New Viagra Questions....

[donalgodon]

I could not find the answer to these specific questions after a search so....


1. What is the best way to cut a 100mg tablet of Viagra, if I wanted to quarter it into 25mg tablets?

2. Any users who have experienced increased heart rate on 25mg doses of Viagra? I have been scanning the literature and it seems that there are conflicting reports, but the JAMA and other more reputable sources are claiming that Viagra actually lowers both blood pressure and heart rate, and improves exercise tolerance, essentially blunting the heart's response to exercise induced stress.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/08/020807064924.htm

Any feedback? I am considering the use of a very small dose recreationally, but I am very interested to hear about others responses to smaller doses. I am sure that I will not use over 50mg, and in all likelihood will not exceed 25mg, but as this is new to me, I wanted to solicit responses from anyone who might have experience before I take the plunge.

 

[monet]

I would advise using a razor to split the pill. A knife may not sharp enough.

Remember, if you're interested in the real Viagra and you're healthy, this may be much different from using the generic Viagra since the real thing is much more potent. The real Viagra was way too intense for me (even using 1/4), but 1/2 of a generic was good enough for good results without any side effects like pro-longed erections or increased heart rate. But that's my experience. Maybe other members can share their experiences.

 

[MoreGains123]

Your local pharmacy should sell a Pill Cutter. Viagra is very hard and can shatter if not cut properly. I started with a 25mg: just to see if I would have any of the negative effects. I've never taken more than 50mg.

 

[donalgodon]

Your local pharmacy should sell a Pill Cutter. Viagra is very hard and can shatter if not cut properly. I started with a 25mg: just to see if I would have any of the negative effects. I've never taken more than 50mg.

What was the 25mg effect for you? Can you elucidate a little?

 

[KingD]

I got my pill splitter from Wal-greens and when I took a 25mg dose, I just cut the viagra in half and than cut a half of the pill in half. I took 25mg just to see if it would work and I could tell it was working, but not up to a 50mg dose standard. When I took the 50mg dose I also took an aspirin as a way to prevent headaches and it thins out the blood boosting the erection effects of the V. The 50mg dose had my erection so hard it was pumping with my heartbeat. I could have sex all night and not even worry about having an orgasm too soon because my erection was so hard, I would actually really have to force myself to have an orgasm. Sounds alittle funny, but it is true. I forgot to mention that I got my generic viagra from alldaychemist, so I hope this helps you out.

 

[MoreGains123]

What was the 25mg effect for you? Can you elucidate a little?

I didn't notice that much frankly.

 

[donalgodon]

I got my pill splitter from Wal-greens and when I took a 25mg dose, I just cut the viagra in half and than cut a half of the pill in half. I took 25mg just to see if it would work and I could tell it was working, but not up to a 50mg dose standard. When I took the 50mg dose I also took an aspirin as a way to prevent headaches and it thins out the blood boosting the erection effects of the V. The 50mg dose had my erection so hard it was pumping with my heartbeat. I could have sex all night and not even worry about having an orgasm too soon because my erection was so hard, I would actually really have to force myself to have an orgasm. Sounds alittle funny, but it is true. I forgot to mention that I got my generic viagra from alldaychemist, so I hope this helps you out.

I have read that some experience an anorgasmic response to Viagra.

Did it take away the sensation of the orgasm itself, or just reduce the urge to have one?

Some said that it made the experience less pleasurable. I would appreciate any thoughts you might have on the subject, or anyone else who might have experience in this arena. As I said, I am a total newb to Viagra.

Did you notice any side effects at 50mg?

 

[donalgodon]

I didn't notice that much frankly.

But the 50mg dose was sufficient? Did you notice any side effects at 50mg?

 

[DLD]

25 really is fine for Penis Enlargement exercise. Sex should not require too much more. I think that the "recommended dosages" are a bit high.

 

[Bionic]

I've read studies on both V and C. Both suggest that there was no difference in quality/duration of erection between 50 & 100 mgs of Viagra and no difference between 10 and 20 mgs. of Cialis. And depending on where you purchase it, the potency of generics are either the same or slightly higher. Buyer beware. Personally, I take 5mgs of C everyday M-F. It works great this way, no sides and I'm always on the verge of getting a full-blown erection.

 

[donalgodon]

Do most experience the anorgasmic effect?

Does it detract from the overrall sexual experience?

Do most experience the "buzz" that some have talked about here?

 

[donalgodon]

Anybody ever take L-Arginine with Viagra? The two don't work on the same biological pathway, but it stands to reason that more L-Arginine would potentiate the NO production boost of the Viagra. Any thoughts?

 

[AfroMan10]

Anybody ever take L-Arginine with Viagra? The two don't work on the same biological pathway, but it stands to reason that more L-Arginine would potentiate the NO production boost of the Viagra. Any thoughts?

I take them both, and yeah it does boost the v. I take 150mgs of the generic v, which probably = 100mgs of real v, since the generic is underdosed

 

[donalgodon]

I take them both, and yeah it does boost the v. I take 150mgs of the generic v, which probably = 100mgs of real v, since the generic is underdosed

How much L-Arginine do you take and do you take it at the same time as the V?

Do you notice any side-effects?

 

[MoreGains123]

But the 50mg dose was sufficient? Did you notice any side effects at 50mg?

I didn't notice Viagra doing that much for me no matter what the does was. With a lot of foreplay I get pretty hard anyway. I knew it didn't make you hornier, but I sort of hoped it had some effect like that.

 

[saber]

I do the same thing, I usually buy viagra 100mg and split them in 4 with a pill cutter. All I need is 25mg and it does not get me rock hard but good enough to penetrate, there are actually a few good pill cutters for viagra or cialis specifically, this site has loads of information on it and one of their blog post points out why viagra is so hard to split? The reason is it does not have a score in the middle, most other medications all have scores down the center so you can easily split them in two. And the shocking part is that both Viagra 100mg and Viagra 50mg are the same price, so it just makes sense to invest in a pill cutter and split the 100mg in 2 or 4

Here is a pic of the one I have:

Cheers
Saber

 

[donalgodon]

Are the generics difficult to split also? Just like the "name brand" ones?

 

[saber]

Not sure, never tried the generics? If they have a score in the middle them yes...

 

[donalgodon]

Do most generics have a score in the middle? Never tried them yet, so I don't know.

 

[goinfor11x7]

I used V for years and hated the side effects--headache and altered vision--kind of a greenish hue to it. Its effects were immediate for me--within the hour, especially if you take it without any food in your stomach. The generic and non-generic are both difficult to cut into halves and quarters, but all you really need is a quarter.

I prefer Cialis now. It gives me a good erection for a day and a half--actually seems to work better 24 hours after I take it. Keeps me "plump" throughout the 36 hour period. The generic Cialis also seems to work better for me than the generic Viagra did. I don't have the side effects from Cialis that I did with Viagra. Viagra DOES lower your blood pressure, so if you are taking b.p. medication, be careful.

I haven't noticed any difference in my orgasms with the two.

 

[donalgodon]

I used V for years and hated the side effects--headache and altered vision--kind of a greenish hue to it. Its effects were immediate for me--within the hour, especially if you take it without any food in your stomach. The generic and non-generic are both difficult to cut into halves and quarters, but all you really need is a quarter.

I prefer Cialis now. It gives me a good erection for a day and a half--actually seems to work better 24 hours after I take it. Keeps me "plump" throughout the 36 hour period. The generic Cialis also seems to work better for me than the generic Viagra did. I don't have the side effects from Cialis that I did with Viagra. Viagra DOES lower your blood pressure, so if you are taking b.p. medication, be careful.

I haven't noticed any difference in my orgasms with the two.

Thanks. What was the dose of Viagra that you took? Did you have those side-effects at only 25mg?

 

[goinfor11x7]

More so when I took 50 mg.--100, for sure. You don't need 100 mg. You usually get the same results from 25 mg. Sometimes it takes 50 mg. But the results of 50 mg. and 100 mg. were always the same for me. 100 mg. of Viagra is overkill.

Remember to always take Viagra (or Cialis) on an empty stomach. Take it with milk since it is hard on your stomach.

 

[donalgodon]

I just wanted to share my experience with AllDayChemist, and to condense my experience into a brief story. Just a little background first, some of which I have already shared here. I started having ED at around 38 after a botched vasectomy that gave me lots of pain and some serious testicular atrophy due to the medical error. This was a difficult thing for me emotionally, because it took away my feelings of "manhood" and pretty severely damaged my health. My Testosterone levels fell 50% in one year, and I was pretty depressed. I should also mention that I spent 17 years prior to the vasectomy living with a angry, cruel, materialistic woman (17 years of pure torture) but I couldn't make myself divorce. I thought it was wrong, or that I was a failure if I did. Well, I did it. Now, two years later, I have a fantastic wife, and a wonderful relationship, like nothing I have ever known. I have a new life, a good wife who is beautiful and sexy, and when I wanted to make love to her, I couldn't perform. I went through a long process of rehabilitation, and supplementation to regain my overall health, and my erections improved about 75% but still not where they were prior. I started using a cock ring facilitate the process, and it helps, but I wanted to try the Viagra from AllDdayChemst because of the price.

I ordered and got the order within about 2-3 weeks. Prior to this, I was not only having difficulty maintaining erection, but also experiencing rapid ejaculation as well. Two problems for the price of one. I would ejaculate sometimes before I could even penetrate, and if I could penetrate, sometimes within 5-10 seconds! I hated it.

I started with 1/4 dose of the generic Viagra, and added some L-Arginine (I usually take L-Arginine anyway) and I was very pleased with the results. I have read that L-Arginine can be used to potentiate the Viagra, so I wanted to use as little Viagra as I could, to reduce side-effects, etc. I did not experience any side-effects that I could notice (maybe a very slight stuffy nose) and my erections were much firmer and easier to maintain. Even taking a break or changing positions didn't cause me to lose it, and before (without the Viagra) I would have lost it about 99% of the time. I did not even wear the cock ring that I normally would wear, because I wanted to see how everything would be without the ring, and I can say that I am very pleased. This is my first order with AllDayChemist, and my first experience with any ED medication. It felt really normal. Almost like I felt before the botched vasectomy. Overall, I would say that the amount I spent was well worth the investment. I probably won't use it all the time, because I hope that I will continue to regain function naturally, but it helped me to feel normal again, and that makes a difference. My wife has been very supportive, and she deserves a mention. It is pretty terrible how ED can effect a relationship.

 

[DLD]

Shapes vary between different generics.

 

[goinfor11x7]

Have you done much kegeling? A good kegeling routine should also help you with the premature ejaculations.

I am so happy for you that you have bounced back and landed on your feet after some tough times. I felt the way you have felt when I first used Viagra. But my jelqing routine along with the kegels really licked my E.D. problem.