool:
 
Thanks guys for you help in this endeavor. Another thing that is very helpful is posting the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] link at other, similar sites.
 
Yeah repetitive linking on the same domain IP loses it's value overtime. Targeting penis enlargement is very difficult and targeting penis enlargement forum is also not targeted to the newbies. Instead mainly to the people already seasoned with doing Penis Enlargement that even know forums exist on the topic. Then again there are people that are new and know to use that term, but targeting something like "enlarge your penis" is probably better (but difficult). Something you figure a normal person would use.

"natural penis enlargement" "enlarge penis naturally" (good for forum techniques since some are afraid of sticking stuff to their penis or hanging engines from their shafts)
"pennis enlargement" (common misspelling, yes people do it in large quantities (22k per month))
"best penis enlargement" "penis enlargement program" "penis product review" (mainly controlled by review sites and some bogus offers, def not a good term)
"enlarge my penis" "ways to enlarge penis" "enlarge penis size" (the common person, but also targeted by affiliate programs and bogus shit)
"how enlarge my penis" (notice there's no : to, can i, will i : after how. Google has certain stop words they don't use sometimes. It still pulls up all variations of the term with "how" and "enlarge my penis")
"increase blood flow to penis" (for the more seasoned, people that may already know the, "why does a penis enlarge" question and basing their research off that)

It's very easy for a forum to keep a tight group of people, especially since Penis Enlargement is a important topic even if there is a lot of curious/skeptic people out there (you know they wanna). It's just finding those people without looking like a SPAM site.
There's really no easy way to get people to a site that is about penis enlargement. There's that to blame for phony programs, certain topicals/creams, REBILLING pill offers, and mainly results that are guaranteed that are so crazy that you never
would of thought in a million years someone would opt for something like that, but they do. A lot of non-legitimate sites out there are taking advantage of people that want to learn how to enlarge their penis and in the long run their just con-Artists
taking advantage of people. It's very different when you're products are good and 1/2 people that bought it have seen some results and the other 1/2 just getting started on the learning curve. There's just so many bad seeds in this market and they
have controlled a large portion of it that it's hard for legit sites to even compete with most. There are lot of legit sites building rep though on the topics, mainly forums so that's a good thing. /rant

Yeah social media is probably the best bet. Linking on other forums will most likely get you banned so take note of that. Getting pages ranked are sometimes difficult depending on where the link is placed since penis enlargement in general have been associated with spam - It's difficult to get ranked since most sites use non-legit (blackhat/greyhat) techniques to build links. There might be some vBulletin SEO apps out there for forums. For instance if you have a addon to href (which is hyperlinking, just different terms) Bathmate along with Bathmate , then you're also building some authority to those links. Just have to replace with the official [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] page for mattersofsize, since that actual link will only benefit their (Bathmates) website, but the coupon is still there. It's just internal linking. If you ever checked out WIKIPenis EnlargementDIA you may be overwhelmed with the amount of links they have in their articles on site. Think about it, you wouldn't link to something on another portion to this website if it wasn't important. That technique sends authority to that particular page which tells whatever search engine that sees it, that "this is important link and it should be treated like one", so in turn you rank higher for that term. Then again like I said above somewhere through this forest of text, that repetitive linking overtime can lose value. It's true to keyword terms and is the same for others as well.

WIKIPenis EnlargementDIA uses what is called the nofollow attribute, which basically tells a search engine, "don't follow this link". That link may have already be followed once before on another page, but on this page, it's saying "we have more important links to follow, don't allow this one". Nofollow means that no link juice (link juice is just a term for reputation, some might say you only have a certain amount of reputation in a "glass" and you can only pour 8 cups until you're empty, those cups get reputation, the other cups don't get any - the cups that got it on the most important of them all; CUPS = Links ; maybe a bad reference?) will be passed to those links. Leaving all the other links to be more important in the eyes of a search engine. Which is why most sites nofollow the "about us" contact us" "privacy policy" "homepage". Those 3 example links are stealing link juice from the more important links. --------------

This could be (for this site), the "reply" "reply with quote" CERTAIN BUTTONS , ETC. I already checked and those buttons are no followed on here, which I guess is already integrated into the code. Thread numbers (#) don't have it though. It's very complex so I doubt there is an addon for vBulletin like that, but you never know.

The link juice thing is basically in reference to it's probably not best to LINK within signatures since overtime the value will diminish. You increase their value by adding no follow to links that don't need it. I guess I could have just typed that instead of going into a rank about link juice and shit.


Hopefully the above is not confusing to anyone :D I think I need a beer.
 
Wow that was a big wall of text, but if you made it through it. Here's a treat.

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smerc;391991 said:
Yeah repetitive linking on the same domain IP loses it's value overtime. Targeting penis enlargement is very difficult and targeting penis enlargement forum is also not targeted to the newbies. Instead mainly to the people already seasoned with doing Penis Enlargement that even know forums exist on the topic. Then again there are people that are new and know to use that term, but targeting something like "enlarge your penis" is probably better (but difficult). Something you figure a normal person would use.

"natural penis enlargement" "enlarge penis naturally" (good for forum techniques since some are afraid of sticking stuff to their penis or hanging engines from their shafts)
"pennis enlargement" (common misspelling, yes people do it in large quantities (22k per month))
"best penis enlargement" "penis enlargement program" "penis product review" (mainly controlled by review sites and some bogus offers, def not a good term)
"enlarge my penis" "ways to enlarge penis" "enlarge penis size" (the common person, but also targeted by affiliate programs and bogus shit)
"how enlarge my penis" (notice there's no : to, can i, will i : after how. Google has certain stop words they don't use sometimes. It still pulls up all variations of the term with "how" and "enlarge my penis")
"increase blood flow to penis" (for the more seasoned, people that may already know the, "why does a penis enlarge" question and basing their research off that)

It's very easy for a forum to keep a tight group of people, especially since Penis Enlargement is a important topic even if there is a lot of curious/skeptic people out there (you know they wanna). It's just finding those people without looking like a SPAM site.
There's really no easy way to get people to a site that is about penis enlargement. There's that to blame for phony programs, certain topicals/creams, REBILLING pill offers, and mainly results that are guaranteed that are so crazy that you never
would of thought in a million years someone would opt for something like that, but they do. A lot of non-legitimate sites out there are taking advantage of people that want to learn how to enlarge their penis and in the long run their just con-Artists
taking advantage of people. It's very different when you're products are good and 1/2 people that bought it have seen some results and the other 1/2 just getting started on the learning curve. There's just so many bad seeds in this market and they
have controlled a large portion of it that it's hard for legit sites to even compete with most. There are lot of legit sites building rep though on the topics, mainly forums so that's a good thing. /rant

Yeah social media is probably the best bet. Linking on other forums will most likely get you banned so take note of that. Getting pages ranked are sometimes difficult depending on where the link is placed since penis enlargement in general have been associated with spam - It's difficult to get ranked since most sites use non-legit (blackhat/greyhat) techniques to build links. There might be some vBulletin SEO apps out there for forums. For instance if you have a addon to href (which is hyperlinking, just different terms) Bathmate along with Bathmate , then you're also building some authority to those links. Just have to replace with the official [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] page for mattersofsize, since that actual link will only benefit their (Bathmates) website, but the coupon is still there. It's just internal linking. If you ever checked out WIKIPenis EnlargementDIA you may be overwhelmed with the amount of links they have in their articles on site. Think about it, you wouldn't link to something on another portion to this website if it wasn't important. That technique sends authority to that particular page which tells whatever search engine that sees it, that "this is important link and it should be treated like one", so in turn you rank higher for that term. Then again like I said above somewhere through this forest of text, that repetitive linking overtime can lose value. It's true to keyword terms and is the same for others as well.

WIKIPenis EnlargementDIA uses what is called the nofollow attribute, which basically tells a search engine, "don't follow this link". That link may have already be followed once before on another page, but on this page, it's saying "we have more important links to follow, don't allow this one". Nofollow means that no link juice (link juice is just a term for reputation, some might say you only have a certain amount of reputation in a "glass" and you can only pour 8 cups until you're empty, those cups get reputation, the other cups don't get any - the cups that got it on the most important of them all; CUPS = Links ; maybe a bad reference?) will be passed to those links. Leaving all the other links to be more important in the eyes of a search engine. Which is why most sites nofollow the "about us" contact us" "privacy policy" "homepage". Those 3 example links are stealing link juice from the more important links. --------------

This could be (for this site), the "reply" "reply with quote" CERTAIN BUTTONS , ETC. I already checked and those buttons are no followed on here, which I guess is already integrated into the code. Thread numbers (#) don't have it though. It's very complex so I doubt there is an addon for vBulletin like that, but you never know.

The link juice thing is basically in reference to it's probably not best to LINK within signatures since overtime the value will diminish. You increase their value by adding no follow to links that don't need it. I guess I could have just typed that instead of going into a rank about link juice and shit.


Hopefully the above is not confusing to anyone :D I think I need a beer.

Do you do seo work? We really need help!
 
Not really, I don't provide it, but it's something that always interested me. It might be something I do later on in life, but as of now, nope.

I don't know forums all that well, their pretty tricky. Especially one involving Penis Enlargement. Only the strong survive due to it's members and this one is top tier.
One of the best methods of promotion is just word of mouth through social media and the videos that you put out on youtube. It really helps
to promote yourself as a credible source, you've been in a few flicks yourself and know the ins and outs. I would go over your web analytics
and see what referrers you get the most of.

The majority is probably from google, but you can drill down to what keyterms users came in from. Just helps to know what to target people for
so you can put out content based off that result. I know [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is getting pretty popular and there are probably a lot of people out there with
questions before purchasing it and there are a lot of people here who have got great results with it. The forum seems to be a good source of
tricks and tips beyond the beginner level of basic use. So you could try getting some of that information out there.

Another thing I just checked right now, typing in the basic "penis enlargement forum". Quite a bit come up that probably don't have the amount
of members this forum has, for instance enlargementforums(dot)com. Only has 44 topics total and it's ranked on the first page. 44 topics versus
40,000 that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] has. Just goes to show that pointing backlinks to a url that has "enlargemenforums" in it, can drastically increase it's rank. The
same can be done to topic posts, mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php"?????-Penis-Enlargement-Forum . As long as the anchor text and url
contains both keyterms, it can help increase the chances of ranking for it overtime.

Going to bed. :)
 
smerc;392397 said:
Not really, I don't provide it, but it's something that always interested me. It might be something I do later on in life, but as of now, nope.

I don't know forums all that well, their pretty tricky. Especially one involving Penis Enlargement. Only the strong survive due to it's members and this one is top tier.
One of the best methods of promotion is just word of mouth through social media and the videos that you put out on youtube. It really helps
to promote yourself as a credible source, you've been in a few flicks yourself and know the ins and outs. I would go over your web analytics
and see what referrers you get the most of.

The majority is probably from google, but you can drill down to what keyterms users came in from. Just helps to know what to target people for
so you can put out content based off that result. I know [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is getting pretty popular and there are probably a lot of people out there with
questions before purchasing it and there are a lot of people here who have got great results with it. The forum seems to be a good source of
tricks and tips beyond the beginner level of basic use. So you could try getting some of that information out there.

Another thing I just checked right now, typing in the basic "penis enlargement forum". Quite a bit come up that probably don't have the amount
of members this forum has, for instance enlargementforums(dot)com. Only has 44 topics total and it's ranked on the first page. 44 topics versus
40,000 that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] has. Just goes to show that pointing backlinks to a url that has "enlargemenforums" in it, can drastically increase it's rank. The
same can be done to topic posts, mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php"?????-Penis-Enlargement-Forum . As long as the anchor text and url
contains both keyterms, it can help increase the chances of ranking for it overtime.

Going to bed. :)

Thanks for that, I will forward this post to my web guy, hopefully we can put some of these ideas into action.
 
A lot of it has to do with the url structure. Most of the times a site can get indexed and retain the spot for quite a while with minimal promotion. A lot of these sites fall off after a while.
Googles main job in their algoritHydromax is to return relevant results and having your keyword in the domain can help quite a bit. They still give a lot of ranking authority to old domains and
some of the new sites can sometimes get pretty high in the listings, which is bs imo. They still fall off after a while, especially when their not updated. There are a lot of techniques out
there, some of which can get your site "sandboxed" (when creating too many unNatural links, IE: spamming in most cases, sandboxed basically means you get thrown into a certain class
of websites where your rankings drop completely. They kinda gauge what you do after that, kinda like a security cam on a particular website, just monitoring it). Those "sandboxed" sites
can still get their rankings back overtime and in some cases, rank higher than they did before.

I can't really dig into it that much since it would take a lot out of me. I just got back from a friends house from working on his car and I'm tired as shit. BUT, take the word viagra for example.
Ever notice how some people come into forums and just post spam. Or sometimes just stuff completely in the wrong section, making an introduction to the forum. Sometimes it's not even
spam, it's just an introduction. Their user name might contain an actual name like, "TonyRoberts" and their always posting about some shit like, "hi guys, new here. Hoping to meet new friends
and share ideas/information". Well there is certain programs out there that are based around spamming forums, you can spam a list of around 15,000+ forums in just one day. There are list of
forums that are scrapped and sold to people that use the same program.

Once your forum is on a list and gets sold or shared, you get a lot of idiots coming in posting crap like that. It might not contain a link to a website. So we just assume it's real and their post stays. They usually just place
the links in their profile after a while or have them contained in their signature. After a while those posts get indexed, that also trickles to indexing their username, so anything within their profile get's seen
by a search engine and those links are now transferring to their website of choice. Say out of those 15,000 posts, that 10,000 actually stay and get their links distributed. The tricky part now is guessing how a
search engine views all these links, most might see it as, wow 10,000 links, this must be a hot website or topic. All those links then count towards that website helping it increase rapidly. Now sometimes those
websites just fall off completely, like I stated above.

However, as long as you can get to the first page by doing all this for "viagra" and stay there for at least weeks or however long until the site get's flagged (I use flagged cause I don't really know the reason they
fall off, but it's just imo they get flagged due to the nature of their links). That's around 9 million searches a month, so 300,000 a day. Now imagine having a site that was a vendor of viagra, how much money you
have the chance to profit off of all those possible searches. Sure you wont get 300,000 visitors a day. Around 40-50% of people that search only visit the first few sites, 20% or so for the others and so on, the % just
gets lower and lower. This is not why most websites are where they are (on the first page), but it's just something I wanted to point out. Viagra and Penis Enlargement revolve in the same type of niche somewhat.
 
Thanks, I am sending all your work to JAZ to implement
 
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