Bundling during weight hanging. Intense session!

Why not go with the manual version that I have given you and skip the LG for now?

I wanted to say the same. Manual stretching works waaaay better for me than hanging. Manual work CAN'T be replaced with gear. Gear is OK dont get me wrong, but arms are arms bros...thats the way it is. Since I quit hanging I started to see some changes in length, didnt measure but visually I see something. My hair on base moved slightly forward towards head. My arm is "fuller" and when touching sides at the base I discovered new tissue moved out.
 
Nice routine. Would I do bundled stretches 2.5 minutes straight for each side or in sets of 30 seconds say? Also wouldnt expressive stretching pull mostly skin? I’d have to look up the other stretches too. As per last post my glans is having issues using the lg right now. Might even take another week off from training and do only kegals and jelqs to see if maybe I need to build up some conditioning.
Just manual stretch bro. I am struggling with length like you and we have same stats tbh.
For me I dont use conventional bundles, I am doing __________ Stretch, it is powerful, it is bundle stretch and it is easy to perform and I can hold my dick up to hour in grip. Focus a lot on BTC stretches since they go past your body in "negative" range of motion therefore you get higher stress on ligaments.
Try to support your gripping arm with another arm to intensify stretch (pull stronger), thats what I am doing every time, I dont feel stretch anymore when pulling with one arm I have to use both and it spells magic like goddamn Potter. Dont stress yourself brother. Everytime you get pissed for slow progress, remember brother that there are THOUSANDS of guys with dicks less than 4' who have no clue that PE is possible, YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS POSSIBLE AND YOU ARE BLESSED! You, me, DLD, Mr. Lighting, stillwantmore and thousands of other guys on MoS. Dude we are blessed, maybe sounds sili and pathetic but thats the true...so KEEP CALM AND PULL THAT DICK AWAY BROTHER ???
 
I wanted to say the same. Manual stretching works waaaay better for me than hanging. Manual work CAN'T be replaced with gear. Gear is OK dont get me wrong, but arms are arms bros...thats the way it is. Since I quit hanging I started to see some changes in length, didnt measure but visually I see something. My hair on base moved slightly forward towards head. My arm is "fuller" and when touching sides at the base I discovered new tissue moved out.

nothing will ever be better than our hands but there are some things that can really help us as far as tools go.
 
Just manual stretch bro. I am struggling with length like you and we have same stats tbh.
For me I dont use conventional bundles, I am doing __________ Stretch, it is powerful, it is bundle stretch and it is easy to perform and I can hold my dick up to hour in grip. Focus a lot on BTC stretches since they go past your body in "negative" range of motion therefore you get higher stress on ligaments.
Try to support your gripping arm with another arm to intensify stretch (pull stronger), thats what I am doing every time, I dont feel stretch anymore when pulling with one arm I have to use both and it spells magic like goddamn Potter. Dont stress yourself brother. Everytime you get pissed for slow progress, remember brother that there are THOUSANDS of guys with dicks less than 4' who have no clue that PE is possible, YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS POSSIBLE AND YOU ARE BLESSED! You, me, DLD, Mr. Lighting, stillwantmore and thousands of other guys on MoS. Dude we are blessed, maybe sounds sili and pathetic but thats the true...so KEEP CALM AND PULL THAT DICK AWAY BROTHER ???

You are blessed my brother as are the rest of the brotherhood!
 
Im using sock hanger, would be good if i had a better than this but it also does a good job.
I do not wrap at all, after session i just put him in my homemade sock ads lol and just keep it in elongated state, checking blood flow, checking with fingers my shaft to see if the tissue is in the semi-stretched position. Going pretty well

Do you have a picture of the sock ADS?
 
Just manual stretch bro. I am struggling with length like you and we have same stats tbh.
For me I dont use conventional bundles, I am doing __________ Stretch, it is powerful, it is bundle stretch and it is easy to perform and I can hold my dick up to hour in grip. Focus a lot on BTC stretches since they go past your body in "negative" range of motion therefore you get higher stress on ligaments.
Try to support your gripping arm with another arm to intensify stretch (pull stronger), thats what I am doing every time, I dont feel stretch anymore when pulling with one arm I have to use both and it spells magic like goddamn Potter. Dont stress yourself brother. Everytime you get pissed for slow progress, remember brother that there are THOUSANDS of guys with dicks less than 4' who have no clue that PE is possible, YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS POSSIBLE AND YOU ARE BLESSED! You, me, DLD, Mr. Lighting, stillwantmore and thousands of other guys on MoS. Dude we are blessed, maybe sounds sili and pathetic but thats the true...so KEEP CALM AND PULL THAT DICK AWAY BROTHER ???

where art thou brother?
 
Im fine thanks Mike, but struggling to gain big time... <3

don’t struggle go for it smalltime for now ? Just joking where do you think you’re struggling and would you like me to work with you on putting together a routine?
 
don’t struggle go for it smalltime for now ? Just joking where do you think you’re struggling and would you like me to work with you on putting together a routine?
Whole PE thing is a struggle lets be honest, this is not childs play or thing for mentally small people.

I think the problem is that in the last few months I have totally ignored the signs of overtraining, but read till thr end bro.

My current routine consists of ssj and internal stretching. As for the program itself, I am very satisfied because I manage to cover all areas of the penis (length / circumference) and at the end of each session my penis is much bigger and longer, it feels much better in the hand and the tissue is significantly expanded, as for the work on the penis as I said at the end of training it is visibly enlarged and very massive and heavy from so much blood concentration in shaft.

This means that it is not a bad work plan, but I did not allow the tissue to repair itself, I had heavy sessions every day for a long time and I simply lost track of how much force I use for better expansion, resulting in 0 gains in the last few months. .

I came to that conclusion a few days ago to actually push a lot and now I'm going slowly so I'll see what happens, but from January 2020 until now I've made a big shift with this routine.
 
Whole PE thing is a struggle lets be honest, this is not childs play or thing for mentally small people.

I think the problem is that in the last few months I have totally ignored the signs of overtraining, but read till thr end bro.

My current routine consists of ssj and internal stretching. As for the program itself, I am very satisfied because I manage to cover all areas of the penis (length / circumference) and at the end of each session my penis is much bigger and longer, it feels much better in the hand and the tissue is significantly expanded, as for the work on the penis as I said at the end of training it is visibly enlarged and very massive and heavy from so much blood concentration in shaft.

This means that it is not a bad work plan, but I did not allow the tissue to repair itself, I had heavy sessions every day for a long time and I simply lost track of how much force I use for better expansion, resulting in 0 gains in the last few months. .

I came to that conclusion a few days ago to actually push a lot and now I'm going slowly so I'll see what happens, but from January 2020 until now I've made a big shift with this routine.

Great write up I appreciate it my brother. I am so happy that you have figured out that healing is just as important as growing. I don’t know if you had a chance to read the SRT thread but it really explains how we gain and heal in the best way
 
Great write up I appreciate it my brother. I am so happy that you have figured out that healing is just as important as growing. I don’t know if you had a chance to read the SRT thread but it really explains how we gain and heal in the best way
Actually Mike, I was reading SRT years ago and essentials of the thread was great to be learned such as healing and bundles, but most of my knowledge comes from the experience (6 years on and off) I think.
I salvaged some time to write this all up and I hope you dont mind my MoS offline mode because I really appreciate what I found here just dont have much time to contribute here...
 
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Actually Mike, I was reading SRT years ago and essentials of the thread was great to be learned such as healing and bundles, but most of my knowledge comes from the experience (6 years on and off) I think.
I salvaged some time to write this all up and I hope you dont mind my MoS offline mode because I really appreciate what I found here just dont have much time to contribute here...

Whatever makes you happiest makes me happy!
 
Getting ready to add some manual work back into my routine, should I consider doing bundled hanging at low weight say 8 to 10 pounds.
 
Getting ready to add some manual work back into my routine, should I consider doing bundled hanging at low weight say 8 to 10 pounds.

I love the idea of bundled hanging so I completely support you and encourage you to include this. Bundles are the secret of major gains.
 
yeah I done bundled hanging then a set of bundled stretching that I am going to rotate manual and pumping.
 
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yeah I done bundled hanging then a set of bundled stretching that I am going to rotate manual and pumping.

Bundled stretching is probably the best exercise I ever created. What strange as I came out with this 15 years ago and nobody really used it until I realized what it really was doing. When I realized that it was expanding and pre-stretching the tunica it went gangbusters! Every single brother should be doing some sort of bundle stretching
 
Bundled stretching is probably the best exercise I ever created. What strange as I came out with this 15 years ago and nobody really used it until I realized what it really was doing. When I realized that it was expanding and pre-stretching the tunica it went gangbusters! Every single brother should be doing some sort of bundle stretching
Bundles can be used as solo routine as well, great exercise!
 
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