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Wonder if Jesus or his apostles masturbate or had sex once they started following Jesus..
The 90 day 2021 No Masturbation Challenge
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Big Schwanz Acht
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Disassociating masturbation from adult entertainment is a tough one. Masturbating without objectifying is also difficult, if not impossible. Masturbation and lust seem to go hand-in-hand and when you're 'lusting' it seems that nothing else matters...the 'prime-directive' is planting your seed at whatever cost at that point. I couldn't imagine being able to 'finish' while thinking about sunsets and rainbows, but I've definitely been able to by using my imagination and focusing on how good it feels vs. what I'm actually doing to another human being.
I think we grew-up in the same era where finding a Playboy, (or Penthouse if we were really lucky) was our 1st experience with ourselves. I think we're very fortunate that we didn't have the prevalence of adult entertainment when we were young, cuz it's rewiring the brains of this generations men.
I think we grew-up in the same era where finding a Playboy, (or Penthouse if we were really lucky) was our 1st experience with ourselves. I think we're very fortunate that we didn't have the prevalence of adult entertainment when we were young, cuz it's rewiring the brains of this generations men.
LONGERDICK7+;727960 said:
Most of the disciples were married so they did have sexual relations. Masturbation is a tough thing to know as it is only mentioned once, in very loose terms in the old testament. I think if God truly thought masturbation was wrong He would have made mention of this, but He did not. Now, I do not want anyone to take away the belief that if the Bible does not say it is wrong than it is not wrong, that is not the point here. We all have a conscious and it is in place so we make health and good choices based on our beliefs and what we feel to be right or wrong for ourselves. So the Bible is not an all inclusive book of rules, it gives definitive commandments but beside that the laws of the Old Testament are no longer valid in the New Testament since Jesus came in the Flesh. Coveting, adultery, homosexuality, sodomy and a slew of other rules/laws around sexual conduct but no one word against masturbation, I truly do not think it would have been left out if it were sinful. The problem with me and masturbation is the adult entertainment, not the masturbation but I see not point in masturbation with the stimuli. So my addition is not so much that of masturbation but more of looking at lewd material.
Big Schwanz Acht;727962 said:
So true! We had it EASY! Today our children, without our constant moderation, would have no chance. adult entertainment has become as accepted as television or newspapers, it is so blindly accepted that even religious people, priests, ministers, etc. think it not to be a sin. It is terrible! I hate that I am a part of it and I also regret that I pushed so many men in that direction but I too was deluded by the secular deceptiveness. So happy I have awoken.
I am not going to promise God that I will not do this again, that is just a way to not only set myself up to fail but also injure my relationship with God. I have been saying, I will always do my best, I will always try my hardest and if I mess up I will always come to You immediately. I do feel guilt when I mess up but when I reflect on who I used to be and how much I used to watch adult entertainment, hours and hours, everyday I know that I have done a great thing when I can make it 2 weeks. 90 days is a big goal and I am still dedicated to it but I will be proud of any progress I make.
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doublelongdaddy;728046 said:
that right, jerking off can be meaningless when theres nothing to stimulate our brains,evenso i have done it using the mind, mental images etc.Can be real hard to stop masturbating when thers no one around to share our desires whit.
But jerking off once a month well i wouldnt see that as a bad thing...
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hell I havent masturbated in prob 45 days, so does having sex with your spouse count against it, if not hell I may even get in on this.
doublelongdaddy;727959 said:
I know if I get to day 7 without an orgasm my brain is preoccupied with sex almost constantly. By day 10 I am physically uncomfortable as if my prostate is saying "hey asshole, I'm full! Empty me!" I try not to go that long ever without sex or masturbation but it does happen occasionally. My body is telling my mind something needs to be taken care of. It's the same as if I need to pee. Are you going to try to not pee for 2 days?
Masturbation in itself is not wrong. Like I said earlier though if you can't without adult entertainment at all then you probably need a break. If you aren't in a sexual relationship you will eventually need to masturbate if for nothing more than to empty your prostate.
You may need to force yourself to just go 2 or 3 weeks AND stop doing kegels while doing it. When you do masturbate it'll be easier to reach orgasm without adult entertainment. Then reset the clock and go a few more weeks, this time only stopping kegels during the final week. A few cycles of this should help reboot your brain into being able to masturbate simply for the pleasure of it.
If you feel 90 days is still necessary then go for it. Maybe it's just a 90 day plan to rewire your brain to not need adult entertainment because it seems like that's what you're going for. I hope it works out for you.
Or does the lack of self control refer to going outside of your marriage? Do not covet thy neighbor's wife is a commandment and the 10 commandments spell out exactly what is right or wrong. If Satan was to tempt you he would try to get you to go against one of the explicitly spelled out wrongs, not an arbitrary one.
At least that's my interpretation of it.
At least that's my interpretation of it.
cladre60;728131 said:
Kind of. The evil one works in crafty ways. He does not come right out with the temptation to the sin. He gives slight, barely noticeable suggestions that lead to small noticed steps to the bigger sins. If you read in the Masturbation Confessional posts you will see the long journey that is made from innocence to failure. Satan used subtlety to cause mayhem.
And Brothers should also be very conscious of the 7 deadly sins. Now, understand, none of these are sins but they are acts/state of mind that if not kept in check will bring you to sin. People see lust as being wrong, that is a silly statement as without lust we could never find a compatible mate. Where does lust go from innocence to sin? When you covet. The second you covert you have crossed the line. Again, pride, nothing wrong with it, it is a positive emotion that helps us accomplish things in life and adds to our self confidence but too much pride we start to become egotistical which leads to sin. I will do one more, anger. There is nothing wrong with anger, Jesus was angry when He flipped tables over in the temple. Anger becomes sinful when we hold on to it and refuse to forgive or we seek revenge. Jesus gave us very clear and concise understandings of what is right and what is wrong. We can not add or take away from this nor can we change them through opinion or justification. And understand, these are set in place to give you a good life, not a punishment.
doublelongdaddy;728153 said:
I'm in no way trying to criticize what you're trying to do and it seems like you know that. I feel that if we weren't meant to masturbate that it wouldn't be so easy to do. It's not as if it's a temptation to be avoided, it's simply a part of life. An orgasm, either during sex or masturbation, has positive physical and mental benefits. You know all this already though.
I personally feel that if you reach a point where you can't masturbate or even become aroused while alone without the aid of adult entertainment then there's a problem. You personally have an issue with adult entertainment and the industry and are more than entitled to feel the way you do. Plus it sounds like you do have a bit of a problem.
I really hope you can nip this in the bud and over the coming months are able to masturbate (with or without a [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]Fleshlight[/words] or similar) without needing adult entertainment to be aroused and to reach orgasm.
I should try to cut back on adult entertainment when I masturbate as well. I don't masturbate too often but I enjoy pornn pretty much every time. It's difficult to maintain a full erection while pumping without visual stimulation though. My mind is already preoccupied with pulling on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] while holding it in varying positions and counting.... without watching some adult entertainment while doing it I can't maintain good EQ. However I'm not masturbating after, just using it to assist in my work.
But because of all this discussion I'm going to try to masturbate without adult entertainment the next time. Hopefully my wife and I are able to work around our schedules well enough that it's a few weeks before I need to
cladre60;728160 said:I'm in no way trying to criticize what you're trying to do and it seems like you know that. I feel that if we weren't meant to masturbate that it wouldn't be so easy to do. It's not as if it's a temptation to be avoided, it's simply a part of life. An orgasm, either during sex or masturbation, has positive physical and mental benefits. You know all this already though.
I personally feel that if you reach a point where you can't masturbate or even become aroused while alone without the aid of adult entertainment then there's a problem. You personally have an issue with adult entertainment and the industry and are more than entitled to feel the way you do. Plus it sounds like you do have a bit of a problem.
I really hope you can nip this in the bud and over the coming months are able to masturbate (with or without a [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]Fleshlight[/words] or similar) without needing adult entertainment to be aroused and to reach orgasm.
I should try to cut back on adult entertainment when I masturbate as well. I don't masturbate too often but I enjoy pornn pretty much every time. It's difficult to maintain a full erection while pumping without visual stimulation though. My mind is already preoccupied with pulling on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] while holding it in varying positions and counting.... without watching some adult entertainment while doing it I can't maintain good EQ. However I'm not masturbating after, just using it to assist in my work.
But because of all this discussion I'm going to try to masturbate without adult entertainment the next time. Hopefully my wife and I are able to work around our schedules well enough that it's a few weeks before I need to
I have little interstate in masturbation, my issue is with adult entertainment. The root problem is watching adult entertainment not the ending result, masturbation. Of course I can masturbate without any stimuli but to me that is not fun nor does it bring me pleasure. Science?, there is no reason that a man needs to ejaculate, the body will naturally perform this function if needed. And if this does not happen I might then take steps to make it happen for health reasons (which I am even starting to doubt are true.) If you don't know, I am doing this for Jesus and no one else so my issue is with sin and nothing more.
doublelongdaddy;728223 said:
Okay, I was a little confused about the exact reason then. I thought it was partially due to not being able to get aroused without adult entertainment.
Now I understand clearly. You've accomplished other goals that you've set for yourself so with the right mindset and determination you'll get this eventually. I doubt I can help in any way but I'm proud of anyone who sets a goal for the right reasons and makes it to (and past) the finish line.
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doublelongdaddy;728151 said:
yeah I think I will get in on this, I have noticed now, that I am usually semi erect or close to it in the after noon, now that I have started sleeping naked.
“One great inconvenience in reading the Scriptures, is our own vain curiosity. We lose much of the benefit which might otherwise be gathered from them, by pretending to nice disquisitions of difficult points, and labouring to bring to the standard of our own imperfect reason what we should be content to receive with the simplicity of a humble obedience, and place to the account of divine faith. If you would read them, and profit by that reading, you must do it with a submissive and humble, a sincere and teachable, disposition of mind; and account it a greater excellence to believe what God hath said, than to affect the reputation of learning, by singularity of opinions, and a bold attempt to bring down all He says to your own comprehension.”
-Thomas Kempis
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Whatever is going on, I wish you the best of strength DLD!
90 days or three months is a very strong goal, but as you wrote, it can take that amount of time for the body and mind to "reset."
And I like to concur with that fact; many changes just don't come over night. "Rome wasn't built in a day." A bit of a boring quote, but as I don't know the Bible very well and don't want to do any cherry picking, at least in a general sense, I quote something easier.
Stay strong Brother, don't stray!
90 days or three months is a very strong goal, but as you wrote, it can take that amount of time for the body and mind to "reset."
And I like to concur with that fact; many changes just don't come over night. "Rome wasn't built in a day." A bit of a boring quote, but as I don't know the Bible very well and don't want to do any cherry picking, at least in a general sense, I quote something easier.
Stay strong Brother, don't stray!
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doublelongdaddy;728684 said:
Starting all over,due to the fact that you knocked one off today, i have to jerk it everyday before my stretching session....
LONGERDICK7+;728689 said:
Yeah I did mess up but I am kind of lost to why. I did not have any lustful feelings during the day at all, the day was actually very nice. I went to dinner with my family for Easter. I did a lot of praying. I spent time with my Grandbabbies and Son which was awesome. There is nothing to count for this but perhaps a natural cycle that comes after 7-14 days. I really wish I would have nocturnal ejaculation but this does not happen. It was almost as I was very hungry, I went to get something to eat and I went to sleep. It was almost mechanical. None the less I still fell so it is back to day 1. I think I was also becoming overwhelmed with the 90 days. I think I will change the thread to 30 days, making it more attainable and realistic.
The Christian perspective; I realize that God loves me very much and that He knows I am doing my best to curb this habit I have had my whole life. I do not doubt the forgiveness I have been given and I know that Christ has already has forgotten the sin. I am now forgiving myself and in doing so I would like to use this for good and not guilt. A verse that comes to mind is
“For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it” St. Paul
This is so close to the truth I am trying to explain!
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yep30 days sounds more realistic and attainable than 90 i have been doing the same whit my exercises i have to measure evrymonth even when gains wont show the way i want to...
God loves us all and he knows about our future toughts dont you think..You will deal whit that permanently lust,dirty toughts,sinful situations etc theyll always show.keeping masturbation at bay..Will be a really hard challenge..
Changing habits is not that easy,but you are discilined,stubborn guy..
God loves us all and he knows about our future toughts dont you think..You will deal whit that permanently lust,dirty toughts,sinful situations etc theyll always show.keeping masturbation at bay..Will be a really hard challenge..
Changing habits is not that easy,but you are discilined,stubborn guy..
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cladre60;728748 said:
Thats what i need nowadays i have been choking the chicken almost everyday (using adult entertainment)as a visual stimulation haha
doublelongdaddy;728751 said:
I've been celibate and not by choice at times. One time I was utterly depressed and realized that every 7-10 days I needed a release. I was also much younger, 30 at the time, and I think my hormones were much higher as my sex drive was still really strong leading up to that.
It really isn't a life for everyone. If you are meant to be with someone she will come along in a way that you can't ignore it. As in God won't put her there, he'll trip you with a hand on the back of your neck to slam your face into her to get the point across (figuratively speaking, of course). Don't ignore it if it happens. We wouldn't be such a socially driven species if God intended for us to be alone.
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cladre60;728754 said:
yep Shell show up
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cladre60;728783 said:
MMM she saw me already but i didnt see her maybe next time haha
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Big Schwanz Acht
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doublelongdaddy;729480 said:
I lost count...it was 2 days after the beginning of this challenge, I think.
I was going to come and say I slipped but it was all a dream! Oddly, in the dream I was also smoking. Let me explain. I dreamed I was watching adult entertainment and about to masturbate, I knew that if I went through with it I would feel terrible the next day. So as I was sitting there debating this I piked up a cigarette and lit it! I immediately said to myself in the dream, "I quit smoking!" and I put it out. I woke up thinking all this was true. What a gift to know it was a dream. oddly enough I still had some of the the feelings as if it happened and this eventually brought me to a frustrated state. It took a good ten minutes to see that the feelings inside had nothing to do with the things I was getting frustrated with, it was the lurking feelings of falling...even though it did not happen. Now this begs a positive application in the sense of visualization. If I had a dream and believed it to be so, it become so and I felt the corresponding feelings (negative, regretful, etc.) the same applies to the positive, if we can picture what we want to the point of believing it I thing it will come so much faster!
Big Schwanz Acht
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Big Schwanz Acht;729583 said:
I 'blew' it on 3/30, so it's 27 days and counting...
Big Schwanz Acht
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It's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison...I have steady 'outlets' lol. I doubt I go more than 4/5 days between encounters, so having consistent 'releases' definitely make this challenge more attainable
Big Schwanz Acht;729679 said:
Still, great work.
I am at 12 and on guard, this is about the time I have usually slipped. Having that dry dream last night was a kind of warning to keep my guard up. The second I think I have this mastered I give the enemy much ground and will end up slipping. It is most important, as time progresses, to get that guard up every second of the day because "the adversary, the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour"
Big Schwanz Acht
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doublelongdaddy;729688 said:
maybe 'slip' inside a pretty girl? I'm sure that'll ease the pressure
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Big Schwanz Acht;729698 said:
All that penis and it's not destroying cervixes and coating them in pudding.
DLD I really hope the right woman comes along. One that'll make you forget about masturbation and the only thought of adult entertainment is "why don't we make our own for ourselves?"
Big Schwanz Acht
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cladre60;729706 said:All that penis and it's not destroying cervixes and coating them in pudding. QUOTE]
IKR?? All that 'talent' sittin' on the sidelines
Sam Kinison had a bit many years ago about John Holmes passing and he said "I guess we all just moved-up in line"...If Mike gets back into circulation, I guess we'd all move down one place, lol
Big Schwanz Acht;729698 said:
Not going to happen
But it did sound nice I had another dry dream, this is 2 now and I am on day 13, this is exactly when I messed up last time. I need to really wear tat armor today! tomorrow is 2 weeks, I feel very accomplished in this.
Big Schwanz Acht;729729 said:cladre60;729706 said:All that penis and it's not destroying cervixes and coating them in pudding. QUOTE]
IKR?? All that 'talent' sittin' on the sidelines
Sam Kinison had a bit many years ago about John Holmes passing and he said "I guess we all just moved-up in line"...If Mike gets back into circulation, I guess we'd all move down one place, lol
Sm was a blast!
Big Schwanz Acht;729729 said:cladre60;729706 said:
IKR?? All that 'talent' sittin' on the sidelines
Sam Kinison had a bit many years ago about John Holmes passing and he said "I guess we all just moved-up in line"...If Mike gets back into circulation, I guess we'd all move down one place, lol
He was something else. I remember when he died there was mixed sentiment because you either loved or hated him.
He had a bit about breast implants and how great they are and then a rampage about breast reduction. He said reduction was the same as a guy going to the doctor and saying "can you just chop the head off? I really wanna piss my wife off. Thanks!"
Big Schwanz Acht
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prologik;729816 said:
I'd say this would be an admirable goal under a couple of caveats:
Masturbation is inhibiting you from living a full and abundant life and you have an wife/SO/whatever as a healthy outlet.
Mother Nature has designed you to have a regular sexual release and things become problematic when you start to argue w/Her
Just my $0.02
Day 16. I had many dry dreams last night, I am hoping this comes to a head and I have a wet dream. I am not really feeling any pressure and need, it is only in my dreams I seem to be having issues and it is always the same two things sex and cigarettes! I have been off tobacco for about 8 weeks, at 90 days I should be 100% over it. Masturbation and adult entertainment, I have another 74 days (man does that look big!). Keep me in your prayers and help me make this goal!
Tobacco is a tough one. One time I quit I was on the patch for 2 months and was a total of 9 months tobacco free when I slipped. I tried to control it but within 2-3 months I was back to a pack a day.
I've been vaping for over 3 years and quit smoking over 2.5 years ago. It took over a year before I started to dislike the smell of cigarettes. Now it's getting to where I hate it. Still inhaling nicotine but at least I'm not smoking. Getting a handful of chemicals vs over 6k is a lot better.
I've been vaping for over 3 years and quit smoking over 2.5 years ago. It took over a year before I started to dislike the smell of cigarettes. Now it's getting to where I hate it. Still inhaling nicotine but at least I'm not smoking. Getting a handful of chemicals vs over 6k is a lot better.