My m8s 16 turning 17 soon, and he has just begun a course of anabolic steroids testosterone and will within a month be starting a course of Human Growth Hormone. Is it likely that this will aid the development of his penis? Would it aid any Penis Enlargement efforts he might undertake, perhaps using the chemical Penis Enlargement method descibed in these forums, where a vasolidator is used regulary with a potnesiator PABA which he is also about to use to treat an injury on his penis. Would regular sex be a good thing? He has a grilfriend of almost a year and has potensial to have sex as often as he wants. Or would some restright be needed to allow any penis gorwth to take place?

He is also going to be taking durgs to lower his prolactin and estorgen levels, the cabergoline should privde an almost zero refractory time after ejaculation(damn his girls gonna be sore) and the arimidex should prevent any bone plate fusal thus this cycle of drugs will improove his adult hieght quite dramtically is he cycle the gorwth hormone for long enuough.

What are your thoughts on his effort?
 
Is he under a physician's care? If not he WILL wind up in serious trouble. This is not creatine, it is VERY serious. There's no real way to tell what it will do to his development because there isn't much info on it. There WILL be changes but whether they are positive or negative remains to be seen. You should do your best to talk him out of it if this is self-medication.
 
I just hope he knows what he is doing. If he is trying to grow his penis by taking steroids he is nuts. If he is doing it to gain mass, I hope he eats right and trains like an animal or his gains will disapear faster than they appeared when he cycles off.
 
He is a bodybuilder however, only been training 1 year and yes he is under doctor supervision, by an endocrinologist. Does anyone know enough about biology/physiology to tell me if these drugs will aid Penis Enlargement effort, if so, i woulld advise him, with whatever advise you guys can give me. Perhaps popping a viagra b4 he goes bed, this might mimic the actions of naturla penis gorwth, where a series of strogn erections promote rmapants gorwth and him being at an adolescent age with pubertal hormones artificially enhanced to inhuman levels, woulding popping viagra do any damage.
Another question if regualr adoloescent kids where to take a lil viagra b4 bed would it perhaps trigger growth?
 
I find it a little odd that you seem to know so much about this "m8" of yours. Are you his "Penis Enlargement Coach" too? ?:(
 
I caught him at it lol, i was like bruv whats that fing hangin off your dick?
in any case dlds gotta be around, what ya fink big D?
 
It may help him with Penis Enlargement... since he's still growing the hormones can definitely potentiate gains from manual Penis Enlargement. He's under a doctor's care so if his endocrine system gets screwed up, it's on the doctor...
 
Dude, wtf ??!!

I have spent years researching AAS sides and i must say i'm quite informed at a deep level on steroid health impact on Humans.

The first thing that will happen to "your friend" is his bone plates will shut down and he will no longer grow in height. Not even mentioning liver toxins, kidney impairment, heart growth ( BAD ), jaundice, Carpet tunnel syndrome, abnormal bone formation and irregular bone growth as in the jaw, elbows, fingers etc all growing unevenly and deforming the body just from the growth hormone alone. T-cells die ( they protect us from cancer ) etc etc etc and this is just a bit of the trouble you/he/anyone might find ahead.

I am NOT AGAINST AAS, i plan on using them myself some time but i will never agree to a person who isn't even finished growing ( tall wise ) to take them. That is certainly bad news if he goes ahead with it. Please tell him to do some research on growth hormone and testosterone supplementation side effects and he will see for himself how he will pay dearly with his own health by taking this "shortcut".

To start with he will have a very hard time gaining muscle naturaly after he starts on steroids. There is no way back once you go "in" the chemical road.

Peace

Mike
 
I have much to add (post it later today) as my son is just hitting puberty and I have been researching a lot of information around this topic.
 
What would someone say to that: fearing his son might have growth inhibited potentioal, cuz his dad was small framed. At what age would you introduce HGH, as a sure plan that, he would grow, where his father lacked. ?:(
 
8InchMIKE said:
Dude, wtf ??!!

I have spent years researching AAS sides and i must say i'm quite informed at a deep level on steroid health impact on Humans.

The first thing that will happen to "your friend" is his bone plates will shut down and he will no longer grow in height. Not even mentioning liver toxins, kidney impairment, heart growth ( BAD ), jaundice, Carpet tunnel syndrome, abnormal bone formation and irregular bone growth as in the jaw, elbows, fingers etc all growing unevenly and deforming the body just from the growth hormone alone. T-cells die ( they protect us from cancer ) etc etc etc and this is just a bit of the trouble you/he/anyone might find ahead.

I am NOT AGAINST AAS, i plan on using them myself some time but i will never agree to a person who isn't even finished growing ( tall wise ) to take them. That is certainly bad news if he goes ahead with it. Please tell him to do some research on growth hormone and testosterone supplementation side effects and he will see for himself how he will pay dearly with his own health by taking this "shortcut".

To start with he will have a very hard time gaining muscle naturaly after he starts on steroids. There is no way back once you go "in" the chemical road.

Peace

Mike
The sides that you list are all possible but in most cases do not exert themselves (i've known enough high school athletes on steroids). I agree that the guy is way too young to be injecting hormoes into his body but HE IS UNDER A DOCTOR'S CARE. As far as bone plates closing... that is due to estrogen and the guy will be taking an aromatase inhibitor so i doubt that his growth plates will close down real quick.
 
blackice said:
What would someone say to that: fearing his son might have growth inhibited potentioal, cuz his dad was small framed. At what age would you introduce HGH, as a sure plan that, he would grow, where his father lacked. ?:(

To difficult to determine, at this point, as far as science is concerned. Genetic engineering in living things, a process that now only exists pre-birth, would be the only possible way to correct or change things like bone structure, height, hair color, eyes color, sex, etc. After birth, although there are ways to change our bodies on a small scale (ie, penis size, muscle mass even dying your hair) can not change the make up of our DNA. Someday, maybe, but some would see that as playing God...the very thing that inhibits scientific progress.
 
na I'm not so worried about height, I will always look like a kid, but to be honest the size of my hands dude! I seriously g-fucked in this department, in some of my classes, a majority of the girls hands are mysize, some even bigger. We all know how important that shit is for girls, but to be truthful, It really doesn't bothr me that much, I would be fearfull to have a kid and know his hands are gonna be smaller than mine, if thats the case.... I probably shouldn't have kids. To bad theirs not a way to make them bigger, ya heard! To be honest, I know about growth hormones, by that time, its science. It's just to bad for me!
 
blackice said:
na I'm not so worried about height, I will always look like a kid, but to be honest the size of my hands dude! I seriously g-fucked in this department, in some of my classes, a majority of the girls hands are mysize, some even bigger. We all know how important that shit is for girls, but to be truthful, It really doesn't bothr me that much, I would be fearfull to have a kid and know his hands are gonna be smaller than mine, if thats the case.... I probably shouldn't have kids. To bad theirs not a way to make them bigger, ya heard! To be honest, I know about growth hormones, by that time, its science. It's just to bad for me!
That's a ridiculous limiting belief. I have really small hands, too, and it doesn't affect my life at all. I pull hot girls all the time and I don't think my hands have gotten any attention in my entire life.
 
smileyguy said:
My m8s 16 turning 17 soon, and he has just begun a course of anabolic steroids testosterone and will within a month be starting a course of Human Growth Hormone. Is it likely that this will aid the development of his penis? Would it aid any Penis Enlargement efforts he might undertake, perhaps using the chemical Penis Enlargement method descibed in these forums, where a vasolidator is used regulary with a potnesiator PABA which he is also about to use to treat an injury on his penis. Would regular sex be a good thing? He has a grilfriend of almost a year and has potensial to have sex as often as he wants. Or would some restright be needed to allow any penis gorwth to take place?

He is also going to be taking durgs to lower his prolactin and estorgen levels, the cabergoline should privde an almost zero refractory time after ejaculation(damn his girls gonna be sore) and the arimidex should prevent any bone plate fusal thus this cycle of drugs will improove his adult hieght quite dramtically is he cycle the gorwth hormone for long enuough.

What are your thoughts on his effort?

I was wondering if Pe exercises limit natural potnesial growth, if sothen maybe it's best to see what growth can be achived with the hgh and test then cycle again using pe exercises? But is regualr sex good for penis growth? If you prolong orgasm regularily?
 
sikdogg said:
The sides that you list are all possible but in most cases do not exert themselves (i've known enough high school athletes on steroids). I agree that the guy is way too young to be injecting hormoes into his body but HE IS UNDER A DOCTOR'S CARE. As far as bone plates closing... that is due to estrogen and the guy will be taking an aromatase inhibitor so i doubt that his growth plates will close down real quick.

Look sikdog i know what you are trying to say here, i find steroids safe when used properly, the problem is that MOST DUDES DO NOT DO IT PROPenis EnlargementRLY.
We all know ower share of kids that have done this stupid thing or that stupid thing. I just can't help to feel that the even the tinyest of possibilities that these effects do exert themselves is enought to raise a red flag on some kid injecting HGH and AAS into his body hopping nothing goes wrong. Would you advise it to a family member of yours with a clear conscience?

Winny was removed from the Brasilien market after some doc prescribed it to a 8yo kid who stoped growing and will never ever grow again cause the bone plates shut down. It is banned still. One in a million? yes. Could it be your kid? also yes.

I'm no priest and no saint but kids??!!! Please stay away...

P.s. Doctor or no doctor, i stand by this. Doctors don't know the very first thing when it comes to steroids, growth hormones and dyuretics and other stuff applied to muscle hypertrophy or shedding fat. My own father is an MD and he DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE how the whole thing works. Granted it's not his area of expertize but in all those years studying he had a 6 month course on AAS in almost 16 years of med school.

Peace

Mike
 
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I find it hard to believe that you could find a doctor who would be willing to monitor a 16 year old boy taking aas/growth for bodybuilding purposes.
 
prince Albert said:
I find it hard to believe that you could find a doctor who would be willing to monitor a 16 year old boy taking aas/growth for bodybuilding purposes.

Word...

Only two cases that i can think of:

1- Hormone replacement therapy for chemical inbalances.
2- Muscle wasting desiese of some kind.
 
This guy has to be a troll. No one should use steroids unless they are least 21 years old and have been working out for years and is over 200 lbs. HGH should only be used for people with dwarf syndrome. I'm sure this person doesn't know anything about steroids or proper PCT. Stop what you're doing now.
 
8InchMIKE said:
Look sikdog i know what you are trying to say here, i find steroids safe when used properly, the problem is that MOST DUDES DO NOT DO IT PROPenis EnlargementRLY.
We all know ower share of kids that have done this stupid thing or that stupid thing. I just can't help to feel that the even the tinyest of possibilities that these effects do exert themselves is enought to raise a red flag on some kid injecting HGH and AAS into his body hopping nothing goes wrong. Would you advise it to a family member of yours with a clear conscience?

Winny was removed from the Brasilien market after some doc prescribed it to a 8yo kid who stoped growing and will never ever grow again cause the bone plates shut down. It is banned still. One in a million? yes. Could it be your kid? also yes.

I'm no priest and no saint but kids??!!! Please stay away...

P.s. Doctor or no doctor, i stand by this. Doctors don't know the very first thing when it comes to steroids, growth hormones and dyuretics and other stuff applied to muscle hypertrophy or shedding fat. My own father is an MD and he DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE how the whole thing works. Granted it's not his area of expertize but in all those years studying he had a 6 month course on AAS in almost 16 years of med school.

Peace

Mike

real words of wisdom there!

i have to agree with you. i am not a roid hater or anything. but young inexpierence men taking aas without correct knowledge of cycles and post therapy cycle. ie your novalex etc to help increase natural test again is just plain daft.

im only 19 and the use of aas has been sitting at the back of my mind, i have done no research so until i research and i mean years of research i will never consider it.
 
8InchMIKE said:
Look sikdog i know what you are trying to say here, i find steroids safe when used properly, the problem is that MOST DUDES DO NOT DO IT PROPenis EnlargementRLY.
We all know ower share of kids that have done this stupid thing or that stupid thing. I just can't help to feel that the even the tinyest of possibilities that these effects do exert themselves is enought to raise a red flag on some kid injecting HGH and AAS into his body hopping nothing goes wrong. Would you advise it to a family member of yours with a clear conscience?

Winny was removed from the Brasilien market after some doc prescribed it to a 8yo kid who stoped growing and will never ever grow again cause the bone plates shut down. It is banned still. One in a million? yes. Could it be your kid? also yes.

I'm no priest and no saint but kids??!!! Please stay away...

P.s. Doctor or no doctor, i stand by this. Doctors don't know the very first thing when it comes to steroids, growth hormones and dyuretics and other stuff applied to muscle hypertrophy or shedding fat. My own father is an MD and he DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE how the whole thing works. Granted it's not his area of expertize but in all those years studying he had a 6 month course on AAS in almost 16 years of med school.

Peace

Mike
Hey you're preaching to the choir... i agree with you and would never condone the use of AAS on minors, but your argument is moot because if the first post is true... it's going to happen whether we agree with it or not. My point was that at least he is doing it under a doctor's supervision. If the doctor knows anything about steroid use, he can make adjustments to the kid's doses as i'm sure he'll be doing regular bloodwork.
 
Painful Pleasur said:
This guy has to be a troll. No one should use steroids unless they are least 21 years old and have been working out for years and is over 200 lbs. HGH should only be used for people with dwarf syndrome. I'm sure this person doesn't know anything about steroids or proper PCT. Stop what you're doing now.

How did you come to the figure of 200lb? the best top TRUE natural bodybuilders only compete at around 150-170lb frank zane who you said you would like to look like in another thread was a steroid user and off season was only around 200lb and competed at 175lb,i can name you dozens of champion bbs that are 200 or less pounds.not having a dig it just doesn't make sense to start throwing figures about like you have.
 
smileyguy said:
I was wondering if Pe exercises limit natural potnesial growth, if sothen maybe it's best to see what growth can be achived with the hgh and test then cycle again using pe exercises? But is regualr sex good for penis growth? If you prolong orgasm regularily?

And the doctor thing, it's a simple obligation. My friend had low T they ignored it so he took things into his own hands....
 
Sounds dangerous shit 2 me. Personally, why would he want 2 look like the hulk anyway. Everyone 2 themselves and all that, but it's not worth it. And man, where ur dick is concerned, u can get a big "enough" penis through Penis Enlargement and Jelqs and stuff like that alone within one to two years. I've got a pretty thick 7inch and that hurts my girlfriend sometimes. I've had sex with girls who are tiny in my pre pe days, who wud see what I have now as big. Entry level pornstars have thick 7 inchers.

All I'm tryin 2 say is, it's not a race. I think that gettin involved in takin Testoreone or whateva seems a proper harsh thing 2 do anyway at whateva age. At least wait till ur 21 or whateva, and begin ur research now. Who knows what they'll know about Testoreone by then.

And also by then how big will ur muscles and penis be?
Seriously stop worryin about gettin big so FAST and shit like that. It's a bonus been big, I'm happy wiv my 7" and want 2 make it 8" I think. Dunno how long that will take, but I'm definately not riskin destoryin myself on chemicals. It's a proven fact that people with higher testoreone die younger as well.

Everything is up 2 u ur friend whateva. But seriously chill it I rekon.
 
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