Why Don't You Have A LengthMaster or a BathMate?

[DLD]

I would really like to know, what is holding you back from getting a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] or [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]? Let me know.

 

[chargains]

I do want to own at least one of them (wouldn't mind owning both to be honest) but the biggest factor for me right now would be a financial thing. Not that they are terribly expensive compared to most things people spend their money on, it's just that right now my disposable income doesn't like the pricing lol. So for the time being I am going to be doing manual only work which isn't so bad because I have only been serious about PE less than 6 months. I would probably get the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] first cause it seems like a fun device to use but goal wise, the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] would be the best investment for me.

Hopefully if I am able to get one anytime soon, my living conditions will permit their use.

 

[cladre60]

Explaining to my wife why I want/need one and justifying the cost to her. She may take the whole idea of PE wrong.

If I got them for free (or managed to free up and then stash away the money so she thought it was free) I guess she couldn't complain about cost.

I'd find a way to buy a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] right now if she knew about my PE and approved of it.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

I'd find a way to buy a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] right now if she knew about my PE and approved of it.

my suggestion would be to n-e-v-e-r divulge any PE doings...e-v-e-r

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

my suggestion would be to n-e-v-e-r divulge any PE doings...e-v-e-r

fecking bad, sharing our gains is ok, but sharing why and how we get bigger is a bad idea..... Lets call this a Paradox Right?

 

[cladre60]

my suggestion would be to n-e-v-e-r divulge any PE doings...e-v-e-r

She's bound to notice eventually if I start making decent gains and will eventually have to find out. I wish I could find a way to tell her now so I don't have to sneak it around her.

 

[cladre60]

fecking bad, sharing our gains is ok, but sharing why and how we get bigger is a bad idea..... Lets call this a Paradox Right?

My opinion is that when she finds out if she totally loses it, tries to tell me that I'm wrong, and says she doesn't want to be with me then I'll move on with my life. It's something I want, it isn't hurting anyone, and if she's got a serious issue with it then I don't need that in my life. If I was going to the gym 5x a week and getting my body back into to shape she wouldn't complain one bit. I understand the insane jealousy some women get for irrational reasons but it's nothing to complain about.

And how is she to explain a divorce if that happened? "My ex husband made his penis larger to where it was above average size. It was still perfectly usable, nothing wrong with it at all, but I divorced him because if it."

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

She's bound to notice eventually if I start making decent gains and will eventually have to find out. I wish I could find a way to tell her now so I don't have to sneak it around her.

letting her know why you are getting bigger,can be quite strange for her dont you think most people thinks that penis wont change its size once is fully developed...id call it late Genitalia Development...LOL

But yeah can be hard to explain no doubt..

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

My opinion is that when she finds out if she totally loses it, tries to tell me that I'm wrong, and says she doesn't want to be with me then I'll move on with my life. It's something I want, it isn't hurting anyone, and if she's got a serious issue with it then I don't need that in my life. If I was going to the gym 5x a week and getting my body back into to shape she wouldn't complain one bit. I understand the insane jealousy some women get for irrational reasons but it's nothing to complain about.

And how is she to explain a divorce if that happened? "My ex husband made his penis larger to where it was above average size. It was still perfectly usable, nothing wrong with it at all, but I divorced him because if it."

you're assuming she's rational and thinks logically? That's not any chapter in The Vagina Owners Manual

 

[smitty2590]

My wife knows and is completely cool with it. When I told her she literally said makes since if that's what you want girls get bigger tits all the time and no one bats an eye.

I'm not saying all females are like this but mine is cool and I think it's be extremely hard to hide using a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] and all witha spouse. Everyone on here has a opinion but only you know your spouse and how she is. I say go with what you know man. Again not trying to start a pissing match but before people say oh well she will change bla bla well we've been together for 8 years and she knew about me and pe since like month 2. I dabbled with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] years back but didn't stay consistent because I hated it. When I started back up I let her know and she again said the same shit. She said it's cool with me so long as it's what you want but also said I personally am happy the way it is but never had any arguments or issues ever over this.

Hope this can help some guys who are in the fence about this issue. Also sorry I've been so inactive lately I'm work 14-16 hour days 7 days a week for this whole month and next haha.

 

[Adamtf1982]

She's bound to notice eventually if I start making decent gains and will eventually have to find out. I wish I could find a way to tell her now so I don't have to sneak it around her.

Just tell her!! Things will be so much easier, and better, if you do!! That's what I did! I've got somebody to cheer me on now!! I just told her, I want to start doing this.....and I'm going to......I'm doing it for me, and I hope you benefit too! She says she loves my progress!!

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

Just tell her!! Things will be so much easier, and better, if you do!! That's what I did! I've got somebody to cheer me on now!! I just told her, I want to start doing this.....and I'm going to......I'm doing it for me, and I hope you benefit too! She says she loves my progress!!

Wow thats support !

 

[Adamtf1982]

Wow thats support !

I agree! She's always been supportive, no matter what.....not just with PE, but every day shit...... But, if you commit to this.....you're starting a process, to change the one most intimate thing, and, in most cases anyway, the one thing that you and her only share basically........so, in my mind, there are only two scenarios..........either you half ass, and she never notices, which means, you really didn't gain.........or, hey.....women aren't stupid......they know, as a 40yr old man, it's not going to naturally grow!! So, if you go all in, and you do get substantial gains, and don't get caught red handed, or from your equipment........she WILL notice! If she doesn't, what's the point people!!!! I mean, how can a married man, have a 2" gain goal, and try to hide the process it will take to get there???? I've always wondered what the difference is with some people.......the difference between some of us, who have made substantial gains, and those that claim to have been doing PE for years, without gains at all.........I'm beginning to wonder, if that isn't the difference! I know how hard I've worked for the gains I've gotten, in the last 6 months, and I'm pretty confident, that there's no way I could've gotten them, without being transparent about the whole thing! There is no way, I could've kept up my aggressive routine, and kept it a secret!! So.....lol, I think from now on, when somebody asks, "how have you gained so much, in such a short time", I'm gonna just say, "I told my wife"! 😂 I'm not trying to discourage anybody, that for whatever reason, just absolutely can't share it.....I say get in what you can, when you can......but, I am ENCOURAGING most guys out there, that are hiding it, just cause they are too awkward about it, to discuss that shit!!! I promise, it will pay off, and I really believe, you will gain more faster!!! Hey......just my 2 cents........good luck brothers......we'll all get there, if we put in the work!!!!

 

[oned44]

With the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] I was told by the company they do not ship to my country. So when I traveled to Europe I bought it.

 

[ThatDude512]

I agree! She's always been supportive, no matter what.....not just with PE, but every day shit...... But, if you commit to this.....you're starting a process, to change the one most intimate thing, and, in most cases anyway, the one thing that you and her only share basically........so, in my mind, there are only two scenarios..........either you half ass, and she never notices, which means, you really didn't gain.........or, hey.....women aren't stupid......they know, as a 40yr old man, it's not going to naturally grow!! So, if you go all in, and you do get substantial gains, and don't get caught red handed, or from your equipment........she WILL notice! If she doesn't, what's the point people!!!! I mean, how can a married man, have a 2" gain goal, and try to hide the process it will take to get there???? I've always wondered what the difference is with some people.......the difference between some of us, who have made substantial gains, and those that claim to have been doing PE for years, without gains at all.........I'm beginning to wonder, if that isn't the difference! I know how hard I've worked for the gains I've gotten, in the last 6 months, and I'm pretty confident, that there's no way I could've gotten them, without being transparent about the whole thing! There is no way, I could've kept up my aggressive routine, and kept it a secret!! So.....lol, I think from now on, when somebody asks, "how have you gained so much, in such a short time", I'm gonna just say, "I told my wife"! 😂 I'm not trying to discourage anybody, that for whatever reason, just absolutely can't share it.....I say get in what you can, when you can......but, I am ENCOURAGING most guys out there, that are hiding it, just cause they are too awkward about it, to discuss that shit!!! I promise, it will pay off, and I really believe, you will gain more faster!!! Hey......just my 2 cents........good luck brothers......we'll all get there, if we put in the work!!!!

I totally agree, my wife has seen my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], and she thought it was weird at first. Now she is cool with it, and I've gained 1 1/4" in length and 5/8" in girth in about two years and she isn't complaining (except about being sore) haha! She really likes the aesthetics and always wants to play with it which is a huge plus!

 

[SammyLo]

DLD, I definitely would like to get a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words]. Is there a waiting list or are they available for shipment?

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

yep the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] may squeeze the penis but what about the stretching ,the stretching is amazing...The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] suction is damn powerful too besides is not that hard to notice the temporary gains that can turn into permanent gains...

I dont think theres a perfect device theres always improvement. But you have used those devices and you have achieved great results! gains is what really matters in the end

 

[seven_wants_ten]

If I was going to the gym 5x a week and getting my body back into to shape she wouldn't complain one bit.

Why aren't you already doing this? I know this is a PE forum, so our priorities can get a bit fucked, but lifting is seriously one of the most important things a man can ever do.

 

[stillwantmore]

I don't currently pump.

 

[catalinv]

waiting on the new [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] devices !

 

[DLD]

DLD, I definitely would like to get a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words]. Is there a waiting list or are they available for shipment?

Yes, they are in stock and shipping.

 

[DLD]

What are the reasons you do not have these devices? I heard some answers but are there others?

 

[ThatDude512]

What are the reasons you do not have these devices? I heard some answers but are there others?

I think about getting a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] here and there, but I usually just use my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for stretching. I know that it would speed up gains, but my eq wouldn't stay decent. If I over do it with extending and then using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], my eq can suffer as is, so I don't want to add more to my plate at the moment.

 

[cladre60]

So for all the don't tell/do tell your wife comments I'm waiting until I have some solid gains before I say anything. When I've got some proof that what I'm doing is working I'll be able to show her I'm not wasting my time. That will make it an easier conversation. I know there will be jealousy because she can't make her breasts bigger without making the rest of her bigger as well but she'll get over it. If she doesn't then I've got some serious thinking to do and making myself happy will be my #1 priority.

Why aren't you already doing this? I know this is a PE forum, so our priorities can get a bit fucked, but lifting is seriously one of the most important things a man can ever do.

Time, no decent gyms nearby, and money not only for a gym membership but how I eat when I'm working out. It gets very expensive when I'm trying to eat clean and stay full. During one 3 month span I ate 8oz of steak and 3 eggs as an after dinner snack every night cause I was sick of trying to eat chicken twice a day. That's not cheap to do.

I need to get another bike and at least start riding again just for some exercise. A guy I work with was going to start doing MMA training again and I asked to join him but he hasn't. He said I'd be a good sparring partner since we're close to the same weight and the guys he used to train with are 30-40lbs bigger than him. Maybe I should start bugging him about it, I have a lot of aggression to get out.

 

[DLD]

my suggestion would be to n-e-v-e-r divulge any PE doings...e-v-e-r

I am not sure this thread is working out the way we imagined Lets hope for the response we are looking for

 

[Munto]

During one 3 month span I ate 8oz of steak and 3 eggs as an after dinner snack every night cause I was sick of trying to eat chicken twice a day. That's not cheap to do.

Sounds like a massive mTOR overkill, nothing healthy can come from there

 

[cladre60]

Sounds like a massive mTOR overkill, nothing healthy can come from there

Gaining almost 15lbs in 4 months came out of that. Probably wasn't the healthiest thing but I was in my late 20s and still thought I was invincible.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

I am not sure this thread is working out the way we imagined Lets hope for the response we are looking for

lol, I'm not sure what to do

 

[ma999]

If it wasn't for the cost I'd get an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] again. But I'm so waiting on the new [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] before making my mind up on any other purchases.

 

[seeking8.5x6]

I am not sure this thread is working out the way we imagined Lets hope for the response we are looking for

i dropped too much on shaving stuff and artisan awesomeness lately. Need to pull my reigns in.

 

[Sinthious]

Money i think is the biggest factor PE tools are not cheap for safe ones anyways, Going for an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] and a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] is easily more than i can convince myself let alone my wife to spend. Only reason i will be getting the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] is the wife buying it as a bday gift in a few months.

As for everyone's talk on telling wifes/girlfriends I would say tell them! If you care about them and want someone in your life that can make you happy don't hide things. I told my wife that i wanted to start doing PE before hand and had a good talk with her, the first reaction was her asking if i thought her breast were too small and if i wanted her to make them bigger, had a good laugh when i told her we can try playing with them to try. Its only been a week since i started but she has really opened up to the idea even offering to help where she can.

 

[DLD]

Alright, lets do it this way. Who does not have the money to afford one of these pieces of equipment? Now I expect honesty! If you are poor and can not possibly afford one please post your situation. Big Schwanz Acht is giving His prize from this month to someone who really needs it. If this is you let us know. Remember, we are Brothers helping Brothers, please be honest!

 

[GottaGetAGrip]

It took me forever to get my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] due to funds. I'm a full-time student and work part time but I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I promise to support the forums when I am able.

Would love to try the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words] some day.

 

[Sinthious]

Alright, lets do it this way. Who does not have the money to afford one of these pieces of equipment? Now I expect honesty! If you are poor and can not possibly afford one please post your situation. Big Schwanz Acht is giving His prize from this month to someone who really needs it. If this is you let us know. Remember, we are Brothers helping Brothers, please be honest!

That is very generous of him, just goes to show how great the community here is. I would love to get it as i know it will be a long while before i get the tools, but i know there are more out there who could use the help more than I.

 

[DLD]

Well let us wait a bit longer and see what other replies bring. Yes, Sinthious, the Brotherhood is one of the most charitable places you will find. We have a genuine love for one another.

 

[chargains]

The amount of good things coming from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] never ceases to amaze me. I know I was one of the guys that cited a financial thing but it's just a condition of this next step in life. A large percentage of the people in my position are tight for disposable income but it hopefully won't stay that way for too much longer. At least to the next decade. Hopefully someone out there will be able to put some great use to this charity. It may be the thing someone really needs to firmly continue their pe journey.

 

[DLD]

Maybe a Brother can put forth another Brother as someone who can use this.

 

[Adamtf1982]

I own, and love my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words], especially with the wine vac! The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words], is really what I'm wanting next.......I just honestly haven't been able to. I'm not "poor".....I've just got so much going on right now, that I haven't been able to justify the cost. I've got a1yr old, that has been living at the doctor's office.....just got over pneumonia.......about to have tubes put in his ears......hopefully after this is all over with, I'll grab one. I've got a lot of other stuff going on too.....replacing done flooring in my house, lol, the list goes on! But, it's not for any other reason, than being able to justify spending the money right now. I think it's an awesome tool!!

 

[cladre60]

That is very generous of him, just goes to show how great the community here is. I would love to get it as i know it will be a long while before i get the tools, but i know there are more out there who could use the help more than I.

Same here. I know there's people worse off than I am.

We get by paycheck to paycheck as long as nothing major comes up. Now that I made that statement the car is gonna break down this week or her daughter will break her glasses or something lol.

 

[DLD]

Someone has got to be a poor! Shit, I am poor! Have no shame, tell us your situation and get a damn tool for free!

 

[Sinthious]

Someone has got to be a poor! Shit, I am poor! Have no shame, tell us your situation and get a damn tool for free!

At this point i think everyone wants to be modest lol. I will just come out and say I want it, you should be the judge of the situations. I just had 17,000 in car work done after hitting a deer and still have urgent repairs on my wifes car, have major repairs for the home those are the major things on my plate right now. I dont consider myself poor as i have food on the table and a roof over my head.

 

[cladre60]

Someone has got to be a poor! Shit, I am poor! Have no shame, tell us your situation and get a damn tool for free!

Okay.....

This month's rent is finally getting paid today...17 days late.

Electric bill is 2 months behind but I think we can get it halfway caught up this week.

Exactly 2 weeks ago we were scheduled for our natural gas to be shut off the following Monday morning but we skipped paying the rent in order to keep the house heated and have hot water.

Trying to get some OT at work to get these things paid down faster but it's not easy to get extra hours.

Yes I'm being honest.

 

[smitty2590]

Okay.....

This month's rent is finally getting paid today...17 days late.

Electric bill is 2 months behind but I think we can get it halfway caught up this week.

Exactly 2 weeks ago we were scheduled for our natural gas to be shut off the following Monday morning but we skipped paying the rent in order to keep the house heated and have hot water.

Trying to get some OT at work to get these things paid down faster but it's not easy to get extra hours.

Yes I'm being honest.

So I just want to say how great this is. I had a member do this for me back in December. I had been unemployed for months and just could not afford it. I'm currently back working which is why I have not been as active as normal, I took whatever job I could get and that just so happened to be a job working 12 hours a day 7 days a week so there's that.

As far as receiving the gift goes I'll forever be grateful. I absolutely love my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] and use the thing religiously. Truly hope the one who needs it the most is who receives this, I personally know this same situation had helped my pe journey so much and side note my wife loves me using my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] before sex also haha so that keeps me consistent as well as me knowing someone gave me their winning so I feel I have to stay using it as much as possible to get the most out of it for them basically. I dont know why but I felt the need to say all that.

Dld and the other brothers here are [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] are amazing men and truly have a passion for just helping others. Love this community keep it up guys.

 

[DLD]

Okay.....

This month's rent is finally getting paid today...17 days late.

Electric bill is 2 months behind but I think we can get it halfway caught up this week.

Exactly 2 weeks ago we were scheduled for our natural gas to be shut off the following Monday morning but we skipped paying the rent in order to keep the house heated and have hot water.

Trying to get some OT at work to get these things paid down faster but it's not easy to get extra hours.

Yes I'm being honest.

PM me your address, you have been gifted.

 

[Sinthious]

congrats cladre60 Hope it helps you on your journey to your goals.

 

[cladre60]

You guys are awesome. Seriously. I'm blushing.

DLD I messaged you.

 

[DLD]

You guys are awesome. Seriously. I'm blushing.

DLD I messaged you.

Got it and returned the message.

 

[steveguy]

I'm a college student, tuition isn't cheap.

Could buy three length masters for the price of a book that is required to have.

 

[DLD]

I'm a college student, tuition isn't cheap.

Could buy three length masters for the price of a book that is required to have.

Why not buy the book off eBay? You could get it so much cheaper and that would give you money to spare.

 

[cladre60]

Why not buy the book off eBay? You could get it so much cheaper and that would give you money to spare.

You don't know exactly which book you need until the first day of class (there's "new editions" all the time), you'll need the book the first week of class, and you won't get it for a week and a half ordering online unless you do the expedited shipping which at that point you might not save anything.

I had that exact situation happen to me with at least 1 class every semester. It's happening more and more too. The professors get pressured by the schools to upgrade to the new editions if they're resistant to change. Some of them co-authored the book and every revision so they're making money from it changing every year. I compared editions of a book one time and it was such a drastic change I thought I was looking at 2 different books on the same subject.

It's all a money making racket.