Overtraining on purpose for maximum gains?

Thank you, DLD, I hope so too! I`ll update when I notice growth and changes, I`m sure it will take some time to kick in and start working in my body, so right now I just have to be patient :)

That is it my brother you got to be patient and you got to have trust and faith in what you’re doing.
 
That is it my brother you got to be patient and you got to have trust and faith in what you’re doing.
Patience is my biggest weakness so I have to work on it, thank you for reminding me about trust and faith!
 
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Very nice post, i like it.
I ve read all the dialoge aboves and now its my first responce for this topic. I am experiencing about the same thing with you since i focus mainly on Clamping - Binding techniques with some basic streches. I do very instence clamping and binding sesions (2-3 min each/ 2 min rest) with tremendous girth expansions for around 2-3 hours per day, every day with no day rest. My EQ is really not good, but if i just stay 1-2 days total off, it comes back.

So u said u have not seen gains. Well u have made gains, and very big gains on girth, but just your EQ is not good or not strong enoughto achieve a 100% erection naturally and thus u misunderstand the real gains. Girth gains are simiral to length gains, i mean if someone has BPFSL 8 and has 7.5 BPESL, then his real - potential length is the 8 (thats the reason some research penis measurements are performed based on BPFSL, because this is the real length, the BPESL is affected from a lot of factors, like stress, self confidence, etc and then misunderstand the measurements, whereas the BPFSL is more reliable). So if u achieve somehow from 5.5 to 7 girth size, then this is ur real-potential girth state size, but its just hard to make it with normal classic erection from sex and etc. However, if u need a cock ring or pumb or whatever technique to achieve ur actual girth size, this is not bannable :), u can do whatever u like to maintain and achieve this girth size. U just cannnot maintain it and reach this girth size with just your pelvic muscles naturally since a lot amount of blood pressure and strength is required to expand from ur old girth size to the new one. That doesnt mean that u penis has not got this girth size (ok maybe not 7 because ur pumbed inflatable skin will possible affect measurement). Just the penis need time to realize its actual new size. Imagine if u suddenly got the muscle mass of a strong bodybuilder. Ur heart and body will have really problem to get used to this and cannot attach it at all.
 
Patience is my biggest weakness so I have to work on it, thank you for reminding me about trust and faith!

“And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.”

If you love what you’re working towards your going to get it. Anything I loved enough I always acquired.
 
“And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.”

If you love what you’re working towards your going to get it. Anything I loved enough I always acquired.
Thank you for sharing that! It`s a great reminder, as I often feel PE as a chore, but should look at is as fun and something great, becasue it will take me toward my goal.
 
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Thank you for sharing that! It`s a great reminder, as I often feel PE as a chore, but should look at is as fun and something great, becasue it will take me toward my goal.

if you see everything as a blessing everything will be blessed. ❤️
 
if you see everything as a blessing everything will be blessed. ❤
Update, I`ve got nothing to update from 2 december to today, I`ve still not had any effects from the testosterone.
 
Update, I`ve got nothing to update from 2 december to today, I`ve still not had any effects from the testosterone.

Are you in therapy and if so how often are you seeing the doctor?
 
Are you in therapy and if so how often are you seeing the doctor?
Had my first injection 2nd Dec, and am getting another one and seeing the doc in 10 weeks, so 10 to 12 weeks is how often I will get treatment
 
Had my first injection 2nd Dec, and am getting another one and seeing the doc in 10 weeks, so 10 to 12 weeks is how often I will get treatment

Good. You will not notice things probably until the second injection. It’s a slow process and this is why the space out injections the way they do. You will get better my friend, have no fear. And I’m praying for you right now that this comes with Godspeed.
 
Good. You will not notice things probably until the second injection. It’s a slow process and this is why the space out injections the way they do. You will get better my friend, have no fear. And I’m praying for you right now that this comes with Godspeed.
I haven`t thought about that the effects will come after the second one, thank you for telling me! Thank you for praying for me!

Regarding pumps, I have a big one x40 bathmate, the second largest one. And it`s obviously very big for me, but will an ever bigger pump be better and give me better results, or will it just be too large to give me results? I don`t know if you know anything about this but have to ask.
 
I haven`t thought about that the effects will come after the second one, thank you for telling me! Thank you for praying for me!

Regarding pumps, I have a big one x40 bathmate, the second largest one. And it`s obviously very big for me, but will an ever bigger pump be better and give me better results, or will it just be too large to give me results? I don`t know if you know anything about this but have to ask.

What’s wrong with your X 40?
 
Nothing, just wonder if a bigger pump is better or worse for results

Do you want to go with the pump that is close to your goal size without too much negative space. If you fit just fine in the pump you have there’s no reason to go to a bigger pump. The reason to change to a new pump is when your girth expands too much for the tube or your length exceeds the measurement of the tube.
 
Do you want to go with the pump that is close to your goal size without too much negative space. If you fit just fine in the pump you have there’s no reason to go to a bigger pump. The reason to change to a new pump is when your girth expands too much for the tube or your length exceeds the measurement of the tube.
Alright, good to know, then the x40 is all I need for now!
 
Alright, good to know, then the x40 is all I need for now!

That’s all you need my brother and a decent cock ring. Check out the ones we have in the store they’re very inexpensive and will do the trick as far as healing goes.
 
That’s all you need my brother and a decent cock ring. Check out the ones we have in the store they’re very inexpensive and will do the trick as far as healing goes.
Sure will do! I just noticed now in my last 3 sessions, that my dick is completely filling out the girth of the x40, its all edema. Is this a bad thing? I`ve never had this happened before, edema filling the x40 girth isnt a reason to go to the bigger one is it`? I cant use any less pressure than what i use becasue otherwise I wont feel or expand at all.
 
Sure will do! I just noticed now in my last 3 sessions, that my dick is completely filling out the girth of the x40, its all edema. Is this a bad thing? I`ve never had this happened before, edema filling the x40 girth isnt a reason to go to the bigger one is it`? I cant use any less pressure than what i use becasue otherwise I wont feel or expand at all.

if you’re using the 5×5×3 you’ll have very little water retention.
 
if you’re using the 5×5×3 you’ll have very little water retention.
Good to know! I cant find the post again, but I think I`ve read somewhere that WHEN one reaches ones goal size, that one have to gain 0.5 inches permanently over your goal, because the new grown permanent size will shrink when you slow down PE training, is this true?
 
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Good to know! I cant find the post again, but I think I`ve read somewhere that WHEN one reaches ones goal size, that one have to gain 0.5 inches permanently over your goal, because the new grown permanent size will shrink when you slow down PE training, is this true?

Yes that is a loose rule for the most part. The most someone would lose after putting in a lot of work would be a quarter inch to a half of an inch so I always say go for an extra half inch so you settle down into the size you desire.

I find it far better just to commit myself for life keeping my penis in good shape. I’ve obviously made all the gains I desire so today I just maintain but always keep my head in the game.

The camaraderie of the brotherhood is also a very good reason to stick around for support on anything you may be going through.
 
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