9cyclops9 said:
I absolutely agree!!! Training to failure is ENDURANCE training---NOT strength training!
Getting Bench Press from 250lbs to 400lbs
I absolutely agree!!! Training to failure is ENDURANCE training---NOT strength training!
http://media.putfile.com/BenchPress25 1015lb attempt
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9cyclops9
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That was a crazy attempt. It doesn't look like the spotters let go at the same time, what do you guys think?
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bro you wanna increases strenght stick to the basis 5 x 5 or the even better triples, doubles, and singles...plain in simple more weight, less reps
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Failure is used for strength. I train to failure on every set (except warm-up).
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swolejah said:
Nope, sorry. Failure training is touted by HIT followers to promote strength, but it's a very poor method at best. You'd gain much more strength if you dropped failure training completely. Powerlifters don't train to failure, so why do you think it's better for strength? If it were, they would train to failure.
9cyclops9 said:
Looks like he may have busted a rib or two after the decent....he didn't get off the bench for awhile....hope he is OK
swolejah said:
Sorry!!! MUST disagree with you on this---failure for strength training is a POOR way to train......
9cyclops9 said:
We are in agreement---for once
joking!Failure training is a bad method to use for strength training because it traumatizes the CNS, and taxes recovery rates to the extreme. Take notice of how the Westside guys, and Russian Oly lifters train but notice that they don't use Max effort days very often, nor do they train the lifts they are trying to improve directly. This has a lot to do with keeping the CNS fresh and capable of performing the tasks required of it at every workout. Each day is used to imrpove, not to debilitate. Use different planes of motion, change up your set rep schemes, and utilize rest period between 1-2 minutes and your strenght will go up. If you train your whole body in one session do your multijoint exercises at the beginning and at the same time use completely different parameters on a three day a week program. Like Day 1 3X8, Day 3 2X15, Day 5 5X5. Use this style of training and you'll grow like a weed. I've seen it with my clients over the last few months, and regardless of where they are developmentally. It keeps the CNS fresh, no overtraining, and it also elevates GH production, T production, and lipolytic enzyme production. Just a few thoughts.
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makeherscream said:We are in agreement---for once
lol Did we argue about something? I never can remember. I tend to disagree with very many people as far as lifting weights.
But what I'm doing is working like crazy for me!
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well i think it would depend on how you got to failure. Like for example if you are lifting to failure and you only get 2.5 reps then that will build strenght, i know that first hand, but i mean if your doing like 21s to failure thats totally different.
9cyclops9 said:lol Did we argue about something? I never can remember. I tend to disagree with very many people as far as lifting weights.
LOL! I like you, 9cyclops9 ----NOT in THAT way mind you.....
No, we did not argue per say----we mearly had a disagreement You corrected me on the fact that noone had ever done a 1,000lb bench----I was wrong 
Even though it was done by a massive 'juicer' I was wrong I admit my mistakes Take care, and good lifting to you!
im2manly said:
NOW you are talking about forced reps, and possibly 'negatives' ----MUCH more constructive for strength building