Progress Log - Aim for 8”x7”

[JonnyP8]

Okay brothers, here is my progress log from the beginning.

Measurements as of today are:
BPEL 15cm / 5.9inch
EG 12.7cm / 5inch

As mentioned in my other post, I did bath mate quite sporadically for about a year several years ago and without measuring I definitely gained good permanent gland size and very slight erect gains all around.
This is the full extent of any PE I have done - I’m hoping I still have much newbie gains to be extracted.

Routine starting now:

30 second stretch each direction x 3 sets with talcum powder:
Out, left, right.
Up, up left, up right.
Down, down left, down right.
BTC, BTC left, BTC right.

Set one I pull regular and sets 2 and 3 I am doing a 360 twist for now since this keeps an even balance of sets for each twist direction 1 set clockwise + 1 set anti-clockwise (welcome advice on this).

Immediately after this,
Using coconut oil, a hybrid of SSJ 5x5x3 OR 12min standard jelq (welcome advice on this):

3mins jelq
3mins SSJ
3mins jelq
3mins SSJ
3mins jelq
3mins SSJ

The above is done early in the day.

Later in the evening,
I will pump using bathmate:

12min x 2 OR 5x5x3 (welcome advice on this).

Throughout the day (every day) I will be doing kegels also:
100x quick kegels minimum
100x 5 second hold and slow release minimum

That’s the full active routine planned with the tools available to me so far.
I am going to throw in additional stretching (unplanned and random directions/durations) such as when I’m lying or sitting around etc. as often as possible.

Future plans are to begin the cementing of gains with rings and wraps/sleeves. This will have to wait until I get the equipment and understand the best way to do it.

Also, replace the bath mate with a mityvac and manual stretches with a lengthmaster.

The aim is:

BPEL 20.5cm / 8.1inch
EG 18cm / 7.1inch

 

[JonnyP8]

@DLD @oldandlively @huge-girth

Hey brothers, here is my progress log - I’d love to hear any thoughts or advice you have on the above info at all.

Much appreciated thanks in advance

 

[oldandlively]

According to your routines so far, you have three options to pursue: manual stretches for length, pumping for length and girth, or combo of manual stretches and pumping to achieve length and girth (but very slow).

Bathmate will only provide girth, no length. If it does provide length, it's extremely little, less than 3% of your total length. It's a tradeoff between length and girth as you use Bathmate.

For length, it's best to use manual stretches if you're on a very limited budget. You can even use a segment of a broomstick (used by our brother squirt_inducer_man and a few others with similar variations). It's a fulcrum stretching where you use the stick as a pulling point. DLD provides a pyramid type of stretch info under his DVD instruction in the Media instruction.

You can use the MityVac smaller cylinders (roughly 0.5 to 1cm larger than your erected girth to force the tissues to become elongated rather than expand as the body of the penis compresses against the cylinder wall.

After a few sets in the smaller cylinder, you can switch to a larger cylinder between 1.5cm to 2cm larger than your erect girth to get the girth going. This should only be done a few hours later. Too much pumping causes edema (fluid in the skin) to build up. Too much fluid in the skin can cause discoloration to the skin.

A very large note to take, because the cylinder has a hard edge, it can cause nerve kinking. A universal pump donut should be used to cushion the lip of the cylinder at the base of the penis, minimising and eliminating the nerve kink. Few brothers in the past suffered nerve kinking issues because they pumped too hard, with the cylinder lip/edge pressing down too hard.

 

[JonnyP8]

Thanks brother

combo of manual stretches and pumping to achieve length and girth (but very slow).

I mean essentially that’s my plan so far, the stretches, jelqing and pumping every day.

You think it’s very slow?

A very large note to take, because the cylinder has a hard edge, it can cause nerve kinking. A universal pump donut should be used to cushion the lip of the cylinder at the base of the penis

Nice that’s good to know, as well as how to choose the correct size cylinder so thank you I will remember this when the time comes to finally get my mityvac.

I must admit I haven’t noticed this cylinder in any of the videos on here at all, only the seal thing that comes with the product to “prevent sucking the scrotum into the pump” which I did notice nobody seems to use lol?
I hate the turkey neck the bath mate gives so I quite like the idea of this seal thing, do you find it reduces gains or you use it when pumping?
I hoped this was the equivalent of the bathmate cushion ring (I hope you know which part I’m talking about, it’s on the mityvac page).

 

[oldandlively]

Thanks brother

I mean essentially that’s my plan so far, the stretches, jelqing and pumping every day.

You think it’s very slow?

If you gained that much in a few months, that's freaking awesome! It's slow for a sporadic 12-year period. It's phenomenal for just a few months after starting back up. You may be a splendid grower and become a shower (showing off your cemented long and large flaccid penis). Perfect for nude beaches and camps. I've been to a few of the mixed sex open air hotsprings, beaches, and camps. Let's just say some guys were packing crazy water hoses. You might end up be one of those guys.

I must admit I haven’t noticed this cylinder in any of the videos on here at all, only the seal thing that comes with the product to “prevent sucking the scrotum into the pump” which I did notice nobody seems to use lol?

That's one of the purposes of the silicone donuts. The thicker base one, not the skinny ones, provides comforts. I have three of them, one still sealed. The moment you expose the silicone to air, there will be discoloration of the silicone material. Two of mine look like they've been stained with yellow tint food coloring. Really weird.

Thick cushion version:


Thin version used for preventing cylinder's lip from cutting you:


See the difference on how thick the base is around the middle circle? The middle circle has a raised wall to seal with the base of the penis, and prevent your scrotum from being sucked up.

I hate the turkey neck the bath mate gives so I quite like the idea of this seal thing, do you find it reduces gains or you use it when pumping?
I hoped this was the equivalent of the bathmate cushion ring (I hope you know which part I’m talking about, it’s on the mityvac page).

I use the pump donut to prevent the turkey's neck from being sucked up in the past as well. But to deal with the turkey's neck, best to do ball-and-socket stretches. It will minimize and prevent turkey neck formation as your penis grows. Most of us do it. As a side benefit, the longer scrotal sack will smack-smack-smack those sexy butt cheeks and clit to stimulate the lady based on positions.

 

[huge-girth]

@DLD @oldandlively @huge-girth

Hey brothers, here is my progress log - I’d love to hear any thoughts or advice you have on the above info at all.

Much appreciated thanks in advance

If you focus heavily on training for length gains, you will gain length faster. You can train length and girth daily but you will gain quicker if you sort your length goal out first.

 

[JonnyP8]

If you gained that much in a few months, that's freaking awesome! It's slow for a sporadic 12-year period. It's phenomenal for just a few months after starting back up. You may be a splendid grower and become a shower (showing off your cemented long and large flaccid penis). Perfect for nude beaches and camps. I've been to a few of the mixed sex open air hotsprings, beaches, and camps. Let's just say some guys were packing crazy water hoses. You might end up be one of those guys.

I have to be honest brother I’m entirely confused by what you’re saying here, for sure you’ve misunderstood my post or I’ve perhaps been unclear lol?

That's one of the purposes of the silicone donuts. The thicker base one, not the skinny ones, provides comforts. I have three of them

Ahh nice, which of these comes with the mityvac bro? It doesn’t hurt gains or efficiency?

But to deal with the turkey's neck, best to do ball-and-socket stretches. It will minimize and prevent turkey neck formation as your penis grows.

No way brother for real? The longer scrotal sack is the very issue with the bathmate use in the first place no? I should make it longer even more?

As a side benefit, the longer scrotal sack will smack-smack-smack those sexy butt cheeks and clit to stimulate the lady based on positions.

Hahaha very nice

 

[JonnyP8]

If you focus heavily on training for length gains, you will gain length faster. You can train length and girth daily but you will gain quicker if you sort your length goal out first.

Ah interesting thank you brother

So at the moment I’m entirely limited really to the manual stretches when it comes to length training though.

Maybe I will just do 2 sessions per day of that instead of the evening pump and also not do the jelqing stuff. Or just throw in some girth work now and then? Just feels weird to completely neglect it.

Maybe this is what oldlively meant when he says it’s a slow looking plan. You think the way it’s set out is not very efficient then?

I thought it was pretty comprehensive plan but of course I’m brand new and have no idea lol so I’m glad you can help me with your experience brother

 

[oldandlively]

I have to be honest brother I’m entirely confused by what you’re saying here, for sure you’ve misunderstood my post or I’ve perhaps been unclear lol?

No worries. We'll just leave it here. I think we just have statements crossed wired somewhere, but the messages were understood.

Ahh nice, which of these comes with the mityvac bro? It doesn’t hurt gains or efficiency?

I believe the blue one. The clear one needed to be ordered somewhere else. It doesn't hurt gains or creates less/more efficiency. It's just for protection purposes.

No way brother for real? The longer scrotal sack is the very issue with the bathmate use in the first place no? I should make it longer even more?

No. The shorter scrotal sac that rises up along with penile shaft is the main problem. Well, having too much slack skin also is also a problem. Problems, problems, everywhere we go. Just make sure you have enough scrotal sac slack to prevent the sac from being pulled along with the penile growth.

If you have too much lengthed sac, you can use a towel or a wrap to pull the sac back between your legs. Our brother, @huge-girth, can testify to his testicle trick.