Tried 20:4 diet?

I don't know how's everyone here going through this diet method for ultra long fasting rather intermittent fasting. My wife and her friends tried this and various other and their weights rebounded and exceeded their old weights by a mile.

Critical keys to know:
Too long of a fast and forcing your body into ketosis from not enough carbs will slowly wear your liver, kidneys, and colon away. Take it from a person that logs medical journals from doers for decades.

Too little carbs to ensure proper brain functions can induce faster onset of Alzheimer's diseases. This is proven.

Too much fats and proteins in the diets long terms can significantly reduce your lifestyles and life functions. If you want to discuss based on medical journal publishing, we can go into details. Same for too much carbs.

It's about a balance diet and the self discipline of an active lifestyle. You body will thank you for it.
 
oldandlively said:
I don't know how's everyone here going through this diet method for ultra long fasting rather intermittent fasting. My wife and her friends tried this and various other and their weights rebounded and exceeded their old weights by a mile.

Critical keys to know:
Too long of a fast and forcing your body into ketosis from not enough carbs will slowly wear your liver, kidneys, and colon away. Take it from a person that logs medical journals from doers for decades.

Too little carbs to ensure proper brain functions can induce faster onset of Alzheimer's diseases. This is proven.

Too much fats and proteins in the diets long terms can significantly reduce your lifestyles and life functions. If you want to discuss based on medical journal publishing, we can go into details. Same for too much carbs.

It's about a balance diet and the self discipline of an active lifestyle. You body will thank you for it.
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This thread are supposed to be about intermittent fasting, and not about starving your body to death. đź’€

I created this thread in order to share what is working (and have been working) for me in regards to changing my body composition. If you look at my first broomstick video, you will see a big strongman belly, you can't see that belly in my newest videos.
I do not react that good to consuming bread. When I eat bread my belly grow. Eating potatoes are much better for my body. I feel better if I reduce my bread intake. But I eat bread sometimes.

I grew over 3 Inches in length (BPEL) with this 20:4 diet. So it's not garbage. I have kept my body in an optimal state for penis growth for over a year now. I have also been able to keep my strength with this diet. But I have to confess that I have lost hand strength now, when I do not use my LengthMaster 3. This diet is still working...I have already grew some substantial amount in girth as well. I do not consume alcohol.

The key is to eat good nutritious food when you are eating, do not eat garbage. This diet is not about starving your body from carbohydrates or
nutrients, you need carbohydrates for your brain power. Neurons ("brain cells") can't store glucose and they need a stable supply of it to work optimally. But there are also other systems in the body that work in order to stabilize the blood sugar. I can go without food for a long time, without becoming tired. I feel more focused when I eat less food during the day.

I eat a lot of carbohydrates, but I do my best to restrict them from not being highly processed.
I probably was not clear about this in the beginning of this thread. When you write it is hard sometimes to cover all angles of a topic, in order to lay it all out so it will not be misinterpreted from others.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
When you write it is hard sometimes to cover all angles of a topic, in order to lay it all out so it will not be misinterpreted from others.
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Exactly just that. When we discuss a topic, it's hard to cover all angles to ensure everyone's comprehension of the methodology, interactions, and results to establish and fulfill a set goal. We have many objectives and milestones along the way, and explain them all can be a pain in the rear. This is why I always use the "If you want to discuss XX, we can go into further details."

Overall, I'm impressed you can carry the method for so long without any internal adverses. My wife and her friends tried the same method for a good 4 months, reached ketosis at multiple points, causing them to go a bit crazy at times, and their cheat days were not helping the entire process as well. They then switched to a 16:8 with practically 2g of carbs, and in less than 2 months, went back to "See foods diet" mode. SMH. If it's working for you and other brothers, I truly encourage it. Why? It mirorrs the hunters' diet back in the ancient days. They eat when they rest after long battles or hunting trips. They gorged on fat-dense foods and sufficient carbs to get them to the next days.
 
oldandlively said:
Exactly just that. When we discuss a topic, it's hard to cover all angles to ensure everyone's comprehension of the methodology, interactions, and results to establish and fulfill a set goal. We have many objectives and milestones along the way, and explain them all can be a pain in the rear. This is why I always use the "If you want to discuss XX, we can go into further details."

Overall, I'm impressed you can carry the method for so long without any internal adverses. My wife and her friends tried the same method for a good 4 months, reached ketosis at multiple points, causing them to go a bit crazy at times, and their cheat days were not helping the entire process as well. They then switched to a 16:8 with practically 2g of carbs, and in less than 2 months, went back to "See foods diet" mode. SMH. If it's working for you and other brothers, I truly encourage it. Why? It mirorrs the hunters' diet back in the ancient days. They eat when they rest after long battles or hunting trips. They gorged on fat-dense foods and sufficient carbs to get them to the next days.
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Thanks for posting this, you validated everything I was saying about discussions, and the problem in describing everything perfectly. We have all our own perception of reality, so it's hard to cover all angles so everything will be interpreted as you intended it to.

Maybe I can do this because of my strict mindset. When I was at my biggest, I only ate to fuel my body (to grow muscles), I didn't eat because it tasted good. The simplest food taste so good to me. My favorite meal are "Blodpudding". But due to the high iron content I do not eat it a lot. But when I do eat it, it's a feast.

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Picure: Blodpudding.

For me, eating meat and animal protein have been important for this diet. I wouldn't be able to survive If I didn't get meat on this diet.
The hunters diet was a good analogy. I also think it helps that I have a occupation where I constantly are on my feet.
We also now only have only 30 minutes of break during work. So time is limited.
 
Ah, blood cake/sausage (aka blodpudding). Used to eat that with soups and stuffed French baguettes. It is very nutritious and definitely an acquired taste. I hear you about shoving down just the nutrients sufficiently for the body to grow. You're following the method used by Momofuku Ando, who practically owned 60% of the world's instant noodles and ate only 1 to 2 meals a day. Each meal consists of 3 tablespoons of ultra-dense, ultra-rich proteins, amino acids, and complex carbs to keep him going for the entire day. To him, it was not about taste. It was about the essentiality of livelihood. He was a few years shy of being a centenarian.

Just like you, I also tried this method, which was achieved and sustainable when I was in survival mode training for 3 decades. I leaned my body way too much, reduced my fat content down to 8%, and packed full of muscles for survival mode functions, causing my body to ache like mad. I eased out now. I am very proud of you for using this method for PE. It's practically Spartan mode. I'm not sure how things function at the molecular and biochemical levels in terms of PE. You also use the MOS Red light therapy, which also sparks various cellular and molecular functions that normal diets and exercises don't work. For those who want to truly test this Spartan process while focusing on PE, we can form an experimental group for MOS. You have the longest experience in PE, while I have a similar experience in survival mode. I hope we can assist others to in achieving their goals while creating a new health-wise revelation method.

My wife is currently testing the full body red light therapy right now using high doses of collagen supplements (like what I normally use) with red light therapy while pulling her away from Botox and poisonous injections. Too many journeys to travel and not enough time and cloned bodies to experience the journey with.
 
oldandlively said:
Ah, blood cake/sausage (aka blodpudding). Used to eat that with soups and stuffed French baguettes. It is very nutritious and definitely an acquired taste. I hear you about shoving down just the nutrients sufficiently for the body to grow. You're following the method used by Momofuku Ando, who practically owned 60% of the world's instant noodles and ate only 1 to 2 meals a day. Each meal consists of 3 tablespoons of ultra-dense, ultra-rich proteins, amino acids, and complex carbs to keep him going for the entire day. To him, it was not about taste. It was about the essentiality of livelihood. He was a few years shy of being a centenarian.

Just like you, I also tried this method, which was achieved and sustainable when I was in survival mode training for 3 decades. I leaned my body way too much, reduced my fat content down to 8%, and packed full of muscles for survival mode functions, causing my body to ache like mad. I eased out now. I am very proud of you for using this method for PE. It's practically Spartan mode. I'm not sure how things function at the molecular and biochemical levels in terms of PE. You also use the MOS Red light therapy, which also sparks various cellular and molecular functions that normal diets and exercises don't work. For those who want to truly test this Spartan process while focusing on PE, we can form an experimental group for MOS. You have the longest experience in PE, while I have a similar experience in survival mode. I hope we can assist others to in achieving their goals while creating a new health-wise revelation method.

My wife is currently testing the full body red light therapy right now using high doses of collagen supplements (like what I normally use) with red light therapy while pulling her away from Botox and poisonous injections. Too many journeys to travel and not enough time and cloned bodies to experience the journey with.
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Very interesting.
But I do not believe collagen supplements will work. If I'm not incorrect the only way to boost the collagen production as we get older (and get less production) is with light therapy like the one you can find in MOS RED. So collagen supplements may be a waste of money. Like putting money into the dark deep money pit đź•ł

I do not think I would have gowned as fast as I did without MOS RED. I was able to keep the discoloration at bay in my glans with MOS RED (Stretching with LengthMaster 3). If I would not have been using it, I would have been forced to more rest days and probably slower length gains. I could not really afford It, but I knew if I got rid of the discoloration faster I would be able to grow faster. I only had 1 year to do it, so I had no choice.
 
Red light therapy is indeed a splendid approach to keeping the skin beautiful. It's been a hot topic since 2009 after a string of bad reviews on UV therapies for specific treatments and skin cancers. Too much of any good thing can screw you, regardless of the intention. By the way, the MOS Red specs has irradiance at >100mW/cm2 at 6-inch away. Has it been measured at 12-inch and 24-inch away with a solar meter or photospectrometer?

The reason I ask is the specific requirements for stimulating collagen production or cellular regeneration at the optimum level with specific doses. We've studied and tested the collagen production in specific areas and the red light therapy has an odd requirement for each area based on what you're planning to achieve. I saw some posts indicating you've sat between 6 to 12 inches away. Just out of curiosity, how much exposure time did you use for the power density?
 
oldandlively said:
Red light therapy is indeed a splendid approach to keeping the skin beautiful. It's been a hot topic since 2009 after a string of bad reviews on UV therapies for specific treatments and skin cancers. Too much of any good thing can screw you, regardless of the intention. By the way, the MOS Red specs has irradiance at >100mW/cm2 at 6-inch away. Has it been measured at 12-inch and 24-inch away with a solar meter or photospectrometer?

The reason I ask is the specific requirements for stimulating collagen production or cellular regeneration at the optimum level with specific doses. We've studied and tested the collagen production in specific areas and the red light therapy has an odd requirement for each area based on what you're planning to achieve. I saw some posts indicating you've sat between 6 to 12 inches away. Just out of curiosity, how much exposure time did you use for the power density?
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15 min after each session (2 times per day max).
Sometimes I only did one 30 min treatment.

I sit close to it. For me it works.
 
Interesting. We use the BioMax 900 full body panel, full spectrums, roughly around 55mW/cm2, for 8 minutes to achieve full body wellness while switching it to 81mW/cm2 in burst mode for 5 minutes for optimal collagen production for facial and head follicles. Works so far for females and for my son's facial abrasions from his accident. You know, this might a great discussion for those who have MOS Red since I couldn't find the full How-To for the unit.
 
oldandlively said:
Interesting. We use the BioMax 900 full body panel, full spectrums, roughly around 55mW/cm2, for 8 minutes to achieve full body wellness while switching it to 81mW/cm2 in burst mode for 5 minutes for optimal collagen production for facial and head follicles. Works so far for females and for my son's facial abrasions from his accident. You know, this might a great discussion for those who have MOS Red since I couldn't find the full How-To for the unit.
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Okay! A guide in how to use MOSRED. I thought the information on MOS SHOP was enough.
But I can write something up.


A full body panel would be awesome, but I do not have the space or the budget to put money on that.
 
The reason why is we want to mirror your growth rate to see if it's individual-base or if it can be optimally used by anyone through verification processes. Sciences are fickle mistresses.

Oh, by the way, I believe someone may need to perform a bit of an edit on the instruction for MOSRed. Why? Conflicting info. This is why I want a vet in MOS writes an effective How-To from experience to optimize the entire process.


Wait at least 6 hours and use one more time in RED & NIR mode for 10-15 minutes.Do not use more than two times in a 24 hour period.
For Problematic areas, you can use MOSRED for 12 minutes every 4 hours.
Do not use more than three times in a 24 hour period or longer than the recommended time or it will counteract the healing process.

The reason why pointed out these figures and measurement is because red light has been extensively studied and tried upon. The amount of exposure times and power density tend to cause me to flag statements left and right to protect the health of the users. Any in-depth info will benefit all of us greatly.
 
oldandlively said:
The reason why is we want to mirror your growth rate to see if it's individual-base or if it can be optimally used by anyone through verification processes. Sciences are fickle mistresses.
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@TWIST&PULL are growing at a high rate as well, so I do not believe people that are growing their penis fast are super-humans.
I believe it's about the programming (active and passive Penis Enlargement). @TWIST&PULL are mirroring what I did.

@DLD came up with, Behind The Cheeks Stretches, Bundled stretches and Behind The Cheeks Bundled Stretches years ago, these are the reasons for fast growth (all according to SRT).

I believe MOS RED are just a tool that speed up the gains even further.
It would never have been possible to grow at this rate without LengthMaster 3.

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squirt_inducer_man said:
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Picure: Blodpudding.
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Just kidding!
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
@TWIST&PULL are growing at a high rate as well, so I do not believe people that are growing their penis fast are super-humans.
I believe it's about the programming (active and passive Penis Enlargement). @TWIST&PULL are mirroring what I did.

@DLD came up with, Behind The Cheeks Stretches, Bundled stretches and Behind The Cheeks Bundled Stretches years ago, these are the reasons for fast growth (all according to SRT).

shop.mattersofsize.com

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Yep, I followed DLD original method back in the early 2009 to 2012 to gain my first inch in length and 0.5in in girth within 5 months and cementing the gains while continually gaining a tad here and there during the cementing processes. Loving-girl-friend-back-then-now-wife loved the growth but was horrified at the amount of penile workout ("torture") I was doing. She loved the results. Now, she just smiles, knowing I'm doing it for her. Before the LM was produced for the populus to buy, I did follow the original schematic to make one out of hard wood. Not sure what happened to my early wooden version of LM-wannabe. LM may be the next too to use after my medical experimentation process combos for collagen peptides, red light, standard pump-hang-stretch, SRT, and finally LM for the extra push to get beyond 7+ (NPBEL). Time to push harder this time.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
This thread are supposed to be about intermittent fasting, and not about starving your body to death. đź’€

I created this thread in order to share what is working (and have been working) for me in regards to changing my body composition. If you look at my first broomstick video, you will see a big strongman belly, you can't see that belly in my newest videos.
I do not react that good to consuming bread. When I eat bread my belly grow. Eating potatoes are much better for my body. I feel better if I reduce my bread intake. But I eat bread sometimes.

I grew over 3 Inches in length (BPEL) with this 20:4 diet. So it's not garbage. I have kept my body in an optimal state for penis growth for over a year now. I have also been able to keep my strength with this diet. But I have to confess that I have lost hand strength now, when I do not use my LengthMaster 3. This diet is still working...I have already grew some substantial amount in girth as well. I do not consume alcohol.

The key is to eat good nutritious food when you are eating, do not eat garbage. This diet is not about starving your body from carbohydrates or
nutrients, you need carbohydrates for your brain power. Neurons ("brain cells") can't store glucose and they need a stable supply of it to work optimally. But there are also other systems in the body that work in order to stabilize the blood sugar. I can go without food for a long time, without becoming tired. I feel more focused when I eat less food during the day.

I eat a lot of carbohydrates, but I do my best to restrict them from not being highly processed.
I probably was not clear about this in the beginning of this thread. When you write it is hard sometimes to cover all angles of a topic, in order to lay it all out so it will not be misinterpreted from others.
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I love your discipline you're so practiced and everything you do
 
DLD said:
I love your discipline you're so practiced and everything you do
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I do my best. I have procrastinated a lot today. But the reset are happening tonight. A good night sleep can do wonders for gains. It's all about the gains.
 
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