Hello, this is Kris
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Heat always help heal and gain faster. You have the best heater.
When you're using water, warm to hot water helps with keeping the tissues constantly malleable. This is a bonus for using water. If you use air, in reality, you don't have to constantly apply heat. As long as your tissues are sufficiently warmed up at the start, you're good to go.
If you're talking about the MOS Red or red light therapy, it's best to use it at the end. This helps with post workout recovery on top of keeping your penis loose and relaxed. Like I said before, you can use the MOS Red during the post-pumping stage when you wear your cock ring. Save time while you're healing.
bemorethanbig
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I'm still on the warm up always mode, so for me I'm currently doing 30 minutes of manual stretches with RED + NIR to start. I don't do it for cool down or healing (unless of course I feel something strange- then I hit it with RED + NIR immediately). My focus is on warm-up. This could change but for me right now that is what I am doing.
If I am just pumping that day. Anytime I pump I always do 10-15 min of RED + NIR, basically, I always warm up.
OK I am at the middle of 5th month.
No gains at all.
PE is not working with 3 or 4 days a week at least not for me. You must be constant and have patience.
That's it for me, thanks for any help @squirt_inducer_man @DLD @oldandlively @huge-girth
No gains at all.
PE is not working with 3 or 4 days a week at least not for me. You must be constant and have patience.
That's it for me, thanks for any help @squirt_inducer_man @DLD @oldandlively @huge-girth
The reason why you think it is not working is because, you have not been able to get a 100% level of erection.
When you want to measure your girth, your must be at 100% level of erection before you can see your actual size in the measurement.
Very true, my brother.
I can't compete with you. You are the Darwin of PE anyway. I am just speaking about me. Have stopped PE 10 days now and I managed to get an erection near 92%. I measured my penis and it's exactly as it. I truly believe that to have results you must be consistent as tiu have said in the past. Doing PE 3 days a week will not get any result. I challenge anyone here to do lengthmaster only 3 times a week and 5x5x3 only 3 times. No results he will have.
It's difficult for me to have more than 4 times a week PE cause of the nature of my work. I am sorry for disappointing myself first and then you.
No worries. PE is for everyone, but not all will obtain the desired results due to various physiological conditions. Don't just get rid of the tools yet. Keep them as you will see a chance to use them again in the future. This I can vouch. There are other methods of more intense approach using pharmaceutical and medical modifications, but those will only be temporary.
It's okay dear friend.
I am trying hard to make myself believe that everything is ok.
This is just not for me.
I started very stressed a few months ago, you all made me way more positive that I could even imagine with all the problems I had!!
I really wanted a big penis bad sadly this is not for me.
I can't have the equipment because it will always remind me of my failure so I am thinking of selling em half price.
I am trying hard to make myself believe that everything is ok.
This is just not for me.
I started very stressed a few months ago, you all made me way more positive that I could even imagine with all the problems I had!!
I really wanted a big penis bad sadly this is not for me.
I can't have the equipment because it will always remind me of my failure so I am thinking of selling em half price.
Exactly
No worries brother. PE is a journey. Just like life. You have many paths on a journey. At times, you need to side step onto a different path on the journey to adjust to some obstacles, and jump back into the original path when all is good again. PE journey is the same. You hit a wall and you don't see growth. You simply jump onto another path to see if you can get some kind of growth. Other times, you experiment with pharmaceutical grade cocktails, machines that costs your soul, or doing some dangerous things to just kickstart your growth. There are other reasons such as physical and emotional challenges that hinder your growth that you need to overcome. A journey is a life experience that you must enjoy, learn, and compile your wisdom.
No matter what path on the PE journey you may take, we are always here for you.
No matter what path on the PE journey you may take, we are always here for you.
Amen
notmeanymore
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dont feel alone . i never saw much myself either. consider yourself lucky you can walk away from this crap unharmed. i didnt get that lucky. im still recovering. and im to a point where i feel like i feel lucky im not worse off. still may never get to where i was though. and the daily reminer and pain is nothing worth any of this at all
We all have our problems but getting over this it is all about pushing through this. I pray you can get through this.
bemorethanbig
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I have lived with my brother that has bi-polar for 30 years, it has been a daily life long pursuit of happiness. I know everything you are going through although I must admit I have no idea how you feel and I can't know how it is to walk in your shoes, what you go through is something the average person would break with a fraction of what you go through. Give yourself some credit everyday, you are an amazing person!
Now with PE, maybe give it a bit of a break, even my first time, I was not sure if I gained or not, I did but I was not sure. When you hear of people getting 1 inch gains in a few months you can get easily disappointed. Like I always note here, you might be just around the corner of a break through. I believe that and I think you will find the perfect balance of growth and EQ when you have no pressure of a goal or a time frame but an objective.
Now with PE, maybe give it a bit of a break, even my first time, I was not sure if I gained or not, I did but I was not sure. When you hear of people getting 1 inch gains in a few months you can get easily disappointed. Like I always note here, you might be just around the corner of a break through. I believe that and I think you will find the perfect balance of growth and EQ when you have no pressure of a goal or a time frame but an objective.
It seems my penis is not created for gains but I will try new methods. The problem is that to understand what method works for me it could take years. I dont think / know if that matters anymore. I am 40 years. When I will learn how PE works I might be 50 years with no erection at all.
Age has nothing to do with gains. It has to do with loses, or regression. I'm past 50 and I still gain. What does that say? I have a few friends who are in their 60s, and they are still gaining. One of the older friends is dating females in their 20s and 30s. The females, according to him, are sweating and breathing like they are in heat after each of their fun time. So, it's not about age. It's about your positive mindset and willingness to push through. By the way, he may not be bipolar, but he is an introvert, with a touch of schizophrenia. Why am I telling you this? Because we worked on his issues to break him out of his bindings and allow him to go forward with his remaining years in freedom from the restraints. If he can do it, so can you.
Every little gain is a positive step forward. It's like working out for 5 months and you see very little to no gains because the gains are hidden by fat or by something else. If you quit, you will not see anything going forward. In your case, I can understand completely. No gain even in 6 months is considered as devastating. However, commitment at 12 months is what all PE journeymen always aim for. 6 months is considered as a start out. When I performed PE in 2001, I fumbled for 3 years before I joined this brotherhood. 3 years, and what was my gain back then for length? 1cm? Nope. 0.5cm? Yes. For girth, because of the pump, I did gain 1cm in 3 years. 3 years of my life. I understood the process and gained 2.5cm in less than a year for length, and the same for girth. You must spend the time figuring out what's going on with your body, mind, and penis before you can force it to grow. That was the time we spent in advising you to do: to understand your body, mind, and penis potential. Without the three criteria, you might as well going in blind. I was going in completely blind. Now, you have the entire world to provide you insights. Back then, we only have ourselves to talk to each other without any long term insights.
notmeanymore
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dude . id give anything to have mine again. quit while youre ahead. there was zero warning to the death of mine. you have no idea how much this will kill your soul
There's no such thing as bothering us. Rather, you simply expressed your concerns. We have a saying here, "Ask thousand of questions before making a decision." Another one is "Measure 3 times before making the cut." Doesn't matter what saying you use, it's about taking safeguards for protecting yourself. We are here to assist with your questions.
bemorethanbig
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@kris, technically I recommend a break anyways, think of the last 6 months as bootcamp, when you come back in 2-3 months, I think you will have a more positive experience. Perhaps even experience newbie gains. I think you are correct to stop if you did things for 6 months and saw no results, now when you come back you will have a whole new perspective on things.
bemorethanbig
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When you come back switch it up. You might be a Stretch and pump person. I did gain with 5 x 5 x 3 in girth but only after a 6 month jelq and red + nir routine.
I would like to share my experience 2day.
After 23 days of rest, I decided to just "check in" with 5x5x3 and see what would really happen to me if I do this again.
So... I did the program and I came with an expansion of... 1.1' inches to the point the 1.8' cylinder was touching my penis while getting in.
The thing is, that It's the first time I experience this? Can you have this kind of expansion with no-water --- just dry vacuum? I mean, How "big" the skin could have been?
Did anyone experience something like that?
Also, I tried to do what @DLD was saying in one post -- I tried to fatigue the penis as much as I could so after 1 hour of cock ring, I masturbated and put more pressure to my penis.
Can someone explain this?
After 23 days of rest, I decided to just "check in" with 5x5x3 and see what would really happen to me if I do this again.
So... I did the program and I came with an expansion of... 1.1' inches to the point the 1.8' cylinder was touching my penis while getting in.
The thing is, that It's the first time I experience this? Can you have this kind of expansion with no-water --- just dry vacuum? I mean, How "big" the skin could have been?
Did anyone experience something like that?
Also, I tried to do what @DLD was saying in one post -- I tried to fatigue the penis as much as I could so after 1 hour of cock ring, I masturbated and put more pressure to my penis.
Can someone explain this?
It is very normal to have a bigger expansion when you abstain from pumping for a few days or a week or more. It does happen to everyone.
There is no point masturbating after taking off your cock ring. It doesn't do you any good.
This always happens when you allow the penis a chance to reset. When we go too hard, too fast, and cause the system to overreact and goes into preservation mode, you get tug back. Tug back phenomenon is when the penis tries to save itself from injuries or traumas. You don't see any gain because it forces itself to fight. But when you allow a few days of relaxation, or even a few weeks, the system allows to reset and display new potential gains.
Yes you can. Either with water or air, it's about what our penile potential gains from all your prior routines and prior expansions. Water forces more fluid into the skin layers (the fascias) than water, but just a few short minutes of air will not cause too much fluid to retain inside the skin using the 5x5x3 routines.
More like "how big the inner penile chambers can get". You already didn't get work to get the inner chamber to grow over the past months. A bit of rest does that. Your tissues are always expanded and awaiting for you to come back.
Do you remember that I said I could achieve 50% larger? That's commonly after a bit of rest when my tissues reached fatigues. I allowed my tissues to rest for a week or two, especially when I accidently form a bluster, and slowly ease back into my routines. The 50% expansion is due to the reset.
Most of the time for me. Some times, I don't get it if I didn't allow the rest time long enough.
This is a method of inducing the hormone release for blood flow stimulation, mainly endorphins and oxytocin during the process. But don't just ejaculate just yet as your penis will turtle quite hard. Relax after 10 to 20 minutes to get the dopamine rush for another 10 minutes. During this time, keep your penis extended by wrapping or using the sleeve.
Yes, and no. Yes, if you want to see "immediate" potential size increase. No, you can keep going until you want to see that dramatic potential size increase to show off to the lady.
You can take a week off, or two, just to have a quick reset and see where you are. Keep going and don't even look until 6 to 9 months in. You put on the time, you get your reward brother. Do you see now that we are not telling you lies? You keep this up for a long period of time like you are doing a marathon, you will see this as permanent. What you see now as expansion is merely a preview of what to come as permanent gains.
bemorethanbig
Well-known member
I'm Confused and I think someone else as well.
1. What happened with Expansion? I don't get it, did you go in Erect?
2. Why did you need to fatigue penis? That last sentance makes no sense to me.
Potential gains is not permanent until you cement. This means you can't just get permanent gains within 6 months. You allow the tissues to get to that size after 6 months. It will take a bit more to for the tissues to settle and become permanent without having to do the routines daily.
This is part of an old method, or an old statement. It still hold true. The fatigue beyond the erected size mean to extend or expand beyond the original size. Fatigue, back then, covers both stressing the tissues out and pushing the tissues beyond the erectile length/girth. As the tissues go beyond their normal expansion and elongation sizes, the tissues reached fatigued conditions.
How, we want to add an element of fatigue into the mix as we know more about the PE routines over the decades. Fatigue also pushes the ligaments into a stretched state, and the pelvic muscles into a stressed state. This allows the hidden penile length to show up. By expanding the tissues through bundling (using contortion) from stretches, the ballooning effects also allows greater overall expansion. By keeping the fatigue states open longer, you also generate the gaps for cellular repairs and regrowth to fill into the gaps.
So, the phrase "penile fatigue" becomes much greater in details than just tiring the penis out. It's extremelu comprehensive.