Active extending vs Hanging in terms of safety.

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Ok I'm calling it: Using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] beyond it's limits is a safer way to stretch than hanging weights.

My reasoning is that an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is far more controlled and it's an incremental application of force compared to a free hanging weight.

When you extend an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] past the point where the springs disengage, you're using just the mechanics of the screws being wound out, so what you're doing is applying a heavy, controlled force over a very short distance, absolutely no way to accidentally over-stretch...
 
MaxRichards;698203 said:
Ok I'm calling it: Using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] beyond it's limits is a safer way to stretch than hanging weights.

My reasoning is that an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is far more controlled and it's an incremental application of force compared to a free hanging weight.

When you extend an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] past the point where the springs disengage, you're using just the mechanics of the screws being wound out, so what you're doing is applying a heavy, controlled force over a very short distance, absolutely no way to accidentally over-stretch...
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As a hanger-I agree.Hanging can be dangerous.Main reason is the shills who claim they hang "20+ pounds" a day for 4+ hours. That's all bullshit.

Hanging is tough on the penis and when you get 10+pounds you are in some real hardcore territory.

Put it this way: An [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] can give max. 6.5 pounds of pressure. For a hanger that is nothing.
 
deadwood187;698214 said:
Put it this way: An [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] can give max. 6.5 pounds of pressure. For a hanger that is nothing.
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Is that with the springs engaged?

How would I go about measuring the force beyond that? (When you over extend the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] until the screw threads are showing at the base)
 
MaxRichards;698227 said:
Is that with the springs engaged?

How would I go about measuring the force beyond that? (When you over extend the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] until the screw threads are showing at the base)
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Some dude measured a few [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] with a device that gives you how many pounds it's exerting on your penis. The max. he measured was 6.6 pounds. But most were around 5-6 pounds at highest setting. I have the thread saved , I have to find it for you.
 
MaxRichards;698203 said:
Ok I'm calling it: Using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] beyond it's limits is a safer way to stretch than hanging weights.

My reasoning is that an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is far more controlled and it's an incremental application of force compared to a free hanging weight.

When you extend an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] past the point where the springs disengage, you're using just the mechanics of the screws being wound out, so what you're doing is applying a heavy, controlled force over a very short distance, absolutely no way to accidentally over-stretch...
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Comparing the force of a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to a hanger at how many pounds do you believe the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] can exert?
 
I have always thought that being under high stress for long periods brings length gains faster than using heavy weights for short periods. I think the combination of the two would be best, as it would cover short and long term length work.
 
kyomoto;698250 said:
Comparing the force of a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to a hanger at how many pounds do you believe the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] can exert?
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I don't know... and I also don't think it matters *too* much because once you reach the absolute maximum distance on your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], it's usually time to add bars and start the process again.

I have been doing just this and found that it's about a 3-4 week gains cycle. You get to a plateau which I believe is a healing/consolidation phase and then BAM, you push the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] even further, add bars then repeat the process.

In theory it's just like adding more weight to get more stretch... but safely, in a controlled manner.

With hanging, I'd say you're relying *purely* on more weight to get more stretch
 
deadwood187;698234 said:
Some dude measured a few [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] with a device that gives you how many pounds it's exerting on your penis. The max. he measured was 6.6 pounds. But most were around 5-6 pounds at highest setting. I have the thread saved , I have to find it for you.
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That would be awesome, would love to see how he measured them and whether he was measuring the spring tension or the mechanical stretch, beyond spring tension...
 
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MaxRichards;698290 said:
I don't know... and I also don't think it matters *too* much because once you reach the absolute maximum distance on your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], it's usually time to add bars and start the process again.

I have been doing just this and found that it's about a 3-4 week gains cycle. You get to a plateau which I believe is a healing/consolidation phase and then BAM, you push the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] even further, add bars then repeat the process.

In theory it's just like adding more weight to get more stretch... but safely, in a controlled manner.

With hanging, I'd say you're relying *purely* on more weight to get more stretch
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Oh okay. And which would you say is easier.

For an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], is it the same method of getting the penis ready for a hanger? because I cant hang since my glands are too small. Do you think i'd have trouble with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] too?
 
kyomoto;698308 said:
Oh okay. And which would you say is easier.

For an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], is it the same method of getting the penis ready for a hanger? because I cant hang since my glands are too small. Do you think i'd have trouble with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] too?
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You would be fine in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] or the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] as you can adjust to any size. The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] makes it very possible for everyone to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is also a good choice as the adjustments can be made by you in many ways. Much of hanging, extending, LengthMasytering all depend greatly on wrapping, when this is mastered everything falls into place.
 
doublelongdaddy;698406 said:
You would be fine in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] or the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] as you can adjust to any size. The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] makes it very possible for everyone to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is also a good choice as the adjustments can be made by you in many ways. Much of hanging, extending, LengthMasytering all depend greatly on wrapping, when this is mastered everything falls into place.
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oh okay. would u say [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are just as effective as [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] if using extension for great periods at long durations
 
Kyomoto, can we keep this thread on topic please?

Apologies if you're wanting to discuss using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] in hanging mode, but that's just hanging anyway, the device is irrelevant.

We're talking controlled extension using mechanical force vs free heavyweight hanging using gravity and the safety vs effectiveness of both.

Manual stretching (with hands or a device like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]) is another subject entirely and is something I do as a warmup pre-extendering.
 
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MaxRichards;698430 said:
Kyomoto, can we keep this thread on topic please?

Apologies if you're wanting to discuss using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] in hanging mode, but that's just hanging anyway, the device is irrelevant.

We're talking controlled extension using mechanical force vs free heavyweight hanging using gravity and the safety vs effectiveness of both.

Manual stretching (with hands or a device like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]) is another subject entirely and is something I do as a warmup pre-extendering.
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They're the same to me for hanging, I never spoke about stretching manually, I've only asked what force would the difference in any hanger be in comparison to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. whatever the case my question was answered. Sorry for interrupting your thread.

Aside from that I think [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are safer.
 
So, assuming proper conditioning with hanging as a guy moves up in weight slowly over time, at what weight does hanging suddenly, become "more" dangerous? I have gone as high as 35-37 pounds for testing purposes. When I was actively hanging, my weight range was 22-27 pounds usually depending on the day, tissue fatigue, attachment point soreness, to name a few. To me, anything below 15 pounds felt like next to nothing and I could actually walk around the room easily with that weight level. I am just playing Devils advocate here.

Is the point to simply state the obvious; that a guy with no guidance, or instruction who jumps into hanging will be more likely to injure himself?
 
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stillwantmore2;698447 said:
So, assuming proper conditioning with hanging as a guy moves up in weight slowly over time, at what weight does hanging suddenly, become "more" dangerous? I have gone as high as 35-37 pounds for testing purposes. When I was actively hanging, my weight range was 22-27 pounds usually depending on the day, tissue fatigue, attachment point soreness, to name a few. To me, anything below 15 pounds felt like next to nothing and I could actually walk around the room easily with that weight level. I am just playing Devils advocate here.

Is the point to simply state the obvious; that a guy with no guidance, or instruction who jumps into hanging will be more likely to injure himself?
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35 or 37? Which one is it?

I am skeptical of both numbers. I highly doubt 99% of men out there can do 20 minute sets at those numbers. Yeah yeah we all bench 500 pounds and drive Fererris online.

Those are crazy numbers. Someone is gong to get permanently hurt with this kind of nonsense.
 
stillwantmore2;698447 said:
So, assuming proper conditioning with hanging as a guy moves up in weight slowly over time, at what weight does hanging suddenly, become "more" dangerous? I have gone as high as 35-37 pounds for testing purposes. When I was actively hanging, my weight range was 22-27 pounds usually depending on the day, tissue fatigue, attachment point soreness, to name a few. To me, anything below 15 pounds felt like next to nothing and I could actually walk around the room easily with that weight level. I am just playing Devils advocate here.

Is the point to simply state the obvious; that a guy with no guidance, or instruction who jumps into hanging will be more likely to injure himself?
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I feel the point after 15lbs is a great one in which gains are made. They can be dangerous if not cautious with wrapping etc. I've seen videos of guys hanging over 50lbs
 
deadwood187;698463 said:
35 or 37? Which one is it?

I am skeptical of both numbers. I highly doubt 99% of men out there can do 20 minute sets at those numbers. Yeah yeah we all bench 500 pounds and drive Fererris online.

Those are crazy numbers. Someone is gong to get permanently hurt with this kind of nonsense.
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Read again for testing. 35-37. Pretty simple,the dash means 'to'. A few minutes, for testing of my new hanger prototype. I am not trying to impress you or anyone. DLD has gone a lot heavier. If someone is stupid enough to jump right to any heavy weight, their problem.
 
kyomoto;698464 said:
I feel the point after 15lbs is a great one in which gains are made. They can be dangerous if not cautious with wrapping etc. I've seen videos of guys hanging over 50lbs
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Do you have a link?

I would like to see that.
 
stillwantmore2;698470 said:
Read again for testing. 35-37. Pretty simple,the dash means 'to'. A few minutes, for testing of my new hanger prototype. I am not trying to impress you or anyone. DLD has gone a lot heavier. If someone is stupid enough to jump right to any heavy weight, their problem.
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Yadda ...Yadda...Yadda..

I think after 20 pounds you will become the Karamajong- nice long dick....also totally non functional.

Anyone can work their way up to dangerous and ridiculous weights.......however, most of us want a functional penis.
 
deadwood187;698475 said:
Yadda ...Yadda...Yadda..

I think after 20 pounds you will become the Karamajong- nice long dick....also totally non functional.

Anyone can work their way up to dangerous and ridiculous weights.......however, most of us want a functional penis.
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think its this one
[video=youtube;j2RyWFpJR_g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2RyWFpJR_g[/video]
 
This guy will do anything to spam posts. First says after twenty lbs is where the gains are xD then posts two times one minute apart from the other when he didn't have to. But only after telling deadwood to "look it up" when he has the videos on queue. Also look at the pentagram on the wall In that video, this denotes a sacrificial ceremony where they mutilate the penis to please our dark lord *high-five*

I hope its only this guy who is willing to crap up the forums just for the monthly prize. That's not how the competition works
 
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templnite;698480 said:
This guy will do anything to spam posts. First says after twenty lbs is where the gains are xD then posts two times one minute apart from the other when he didn't have to. But only after telling deadwood to "look it up" when he has the videos on queue. Also look at the pentagram on the wall In that video, this denotes a sacrificial ceremony where they mutilate the penis to please our dark lord *high-five*

I hope its only this guy who is willing to crap up the forums just for the monthly prize. That's not how the competition works
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Please let Lightning and I decide who and who is not making appropriate posts, we look very closely at them.
 
I only noticed that maxrichards there wanted to have a good discussion but kyo takes it off topic just for fuck all sake. I know it shouldn't matter but still people who don't have that much time to contribute, can give even less helpful input when distracted by quick crap posts. Nothing good comes of cluttering up the forums for no apparent reason
 
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stillwantmore2;698621 said:
No harm in experimenting.
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Experimentation is what this Brotherhood was built on. If it were not for the men who put themselves at risk to come with new exercises/tools we would not be where we are today. We are ALWAYS on the cutting edge of PE....everyone else is playing catch up.
 
kyomoto;698762 said:
nice! @deadwood187 check this out! do you believe this yet or no
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Never said I don't believe some circus act lifting the weight momentarily and putting it down right away. Even in that vid, if the weights are real since we don't see them, his penis head looks like it's about to explode.

Now let's see the con artist/fraud (and he's a proven verifiable con on numerous boards and his character is beyond suspect so anything coming from him is shady by default) do this for 20 mnutes for 3-10 sets a day. It's ain't happening. Why? It's all a lie . Any idiot who believes these con artist usually ends up with an injury.
Nice fluff post count. What's the prize this month? Allowing fluffers like you to run around a board is usually the last nail in the coffin.
 
stillwantmore2;698765 said:
I look forward to starting again semi soon. Gonna school some peeps.
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You didn't school anyone con artist. Let the tape run for 20 minutes then we talk. u barely got through a minute and you chirp? Ok fraud.

Are we going to con school? Are You are going to teach me how to steal designs and post fake reviews all over? If so, I will concede- you have PhD in that.
 
deadwood187;698769 said:
You didn't school anyone con artist. Let the tape run for 20 minutes then we talk. u barely got through a minute and you chirp? Ok fraud.

Are we going to con school? Are You are going to teach me how to steal designs and post fake reviews all over? If so, I will concede- you have PhD in that.
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Still has all the degrees in that field :D he has a B.S.(bullshit), a M.S. (more of the same), and a PhD ( piled higher, deeper)
 
deadwood187;698769 said:
You didn't school anyone con artist. Let the tape run for 20 minutes then we talk. u barely got through a minute and you chirp? Ok fraud.

Are we going to con school? Are You are going to teach me how to steal designs and post fake reviews all over? If so, I will concede- you have PhD in that.
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You know, I have been holding my tongue, but what the fuck is your problem? If I am a "con", why did you buy my hanger? Seriously what is your deal?
 
On the one side of your face, you say you're open minded, willing to give my hanger a try. I share a video I made a few years ago just to illustrate that yes, 30 pounds can be hung and you run your mouth. You and your buddy Temp can kiss it.

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templnite;698776 said:
Ooohhh this poosey has claws! Oh lets git it on!
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Yea whatever you Internet clown.
 
stillwantmore2;698774 said:
You know, I have been holding my tongue, but what the fuck is your problem? If I am a "con", why did you buy my hanger? Seriously what is your deal?
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I believe this guy to be another skeptic about PE limits. I know for a fact stillwantmore2 has done so much during hanging and I'm aware he's been doing fine so far. So @deadwood187 What other skepticism do you have. If you want to limit your boundaries of what you can achieve then you'll only be affecting yourself. You really think we're lying to you? And for what purpose? Explain please.
 
MaxRichards;698797 said:
Let's get this thread back on topic:

Safety.

Free balling with heavy weights vs controlled force in short increments.
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What? Thought we answered you already. You kind of answered yourself too.
 
kyomoto;698844 said:
What? Thought we answered you already. You kind of answered yourself too.
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Discussions aren't just questions and answers Kyo.

It's about people's actual, real experiences which they can contribute about the topic. Not just rehashing info they've seen on the internet yet haven't put into practice or tested.

I've tested Extendering for a few years and think it's way too slow in terms of progress but it does work safely with the catch that it roughens up your glans a bit.

I haven't had as much experience with hanging (seems dangerous), that's why I want to enter a discussion about it and see what sort of real progress people have made and what injuries they have sustained (not being able to get an erection included).

If you haven't tested either method, please respect the idea behind this thread and refrain from posting.
 
MaxRichards;698904 said:
Discussions aren't just questions and answers Kyo.

It's about people's actual, real experiences which they can contribute about the topic. Not just rehashing info they've seen on the internet yet haven't put into practice or tested.

I've tested Extendering for a few years and think it's way too slow in terms of progress but it does work safely with the catch that it roughens up your glans a bit.

I haven't had as much experience with hanging (seems dangerous), that's why I want to enter a discussion about it and see what sort of real progress people have made and what injuries they have sustained (not being able to get an erection included).

If you haven't tested either method, please respect the idea behind this thread and refrain from posting.
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I mean no disrespect whatsoever.

Well let me give you another thread to try yeah? here you go: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/88332-my-sg-theory-worked.html
You can discuss with him as well and message him to get a better understanding of how he did it when comparing hanging and extending.

Edit: Nvm I saw you post there, but just keep up this thread if you want more discussions or go to other forums as well to get more opinions.
 
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