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You will grow so fast.
Today i had the next session but altough i did pretty much the same procedure.
I didn't get the same results. :-(
Did 1st mityvac mostly 5-6inHG, 2nd and 3rd BM 7-8inHG.
The differences i can say are:
I was more tired, less hard erection.
Last time was after two weeks break
Last time was the first time i ever reached 8inhg
Last time, since i wasn't very trimmed, i had to repump all the time while i pump to 8 it was going down to 7 in 10sec and i was pumping again and again - more dynamic..
I wonder if it's something in my today session that wasn't optimized. Or that last time was the anomality since it was first time stepping up. And now my body build resistence already (so fast) to this pressure, and i need new high every time to get this expantion.. which of course is not possible at this rate..
I didn't get the same results. :-(
Did 1st mityvac mostly 5-6inHG, 2nd and 3rd BM 7-8inHG.
The differences i can say are:
I was more tired, less hard erection.
Last time was after two weeks break
Last time was the first time i ever reached 8inhg
Last time, since i wasn't very trimmed, i had to repump all the time while i pump to 8 it was going down to 7 in 10sec and i was pumping again and again - more dynamic..
I wonder if it's something in my today session that wasn't optimized. Or that last time was the anomality since it was first time stepping up. And now my body build resistence already (so fast) to this pressure, and i need new high every time to get this expantion.. which of course is not possible at this rate..
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You should start doing the 5x5x3 this will give you So much expansionToday i had the next session but altough i did pretty much the same procedure.
I didn't get the same results.
Did 1st mityvac mostly 5-6inHG, 2nd and 3rd BM 7-8inHG.
The differences i can say are:
I was more tired, less hard erection.
Last time was after two weeks break
Last time was the first time i ever reached 8inhg
Last time since i wasn't very trimmed i had to repump all the time while i pump to 8 it was going down to 7 in 10sec and i was pumping again and again - more dynamic..
I wonder if it's something in my today session that wasn't optimized. Or that last time was the anomality since it was first time stepping up. And now my body build already resistence(so fast) to this and i need new high every time to get this wider which of course is not possible at this rate..
Be patient and keep your eye on the future. Pe has ups and downs but you should gain bigrtime
Update on length work.
So after bleeding from LM i took couple of days off.
Then i removed the extra padding i added and tried again. So far, 3 session without blood.
I also made sure to open the chamber after 10min for circulaion.
Im on BTCBS now, took some time to manage, but now i finally feel good stretch.
I wonder about the amount of twists..
im still on 360 degree.
On the extender/ADS side.
For now i decided to return to the old extender. As I'm not managing very well with the SS... (glans damaged all the time that also interfere with the LM work..frequent vacuum loss.. frequent fluid retention.. sleeves that last for a day to a week.. the need to clean it from pee every session.. the need to mess with it too much..)
So after bleeding from LM i took couple of days off.
Then i removed the extra padding i added and tried again. So far, 3 session without blood.
I also made sure to open the chamber after 10min for circulaion.
Im on BTCBS now, took some time to manage, but now i finally feel good stretch.
I wonder about the amount of twists..
im still on 360 degree.
On the extender/ADS side.
For now i decided to return to the old extender. As I'm not managing very well with the SS... (glans damaged all the time that also interfere with the LM work..frequent vacuum loss.. frequent fluid retention.. sleeves that last for a day to a week.. the need to clean it from pee every session.. the need to mess with it too much..)
Give it a bit more time and adaption and you'll get the LM to work in your favor without any further issue. You're still in your adaption and conditioning stages. It will take a while. After 2 months, we'll come up with better game plans.
The twist degrees at 360 is good enough. It will be progressive as you go. If you can go past it , do so little by little. As your tissues become more malleable, you'll be able to twist even more. Be patient and twist a little more each day. Make sure to do it equally on both sides to max out the twisting capacity.
As for the ADS, looks like you're hitting an impasse state. It happened to me a few times switching between LM and ADS at the start too. I know what you mean when you get damages from SS while on LM. But that phase will pass as your glans's skin toughen. Rather than using the ADS during the damaged times, use the sleeve or the wrap to keep it elongated. I have to do it for 10 days after the initial damages from going a bit overboard on my first 3rd LM set.
The twist degrees at 360 is good enough. It will be progressive as you go. If you can go past it , do so little by little. As your tissues become more malleable, you'll be able to twist even more. Be patient and twist a little more each day. Make sure to do it equally on both sides to max out the twisting capacity.
As for the ADS, looks like you're hitting an impasse state. It happened to me a few times switching between LM and ADS at the start too. I know what you mean when you get damages from SS while on LM. But that phase will pass as your glans's skin toughen. Rather than using the ADS during the damaged times, use the sleeve or the wrap to keep it elongated. I have to do it for 10 days after the initial damages from going a bit overboard on my first 3rd LM set.
Agree100%
You're welcome my brother
By the way last night after SRT 5x5x3, my veins felt very much like they were harder so just by touching the penis i immedietly felt. It was very strange to touch. But also scary. It went down after some time.
Last night i might push a bit. Went up to 8.5+inhg.
Does it sound related to blood clots or not at all?
Also how often (number of sessions) should i go up by 1inHG? And up to what value? Because i guess you don't just go up endlessly..
Thanks
Last night i might push a bit. Went up to 8.5+inhg.
Does it sound related to blood clots or not at all?
Also how often (number of sessions) should i go up by 1inHG? And up to what value? Because i guess you don't just go up endlessly..
Thanks
It's not a blood clot. Just a vein being actively over stretched and overworked. Think of it as superficial thrombophlebitis, or just old irritation of the veins, a valve being pressed on or pushed too hard, or a kink on the valve by overpushing it. Massage it to get the valve relaxed in between each pump or set to minimize and prevent this.
It all depends on your needs for expansion. If you don't feel or see an expansion within 2 sets, that session needs a creep to a higher pressure. Most of the time, you can reach your moderate pressure and see expansion within the session.
Let's say your normal expansion is at 7inHg. You have great erection in the cylinder. But you are not seeing any expansion after two pump and SSJ sets. That third set, creep up to 8inHg for 30 seconds, drop back down to 7inHg for 30 seconds, back up, and back down until you use up your time. Dynamic pressure to keep yourself safe but pushing for an expansion.
You can even do this on your second set, and stay around 7inHg for the rest of the remaining set. This is your call.
No, you don't go up endlessly. You only go up in pressure when you don't see expansion. Smart expansion is the key. Not crazy high constant pressure. Leave that for the folks who like donut penis or those who have been pumping for decades.
Thanks a lot
I meant more in terms of progressing over time. Not during the session.
I have read somewhere you saying every like 3 weeks go up in the pressure. Don't stay in the same pressure to avoid resistence.
So i wanted to ask if i need to raise the pressure with 1inhg for example every 3 weeks or so, or something else. Or as long i have expention after the workout there is no need to go up.
And my followup question, if i do need to raise it. At what inHG i should stop?
Raise 1inHg when your body calls for it. This is due to resistance. It's a natural process once you go past 3.5inHg of pressure every 2 to 3 weeks. We have to redetermine our moderate pressure constant as we go past 5inHg every 2 to 3 weeks. To prevent high pressure resistance such as 10inHg and beyond, we do dynamic pressure at the lower level between 5inHg and 10inHg. Eventually, our dense tissues will force us to creep past 11inHg to initiate the expansion, but we drop back down below 10inHg to keep the expansion going. We don't need to stay at high pressure constantly to expand.
We have a safety cap limit of 10inHg. This should take a course of months or even past a year to reach. Some reaches very quickly from over working the routine. But, we should all avoid reaching the higher pressure too quickly.
Thanks. I feel i reached 8inhg too quickly. I will try to moderate and work with dynamic pressure more. Thanks a lot!
If you have 0.5 diameter as an expansion, that's around 1.6in of total circumference expansion. If your normal erection girth is 5.5in and you got 1.6in of expansion, you already got the optimized expansion you needed.
If you want to push for 1inHg higher pressure for bigger expansion, as long as you don't feel pains, fire up the pump.
Sounds like you can push it slightly harder. The gain is not phenomenal, but it's still good overall. If you don't see tremendous gains, just just means your tissues are restricting you from pushing harder to prevent injuries. As you increase the pressure by creeping up a bit more, slowly and safely, you will see immediate expansion past 0.5cm circumference. As the old saying goes, a collection of dust over time will build a mountain.
Took a week off. Yesterday got 1.0cm expansion again after.
I have a question though.
I remember at my 20's i tried PE, but i didn't understood it's a marathon and i was too excited to get fast result.
Anyway i was doing pumping and jelqing at the time for really short period. The point is i remember that even from start when i was taking it out from the pump my penis seems really big (altough it was shrinking back in a minute). I also remember that once in jelqing my penis looked huge and also measured very big. I did it maybe for a month top.
Today im 40. And i don't see such temporarly fast gains at all.
I also read in this forum that young people have more potential in PE. And i wonder why is that? Is that related to growth hormone or something else? And the following question is can we take some supplament or do something to generate more of the stuff youngest have naturally to get better PE results.
The other optional theory i have which sounds less probable to me, is that since in one of the sessions back than, i got too excited and got injured during jelqing (basically i think it was ripped vein as i saw black color spreads all over my shaft right after i felt very strange feeling) my penis have less ability to grow..
Thx
I have a question though.
I remember at my 20's i tried PE, but i didn't understood it's a marathon and i was too excited to get fast result.
Anyway i was doing pumping and jelqing at the time for really short period. The point is i remember that even from start when i was taking it out from the pump my penis seems really big (altough it was shrinking back in a minute). I also remember that once in jelqing my penis looked huge and also measured very big. I did it maybe for a month top.
Today im 40. And i don't see such temporarly fast gains at all.
I also read in this forum that young people have more potential in PE. And i wonder why is that? Is that related to growth hormone or something else? And the following question is can we take some supplament or do something to generate more of the stuff youngest have naturally to get better PE results.
The other optional theory i have which sounds less probable to me, is that since in one of the sessions back than, i got too excited and got injured during jelqing (basically i think it was ripped vein as i saw black color spreads all over my shaft right after i felt very strange feeling) my penis have less ability to grow..
Thx
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Yes. The young and the crazy years of our lives. We didn't put too much into investigation and researches before we do foolish things. The younger your are, the harder the body tries to recover the body presets back to normalcy.
This is an easy explanation: cellular malleability. Our bodies take long to heal, rebound, or have greater malleability to go further without higher level of injuries. Our bodies tend to switch to preservation mode as we get older. So all available resources go to constantly repairing the damages we don't see constantly. When you're young, that energy goes into growth and maintenance. The growth part a large portion to maintaining the cellular malleability for expansion, extending, and constant growth.
Yes. Most of the energy the cells are dedicated to is to get the male body into conditional growth for propagation, or reproduction. This is the instinctive pattern of keeping the human race alive. Once you hit 35 or so, that phase reduces and around 40, the growth phase stops completely and becomes regressive to preservation mode. That's why men who have kids at this age tend to have more chance of genetic anomalies than men who have kids in their 20s and 30s.
Yes. We're currently cracking plenty of hidden amino acids and components desired by the cells to have an abundant of. For men, that's amino acids, HMB, trace minerals, and plenty of rests and relaxation to keep cortisol levels way down.
You probably popped a capillary. If you pop a vein, I highly doubt you only get a black color spreading. Your entire penis would be looking like cherry color popsicle. Do allow up to 3 weeks for the capillaries to heal and seal before pressurizing again. Start at low pressure to ensure no possible tear occurs during pressurizing.
Thanks.
No no, i was telling about the injury i had at my 20's.
which is why i stopped PE back then.Interesting about amino acids etc.. would love to hear if you have more detailed actionable info.
Regarding keeping cortisol low, also interesting (for me personally), as im very stressed usually.
Read this and see if it's still not enough:Thanks.
No no, i was telling about the injury i had at my 20's.
Interesting about amino acids etc.. would love to hear if you have more detailed actionable info.
Regarding keeping cortisol low, also interesting (for me personally), as im very stressed usually.
bemorethanbig
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I did some PE at 30 and got some good small gains. I started again at 45 and loving my stats, so no I don't believe age is much of a factor but discipline.
With age I have learned three things. 1. I needed to think different, so I became a multi orgasmic man 2. I love having a good amount of cum and tasting good for my wife so I am on vitamins that are game changers. 3. I need to make sure my EQ is amazing so I will most likely water pump for life, rather than taking pills. But we will see in the future if that changes.
I have faith that your body fixed itself after that vein injury, Our bodies are amazing and should be able to heal.
That's what we do in the brotherhood....brother for brothers
bemorethanbig
Well-known member
Here is what some call a cum cocktail, this is to increase your load, in addition to this I added Bromelain for my cum taste. Mine is still a work in progress and differs from others.
Start with 1 through 4, A few weeks after add number 5. Then a few weeks after, subtract and add, and see what your body is asking for.
(1) a. Zinc, 50mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 50mg (with food), many report that this is too high zinc for many people so to reduce as your body wants
(2) Lecithin, 1200mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 1200mg (with food)
(3) Bromelain, 500mg, Taken 1 time daily =500mg (This really does make your cum taste good, wifey approved and verified, she is shocked that I don’t taste like anything or that it is no longer salty. (with or without food) (not a substitute for eating junk or not working out- only after you are on your A-game but nothing else works)
(4) a L-Arginine, 1000mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 1000mg (no food)
(5) Pygeum & Saw Palmetto, 160/50 mg Strength, Taken 2 times daily = 200mg (I could not take Pygeum in large doses, my stomach would hurt, so I am doing the mix of these with food) (some vets say this does not work for them, others love it- you must test on your self). I'm currently on a break from this, although I feel like I get good pre cum I'm not sure about the benefits vs the potential stomach pain. I'm still vetting.
Alternatives
(1) b Magnesium & Zinc, I have been doing this rather than a high dose of Zinc, which give me a stomach pain. I feel like Magnesium makes my mind work better, less stress with things in life that would cause me stress, but still in the early stages of testing. I also have been taken creatine, not just for muscle but for my mind!
(4) b, L-Carnitine , Hink has pushed that this is great but I have yet to test, I will switch this with L-Arginine and report back
Start with 1 through 4, A few weeks after add number 5. Then a few weeks after, subtract and add, and see what your body is asking for.
(1) a. Zinc, 50mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 50mg (with food), many report that this is too high zinc for many people so to reduce as your body wants
(2) Lecithin, 1200mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 1200mg (with food)
(3) Bromelain, 500mg, Taken 1 time daily =500mg (This really does make your cum taste good, wifey approved and verified, she is shocked that I don’t taste like anything or that it is no longer salty. (with or without food) (not a substitute for eating junk or not working out- only after you are on your A-game but nothing else works)
(4) a L-Arginine, 1000mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 1000mg (no food)
(5) Pygeum & Saw Palmetto, 160/50 mg Strength, Taken 2 times daily = 200mg (I could not take Pygeum in large doses, my stomach would hurt, so I am doing the mix of these with food) (some vets say this does not work for them, others love it- you must test on your self). I'm currently on a break from this, although I feel like I get good pre cum I'm not sure about the benefits vs the potential stomach pain. I'm still vetting.
Alternatives
(1) b Magnesium & Zinc, I have been doing this rather than a high dose of Zinc, which give me a stomach pain. I feel like Magnesium makes my mind work better, less stress with things in life that would cause me stress, but still in the early stages of testing. I also have been taken creatine, not just for muscle but for my mind!
(4) b, L-Carnitine , Hink has pushed that this is great but I have yet to test, I will switch this with L-Arginine and report back
When you use the semen concentration and flavoring methods, make sure to stay away from counter productive foods and drink. Coffee, tea, asparagus, dairy products, and many more, including medical/pharma grade products. The list can be as long as a short novel.
Hi. Long time wasn't here.
Short update: took some time off from PE. Besides being on extender 5-6 hours a day. Since i was a bit sick.
Pumping - i almost certain that 1st session with narrow mityvac, and then 2nd and 3rd session with BM works better for me than doing the 2nd and 3rd with wider mityvac.
I just see more expantion and feel less pain and difficulty pumping with the BM.
So i will switch back to that for the next period.
P.s i noticed that in like the first 7cm from the base the girth is filling the mityvac cylinder while the rest is not. And you can see the space between penis and the cylinder wall.
I wonder if that's normal. Or i accidently pump the base on expense of the rest and i wonder if there is a workaround that. I try to keep the balls out of course as much as possible. Attaching picture.
Short update: took some time off from PE. Besides being on extender 5-6 hours a day. Since i was a bit sick.
Pumping - i almost certain that 1st session with narrow mityvac, and then 2nd and 3rd session with BM works better for me than doing the 2nd and 3rd with wider mityvac.
I just see more expantion and feel less pain and difficulty pumping with the BM.
So i will switch back to that for the next period.
P.s i noticed that in like the first 7cm from the base the girth is filling the mityvac cylinder while the rest is not. And you can see the space between penis and the cylinder wall.
I wonder if that's normal. Or i accidently pump the base on expense of the rest and i wonder if there is a workaround that. I try to keep the balls out of course as much as possible. Attaching picture.
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Good to see you back brother. Looks like you're filling out.
Yes. But it's not even. Filled near the base to the max but the rest not filled
Thanks
Just to clarify. Im using this narrow cylinder now only in the 1st session out of three. Should i continue that way or change anything?
Use one narrow cylinder until you cannot use it any more, either be 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd session. Use it until your entire penile shaft cannot fit it any longer. Then switch up. This method is iso-linear pumping, creating good consistent tissue breakdown and rebuild within the confined volumetric area. It helps to conform the penile body to grow in accordance to the promoting sizes.
Sounds great.
Thank you!