Involuntary kegels for hardness?

habban · Sep 4, 2016

Hello!

I have a question about hardness and involuntary kegels.
I used to have harder erections and i also used to have involuntary kegels.
Is there any correlation between hardness of your penis and involuntary kegels? I know DLD promotes us to do kegels everyday and nothing about balancing the pelvic floor.
Could it be possible that the goal is to get strong muscles enough to handle involuntary kegels for longer periods, so your penis is as hard as possible for as long as possible?

Thanks!

Spamjavelin76 · Sep 4, 2016

Can you explain what you mean by involuntary kegels? Is it literally kegels which 'happen' rather than kegels you intentionally perform?

kyomoto · Sep 4, 2016

How are you doing them involuntarily?

habban · Sep 5, 2016

The theory on other forums is that if you go overboard and do too many kegels compared to reverse kegels your pelvic floor will be unbalanced.
involuntary kegels is spasms in the pelvic floor area which causes you to do regular kegels unintentionally which often leads to premature ejaculation.
This can happen more easy if you are not relaxed or nervous and tensed. If you are tensed you could very well be doing kegels or hold a kegel while not even think
about it which will lead to premature ejaculation.

What i was thinking is if you build up some endurance & strength in those muscles. Make your reverse kegel strong, and also your regular kegels strong. Train your PC & BC muscle.
This will let you handle the involuntary kegels for longer periods of time, making your erection last harder for longer periods as you are trained to handle this.
And if your BC muscle is strong too, you could do a hard reverse kegel if you feel that you are going to cum, to kinda control the involuntary kegels for a while.

My theory: If you do involuntary kegels you will pump more blood to your penis, giving you a harder penis. Because as you can see if you hold a kegel while erect you can get stone hard.
If you would involuntary pump this motion over and over your penis will keep being stone hard. If your PC muscles have good endurance and strength you will not get exhausted
too fast while doing this involuntary kegels. If your endurance is bad and your strength is weak your erections will subside faster and not get as hard. As your penis gets bigger and needs more blood you will have to build
up your kegels over and over again to be able to handle those involuntary kegels for longer period of times, while being able to push back the premature ejaculation with your reverse kegels.

Just my theory.

kyomoto · Sep 5, 2016

habban;703711 said:
The theory on other forums is that if you go overboard and do too many kegels compared to reverse kegels your pelvic floor will be unbalanced.
involuntary kegels is spasms in the pelvic floor area which causes you to do regular kegels unintentionally which often leads to premature ejaculation.
This can happen more easy if you are not relaxed or nervous and tensed. If you are tensed you could very well be doing kegels or hold a kegel while not even think
about it which will lead to premature ejaculation.

What i was thinking is if you build up some endurance & strength in those muscles. Make your reverse kegel strong, and also your regular kegels strong. Train your PC & BC muscle.
This will let you handle the involuntary kegels for longer periods of time, making your erection last harder for longer periods as you are trained to handle this.
And if your BC muscle is strong too, you could do a hard reverse kegel if you feel that you are going to cum, to kinda control the involuntary kegels for a while.

My theory: If you do involuntary kegels you will pump more blood to your penis, giving you a harder penis. Because as you can see if you hold a kegel while erect you can get stone hard.
If you would involuntary pump this motion over and over your penis will keep being stone hard. If your PC muscles have good endurance and strength you will not get exhausted
too fast while doing this involuntary kegels. If your endurance is bad and your strength is weak your erections will subside faster and not get as hard. As your penis gets bigger and needs more blood you will have to build
up your kegels over and over again to be able to handle those involuntary kegels for longer period of times, while being able to push back the premature ejaculation with your reverse kegels.

Just my theory.

That's strange. I've never had involuntary kegels. If it works for you like a regular system then thats great you don't have to think about doing kegels. Take advantage of that dude.

habban · Sep 5, 2016

kyomoto;703715 said:
That's strange. I've never had involuntary kegels. If it works for you like a regular system then thats great you don't have to think about doing kegels. Take advantage of that dude.

I don't have involuntary kegels anymore. I used to have like that.

I'm here asking if someone has any knowledge about this. Especially DLD, what his thoughts is about this since he promotes only kegels.

Big Schwanz Acht · Sep 5, 2016

I've come-across several threads where Mike espouses the virtues of RK's as well as Kegels, and the underlying message in all of PE is, (or should be) balance and safety. Personally, I've done so many K's and RK's that it's almost part of my breathing...what I mean is, I don't actively notice that I'm doing them and will catch myself. I wouldn't classify this as involuntary as much as not paying attention

kyomoto · Sep 5, 2016

habban;703717 said:
I don't have involuntary kegels anymore. I used to have like that.

I'm here asking if someone has any knowledge about this. Especially DLD, what his thoughts is about this since he promotes only kegels.

What did you do to get there though. Or is it just like you have no idea?

habban · Sep 5, 2016

kyomoto;703721 said:
What did you do to get there though. Or is it just like you have no idea?

Many kegels. It became a normal habit as Big Schwanz Art says that you don't notice because it is in your unconsciousness.
DLD say do kegels all day everyday, do it when you drive car etc etc. Eventually it will led to being something you do all the time.
It was when i finally understand why i had premature ejaculation i noticed that i did kegels unintentionally. So i took notice and fixed it.
But i have now come to the conclusion that perhaps they are good, i just have to be able to control them during sex.

kyomoto · Sep 5, 2016

habban;703734 said:
Many kegels. It became a normal habit as Big Schwanz Art says that you don't notice because it is in your unconsciousness.
DLD say do kegels all day everyday, do it when you drive car etc etc. Eventually it will led to being something you do all the time.
It was when i finally understand why i had premature ejaculation i noticed that i did kegels unintentionally. So i took notice and fixed it.
But i have now come to the conclusion that perhaps they are good, i just have to be able to control them during sex.

What do you do control those unintentional kegels like for premature ejaculation, reverse kegels? I'm interested if this well help with pre-cum because I hate having pre cum it's so annoying when you're trying to be cautious with someone

habban · Sep 5, 2016

kyomoto;703743 said:
What do you do control those unintentional kegels like for premature ejaculation, reverse kegels? I'm interested if this well help with pre-cum because I hate having pre cum it's so annoying when you're trying to be cautious with someone

Try to relax the whole area, think about the area down there and focus on what is happening. Reverse kegels just help to force the relaxation. About the pre-cum i'm not sure what you mean. It can happen with me too if i go too far close the PONR without having enough control of the situation i guess.

kyomoto · Sep 5, 2016

habban;703747 said:
Try to relax the whole area, think about the area down there and focus on what is happening. Reverse kegels just help to force the relaxation. About the pre-cum i'm not sure what you mean. It can happen with me too if i go too far close the PONR without having enough control of the situation i guess.

I basically just want to stop precum all together :/ I think it's possible.

Threak-X · Sep 5, 2016

Pre-cum is necessary, it's needed to produce an ejaculation, the lubricant that get you to shoot across the room. ("ptooey" "tling")
It's controlled by the body’s hormones, stop producing the hormones and it will stop, which in itself is self-defeating.
It's knowing when to pull back on the action and relax and then resume...
...learn to practice tantric sex, I was nickname "Marathon-Man by a few of my ex-lovers

kyomoto · Sep 6, 2016

Threak-X;703766 said:
Pre-cum is necessary, it's needed to produce an ejaculation, the lubricant that get you to shoot across the room. ("ptooey" "tling")
It's controlled by the body’s hormones, stop producing the hormones and it will stop, which in itself is self-defeating.
It's knowing when to pull back on the action and relax and then resume...
...learn to practice tantric sex, I was nickname "Marathon-Man by a few of my ex-lovers

Is it difficult to stop pre-cum? In �� there are guys where you don't even see it I may be wrong. I'll look into tantric sex

Threak-X · Sep 6, 2016

kyomoto;703810 said:
Is it difficult to stop pre-cum? In �� there are guys where you don't even see it I may be wrong. I'll look into tantric sex

In professional �� making, they don't do one-continuous shot. There are long-shots, medium-shots, close-up shots, the infamous money-shots and so on. There are numerous camera angles that are employed, then they are all edit together to make it look like one take in the movie. So they (actors) have breaks while they set up for the different angle shots, plus their regular breaks including lunch break. They use lots of lube(usually don't see) for the women because they get dry and men get fluffed to get back up to do the scene. It can be an all-day event just to get what looks like a 30-minute sexual-fuck encounter. It's a legit business and they have to adhere to the labor laws and provide contracts to the actors and film-staff. All that work, so you don't see precum (LoL)

I think DLD can vouch for it, I believe he has been a �� set or two during filming in his life time.

DLD · Sep 6, 2016

Threak-X;703813 said:
In professional �� making, they don't do one-continuous shot. There are long-shots, medium-shots, close-up shots, the infamous money-shots and so on. There are numerous camera angles that are employed, then they are all edit together to make it look like one take in the movie. So they (actors) have breaks while they set up for the different angle shots, plus their regular breaks including lunch break. They use lots of lube(usually don't see) for the women because they get dry and men get fluffed to get back up to do the scene. It can be an all-day event just to get what looks like a 30-minute sexual-fuck encounter. It's a legit business and they have to adhere to the labor laws and provide contracts to the actors and film-staff. All that work, so you don't see precum (LoL)

I think DLD can vouch for it, I believe he has been a �� set or two during filming in his life time.

Indeed I can and you are correct. With Bang Bros. it was not a very erotic situation for anyone. It was a lot of stop and go and wait action. The first thing they do is the cumshot and a few hours later they will do all the other scenes. I was invited to do a �� with them and 10 of their girls but I just knew I could never perform like that. It is amazing. Rocco would do like 3 scenes a day and then he would top out and cuckold at night...I do not think this guys cock ever goes soft! �� actors are pros at what they do, it takes a certain type of guy. If anyone thinks that this is sexy or erotic has a big disappointment coming. The final product is seamless and in order but it was never shot that way, all in the edit room.

kyomoto · Sep 6, 2016

Threak-X;703813 said:
In professional �� making, they don't do one-continuous shot. There are long-shots, medium-shots, close-up shots, the infamous money-shots and so on. There are numerous camera angles that are employed, then they are all edit together to make it look like one take in the movie. So they (actors) have breaks while they set up for the different angle shots, plus their regular breaks including lunch break. They use lots of lube(usually don't see) for the women because they get dry and men get fluffed to get back up to do the scene. It can be an all-day event just to get what looks like a 30-minute sexual-fuck encounter. It's a legit business and they have to adhere to the labor laws and provide contracts to the actors and film-staff. All that work, so you don't see precum (LoL)

I think DLD can vouch for it, I believe he has been a �� set or two during filming in his life time.

Oh okay i see. Well that makes sense. Hmmm

Munto · Sep 7, 2016

doublelongdaddy;703827 said:
... The first thing they do is the cumshot and a few hours later they will do all the other scenes.

I always thought they do that last - dream crushed

doublelongdaddy;703827 said:
Indeed I can and you are correct. With Bang Bros. it was not a very erotic situation for anyone. It was a lot of stop and go and wait action.

So I assume you didn't do �� then?

kyomoto · Sep 7, 2016

Munto;703929 said:
I always thought they do that last - dream crushed

So I assume you didn't do �� then?

I don't think he has from what he said.

DLD · Sep 7, 2016

Munto;703929 said:
I always thought they do that last - dream crushed

So I assume you didn't do �� then?

No, it would be against my own beliefs but, even if not for that, I would never be able to do what those guys do. Like I said they are pros.

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