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bandit2010
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hey guys I have a question on pumping with water, which is better low pressure or high, I would assume low to medium.
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Hey,
3 inches of Mercury is what most people recommend. So doing low pressure on a long period of time. I cycle between 3 and 6 in.Hg vac with some "Blasters" up to 20 in.Hg which I can hold just for a few seconds because of the pain. When I was unexperienced, I tried to cycle between 10 and 20 in.Hg but it doesn't produce enough workout duration.
If you don't have a gauge on your pump you should know that 3 in.Hg is low pressure. For me it is that kind of pressure where you have the feeling that the pump will fall off even though it is not happening. If you like the pleasurable side of pumping you will also find out that certain pressure regimes allow better sensation than others. There is a sweet spot somewhere.
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3 inches of Mercury is what most people recommend. So doing low pressure on a long period of time. I cycle between 3 and 6 in.Hg vac with some "Blasters" up to 20 in.Hg which I can hold just for a few seconds because of the pain. When I was unexperienced, I tried to cycle between 10 and 20 in.Hg but it doesn't produce enough workout duration.
If you don't have a gauge on your pump you should know that 3 in.Hg is low pressure. For me it is that kind of pressure where you have the feeling that the pump will fall off even though it is not happening. If you like the pleasurable side of pumping you will also find out that certain pressure regimes allow better sensation than others. There is a sweet spot somewhere.
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stillwantmore
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Regardless of the potion or magic gas in your pump tube, it's always best to err on the side of caution with pumping. Start low, 2-6 HG. There are pumping guides in the pumpers forum here and elsewhere online. Google Newart pumping forums.
Big Schwanz Acht
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bandit2010;742987 said:
are you using a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] or does the pump you have incorporate a pressure gauge? In my experience with modded [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X40[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Goliath[/words] models, I pump to whatever my body can withstand...along with some hardcore stretches and between-the-thighs downward lig stretches. Utilizing the 5X5X3 will keep FR down to a minimum, but the key for me is INTENSITY with each and every exercise.
Big Schwanz Acht;743012 said:
Whats your fluid retention like?
Big Schwanz Acht
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rocky1243;743067 said:
toward the end of each 10 minute segment, I'll get the 'donut affect' just under the glans (it may be a combination of FR and the fact that my EQ is waaaaay down by then. I can jelq 90% of it away and resume (or finish). It's much less than when I first started...back then I looked like that creature coming out of that dude's stomach in the first Alien movie
Big Schwanz Acht;743091 said:
lol, been there, done that. I thought I had messed up when I first started and this happened
Big Schwanz Acht
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Lookn4girth;743092 said:
kinda scary but seeing all that temporary growth (and having [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for consult) just made my conviction that much stronger
Big Schwanz Acht;743094 said:
I actually had it happen before I found [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] so I was a little concerned. After joining here and finding all the info on it, my mind was eased considerably.
Big Schwanz Acht;743091 said:
How did it affect your workouts did you lower the intensity?
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
I actually upped the intensity (and still do) but shortened the sets from 20 mins. to 10mins. and jelq the FR away in between
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bandit2010
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yeah I am using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x30[/words] last night I done 2 10 min sets in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bath mate[/words] had a little water retention around the glands roughly 1/2 inch.
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
once you've 'got it down', look into modding with the VacuVin...it'll turbo-charge you [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] X's 100!! no joke
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bandit2010
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I have already done the mod and been using it and know the kinda results, what ive noticed is, as I use more Presure, my EQ goes down.
rocky1243;743113 said:
Hey Rocky, I backed my intensity down when it happened to me because I thought there was something wrong. I was doing 15 minute sessions but backed it down to the 5x5x3 I found here on the site. I figured I could add a minute on occasion without harm. I also started doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] in between sets and this helped a lot
bandit2010;743121 said:
Bandit, I am also using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x30[/words], what VV did you use to mod yours? I have read a ton of info on the VV and have considered trying it on mine. I have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]xtreme[/words] model but everyone says that the mod will make the power even greater
Big Schwanz Acht
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Lookn4girth;743129 said:
If you already have The Extreme, I wouldn't bother with the mod unless you feel you're maxing-out it's capabilities
Big Schwanz Acht;743133 said:
Thanks B. I do have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]xtreme[/words] and don't think I am maxing out with the hand pump yet
Lookn4girth;743138 said:
Stick to using the extreme.
huge-girth;743158 said:
Thanks HG
bandit2010;742987 said:
my advice is do at least one crazy hard session every 5-7 days, and get in a tube at least once a day. beyond that some experimentation is required. everyone is going to respond differently especially if you are adding in other enlargement exercises...
acromegaly;743164 said:
What would be considered a crazy hard session? Not wanting to hijack bandits thread but how much expansion should one expect to accomplish with a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] session. I try to pump to the max but with no gauge how do you know. I can fill the tube girth wise by the 3rd set, is this what one would look to accomplish?
doublelongdaddy;743167 said:
Thanks for the feedback D, I am definitely going beyond my normal girth. I would say that by my 3rd set I am maxing out the capacity of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X30[/words] in girth but not length.
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bandit2010
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I on average see a 1/2 to 3/4 of a inch of expansion.
stillwantmore
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Moved to correct sub forum. Thanks for understanding. 
bandit2010;743215 said:
That is pretty good expansion bandit
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Juhox
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If you truly want to be successfull then you need to mimic natural blood cycle, i.e. slowly build up the vacuum into a comfortable level, hold it for maximum 1 minute, release the vacuum and let the fresh blood run for ten seconds - and start again. Do this pulsepumping for at least 30 min. per day and you'll be rewarded. Water based pumping is the way to go, brothers.bandit2010;742987 said:
The hard part is to find a proper tube and a proper seal ?
so you should forget too wide tubes and have a doughnut-like (TPR plastic) seal.
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Juhox;743281 said:If you truly want to be successfull then you need to mimic natural blood cycle, i.e. slowly build up the vacuum into a comfortable level, hold it for maximum 1 minute, release the vacuum and let the fresh blood run for ten seconds - and start again. Do this pulsepumping for at least 30 min. per day and you'll be rewarded. Water based pumping is the way to go, brothers.
The hard part is to find a proper tube and a proper seal ?
I have not tried this method but what kind of results do you see with it as opposed to the 5x5x3.
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Juhox
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Well, the 5x5x3 looks good on paper but don't have motivation to run that program. Pulsepumping is easy enough so you stay motivated, and consistency is one of the keys for success. I also do some stretching with the tube so that the ligaments get their fare share.Lookn4girth;743283 said:
My cock become veiny and rock hard after starting pulsepumping. I pity the fool who do only old fashioned static pumping
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Big Schwanz Acht
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I've not heard of this before, but seems logical. If one was going to pump for a total of 30 minutes, what's the procedure for ramping-up the pressure while maintaining a fresh supply of blood?
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doublelongdaddy;743312 said:
I guess I should have clarified...30 minutes total, with jelq's in between sets to manage FR
Juhox;743297 said:Well, the 5x5x3 looks good on paper but don't have motivation to run that program. Pulsepumping is easy enough so you stay motivated, and consistency is one of the keys for success. I also do some stretching with the tube so that the ligaments get their fare share.
My cock become veiny and rock hard after starting pulsepumping. I pity the fool who do only old fashioned static pumping
Could you give us some details on what a session would consist of. I got the part about pumping up to a comfortable pressure and holding for a minute but do you do any jelqing in between sets or do you go straight back into the second set. In other words, how much time lapses in between sets.
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Juhox
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I don't take off the tube at all, just do that cycle over and over again with supplemental tube stretching. This is a very easy procedure and it's easy to stay motivated, and with time the serious results will follow. Mixing different techniques may be suitable for someone, but I would argue that a typical man gets easily frustrated. I'm a math Ph.D. and my mind is filled with topics that are non-related with penis enlargement, but I can understand if someone is neurotic about PE and spends many hours per day with various methods :sLookn4girth;743316 said:
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Big Schwanz Acht
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I'll give this a go and report back!
Juhox;743364 said:
Whats your base pressure? And what pressure do you crank it up to and hold for 1 min?
Juhox;743364 said:
Thanks for the explanation J.
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Juhox
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I don't have a gauge but I belive that one can feel the sensible level of vacuum; rookies should begin with low vacuum, but of course any veteran pumper knows what he's doing. Here is my pump that I use for water pumping, but now i use a longer tube with the same diameter.rocky1243;743380 said:
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Juhox;743387 said:
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your attachment didnt work... describe the level of discomfort. Is it something you could hold for 5 mins 10 mins. Or do you hold it for 1 min and are grinding your teeth to the ladt second?
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Juhox
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Everyone will begin with low vacuum and goes further, but no pain nor bruises should occur. At the moment I use maximum vacuum that my pump can give so it's difficult to give any numerical anwers. I have already posted an image of my pump and there it is: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...rum/64483-water-in-air-pump-2.html#post727007rocky1243;743393 said:
As you all can see there is a big doughnut-like seal and therefore it's possible to release the vacuum and still hold the penis and the water inside tube before a new cycle. It's just so simple and, with a drop of hand soap as a lubricant, completely pain free. The old school air-only pumping with a sloppy seal was a real pain in the ass!
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Juhox;743396 said:Everyone will begin with low vacuum and goes further, but no pain nor bruises should occur. At the moment I use maximum vacuum that my pump can give so it's difficult to give any numerical anwers. I have already posted an image of my pump and there it is: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...rum/64483-water-in-air-pump-2.html#post727007
As you all can see there is a big doughnut-like seal and therefore it's possible to release the vacuum and still hold the penis and the water inside tube before a new cycle. It's just so simple and, with a drop of hand soap as a lubricant, completely pain free. The old school air-only pumping with a sloppy seal was a real pain in the ass!
Right now I am air pumping, if you are using a donut seal I assume that tube is pretty wide for your size. Do you pack it for girth? But yeah I can see that pump doing exactly the same job as a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], pluss you have a hand pump.
I tried pumping water today using the fluid trap, it was a disaster. Don't reccomend it, I will wait for my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and see what all the fuzz is about with water pumping.
rocky1243;743427 said:
How long until you get your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] Rocky
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Juhox
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Well, my rock hard erection (mid-shaft) width is a bit over 5 cm so basically I'm packing that tube and the base is quite tight. I'm not trying to pack like those hardcore pumpers, since I'm just cycling the blood in and out without that much fluid build-up under my skin. I'm soon having a new tube that is only a little bigger in width (~6,5 cm inner width and ~24 cm length) since too wide tube is a nightmare.rocky1243;743427 said:
My pistol pump can handle the water so I recommed to find a high quality pistol pump. I use Fröhle Gmbh -pistol pump that gives 800 millibar suction that equals ~23,5 inHg. Of course I use that maximum level only for a short time at the end of my session, but it actually shows how comfortable water pumping is, since I feel no pain at all. Before I used much weaker pumps and air-only method and my penis was usually hurt, bloated with fluid and the skin was filled with red and blue spots.
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Juhox;743447 said:
I tried this pumping technique yesterday and did find that I had less FR to deal with between sets. My focus was to mentally feel 'new blood' circulating in/out of my shaft and glans while also cycling kegels. The way I did this in my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X40[/words] modded with The VacuVin (I couldn't imagine this exercise being possible w/out it) was entering the cylinder with as high EQ as possible and then only using The VV, create enough suction for it to hold it's own weight. Held this for 30 seconds or so all the while kegeling and trying to imagine all the new blood rushing in, then increased the pressure a tad...did this until I reached my max (you'll know your max when you hit it) and held that for 3-4 minutes. Released and exited, jelq'd what little FR there was and repeated twice more.
Too early to tell, but if reduced FR is any indicator, Juhox could be on to something
Lookn4girth;743429 said:
Idk I had won last month's poster of the month so I was hoping to have it by now. Need to contact support to see whats up.
Juhox;743447 said:
Gotcha, right now I am using a 1.75" diameter cylinder which takes me about 20-30 mins to pack fully for girth cycling through 5-10 hg. After that I go into the 2" tube which I packed almost completely last night at 5 hq in less than 20 mins. I am trying out this thing called "Overpacking" invented by prelude99 from another forum. Essentially I pack the tube in 30 mins, I do it in sets of 15 mins and I try not to exceed 10 hg (you need a size of a tube that you can do this in, it does not mean picking a huge tube an pumping your dick off) and after that I sit on the tube for the same amount of time at a lower pressure of 2-3 hq. You will find you get the expansion without it being too fluffy, and your dick hangs low etc.
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rocky1243;743470 said:
just wait until you start pumping w/H2O
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Juhox
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Once you go water pumping, there is no turning back.
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