Really sorry, Doublelongdaddy, but you'll be back.

I think the reason a few guys got their noses out of joint is because of the secrecy surrounding the accident, and what happened. My first thought was, "SHIT-- he pulled his dick off!" But, no. The second thought was that maybe Jan threw him through a 5th story window and he landed on a picket fence. Again, no. So with all this info about glass and a severely sliced up arm, I think if the situation was accidental and not deliberate, we'd like to know more about what happened. It would help everybody to wait it out.

It's hard for some guys to give the benefit of the doubt when nobody is saying anything, because they've been burned like that before. And it's harder to understand if it's a big secret. So I think it would be to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] benefit to simply explain what has happened. Be open and honest, and you'd be surprized how many people will do all they can to help.
 
penguinsfan said:
Nico is a personal friend of DLD that sees him regularly. He was just sticking up for his friend and the hostility has pretty much dropped now.



That was my whole point, it wasnt aimed at DLD. Dead permanently, is there another type of death? PD had a valid question about DLDs user name being on late. How was he supposed to know it was someone checking his email? I can understand getting heated if someone is taking shots at your friend, but its very ironic to name call and call anyone childish. That was the point of my post. I can understand Nicos frustration, but at the sametime wanted to point out the funny wording and irony, thats all. It was basically an observation from an outsider.
 
I see how i could of come on a little strong. and i apologize

Basically he has major cuts to his right arm forearm and hand from broken glass window.
I

And Mike will go into full detail as soon as he gets out of the hospital which I am told will be soon.

And as for the "secrecy" it was totally unintentional it was just meant to be kept quit for DLD's privacy out of respect for him.
 
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nicobocabitch said:
And as for the "secrecy" it was totally unintentional it was just meant to be kept quit for DLD's privacy out of respect for him.


You could of at least old us he didnt pull off his dick. lol I had these visions of him tieing a rubberband around the rest of what was left of captain winky to stop the bleeding. Walks in the ER with a bloody cock in his hand asking them to sew it back on. I guess I was wrong. lol
 
Ghosting said:
You could of at least old us he didnt pull off his dick. lol I had these visions of him tieing a rubberband around the rest of what was left of captain winky to stop the bleeding. Walks in the ER with a bloody cock in his hand asking them to sew it back on. I guess I was wrong. lol


Sorry I'm a fiend for suspense
 
Just seriously curious did he purposly punch his hand through the window, colapse fall etc. To me it sounds as if he purposly punched his hand through a window. Was he wasted etc. That really sucks for him and i hope he recovers, but in all due respect there are alout of people who look up to him, cherish him, and see him as an idol. If he is going around being wasted, putting his hand through window (if thats what happend) than he really needs to get some psychological help, especially if he is stressed from how hard he works. Not to mention the fan base he could lose because of an incident like this. Other wise in my honest opinion he might do something worse to himself. I respect DLD, belive his gains, and enjoy his site but there comes a time when "life is a bitch" and people wanna hurt themselves and if this is the case he needs to take a break and get his life togather.. Oh ya about him not driving DLD is a Coo mutha:cool: you know he don't drive with two hands, you know he got that pimp lean swagga..rofl THis is not intended to attack i just care, and am curious.
 
As a Matter of fat DLD dose not even drink anymore so no he was not wasted nor angry.

It was a complete accident and a fluke.

Again all the details of this accident we be released when DLD feels he wants to if he ever does, But at least it will be more clear and you will all understand the situation when he is home.
 
And actually I believe most of his body went through the glass Payne.


What makes it sound like he did it on purpose?
 
Glad to see he´ll be going home soon. He is strong and will overcome this as he has overcome other shit.

Get well soon Mike, all my energy to you.
 
nicobocabitch said:
What makes it sound like he did it on purpose?


I think it was the general mystery of DLDs injuries. Cutting your arm is a suicide attempt. So this is what we guessed as we did not know the reason.
 
nicobocabitch said:
And actually I believe most of his body went through the glass Payne.


What makes it sound like he did it on purpose?
Just the way u described it thats all. I didn't mean he cut himself i thought maybe he was upset and punched the window. As men we have all been there u know "punching something u know"
 
I totally understand I never thought you meant suicide or anything like that.


Ive punched a few my self and kicked one or two
 
The BTC Killer said:
...DLD, I support you no matter what...

Which would mean you support him even if this whole Alpha Blade thing is a scam, etc. Even if he came out and admitted the setbacks were false... By your own admission, you would still support him.


Wow.
 
endokrin said:
Which would mean you support him even if this whole Alpha Blade thing is a scam, etc. Even if he came out and admitted the setbacks were false... By your own admission, you would still support him.


Wow.
What have you done for the P.E. community lately?
 
Yaa i was just doing a background check on him.


what is the purpose of this post except to arouse problems?
 
The BTC Killer said:
What have you done for the P.E. community lately?


A question cant be answered with a question. Thats merely an attempt to deflect (not answer the question) the question.
 
Ghosting said:
A question cant be answered with a question. Thats merely an attempt to deflect (not answer the question) the question.
Socratic Method



The oldest, and still the most powerful, teaching tactic for fostering

critical thinking is Socratic teaching. In Socratic teaching we focus on

giving students questions, not answers. We model an inquiring, probing mind

by continually probing into the subject with questions. Fortunately, the

abilities we gain by focusing on the elements of reasoning in a disciplined

and self-assessing way, and the logical relationships that result from such

disciplined thought, prepare us for Socratic questioning.



Thankfully, there is a predictable set of relationships that hold for all

subjects and disciplines. This is given in the general logic of reasoning,

since every subject has been developed by those who had:



* shared goals and objectives (which defined the subject focus)

* shared questions and problems (whose solution they pursued)

* shared information and data (which they used as an empirical basis)

* shared modes of interpreting or judging that information

* shared specialized concepts and ideas (which they used to help them

organize their data)

* shared key assumptions (that gave them a basis from which to

collectively begin)

* a shared point of view (which enabled them to pursue common goals from

a common framework)



Each of the elements represents a dimension into which one can delve in

questioning a person. We can question goals and purposes. We can probe into

the nature of the question, problem, or issue that is on the floor. We can

inquire into whether or not we have relevant data and information. We can

consider alternative interpretations of the data and information. We can

analyze key concepts and ideas. We can question assumptions being made. We

can ask students to trace out the implications and consequences of what they

are saying. We can consider alternative points of view. All of these, and

more, are the proper focus of the Socratic questioner.



As a tactic and approach, Socratic questioning is a highly disciplined

process. The Socratic questioner acts as the logical equivalent of the inner

critical voice which the mind develops when it develops critical thinking

abilities. The contributions from the members of the class are like so many

thoughts in the mind. All of the thoughts must be dealt with and they must

be dealt with carefully and fairly. By following up all answers with further

questions, and by selecting questions which advance the discussion, the

Socratic questioner forces the class to think in a disciplined,

intellectually responsible manner, while yet continually aiding the students

by posing facilitating questions.



A Socratic questioner should:

a) keep the discussion focused

b) keep the discussion intellectually responsible

c) stimulate the discussion with probing questions

d) periodically summarize what has and what has not been dealt with and/or

resolved

e) draw as many students as possible into the discussion.
 
Ghosting said:
A question cant be answered with a question. Thats merely an attempt to deflect (not answer the question) the question.

IMO by not answering the ? he answered it.

Not that it needed answering anyway.
 
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nicobocabitch said:
Yaa i was just doing a background check on him.


To discredit him? Character assasination? I think he had a valid question, yet you seem intent on harassing anyone everytime anyone questions anything. Thats like a blind follower. I dont want to see DLD hurt as much as the next guy, but your attitude is disturbing. Am I the only person who can remain objective? Your responses say you want to turn things ugly as soon as anyone drops a question.
 
nicobocabitch said:
IMO by not answering the ? he answered it.

Not that it needed answering anyway.


Umm, saying "what have you done for the Penis Enlargement community" was not a direct answer to his question. It was saying, "since I invented the Vax-Max, I care more for the Penis Enlargement community, and therefor dont need to justify my response." So I see, anyone who invents something cares more. I gotcha.
 
Ghosting said:
To discredit him? Character assasination? I think he had a valid question, yet you seem intent on harassing anyone everytime anyone questions anything. Thats like a blind follower. I dont want to see DLD hurt as much as the next guy, but your attitude is disturbing. Am I the only person who can remain objective? Your responses say you want to turn things ugly as soon as anyone drops a question.


No after looking into his bacround i can see he is regesterd under more than one name that he almost never posts which tells me he is probably a troll.
 
nicobocabitch said:
No after looking into his bacround i can see he is regesterd under more than one name that he almost never posts which tells me he is probably a troll.


Troll or not, he still asked a valid question. Ok, Im no troll, have the same question, and I dont have multiple user names. Can I get a response?
 
Ghosting said:
Umm, saying "what have you done for the Penis Enlargement community" was not a direct answer to his question. It was saying, "since I invented the Vax-Max, I care more for the Penis Enlargement community, and therefor dont need to justify my response." So I see, anyone who invents something cares more. I gotcha.
It's MaX-Vac by the way, and I'm saying DLD is bigger than DLD. He is M.O.S., he is Alphablade. We all are. Making a interrogatory remark of what if it's a scam, or he lied is irrelevant. DLD doesn't EXPenis EnlargementCT anyone to do anything, but we put the expectations all on him. It doesn't seem balanced. So, what have you done for the P.E. community has nothing to do with me. It is directed at the ones who expect, demand, and irrationalize.
 
The BTC Killer said:
Socratic Method



The oldest, and still the most powerful, teaching tactic for fostering

critical thinking is Socratic teaching. In Socratic teaching we focus on

giving students questions, not answers. We model an inquiring, probing mind

by continually probing into the subject with questions. Fortunately, the

abilities we gain by focusing on the elements of reasoning in a disciplined

and self-assessing way, and the logical relationships that result from such

disciplined thought, prepare us for Socratic questioning.



Thankfully, there is a predictable set of relationships that hold for all

subjects and disciplines. This is given in the general logic of reasoning,

since every subject has been developed by those who had:



* shared goals and objectives (which defined the subject focus)

* shared questions and problems (whose solution they pursued)

* shared information and data (which they used as an empirical basis)

* shared modes of interpreting or judging that information

* shared specialized concepts and ideas (which they used to help them

organize their data)

* shared key assumptions (that gave them a basis from which to

collectively begin)

* a shared point of view (which enabled them to pursue common goals from

a common framework)



Each of the elements represents a dimension into which one can delve in

questioning a person. We can question goals and purposes. We can probe into

the nature of the question, problem, or issue that is on the floor. We can

inquire into whether or not we have relevant data and information. We can

consider alternative interpretations of the data and information. We can

analyze key concepts and ideas. We can question assumptions being made. We

can ask students to trace out the implications and consequences of what they

are saying. We can consider alternative points of view. All of these, and

more, are the proper focus of the Socratic questioner.



As a tactic and approach, Socratic questioning is a highly disciplined

process. The Socratic questioner acts as the logical equivalent of the inner

critical voice which the mind develops when it develops critical thinking

abilities. The contributions from the members of the class are like so many

thoughts in the mind. All of the thoughts must be dealt with and they must

be dealt with carefully and fairly. By following up all answers with further

questions, and by selecting questions which advance the discussion, the

Socratic questioner forces the class to think in a disciplined,

intellectually responsible manner, while yet continually aiding the students

by posing facilitating questions.



A Socratic questioner should:

a) keep the discussion focused

b) keep the discussion intellectually responsible

c) stimulate the discussion with probing questions

d) periodically summarize what has and what has not been dealt with and/or

resolved

e) draw as many students as possible into the discussion.


Thanks for the lesson and thanks YET AGAIN for no answer. I have to take myself off this thread. You clearly already stated how you feel, and are now dodging the question by posting everything but a proper response. Good bye guys.
 
Ghosting said:
Troll or not, he still asked a valid question. Ok, Im no troll, have the same question, and I dont have multiple user names. Can I get a response?


No because is was a cheap tactic to start problems and from the looks of it it worked there is no real answer to this question do you want him to say YES, Did he not show how he feels about it buy not giving into the trap.

You have a pretty little supporter logo but i have my suspicions about your true intentions
 
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The BTC Killer said:
I'm saying DLD is bigger than DLD.

The BTC Killer said:
...DLD, I support you no matter what...


Ya, I can see that.:s Insert foot in mouth and then try to explain yourself. Just for the record Im not a DLD "hater" or think any of this is a scam. The guy had a valid point (Im not even going to call it a question) and it was immediately deflected. Now i'll remove myself.

Oh god, I just saw Nicos response. If I say anything, then I am a wolf in sheeps clothing. You are one sad little groupie. Good God, I cant believe you even suggested that. That was pathetic.
 
All of the DLD culties are sure going to look like a bunch of clowns if the Alpha Blade hype goes on much longer without something pretty damn impressive being released.
 
Mike Oxlong said:
All of the DLD culties are sure going to look like a bunch of clowns if the Alpha Blade hype goes on much longer without something pretty damn impressive being released.

Yaa, I know right
 
Mike Oxlong said:
All of the DLD culties are sure going to look like a bunch of clowns if the Alpha Blade hype goes on much longer without something pretty damn impressive being released.

I know I'll just crawl up in my little corner and die for sure. Gawd forbid Alpha Blade didnt happen...oh man, the end is nigh!
 
I suspect that AlphaBlade has nothing much to do with glass shards in the arm. Why not wait and see how this plays out, instead of wasting bandwith with any more of these silly emails? Nothing is being gained, here. We need to get back to business.

The idea of this forum is to help each other out and give and get encouragement, because the road is long and hard, in most cases. It takes a lot of drive, diligence, and determination, and there are a lot of roadbocks along the way. '

DLD started this because he knew, long before you came along, that you'd need the kind of help that you could get in a forum. He didn't limit the bandwidth, either, and that costs him a lot of dough. You can post any number of pics here, and he doesn't charge you a cent for it.

And I seem to sense that some of us forget the basics and start pointing fingers, or at least, we tend to do that, while leaving ourselves a little escape room at the same time. You know, that isn't a very honest trait. DLD is an honest guy, and he isn't greedy, so I think we ought to give HIM the credit this time, and just wait. He's laid up, right now. Don't worry, I have never met him, but I've read enough to know for sure that he's going to clarify it all, when he's able to do it.

He's taking care of us the best way he knows how, and he's being more than generous. So why not think about it from his point of view? What would you do in his shoes? He's helping us. He's never given us any reason to distrust him. Why don't we help him out? maybe not eve3rybody is Marine material, but we can take a page from their manual now and then.
 
Formysweetie said:
I suspect that AlphaBlade has nothing much to do with glass shards in the arm. Why not wait and see how this plays out, instead of wasting bandwith with any more of these silly emails? Nothing is being gained, here. We need to get back to business.

The idea of this forum is to help each other out and give and get encouragement, because the road is long and hard, in most cases. It takes a lot of drive, diligence, and determination, and there are a lot of roadbocks along the way. '

DLD started this because he knew, long before you came along, that you'd need the kind of help that you could get in a forum. He didn't limit the bandwidth, either, and that costs him a lot of dough. You can post any number of pics here, and he doesn't charge you a cent for it.

And I seem to sense that some of us forget the basics and start pointing fingers, or at least, we tend to do that, while leaving ourselves a little escape room at the same time. You know, that isn't a very honest trait. DLD is an honest guy, and he isn't greedy, so I think we ought to give HIM the credit this time, and just wait. He's laid up, right now. Don't worry, I have never met him, but I've read enough to know for sure that he's going to clarify it all, when he's able to do it.

He's taking care of us the best way he knows how, and he's being more than generous. So why not think about it from his point of view? What would you do in his shoes? He's helping us. He's never given us any reason to distrust him. Why don't we help him out? maybe not eve3rybody is Marine material, but we can take a page from their manual now and then.


Well said!! The wisdom of maturity shines through.
 
endokrin said:
Which would mean you support him even if this whole Alpha Blade thing is a scam, etc. Even if he came out and admitted the setbacks were false... By your own admission, you would still support him.


Wow.

People are making way more out of all this than needs to be. This has been blown way out of proportion.

First, I do believe that DLD was hurt, especially since SWM vouched for the story and I have a lot of respect for him. Second, to be totally honest, I not not what you would call super-hyped about Alpha Blade. Sure, I'll check the stuff out and may purchase some of the products, because I keep an open mind about being able to further my knowledge from many different places. However, I as an individual am an extreme rationalist in many ways and I'm not a postive thinking/mind over matter kind of person and it seems as though that is a key component of AB from what I'm speculating. And I'm not knocking the positive thinking either, as I know many people have completely changed their lives from a change of thinking. I'm just pointing that out to say I'm not here with the mentality of defend AB at all costs. It is whatever it is, and I don't know exactly what that is.

Hypothetically, so what if DLD actually did completely fabricate this injury? What if for some reason he ultimate would decide to scrap AB altogether? Well, the first scenario would be a poor error in judgment and the second scenario would be a major disappointment. What does that mean? The man is a total scammer, crook, thoroughly discredited, etc.? No, to me it means he made a mistake or a serious misjudgment of what he could get done, realistically. I wouldn't sugarcoat it, but I wouldn't throw the guy to the wolves either. Does that invalidate everything else the guy has done, including helping me put about another inch on my cock? No, this forum has been awesome for me. Does that mean he really owes anything to anyone? No, he's human and mistakes can be expected out of him, like all of us. I'd be willing to bet that most of DLD's strongest critics (not necessarily on this thread, but in general) never joined his paysite, purchased any [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] product, or donated anything, and some people here act as if the guy has an obligation to fall on his sword at your every demand.

I know DLD is not a divine entity that can meet the expectations of everyone. Yes, sometimes he gets backed up and is slow to answer his PMs. Sometimes things like Power Assists get behind on their production runs and haven't been available when anticipated in the past. I think it stems from a natural optimism that is a strong part of Mike's personality. Maybe he does sometimes think he can get more done than he is able to do. Mike treats this is more of a passion than a business, it seems to me. Surely, most of DLD's critics have no idea what it is like for one guy to try and maintain all this while trying to develop new stuff.

Whether Alpha Blade was intended to come out on 1-1-06, 1-16-06, or gets pushed back to 8-1-06 for whatever reason has nothing to do with what Mike has done to this point and his core expertise to this point, which has always been Penis Enlargement.

This either/or mentality that some seem to be showing that a person is either a "DLD cultie" or must acknowledge DLD to be a scam is stupid. How bout just being sensible and looking at things for what they are. Shit happens, no matter how big or small and where it came from.
 
penguinsfan said:
Hypothetically, so what if DLD actually did completely fabricate this injury? What if for some reason he ultimate would decide to scrap AB altogether? Well, the first scenario would be a poor error in judgment and the second scenario would be a major disappointment. What does that mean? The man is a total scammer, crook, thoroughly discredited, etc.? No, to me it means he made a mistake or a serious misjudgment of what he could get done, realistically.
This is where I and a lot of others would disagree. If he doesn't release AB then that would mean that all the hype surrounding it was all a total load of crap and that he lied just to get publicity. Besides, he claimed to have been putting th finishing touches on it a long time ago so it was more than just a misjudgement in timeframe.
 
Do you all really care that much whether alpha blade is released last week or in 2 months time? I couldn't care less to be honest. I'll live.
 
Mike Oxlong said:
This is where I and a lot of others would disagree. If he doesn't release AB then that would mean that all the hype surrounding it was all a total load of crap and that he lied just to get publicity. Besides, he claimed to have been putting th finishing touches on it a long time ago so it was more than just a misjudgement in timeframe.

Have you ever worked on deadlines? Sometimes to meet them you have to lower the standard becouse time just-isn´t-enough. Being more of the obsessive type, I don´t think Mike would release AB until it is exactly like the mental picture he has of it, whatever that is.

You may like or not like AB, and you may believe or not about his injury. But [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] doesn´t need further publicity, you guys at Th*nd3rs do a fine job at that with all your hate threads.
 
Look guys, as the guy who started this thread let me add 2 more cents to it....


First all, if my memory isn't correct, I hope Nico will step in and correct me...

Nico called me one night and said...

"Kook man...DLD has been hurt. His arm is all fucked up. We're not going to be able to get AB out until we get him well...could you make a post and let everyone know?"


(me) "Yeah man sure no problem...is he ok? Does he need anything? How serious is this?"

(nico)" We don't really know everything yet but he could be in serious trouble. I'll holler later when I find out more. I have his cell so if you need to get me you can call his number"

(me) "alright man...take care and tell him I am thinking about him and hope he is ok"



That is about how I remember it and I am sure that it isn't word for word. I take full responsibility for making it seem like AB was more important than Mike. I just didn't what to go into to much about his injuries because at the time I didn't know to much as well but I did want it to come across that there was hope he would be ok.

So, you guys can blame this whole mess on your friendly neighborhodd kookmeister for all the misunderstandings.

Actually, I normally talk to Mike at least once a week and I haven't talked to him in awhile. I did talk to Nico and he said things were getting better.

I made this thread to let everyone know that AB would be delayed...end of story. I don't think this thread should be for the purpose of questioning DLD's legitimacy, AB, or DLD intent. Maybe you guys could start another thread for that debate and leave this one to updates on AB/Mike's condition.

Thanks,
kook
 
This is true

But about the title i read the whole post to mike and he liked the title like that better anyway so it's all good.
 
Mike Oxlong said:
This is where I and a lot of others would disagree. If he doesn't release AB then that would mean that all the hype surrounding it was all a total load of crap and that he lied just to get publicity. Besides, he claimed to have been putting th finishing touches on it a long time ago so it was more than just a misjudgement in timeframe.

And I understand that feeling, but I just don't think it's valid. As an entrepreneurial minded individual by nature, I can think of several projects I have honestly intended to launch and just never did, mostly because I just couldn't get it right or good enough in my mind. I'm talking about things I told numerous people I know some details about and even projects I spent money on investing in computers or other equipment. What I am pointing out is that if for some reason DLD never does end up launching AB then it probably means he just got in over his head in a large project. I can only imagine him (being OCD) consumed by trying to make details perfect and getting frustrated, burned out, and discouraged...because I've been there myself.

And of course my above statements hinge only on the possibility that DLD has faked his injury and has AB nowhere near ready to launch. I don't happen to think that is the case.
 
penguinsfan said:
And I understand that feeling, but I just don't think it's valid. As an entrepreneurial minded individual by nature, I can think of several projects I have honestly intended to launch and just never did, mostly because I just couldn't get it right or good enough in my mind. I'm talking about things I told numerous people I know some details about and even projects I spent money on investing in computers or other equipment. What I am pointing out is that if for some reason DLD never does end up launching AB then it probably means he just got in over his head in a large project. I can only imagine him (being OCD) consumed by trying to make details perfect and getting frustrated, burned out, and discouraged...because I've been there myself.

And of course my above statements hinge only on the possibility that DLD has faked his injury and has AB nowhere near ready to launch. I don't happen to think that is the case.


thats a stupid comparison for a start btw.
did u go advertising about how you were going to release those products before you did? I think not.....
This project has been set back by an injury but to make a similie from that is absurd.
 
jubei said:
thats a stupid comparison for a start btw.
did u go advertising about how you were going to release those products before you did? I think not.....
This project has been set back by an injury but to make a similie from that is absurd.

That is true, but what I was thinking when I wrote my earlier stuff is DLD views this as a passion more than a business. The business line of thinking would be to keep things ultra-secretive and not annouce something until it is basically done, except for packaging, editing, or some other last minute function. I suspect that DLD feels a bond with so many here that he shares his ideas and plans at earlier stages than he perhaps should, again purely from a business standpoint. From knowing myself and businesspeople I have dealt with, I think I would have done things a little differently just being a person that thinks a little different than DLD. My whole point is that none of this should change what kind of person we view him as. And I too believe the project was setback by injury, but I'm just trying to calm the ridiculous commentary some have had on this matter.
 
Don't you guys have a real life ?
Why bitch so much about an internet site not being launched on time? Get back to Penis Enlargement or if you need somebody to tell you what to do with your life ask Jesus or Buddha or anybody else.
 
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