Anesthesia

0
Registered
Joined
Nov 4, 2004
Messages
108
Okay i'm not too good with my nutrition, but i'm very experienced weightlifter.

Anyway, i'm going to start cutting and i've been doing cardio now.
I want to cut carbs out after 6 pm but i still like to eat after then in small doses.

What foods should i eat after 6pm that have like lil to no carbs besides a protein shake i take? It seems hard to do.

Any help plz
 
well you are supposed to eat carbs after you workout so i guess just workout later
 
Don't eat at all after dinner. It's a fallacy that you need protein every three hours or you'll waste away. Eating up till bedtime was what kept me from dropping below 10% last time I tried cutting. If you abstain from eating 6-7 hours before bed (or atleast 3hours) you will notice the difference it makes in your six pack after one night!
 
goldmember said:
Don't eat at all after dinner. It's a fallacy that you need protein every three hours or you'll waste away. Eating up till bedtime was what kept me from dropping below 10% last time I tried cutting. If you abstain from eating 6-7 hours before bed (or atleast 3hours) you will notice the difference it makes in your six pack after one night!

Thats the worst advice ive ever heard,6-7 hours before bed then say 8 hours sleep,15 hours without food,bad bad idea.
 
Yea, especially when you wake up in the middle of the night straving, raiding the fridge or pantry since you haven't eaten anything since dinner. You'd probably gain more weight this way. I've tried this method too and woke up hungry many of times. And when I did pig out on food it was mostly junk. You get some bad/weird cravings when you wake up in the middle of the night straving.
 
you need carbs for energy (to burn fat/build muscle), its a fact... but, if u eat too many, you store them as fat...

eating tons of protein isnt goo either because your muscles need only so much, that also gets stored as fat, not as easily though...

eating a balanced deit 40/40/20 P-C-F is a good place to start... then see just how many carbs you need to maintain muscle mass, while burning fat. same as protein..

eat fats, from olive oil, nuts and dairy... stay away from saturated fat, which gets burned the slowest and stored the easiest
 
prince Albert said:
Thats the worst advice ive ever heard,6-7 hours before bed then say 8 hours sleep,15 hours without food,bad bad idea.
Don't knock it till you try it. I kid you not, I absolutely dreaded doing this when it was first recommended to me, but it works. Mostly everything about dieting is CATABOLIC and with proper training you won't waste away like these bodybuilding magazines that try to sell you their supplements would like you to believe. Whoever said going 15 hours (usually the laziest hours of the day anyway) without food will make you lose muscle? In fact, if you're such a proponent of low-intensity cardio, then you would support this practice. Sleep and the hours before sleep where you typically do nothing are as LOW-INTENSITY as you can get, and the proportion of fat burned is EXTREMELY HIGH. So I would say this is excellent advice, and different from the idiots who say if you don't have an infusion of protein every two hours you will waste away....that is the SHITTY advice if you ask me.
 
Mr.Winkle said:
Yea, especially when you wake up in the middle of the night straving, raiding the fridge or pantry since you haven't eaten anything since dinner. You'd probably gain more weight this way. I've tried this method too and woke up hungry many of times. And when I did pig out on food it was mostly junk. You get some bad/weird cravings when you wake up in the middle of the night straving.
If you don't have the discipline to keep yourself from raiding the fridge at 3am, then I doubt ANY diet plan would help you.
 
Any chance of some progress pics to back up your claim GM,your basicaly starving yourself to loose weight.
 
prince Albert said:
...your basicaly starving yourself to loose weight.
Agree... this is not ideal. I can understand a timed carb diet where you stop eating carbs 6-7 hours before sleeping, but not eating at all is not good. Especially if your training hard. Anyone can lose weight from not eating, but it's just not sound.
 
Some people have great genetics for dieting with little atrophy of muscle.

I am right now losing weight to fast so i know i'm atrophy too much. i'm losing like a consistant 3 lbs a week, too much of it is muscle, especially from my legs.
 
It's all about controlling your diet... if you're losing weight too fast then add some calories back into your diet. But you must understand that even in the best conditions, you will lose some muscle when you cut. How much just depends on how well you planned and how well you know your body.
 
Since when is not eating after dinner "starving"??? Has everyone lost there sanity? I will post my pic, but I have to say I'm not hungry or starving in the least!
 

Attachments

  • goldmemberFLEX.jpg
    goldmemberFLEX.jpg
    15.7 KB · Views: 1
You might not be hungry but you are starving your body,going long periods of time without food is a very effective way to slow your metabolism down,protien is a must when dieting.

Your looking pretty lean in that pic,what are your stats?
 
prince Albert said:
You might not be hungry but you are starving your body,going long periods of time without food is a very effective way to slow your metabolism down,protien is a must when dieting.

Your looking pretty lean in that pic,what are your stats?
I had a DEXA scan done, and that said I was 11% bodyfat. My waist is 30", biceps 16", chest 39". Those are the most important measures. I weigh 165 pounds and am 5'8" (1.73m). I can bench press 225 for 6 reps, squat 315 for 6 reps, and curl 100 pounds for 6 reps. I am focusing mostly on bodyweight calesthenics now though, so that is where my recent fat loss and strength are coming from. With bodyweight calesthenics you train many untrained muscles and this brings out real power within.

Don't take 6-7 hours as written in stone. If you can't handle going that long, then first start at 2-3 hours. I never said you MUST go this long without eating (read my first post), but I will say it is very effective, and I have actually gained strength while doing so. I think this three-hour feeding is a FALLACY designed by supplement companies to sell more protein powders and amino acid supplements. There is some truth to it, but it is way overexaggerated.

When blood glucose drops below a certain point, your body releases growth hormone, which acts to spare glucose for the brain, and it is also anabolic to the muscles and catabolic to fat. Actually, it is the somatomedins (insulin-like growth factors) that are responsible for this, but I am getting off topic. Yes, protein consumption also boosts GH, and for this you may want to eat almost entirely protein if you decide to eat within 6 hours of sleeping. You will sleep MUCH better (and deeper and awake more rested) when you give up eating after dinner. I will stand strongly by this. The better you sleep, the more ENERGY you have the next day, and you can burn more calories via more efficient workouts and higher BathmateR. This is more important than thinking you need to eat to preserve your BathmateR--it isn't that responsive. For good measure (and to furthur increase my morning energy) I wake up to breathing exercises, some yoga poses, and some standing ab exercises. This awakens me to a whole nutha level! Give this a try: don't eat anything after dinner (only protein if you must--but absolutely nothing within 2 hours of bed) and see how much better you sleep, how much more energy you have throughout the day, and how much more vibrant you are. Give it atleast a couple weeks before you complain about how you are hungry (don't be a wuss :D). PM me if you want more clarification.
-Gold
 
I have tried it before GM about 5 years ago,i'm the same height as you 5'8 and i ended up at about 155lb with a 29 inch waist,the amount of muscle loss was sili chest went from 45 inches down to 42 and legs totally disapeared 26 down to 22,this year when i cut i ate at 6pm 8 pm and just before bed and had no trouble getting in good condition,ended up at 191lb.
 
prince Albert said:
I have tried it before GM about 5 years ago,i'm the same height as you 5'8 and i ended up at about 155lb with a 29 inch waist,the amount of muscle loss was sili chest went from 45 inches down to 42 and legs totally disapeared 26 down to 22,this year when i cut i ate at 6pm 8 pm and just before bed and had no trouble getting in good condition,ended up at 191lb.
Great. Maybe others will find success with your method as well. In fact, I bet many people will. But not too many people preach the method I use (except I found that Tom Venuto--do a google search) preaches the same method I do and has also seen TREMENDOUS results. Find what works for you, and do it.
 
Back
Top Bottom