Hi bib,ive been hanging now for about 3 months,i gained about a quarter of an inch in 6 weeks hanging straight down but my lot was nearly down to 6 by then so ive been hanging straight out for the last 6 weeks

I decided to measure to see if i had made any progress but i havn't gained anything.

Im up to using 33lb for 15 minute sets for about 10 hours a week,now i no i could use more weight as the 33lbs feels comfortable,the problem is since upping the poundage ive started to get a lot of discolouration because i have to tighten the hanger quite tight to stop slippage,i use talc and theraband as a wrap.

Do you think i should change angle or up the poundage.

If im allowed i will post a picture to show the discolouration.
 
prince Albert said:
Hi bib,ive been hanging now for about 3 months,i gained about a quarter of an inch in 6 weeks hanging straight down but my lot was nearly down to 6 by then so ive been hanging straight out for the last 6 weeks

I decided to measure to see if i had made any progress but i havn't gained anything.

Im up to using 33lb for 15 minute sets for about 10 hours a week,now i no i could use more weight as the 33lbs feels comfortable,the problem is since upping the poundage ive started to get a lot of discolouration because i have to tighten the hanger quite tight to stop slippage,i use talc and theraband as a wrap.

Do you think i should change angle or up the poundage.

If im allowed i will post a picture to show the discolouration.

Show us the pictures
 
pA,

>Hi bib,ive been hanging now for about 3 months,i gained about a quarter of an inch in 6 weeks hanging straight down but my lot was nearly down to 6 by then so ive been hanging straight out for the last 6 weeks<

That sounds about right.

>I decided to measure to see if i had made any progress but i havn't gained anything.

Im up to using 33lb for 15 minute sets for about 10 hours a week,now i no i could use more weight as the 33lbs feels comfortable,the problem is since upping the poundage ive started to get a lot of discolouration because i have to tighten the hanger quite tight to stop slippage,i use talc and theraband as a wrap.<

What kind of hanger do you use?

This is one thing I have not written about in a while, and I do not believe I have written about it here at all. The fact is that sometimes, you will not gain working the entire tunica, at the upper angles. Or rather you will not measure a gain, but your LOT will still rise! This is because most guys measure bone pressed right on the pubic bone. You could pull out, or stretch, a considerable amount of inner tunica, and the ligs could prevent you from measuring a gain. But if you also measured from the side, off of any of the lig bundles, in a couple of different places, you might see some good gains if you kept up with the measures every month, while hanging at the upper angles.

Now, if you measure a rise in your LOT, you have succeeded in your goal while upper angle hanging; getting new gain potential in your ligs. When you go back to hanging at the lower angles, you should be able to stretch the ligs out further, lower your package, and pick up some measured gains from the usual spot, measured right on the pubic bone.

This is what is described as the see-saw effect, working alternately, solely the ligs for a month or so, then solely the tunica for a month or so. Down and out, and then up and out.

>Do you think i should change angle or up the poundage.<

I would say go with OTS for the next month or so. Use SO as your secondary angle. Be sure to keep up with your LOT.

>If im allowed i will post a picture to show the discolouration.<

I think you will need to post the pics in the picture section, and then link to them.

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pA,

OK, I think I can help you.

First, you are wrapping and attaching behind the discolored area, correct? You have gained some skin also, correct? You are not pulling the skin back very much when you wrap and attach the hanger, correct?

Just going by what you have said, and looking at the pic, I would say your skin has been taking a lot of the stress so far. You have not really hit the inner structures very much.

You can post pics of your wrapping style, and hanger attachment, and I can help you some more. I do not consider myself an expert on uncut hanging, but there are other guys that are. I have only worked personally with one penis, my own, and I am cut.

Shooting from the hip here, this will take some experimentation: I think you need to grasp the tip of your penis, and pull out a good bit when wrapping. Do not pull so far that the head is totally exposed. Then, while still stretched out, begin wrapping one inch behind the corona of the head. Now, when you release the head, the wrap will probably want to go over the head somewhat. Don't sweat it.

When you attach the hanger, go ahead and grasp the tip again, and stretch out your unit. The hand that is doing the stretching can also hold the bottom of the hanger with the pinky and ring finger supporting the hanger on the skids. Get the hanger closed and pull back toward the base some. If the head tries to pull back into the front of the hanger, you will have to get the top bolt fastened, and the hanger tightened a little. Then pull the head back out and stretch a little while you tighten the hanger down. You want to tighten enough so that the hanger grasps the internal structures of the shaft.

Once again, it will take some work and experimentation, but you will get it.

The goal here is to give plenty of skin BEHIND the hanger, so that the internal structures are taking all the stress, and the skin none. For the time being, until the shaft grows/stretches, you have plenty of skin.

As far as discoloration goes, you do not have very much for hanging 33 lbs. Get some arnica gel and apply a couple of times a day. It should fade. Also, you can try wrapping to remove discoloration.

>When hanging SO i get a really nice pulling sensation around the base of my penis,ive experimented with OTS a couple of time but carn't seem to feel anything,any tips on set up.<

Hmmm. Let's get the wrap and hanger placement right first, then we can see what OTS does for you.

Bigger
 
pA,

Yes, there are some problems there.

First, you are using an OK grip around the skin before you wrap, too far toward the base. What I was referring to above was to grasp the tip of the head, or the head itself, and stretch out your unit before and while wrapping. Then, you can see the corona through the skin which is left over the head, right? Start your wrap one inch behind the corona. This will limit the skin taking all the stress.

I can see in the third pic, the wrap goes too close too the base, as far as skin goes. When you are finished wrapping, you want more skin behind the wrap than you show in that pic.

In the forth pic, you are doing it correctly, but you should be pulling from the head itself, and not the skin over the head, while you tighten.

Now, I think I see a bad problem, but I could be wrong: In that fourth pic, it appears that the hanger is toed in, but in the fifth and sixth pics, the hanger appears straight on. Are you adjusting the inner hex nuts, and then snugging down the two bottom wing nuts before you attach the hanger? I hope so, but it appears you are using all three wing nuts as tighteners. You cannot do that. The two halves of the hanger must be static, solid in relation to each other before you begin.

You must run the adjustment hex nuts out to the approximate setting, so that when the hanger is tightened with the top wing nut, the top teeth mesh somewhat. The outer bottom wing nuts are simply to allow easy access to the inner hex nuts. This will take a little trial and error, but you should soon get the hang of it.

Next, in both the fifth and sixth pics, the top gap is too large. You need to adjust the inner hex nuts, to where the bottom gap is a little wider, and the top gap is less. You want the top teeth to mesh somewhat. Not completely, but close. But be sure you leave enough leeway to tighten the hanger fully and grasp the internal structures.

In the last pic, it appears the hanger is toed-out, as opposed to the top pic, toed in, and the middle pics, straight on. So I think you do not have the inner hex nuts working as I described above. The hanger is not solid, and it makes it easy for your shaft to 'flow' through the hanger, and as your caption indicates, when weight is applied, the hanger slips toward the head.

Because the wrap is started so far toward the base, you can really see the skin stretch in the sixth pic. I think I can also see the lig fan. This means you are attaching so far back, you may be grasping the fascial lig attachment on the shaft also. But then, you are going for tunica stretch, so that would not do you much good.

All in all, I would say the techniques are fairly good for stretching skin, but will not do much for the inner structures. But as I always say, skin is the first limiting factor. Right now, you have plenty, but at some point, you may need to remember how to stretch skin again.

I am afraid I may have butchered my explanations, so be sure to ask more questions if needed.

Good pics,

Bigger
 
Bib thanks for the feedback,your right i have been adjusting all 3 wing nuts,the reason was i kept nipping either the underneath of my shaft of getting the top meshed up in the teeth of the hanger,i read a post made a while back,i don't no who by that suggested tightening all three while while moving the hanger up and down to stop nipping.I do tighten the bottom two wing nuts until they lock against the hex nuts.

I have been messing about with the settings lately to see if i could get a better fit,obviously cocked it up.

When you say pull on the tip of the head do you mean i should push my foreskin back a bit and pull on the tip of the head,or just pull on the excess skin at the tip.

I'm going to print your last reply out and spend the next couple of days trying to get the setup right,i will post some more pics when i think i have it right and if you don't mind you can give me some more feedback.
 
pA,

>Bib thanks for the feedback,your right i have been adjusting all 3 wing nuts,the reason was i kept nipping either the underneath of my shaft of getting the top meshed up in the teeth of the hanger,i read a post made a while back,i don't no who by that suggested tightening all three while while moving the hanger up and down to stop nipping.I do tighten the bottom two wing nuts until they lock against the hex nuts.<

Do you mean pinching when you say nipping? The wing nuts will not help or hurt you with that. Pinching is usually a function of wrap tightness. You probably have your wrap a little bit too loose. You might show some more pics of your wrapping style.

>I have been messing about with the settings lately to see if i could get a better fit,obviously cocked it up.<

Yes. Just get your settings fairly close, and then make small adjustments one set at a time, till you get something you really like.

>When you say pull on the tip of the head do you mean i should push my foreskin back a bit and pull on the tip of the head,or just pull on the excess skin at the tip.<

Push or pull your foreskin back a little bit, not much, and grasp the tip of the head to pull out the shaft and wrap. NOT the excess skin at the tip.

>I'm going to print your last reply out and spend the next couple of days trying to get the setup right,i will post some more pics when i think i have it right and if you don't mind you can give me some more feedback.<

Remember, I am leaving on the 17th. I will be back after the first of the year.

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pA,

All in all, that does not look bad. Perhaps a wee bit more out on the bottom hex nuts, so that the top teeth mesh just a wee bit more. Or, that setting is fine if you need to tighten the hanger a wee bit more.

It appears that you will get good internal structure stress from that hanger attachment postition.

That is about all I can tell from the pics. How is it working for you? That would be the important question.

Bigger
 
Bib i tighten the hanger a touch more once the weight is applied and there is very little skin flare at the base so i think ive finaly got things about right.Ive still been hanging straight out,do you think considering i had the set up wrong before that i should continue SO or go OTS like you initially suggested.
 
pA,

>Bib i tighten the hanger a touch more once the weight is applied and there is very little skin flare at the base so i think ive finaly got things about right.Ive still been hanging straight out,do you think considering i had the set up wrong before that i should continue SO or go OTS like you initially suggested.<

I would recommend trying OTS. This is a good time to bring something up, which I have not discussed much at all, and perhaps is just common sense: For many guys, all hanging angles require different hanging techniques.

I have not hung for gains in a long time. Many of the things I learned have slipped my mind. But you and some other guys have reminded me of the differences between hanging at say, BTC and OTS. They require different setups, hanger adjustments, etc.

Many times when guys find something that works, is comfortable, and effective, they are loath to change it. This is not right. If OTS feels different, is uncomfortable, etc, there is probably good reasons for it. Just work with it, try different things, and you will quickly come up with a technique that works for you.

With an LOT of 6, you surely need to be investigating OTS. I did not have to hang at that angle for very much of my Penis Enlargement career, but it was really effective when I did.

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