Hello. I've been away from P.E. for a long time and i'm going to be starting up again. In the past, I used no "tools", but this time i'm going to purchase a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size genetics[/words]. I do recall that gains can be accelerated by maintaining a slightly stretched state after "workouts", so i'm assuming that using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] after length work would be ideal? I am not interested in girth work at all. Strictly length. I cannot wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] at work, so i'll be limited to length work after I get home from work followed by wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] until I go to sleep. I'm not sure if wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] while sleeping is recommended, but it spooks me out so i'll prob not do that.

I know this is a very general plan, but any suggestions or comments are much appreciated.

Thank you.

-Grinder
 
grinder1;749048 said:
Hello. I've been away from P.E. for a long time and i'm going to be starting up again. In the past, I used no "tools", but this time i'm going to purchase a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size genetics[/words]. I do recall that gains can be accelerated by maintaining a slightly stretched state after "workouts", so i'm assuming that using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] after length work would be ideal? I am not interested in girth work at all. Strictly length. I cannot wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] at work, so i'll be limited to length work after I get home from work followed by wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] until I go to sleep. I'm not sure if wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] while sleeping is recommended, but it spooks me out so i'll prob not do that.

I know this is a very general plan, but any suggestions or comments are much appreciated.

Thank you.

-Grinder

Hey brother glad to see your getting back into PE. Personally for length I would go with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] of course and the Phalloson. The reason the Phalloson over the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is your able to wear the Phalloson at work and/or at night. Yeah it's a bit more than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] but your getting the benefit of total concealment and your able to work. If your not able to do that I would get the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], some [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap to keep elongation and some sort of male hanger or other hanger and do a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and hanging routine then [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap throughout the day, during this time save your money you would have spent on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and save for the Phalloson.
 
Welcome back to PE Grinder. I would agree with Mike on going with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] as opposed to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. I bought the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] first and later purchased the PF and the PF wins hands down between the two. The advantages of the PF over the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] are many but from my experience the important things are, you can wear the PF until you have to take a bathroom break, I had to take the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] off about every hour to restore circulation and adjust. The PF is absolutely easy to conceal under your clothes. You can also wear the PF at night while you sleep. These are just a few advantages I can think of right off but if I were to do it over, I would have ordered the PF from the start
 
Lookn4girth;749051 said:
Welcome back to PE Grinder. I would agree with Mike on going with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] as opposed to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. I bought the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] first and later purchased the PF and the PF wins hands down between the two. The advantages of the PF over the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] are many but from my experience the important things are, you can wear the PF until you have to take a bathroom break, I had to take the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] off about every hour to restore circulation and adjust. The PF is absolutely easy to conceal under your clothes. You can also wear the PF at night while you sleep. These are just a few advantages I can think of right off but if I were to do it over, I would have ordered the PF from the start

The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is a much smarter choice as it is most useable, most comfortable and most concealable. With a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] you can literally stretch 24 hours a day safely unlike all other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] are 2 of the best choices for length!
 
doublelongdaddy;749095 said:
The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is a much smarter choice as it is most useable, most comfortable and most concealable. With a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] you can literally stretch 24 hours a day safely unlike all other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] are 2 of the best choices for length!

Yep, I have them both and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], one dynamic trio
 
Big Schwanz Acht;749128 said:
The 'Holy Trinity' of PE

Indeed, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words]....the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] miracle workers.
 
Thanks so much guys! I really appreciate the guidance/opinions. Ben away quite a a while so gonna have to brush up on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. Lol.
 
Not to hate on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] but there are not too many positive testimonials that I have read as compared with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]... that are many. I'm not sure how the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] works exactly but the constant extension that [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] give allow ligaments to "creep" and that's where the gains come from.
 
RR04;749339 said:
Not to hate on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] but there are not too many positive testimonials that I have read as compared with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]... that are many. I'm not sure how the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] works exactly but the constant extension that [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] give allow ligaments to "creep" and that's where the gains come from.

I'll be a PF owner in the very near future...the way it attaches is what sold me. Some have morphed their PF and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] together to do exactly what you're speaking of, with great results
 
I have tried both the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and PF and honestly like them both. I like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for the fact I can feel a major tug post length routine. The PF I need to rig the belt to be a bit as to make it adjustable for the tension.

How long has the PF been out?
 
Mike3209;749347 said:
I have tried both the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and PF and honestly like them both. I like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for the fact I can feel a major tug post length routine. The PF I need to rig the belt to be a bit as to make it adjustable for the tension.

How long has the PF been out?

Both have a great place in their field and when combined in the PhalloGenetics they are unbelievable in intensity. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] has been out for 4 years in its current state. Prior to that the older version was not acceptable. They made the improvements we desired and today they are much more successful. It is always smart to listen to the Brotherhood.
 
Hello. I've been away from P.E. for a long time and i'm going to be starting up again. In the past, I used no "tools", but this time i'm going to purchase a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size genetics[/words]. I do recall that gains can be accelerated by maintaining a slightly stretched state after "workouts", so i'm assuming that using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] after length work would be ideal? I am not interested in girth work at all. Strictly length. I cannot wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] at work, so i'll be limited to length work after I get home from work followed by wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] until I go to sleep. I'm not sure if wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] while sleeping is recommended, but it spooks me out so i'll prob not do that.

I know this is a very general plan, but any suggestions or comments are much appreciated.

Thank you.

-Grinder

No need to buy the SG. Just get yourself a length master and ace bandage. Use 20 inches length of the are bandage to wrap your penis after your session. This will help you heal in an elongated state
 
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