Please advice - routine and progress

[oldandlively]

Do you mean the new jelqing lotion?

No, the infrared warmer.

 

[DLD]

No, the infrared warmer.

Oh, yes I am on that. Looking for a cheaper alternative through our partners in China. I am trying to make a better device at a lower price. so far I have not seen one at a price lower than $80. I want to make a better device at around $60.

 

[trustr1]

Hi
Last night after clamping session. I did some ssj. And on the second set while i was doing the ssj and was beyond 100% erection and expension already i kegel and made a grip at my base again at that noment of kegel my D was enlarged.. and then when i regripped i felt something really weird along my shaft that i can't explain. But it was scary. Like my penis was over over erected and filled with blood like someone inserted wood inside my penis. and then something went through all my shaft made my penis to move involuntary (like it moves up and down when i kegel) and then it was released... ahhhhh. I looked and didn't see anything visible. And i could get erection again. But it was really weird and unpleasent expirience. Felt like i lost control over what was going on with my penis at those seconds.

 

[oldandlively]

It sounds like an involuntary spasm. The closest to that feeling is when you flex your legs or biceps to a point where you get 100% and greater muscle engagements, and a strange spasm occurs because the nerves sends the signal to the brain to relax momentarily. Something like that kind of feeling?

 

[trustr1]

Honestly i don't know. Not sure i'm familiar with what you described.
To me intuitively it felt more related to over engorging and trapping blood, something close to an injury that i had lucky not reaching to.

 

[oldandlively]

Honestly i don't know. Not sure i'm familiar with what you described.
To me intuitively it felt more related to over engorging and trapping blood, something close to an injury that i had lucky not reaching to.

If you believe it's a pre-injury condition, best to provide a 2 days break and ease back in. Spasmatic indicator can be of many things. It can be overloading, overstressing, or overstimulation. Just take everything as a sign of dangers and back up just a bit.

 

[DLD]

If you believe it's a pre-injury condition, best to provide a 2 days break and ease back in. Spasmatic indicator can be of many things. It can be overloading, overstressing, or overstimulation. Just take everything as a sign of dangers and back up just a bit.

Exactly if you feel pain or sharp pain it is important to take a break. Know the difference of pain and fatigue. fatigue is what you want so as @oldandlively said back off a bit on intensity. And if you are injured you must take a break. What you want is a healthy, length and girth driven by a proper routine like SRT.

 

[trustr1]

Making some progress with girth work.
Got few more mm with clamped expansion(13.2), post expension (12.6-7), and ringed post expension. (13.2)
I might got few more mm also in baseline (11.7) but im not sure yet.
Today's routine:
14min pump up to 10inHG
6x5min python with some squizes
3x5min SSJ.

Regarding length work:
Found working method for taping that avoids blisters for me.
Doing 1 hour extender a day up to 11lbs.
First 20min+ down bundeled at lower (6-7lbs). First 30min with NIR.
Bpfsl seems to be 20.6 now. But honestly don't know if it isn't just change with the way i measure.
No change with BPEL.
ADS all day

 

[oldandlively]

If you measure the same way all the time, the growth is based on that. Stick with the same measurement method, even if it's a bit skewed or strange from the start.

 

[DLD]

Also do not measure erect length every six months. What you can measure daily is flaccid stretched length after training length. You can also measure girth after workout. These two measurements will show that you are seeing growth so you can make adjustments to your routine.

 

[DLD]

But be sure to measure from the same place every time you measure. For me I measure from the topside from extreme base pushing against the pubic bone to the tip of my penis. Girth I always measure mid shaft.

 

[trustr1]

Girth work update:
Decided to try and alternate between girth and length cycles.
Now working only on girth for last 2 weeks. While only wearing ADS during day.
Routine:
10-13min erect pump
5x7min python.
Then 2x5min ssj.
Then 2 rings for 20min.
I also pump 2-3 times a day soft 7-10min to keep the engorgement. On either work or rest day.
Morning measures went up to 12.0-1cm.

Last session
Peak erect clamped expension= 13.6-7cm
Peak erect post session + rings= 13.5cm
Post session expension clean= 12.7cm mid shaft, or slightly more just below glans (but that mainly fluffy skin addition).

Thanks

 

[DLD]

Great Work! How much have you gained since your start.

 

[trustr1]

Sorry for the late response. The website didn't work.
I started at 10.5cm eg, growed 1cm to 11.5 with SRT 5X5X3. Then it stopped. I introduced clamping. And maybe im about to take additional 0.5cm after 1.5 month or so. As i can see 12.0 even after 36 hours of my girth work. But i don't think it's cemented yet.

 

[DLD]

Just keep training till you have 1/2 inch beyond your goal and you will have cemented your goal size. Everything is looking good and you're really in a good place. I pray God helps you get to where you wanna be

 

[trustr1]

Just keep training till you have 1/2 inch beyond your goal and you will have cemented your goal size. Everything is looking good and you're really in a good place. I pray God helps you get to where you wanna be

Thank you dear brother

 

[DLD]

Thank you dear brother

Never a problem! Happy Easter!

 

[trustr1]

Took 6 days off to let collagen build
Seems like i fixed on 11.9-12.0

Returned today
15min pump up to 9.5inhg. Post pump was 12.7-13.0(depends on location) which was today biggest surprise but maybe fluids.

Then clamping and ssj.
Post session 12.7cm

However got really dark glans today

 

[DLD]

That is scary but thing to worry about. It should go away in about a week. Until that cut all exercises in half. If it does not go away in a week then I would take another week off.

 

[oldandlively]

It's not a problem actually. The darkness is merely the blood pressure being trapped on sensitive skin again. Suggestion is to perform C-jelqs forward to the glans, and then C-jelq back to the base of the penis. The redness will subside very quickly. It happens to me as well for the Length Master when I go a bit too crazy.

 

[trustr1]

Thanks
Yes it was subside in one-two days.
So i have a lot of doubts now regarding my PE work at this point.
Im not doing length work for about two months. I focused mainly on girth. Seems like i got few mms gain. But i don't see breakthrough in numbers lately as i was seeing in first month. Even after returning from a week decon.
I wonder if i should return the length work along with the girth work since anyhow i lost the newbie wave in girth clamping. Or maybe i need just the opposite to have more rest. And keep focus on girth which is more critical for me.

 

[oldandlively]

Thanks
Yes it was subside in one-two days.
So i have a lot of doubts now regarding my PE work at this point.

PE routines are pure customization after trials and errors. We just have to make sure to find that niche you fall into for your routines. Don't give up just yet. Our brothers who have it even harder on gains still being disciplined with their training to overcome some of the hardest plateau walls.

Im not doing length work for about two months. I focused mainly on girth. Seems like i got few mms gain. But i don't see breakthrough in numbers lately as i was seeing in first month. Even after returning from a week decon.

So, mm's gains on girth or length?

I wonder if i should return the length work along with the girth work since anyhow i lost the newbie wave in girth clamping. Or maybe i need just the opposite to have more rest. And keep focus on girth which is more critical for me.

One week of decon is considered the short decon among the program. Some brothers decon going as long as 1 month to 10 years. Mine was literally 10 years. So, let's refocus. Let's pull all the tools back and line them up. You got LM, MityVac, and MoSRed. Did you also have an extender in the mix? You may have to go this route to overcome a hard tunica tissue development. Some of us naturally have them.

Last thing to consider is constant heat source during your workout. MoS Red is great for 15 minutes, but a heat source is needed throughout the routine. Not sure what you have in term of a direct heat source to provide your tissues a constant temperature during the routine.

 

[trustr1]

Seems like i gained recently few mm in girth from pumping clamping and ssj.
I have LM, bathmate, mityvac, MOSRED, Best extender, phallosan forte, python. And infra NIR heat wrap.

For length i only used extender recently.. with heat wrap around. the LM to be honest is just too complicated and difficult to operate.

For girth i use everything. Bathmate, python, and my hands.. i use heat wrap only at the beggining of clamping.
I don't use MOSRED. as i dont have patience do be with my eyes closed doing nothing

 

[DLD]

Congratulations on the gains. What seems to be the problem with the lengthmaster? It is so valuable that you should find a solution to this so you make the fastest gains.

 

[oldandlively]

Seems like i gained recently few mm in girth from pumping clamping and ssj.
I have LM, bathmate, mityvac, MOSRED, Best extender, phallosan forte, python. And infra NIR heat wrap.

For length i only used extender recently.. with heat wrap around. the LM to be honest is just too complicated and difficult to operate.

Awesome. Let's tackle the scenario using the extenders instead, in combination with LM3. Ease into the game as you just come out of the short decon. Let's play the field with:

• 5 to 15 minutes of MOS Red to activate the cells.
• Use the LM3 basic exercises to loosen the tissues on the first 10 minutes while keeping the tissues heated not exceeding 4lbs of traction force. You may have to test your strength on this.
• Remove everything and jelq to get the blood flowing to prevent any discoloration on the glans.
• Use the LM3 bundled exercises to further loosen the tissues for 10 minutes while keeping the tissues heated, while not exceeding the 5lbs of traction force. Make sure the rotation and pulling force is equal on both sides.
• Remove everything and jelq to get the blood flowing to prevent any discoloration on the glans.
• Resume the LM3 normal exercises to further loosen the tissues for 10 minutes while keeping the tissues heated, while not exceeding the 5lbs of traction force. Normal exercises can include rotary cranks, left-right-up-down specific angle pulls.
• Remove everything and jelq to get the blood flowing to prevent any discoloration on the glans.

If you're pursuing girth, this is where you insert your girth routine. Keep it light within 15 to 20 minutes.

Extender:

• Use one of the extenders you feel the most comfortable in. First 2 hours, keep the penis in straight alignment with the extender.
• Next two hours, or when you take it off for a bit of relaxation or urination, rotate the penis shaft as far to one direction as possible.
• Following two hours, rotate the other direction.
• Have at least 1 hour or the rest of the remaining hour wearing it straight.

For girth i use everything. Bathmate, python, and my hands.. i use heat wrap only at the beggining of clamping.
I don't use MOSRED. as i dont have patience do be with my eyes closed doing nothing

LOL. Eyes don't need to be closed. Just don't worry too much about looking for every little gain.

 

[DLD]

LOL. Eyes don't need to be closed. Just don't worry too much about looking for every little gain.

That is the biggest mistake we have, measuring too frequently. This will make you desperate for gains and lower your enthusiasm. If we measure too often may make you wanna quit. Measure 1 time every 6 months and you will see incredible growth without all the fear.