oh and i forgot to ask you what you think of using leather ball stretchers b/c i just got a whole set (1.5", 2", 3", 4")? as of right now, i use the 2" occasionally. you can attach weights to these ones though using the so called "D-ring" on the separater strap. i usually just use 1 pound. so far minimal gains. i know you have experience with this stuff so what do you think?