http://www.wellnessmd.com/penis.html

I'm confused. I've been told if you boost your testosterone with supplements, your penis shrinks or balls shrink but in the link above, the subjects used cream that increased their tesstosterone levels and their penis size increased.

Doesn't steriods increase testosterone? If it does what's in steriods that shrinks the penis? Isn't the penis suppose to increase because testosterone is high?
 
The article is a little suspect. It states that men with high testosterone levels will have a greater than 7" penis. High testosterone does not guarantee a large penis.

It is also suspect in suggesting that rubbing a creme into your skin can cause the penis to grow. Testosterone effects receptors in the penis which are available only during puberty. The article dances around this fact and even suggests the receptors are still active. If that were true we'd all be growing, even if slightly, all our lives.

Steroids like testosterone shrink the testicles not the penis through atrophy. The testicles create testosterone based upon blood levels: if the blood has enough (whatever that is determined by your genetics) they don't produce more.

I think that article is a cleverly written advertisement.
 
MoreGains123;349777 said:
The article is a little suspect. It states that men with high testosterone levels will have a greater than 7" penis. High testosterone does not guarantee a large penis.

It is also suspect in suggesting that rubbing a creme into your skin can cause the penis to grow. Testosterone effects receptors in the penis which are available only during puberty. The article dances around this fact and even suggests the receptors are still active. If that were true we'd all be growing, even if slightly, all our lives.

Steroids like testosterone shrink the testicles not the penis through atrophy. The testicles create testosterone based upon blood levels: if the blood has enough (whatever that is determined by your genetics) they don't produce more.

I think that article is a cleverly written advertisement.

So if I use a testosterone creme chances are my testicles will shrink?
Would HGH shrink my testicles too?
Difference between HGH and Steroids?
 
just because you have a high test level doesnt mean you will have a massive penis, its all about combinations HGH, dopamine, serotonin, enzymes,. high testosterone doesnt specifically grow the penis its DHT, you need a lot of 5 alpha reductase enzyme and thats down to genes from this lots of DHT can be made so the penis can grow BUT from this your testosterone level will be low because lots of it have been converted to DHT, thats were dopamine comes in , because dopamine is first in the chain to makde testosterone if you have a high dopamine level more probable test will be made, BUT just because you high dopamine levels doesnt mean you will have high test, this were serotonin comes in this prevents dopamine being converted to adrenaline which is really bad, so when you dont have enough dopamine not enough can be converted to test in the chain, aswell you need HGH and we all know that HGH grows everything. When you take steds or creams they prevent you own body from making their own shit so body feels like theres no need to do work thats why your balls shrink and penis eventually when you stop taking the creams and stuf
 
its true we all have receptors and some people have more receptors than others, from this more probable growth can occur but again is down to genes. the reason why our penis grown so much was because when we younger our penises didnt endure that much test/DHt in the penis untill puberty untill, test/DHt went thru the roof from this when all this reaches the penis when we have an erection the penis hasnt adapted to this much test/DHT before so more receptors are amde in return , but when more receptors are made they send signals to the cells of the penis to multiply, from this penis growth occurs to adapt to this amount of DHT so when next time you have an erection you penis is bigger healthier to take this amount of DHT so your prostate wont have to suffer.
 
testosterone will SHRINK a man's penis but grow a women's clit, however, dihydrotesterone as in DHT is produced by the human body when growing the male penis. You can do this by edging, clamping whilst edging etc.

Artificial DHT like Andractim cream im afraid could give you prostrate cancer in the long run.
 
crazy-horse;349938 said:
testosterone will SHRINK a man's penis but grow a women's clit, however, dihydrotesterone as in DHT is produced by the human body when growing the male penis. You can do this by edging, clamping whilst edging etc.

Artificial DHT like Andractim cream im afraid could give you prostrate cancer in the long run.

This statement isn't true. I work in endocrinology. Testosterone will not shrink your penis AT ALL. You will experience better quality erections with testosterone treatments. The only thing that will "shrink" are your testicles. Your testicles will atrophy due to exogenous hormone as the testicles are no longer needed to produce the steroid they once were producing. Sometimes, with low enough treatment cycles, testicles can remain the same size, but it's all relative to what's considered normal by your own biology.
 
betterpenis123;349787 said:
just because you have a high test level doesnt mean you will have a massive penis, its all about combinations HGH, dopamine, serotonin, enzymes,. high testosterone doesnt specifically grow the penis its DHT, you need a lot of 5 alpha reductase enzyme and thats down to genes from this lots of DHT can be made so the penis can grow BUT from this your testosterone level will be low because lots of it have been converted to DHT, thats were dopamine comes in , because dopamine is first in the chain to makde testosterone if you have a high dopamine level more probable test will be made, BUT just because you high dopamine levels doesnt mean you will have high test, this were serotonin comes in this prevents dopamine being converted to adrenaline which is really bad, so when you dont have enough dopamine not enough can be converted to test in the chain, aswell you need HGH and we all know that HGH grows everything. When you take steds or creams they prevent you own body from making their own shit so body feels like theres no need to do work thats why your balls shrink and penis eventually when you stop taking the creams and stuf

i might have fucked up my dopamine level with meth usage. could that mean that Penis Enlargement is senseless for me?
 
Testasterone shrinks you balls because your bodyh senses there is enough test in your body. Therefore your balls do not need to work to make more test and then atrophy. This only happens if you are retarded enough to take test by itself without a PCT (post cycle therapy). Test only effects penis size durring puberty. If higher test or ghg made ur dick bigger than every pro athlete/pro body builder would have elephant penises.
 
I dont think testosterone really has any noticeable effect on your penis. You guys are reading too much into this and should just forget about it.
 
mlb092;350022 said:
Testasterone shrinks you balls because your bodyh senses there is enough test in your body. Therefore your balls do not need to work to make more test and then atrophy. This only happens if you are retarded enough to take test by itself without a PCT (post cycle therapy). Test only effects penis size durring puberty. If higher test or ghg made ur dick bigger than every pro athlete/pro body builder would have elephant penises.

.................... it's not testosterone shrinking your balls. But you have the right idea. It's a mechanism of negative feedback. I think you meant HGH, as well.

Test can be taken by itself. The point of "Post Cycle Therapy" is to be taken post cycle... I'm sure you meant this but you made it sound as if you were tusing PCT drugs on cycle.

Look, like I said, I work in endocrinology. If anyone has a question pertaining to steroids and receptors, just ask me. I don't want to sit here and correct everyone all day.
 
mlb092;350022 said:
Testasterone shrinks you balls because your bodyh senses there is enough test in your body. Therefore your balls do not need to work to make more test and then atrophy. This only happens if you are retarded enough to take test by itself without a PCT (post cycle therapy). Test only effects penis size durring puberty. If higher test or ghg made ur dick bigger than every pro athlete/pro body builder would have elephant penises.

it happens in long cycles, but they come back unless you are some year on that stuff.
 
newbie09;350071 said:
it happens in long cycles, but they come back unless you are some year on that stuff.

Not necessarily. Everyone can react differently and may have a good amount of atrophy within a couple of weeks. Plus, normal cycle lengths for muscle acquisition can last up to 24 weeks. Most "new" users stick around 12-15 weeks of test base. For most users who cycle testosterone for muscle gain, experience testicular atrophy within 6 weeks unless you are taking HCG for the duration of the cycle.
 
It is my understanding that DHT really only effects penis growth in the period from 13 to 24. I also understand that macca root increases testosterone by getting the pituitary to stimulate the testicles rather than other supplements that shut down the testicles.
 
88man;350083 said:
Not necessarily. Everyone can react differently and may have a good amount of atrophy within a couple of weeks. Plus, normal cycle lengths for muscle acquisition can last up to 24 weeks. Most "new" users stick around 12-15 weeks of test base. For most users who cycle testosterone for muscle gain, experience testicular atrophy within 6 weeks unless you are taking HCG for the duration of the cycle.

hcg is just fucking your axis totally. 20 weeks they usually recommend, but 24 weeks shoudl do better.

pct at least 6 weeks, better 8 or 10.
 
newbie09;350103 said:
hcg is just fucking your axis totally. 20 weeks they usually recommend, but 24 weeks shoudl do better.

pct at least 6 weeks, better 8 or 10.

How is HCG "fucking your axis totally"?? Why would this be the case if HCG is causing your testes to function normally despite being on AAS? You yourself are causing a positive feedback. HCG shouldn't be used for the duration of your cycle, mainly the last 4-6 weeks of being "on cycle" and into PCT. Your body becomes desensitized to the amounts of HCG over a period of time especially depending on the amount and frequency of administration, which is why it's better to use it sparingly over a period of weeks to maintain testicular function along with accelerated HPTA restoration.
 
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