It's experiment week over at my house. I was doing a little reading on Cialis, its' side effects and what not. Then I thought, 'if this works on a penis so well then why doesn't it work on a clitoris'? Well, online research came up with nothing other than "it most likely doesn't do anything" for a woman. So I talked it out with the wife a bit, and she agreed to give it a go. Now need I remind you, Cialis works in men within a 30 min- 1 hr window and can last for 36 hours. How this would affect my wife is unknown. What I do know is that we had jaw dropping sex tonight. She was also more sensitive on the clit and surrounding regions. What would normally take me 8-10 min to get her off, took me 2-3 min. I also felt that her clit was more engorged, even after she came. Is this proof that there is some mechanism that is working behind the scenes for women? I doubt it! It could have been a placebo affect. Who knows! But I wouldn't mind seeing if other people get the same reactions I saw with their significant others.
 
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Women have prostates. The hormones are obviously different but I would think there'd still be some effort on arousal.
 
MoreThanLuck;668490 said:
It's experiment week over at my house. I was doing a little reading on Cialis, its' side effects and what not. Then I thought, 'if this works on a penis so well then why doesn't it work on a clitoris'? Well, online research came up with nothing other than "it most likely doesn't do anything" for a woman. So I talked it out with the wife a bit, and she agreed to give it a go. Now need I remind you, Cialis works in men within a 30 min- 1 hr window and can last for 36 hours. How this would affect my wife is unknown. What I do know is that we had jaw dropping sex tonight. She was also more sensitive on the clit and surrounding regions. What would normally take me 8-10 min to get her off, took me 2-3 min. I also felt that her clit was more engorged, even after she came. Is this proof that there is some mechanism that is working behind the scenes for women? I doubt it! It could have been a placebo affect. Who knows! But I wouldn't mind seeing if other people get the same reactions I saw with their significant others.

All erectile tissues have similar chemistry. Copied from the web with changes added...

An erection of the [clitoris] during sexual stimulation takes place with an increase of blood flow after [clitoris blood supplies] relax in the smooth muscle of the [clitoral complex]. Nitric oxide released from nerve endings starts this arterial relaxation. When the nitric oxide is released, cyclic nucleotide guanosine monophosphate (cGMP) is created in the smooth muscle cells. This cGMP relaxes the smooth muscle and increases blood flow.

When Cialis is taken, it stops the enzyme called phosphodiesterase type 5, or PDE5. When there’s less of the PDE5 enzyme, there’s more cGMP, hence, there’s more of a chance for an erection of the [erectile clitoral tissues]. Since sexual stimulation is necessary to start the release of nitric oxide, the deterring effect of Cialis on the PDE5 enzyme doesn’t work if there is no sexual stimulation.

It works best on the women least likely to 'need' it ... so its best (most effective) use is as a recreational booster for healthy younger women. For groups of higher age or lower health/lower sexual response .. its effects can be "clit-or-miss", only being positively effective half as often, with complaints about oversensitivity of the clitoris even when not presently having sex.

Wall of text
Effect of Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra on Women From Clinical Study Results | Sheena Gurai, PharmD | RxEconsult

Interestingly .. regarding getting the mind involved in the matter ... control subjects (in the healthy group) taking a fake pill (a placebo) experienced positive benefits of sexual response, lubrication, and orgasm 60% as much as those actually on the PDE5-inhibitor drug. The drug only being 'better' than the mind-alone by another 40%.

Since the targeted tissues are so tiny, compared to the entire body, swallowing a pill, expecting it to survive the gut, liver, and still have an effect on everyone no matter their blood type, age, neurologic function, etc etc is a long way around. A topical cream or gel (even posing as a lubricant) would make more sense .. applied directly to the tissues, it is guaranteed to arrive there. They're trying to make such creams ... maybe going back to 2006 or so .. there are too many to list but it you wanted to look up
PDE5-inhibitor Clitoris
you'd find a lot of info on them.

This was in the news again last week ... a Hawaiian mushroom that smells terrible to guys .. but gives women spontaneous orgasms. ...(I can only do that occasionally :cool: )

The bright orange mushroom caused women to suddenly reach climax for no apparent reason. In a trial involving 16 women, 6 had orgasms while smelling the mushroom's fruit body, and the other ten, who received smaller doses, experienced pre-orgasmic physiological changes such as increased heart rate.

The site of the published journal is offline from being too popular, lol, ... here's a decent article on it
Unusual Fungus Causes Women to Have Instant Earth-Shattering Orgasms!

Sex Panther, by Odeon -- 60% of the time it works every time!

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Who knows maybe it will make her clit harder and bigger:)
 
acromegaly;668644 said:
might as well start her clit pumping

LMFAO.
Yo, you're funny. You too DLD.

@Asanon

You have a good point and it's interesting how we have the same chemistry and it does work which is great. I think we found a good way to excite women guys.
 
I told my wife if her libido doesn't come back after she has this baby im going to start spiking her drinks
she was like "AHHH NO YOU CANT DO THAT"
shes really against any kind of pill or drug
 
acromegaly;668665 said:
I told my wife if her libido doesn't come back after she has this baby im going to start spiking her drinks
she was like "AHHH NO YOU CANT DO THAT"
shes really against any kind of pill or drug

Haha. I'm against pills/drugs too :P I can understand that, just get her aroused in a different way. Arrive at your house if your wife is home or wait til the time is right and do something naughty/smooth.
 
acromegaly;668644 said:
might as well start her clit pumping

I've already started her on a hanging program for her clit. She's hanging about 12 lbs every night. The eventual goal is to have someone to sword fight with. I can't wait to see her hardon run down her skinny jeans. 😝
 
MoreThanLuck;668746 said:
I've already started her on a hanging program for her clit. She's hanging about 12 lbs every night. The eventual goal is to have someone to sword fight with. I can't wait to see her hardon run down her skinny jeans. 😝

LMFAO. Yo you guys are killing me.
 
Cialis is still kickin from last night. She said some interesting things today like she has more blood flow down there, and every time she went to wipe after peeing her clit got super hard, very quickly. She almost considered masturbating in the stall at work if it wasn't for the next stall being occupied. Tonight's results speak for themselves as well. I timed it! I got her off through oral in under 1 minute, 21 seconds. I did this 2 more times, with the last one stimulating her gspot (she squirted during this one; which is something I haven't seen since 2007). Sex came next, and I was seamlessly hitting every spot she liked in there without using any special positions or maneuvers or anything. She mentioned that she was close to a vaginal orgasm (which is something she never had before), but I blew my load too quickly. Ohh well! I think 3 to 1 is a good ratio. lol
 
acromegaly;668644 said:
might as well start her clit pumping

Heh LOL ..

They do have that though ... a usual treatment would be at least 6 to 12 months of good dedication .. with apparently some serious horniness after each session, .. like them wearing around those LeLo balls with the rattling weights inside.. there's going to be 'trouble' afterwards .. ;)

MoreThanLuck;668746 said:
I've already started her on a hanging program for her clit. She's hanging about 12 lbs every night. The eventual goal is to have someone to sword fight with. I can't wait to see her hardon run down her skinny jeans. 😝

LOL ..

Don't, but do, .. but don't, .. check out Andractim DHT Gel for applying directly to the clitoral glans. And then jump clear because it has alcohol in it and can be stingy. DHT can be 30 times more bioactive than testosterone, and makes Enormous size gains for a clitoris ... like shockingly fast. IIRC it's on the order of .28 inches per month. This would be an impressive gain even for a penis, but since very very very few people are aiming for an 8 inch clitoris, .28 inches per month is like 'going to Plaid'.

A usual treatment would be between three and six weeks, tops ... probably being in the 3 to 4 weeks range for most women. Then stop to try it out for a while.

If the clitoral glans can already physically erect above the hood (its own clitoral hood ... not your entire city zone, .. zomg there's a different sort of 1950s sci-fi movie) then it's already large enough to receive contact pressure during normal sex and any use of Andractim, etc, could be big error. -- A 'micro-clitoris' which cannot erect above its own hood would be a good candidate though.

Additional cutting edge ... called that because messing with it can 'cut' you .. , one might also create advantageous changes to the Gspot (internal clitoral complex) and the very top of the clitoral crura (at the introitus/vestibule) by applying the gel to those exact areas as well .. trying not to get it anywhere else, and trying to not have the chick be excited by any of it to the point of her lubrication making the application run to other areas. The labial lips can be reactive to this substance too .. so if you get it on the wrong spots you could get meatcurtains from it. Just be quick and 'clinical' about it .. and save all the sexytime for later after it's absorbed in.

Specifically as a graphic example ... you'd be trying to get it on the glans, introitus, and Gspot areas (the top/front/and back of the main clitoral glans complex) of an area no wider than the 'TED G' of the 'exciTED Girl' area from the middle graphic here
Until 2009, the human clitoris was an absolute mystery

Also bear in mind that there's a such thing as Prolactin Rebound ... I was going to drop a link for it but the internet gets dumber every day. What it is .. is the reaction of prolactin overproduction because of dopamine withdrawal. -- It means that if you, or more to the point .. your chick .. orgasms too much/too often (yeah, that's a Thing) then it decreases how often she'll want to have sex, and ... ironically ... (since it messes with oxytocin as well) can also increase feelings of dissatisfaction with the relationship as a whole.

Always leave them wanting more? Probably the best line to draw would be to make sure they orgasm, but have it be spiritually/emotionally fulfilling as well (so there's another level going on), .. with some after-sex 'coupling'/'petting' too .. to set psychological/oxytocin neurochemical "anchors" of being madly happy with you, .. but not making them orgasm too much .. and not using orgasm toys afterwards/when they're not with you ... if at all possible.

I looked it up as dopamine prolactin withdrawal and found this, good link, scholarly on the matter. (Unfamiliar with the rest of the website one way or another, just caught the one link off a websearch)


The Dark Side of the Big

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Asanon;668779 said:
check out Andractim DHT Gel for applying directly to the clitoral glans.

Yes, I'm very familiar with Andractim DHT Gel. I would never actually give this to my wife as DHT is the reason we have those special 'Male secondary characteristics' like deepening of the voice, hair all over the place, etc. I still very much love her femininity. :)
 
MoreThanLuck;668781 said:
Yes, I'm very familiar with Andractim DHT Gel. I would never actually give this to my wife as DHT is the reason we have those special 'Male secondary characteristics' like deepening of the voice, hair all over the place, etc. I still very much love her femininity. :)

Well, .. missing that I essentially said don't do it .. one would be dabbing a tiny amount right onto the clitoris, not rubbing full dosages into the chest and thighs. The difference in amount is like 1/625th of a normal dose. And that difference in math would tend to aggregate on a per dose/per day basis, in a month there would be a 18,750x to 37,500x difference in the amount taken/metabolized. No chick is going to be joining The Oak Ridge Boys band from anything happening there. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qK-9eIF2yI&feature=youtu.be&t=112

Realistically, on a whole-body basis a chick would get a bigger androgen boost from eating a macadamia nut, standing in sunlight for a few seconds, or taking a multivitamin with some zinc in it.
 
Asanon;668787 said:
Well, .. missing that I essentially said don't do it .. one would be dabbing a tiny amount right onto the clitoris, not rubbing full dosages into the chest and thighs. The difference in amount is like 1/625th of a normal dose. And that difference in math would tend to aggregate on a per dose/per day basis, in a month there would be a 18,750x to 37,500x difference in the amount taken/metabolized. No chick is going to be joining The Oak Ridge Boys band from anything happening there. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qK-9eIF2yI&feature=youtu.be&t=112

Realistically, on a whole-body basis a chick would get a bigger androgen boost from eating a macadamia nut, standing in sunlight for a few seconds, or taking a multivitamin with some zinc in it.

Great information, quality posts as always. Very informative and thank you for sharing.
 
doublelongdaddy;668843 said:
This thread blew the fuck up! Wow!

And it's good because otherwise MoreThanLuck will have given a huge dosage to his wife with possible bad side effects. He should now know not to take Cialis to a big level
 
kyomoto;668873 said:
And it's good because otherwise MoreThanLuck will have given a huge dosage to his wife with possible bad side effects. He should now know not to take Cialis to a big level

You doubt.
 
kyomoto;668873 said:
And it's good because otherwise MoreThanLuck will have given a huge dosage to his wife with possible bad side effects. He should now know not to take Cialis to a big level

Naaa, I would've been fine. I make precise measurements for myself, and triple check for my wife. If no reaction occurred at the level the doctor prescribes it at (1 pill = 20 mg = 0.6 cc), then there would have been no need to go any further. Now that I know for a fact 1 pill works, I might use it again in the future. In the meantime, I'm gonna add it to my arsenal of sexual tips and tricks and continue on with PE.
 
MoreThanLuck;669043 said:
Naaa, I would've been fine. I make precise measurements for myself, and triple check for my wife. If no reaction occurred at the level the doctor prescribes it at (1 pill = 20 mg = 0.6 cc), then there would have been no need to go any further. Now that I know for a fact 1 pill works, I might use it again in the future. In the meantime, I'm gonna add it to my arsenal of sexual tips and tricks and continue on with PE.

Alright man take care.
 
Do you give her anything else? You know most things that work for men like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]titan[/words] pills would also work for women right?
 
There's a whole laundry list of stuff that can, might/might not, effect sexual response and intensity, can depend upon the person ...

Ginkgo biloba (120 twice daily) can upregulate the release of nitric oxide synthase, the enzyme that interacts with arginine to produce nitric oxide.

Korean red ginseng is very similar, can upregulate mechanism increasing production of nitric oxide/blood flow to the genitals. The dose for a chick is like 1.5g per day, note whether the dosage level is too stimulating, she could stay 'spooled up' all the time, that'd be great for a rainy weekend in bed, but for a Wednesday at the office if might seem like horniness or just anxiety.

Adding damiana leaf (check my spelling) to ^ GK and KRG can cause increased libido, wetness, frequency of sex, frequency of orgasms, and increased clitoral sensation. Not bad.

L-arginine fuels the generation of NO by nitric oxide synthase. NO-cGMP action is responsible for genital sexual arousal response in both genders .. nitric oxide synthase utilizes L-arginine and oxygen as substrates to produce nitric oxide and citrulline. Taking L-arginine directly can supply this for a short time thereafter, for a longer term effect (and a larger reserve pool of arginine in the body) the form called Citrulline Malate is better at that. Preferably the "2:1 Complex" version if you can find it.

Icariin (horny goat weed) blocks phosphodiesterase-5 (PDE5) .. same thing viagra, cialis etc does .. weaker effect but same mechanism. Strongest form is probably a product called GH-2 that comes with two bottles, one is a more conventional extract, and the other is a water extract .. each process yielding different active components from the source.

Choline and vitamin B5 are important for female sexual response, forming acetylcholine as the primary neurochemical driver for nerves and skeletal smoothmuscles used during prolonged sex and orgasm risetimes. High libido and pre-orgasm sexual responses (lordosis, tension, quivering) are dependent on sufficient/available cholinergic function (high levels of acetylcholine are strongly associated with robust sexual response).

Any chick with fatigued adrenal glands, and that's most people everywhere, respond to a 50mg morning dose of DHEA with dramatic enhanced sexuality, significantly increased frequency of sexual thoughts and interest (libido at all levels), satisfaction with both the mental and physical aspects of sexuality, and improved 'sense of well-being' (this meta-feelings stuff can be important for females), and lower levels of depression and anxiety. Downside might be some acne. But damn that's a big stick.

Yohimbine is supposed to increase genital sensitivity in both men and women by stimulating the sacral nerves. IMO, yohimbine shouldn't be taken long-term, but since the best sacral effect is to take it immediately before sex, there's no real reason to be on-it all the time anyway. This seems like the sort of thing that'd make a brilliant sex lube. I did a quick search and found several products out there, not familiar with any of them.

Other stuff ... Ashwagandha, Maca, etc, ... it's notable that everything listed has overlapping effects with each other .. they tend to boost or compliment the other compounds, so if you're looking for pre-made products you'll find a lot of them with two or three of these.

There's other stuff I'm missing, those are the main suspects. Also there's some alien sexwater called Bremelanotide PT-141 ...

Men's Journal Magazine: ...it took hold. I felt a great surge of affection (greater than any regular level of arousal). My body tingled and I developed an erection that wouldn’t quit. For two hours the drug wouldn’t let me out of its grasp — nor my wife out of mine.

Females: Women who took part in trials said that they felt a "tingling and a throbbing" along with "a strong desire to have sex." For most, effects generally do not take place until a couple hours post injection, peaking around the four hour mark.

Yeah, the downside is it's an injectable. But the additional downside used to be that no one could get any of it. Apparently now it's out there, and not very pricey either.
 
Asanon;669087 said:
There's a whole laundry list of stuff that can, might/might not, effect sexual response and intensity, can depend upon the person ...

Ginkgo biloba (120 twice daily) can upregulate the release of nitric oxide synthase, the enzyme that interacts with arginine to produce nitric oxide.

Korean red ginseng is very similar, can upregulate mechanism increasing production of nitric oxide/blood flow to the genitals. The dose for a chick is like 1.5g per day, note whether the dosage level is too stimulating, she could stay 'spooled up' all the time, that'd be great for a rainy weekend in bed, but for a Wednesday at the office if might seem like horniness or just anxiety.

Adding damiana leaf (check my spelling) to ^ GK and KRG can cause increased libido, wetness, frequency of sex, frequency of orgasms, and increased clitoral sensation. Not bad.

L-arginine fuels the generation of NO by nitric oxide synthase. NO-cGMP action is responsible for genital sexual arousal response in both genders .. nitric oxide synthase utilizes L-arginine and oxygen as substrates to produce nitric oxide and citrulline. Taking L-arginine directly can supply this for a short time thereafter, for a longer term effect (and a larger reserve pool of arginine in the body) the form called Citrulline Malate is better at that. Preferably the "2:1 Complex" version if you can find it.

Icariin (horny goat weed) blocks phosphodiesterase-5 (PDE5) .. same thing viagra, cialis etc does .. weaker effect but same mechanism. Strongest form is probably a product called GH-2 that comes with two bottles, one is a more conventional extract, and the other is a water extract .. each process yielding different active components from the source.

Choline and vitamin B5 are important for female sexual response, forming acetylcholine as the primary neurochemical driver for nerves and skeletal smoothmuscles used during prolonged sex and orgasm risetimes. High libido and pre-orgasm sexual responses (lordosis, tension, quivering) are dependent on sufficient/available cholinergic function (high levels of acetylcholine are strongly associated with robust sexual response).

Any chick with fatigued adrenal glands, and that's most people everywhere, respond to a 50mg morning dose of DHEA with dramatic enhanced sexuality, significantly increased frequency of sexual thoughts and interest (libido at all levels), satisfaction with both the mental and physical aspects of sexuality, and improved 'sense of well-being' (this meta-feelings stuff can be important for females), and lower levels of depression and anxiety. Downside might be some acne. But damn that's a big stick.

Yohimbine is supposed to increase genital sensitivity in both men and women by stimulating the sacral nerves. IMO, yohimbine shouldn't be taken long-term, but since the best sacral effect is to take it immediately before sex, there's no real reason to be on-it all the time anyway. This seems like the sort of thing that'd make a brilliant sex lube. I did a quick search and found several products out there, not familiar with any of them.

Other stuff ... Ashwagandha, Maca, etc, ... it's notable that everything listed has overlapping effects with each other .. they tend to boost or compliment the other compounds, so if you're looking for pre-made products you'll find a lot of them with two or three of these.

There's other stuff I'm missing, those are the main suspects. Also there's some alien sexwater called Bremelanotide PT-141 ...



Yeah, the downside is it's an injectable. But the additional downside used to be that no one could get any of it. Apparently now it's out there, and not very pricey either.

It's amazing what such herbs and medication can do to your body :L I'll probably be using damania leaf later in life thanks
 
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