I tried wrapping loosely, but I get a lot of slipping if I do, and a ton of pinching. I've seen stillwantmore's hanging video so I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on the process. I also get slipping if I don't tighten the hanger so that the teeth are meshed together completely (Bib). I've been hanging for 2 months now. I will have to make a day of altering things one aspect at a time until I don't feel anything but the stretch.