but yesterday i measured both and both were the same number is this by chance only
or sometime this happen ?
thank you
or sometime this happen ?
thank you
Some brothers do have the same flaccid (soft penis) and erected (hard penis) length. This is not uncommon. I can say that around 28% of the male population has this phenomenon.
So, for your logging record, you can use even if they are the same:
NBPFSL: xx cm
NBEL: xx cm
In PE, as you grow, your erected length commonly becomes longer than your flaccid. But in some cases, both flaccid and erect lengths will be the same. You don't have to worry too much on it. It will look more pleasing to your partner.
@DLD @oldandlively
is erection gain is the hardest ?
i feel my flaccid NBFL gained 0.5 cm while erection NBEL gained only 0.2-0.3 cm only
after 3 weeks exercises jelqing
is erection gain is the hardest ?
i feel my flaccid NBFL gained 0.5 cm while erection NBEL gained only 0.2-0.3 cm only
after 3 weeks exercises jelqing
NBEL is less as you put it than he flaccid. Why? Flaccid, for NBFL, is when the state of your ligaments and muscles are relaxed. When they are relaxed, the length becomes more.
When you are erected, your tissues tighten up, your muscles contract, and your tunica ligaments may curve, causing your length to shorten. This is why your NBEL is less than than your NBFL.
@DLD @oldandlively
i have question i am really thankful to you
do penis contract after exercise and get shorter flaccid & erect ?
no gains even at all & less than normal even
& flaccid 0.5 cm less than normal
i feel that after measuring
i have question i am really thankful to you
do penis contract after exercise and get shorter flaccid & erect ?
no gains even at all & less than normal even
& flaccid 0.5 cm less than normal
i feel that after measuring
Very common. This is when your body detects something is not right, and the stresses to the penis is too much. The body try to preserve itself by turtling, or retraction, to prevent injuries. Every time you perform PE, you are causing micro injuries. The body does not like it.
@oldandlively @DLD
soon i will measure the result of 1 month jelqing
i wonder how to reach maximum erection
i am thinking to use videos that contain high arousing content & light massaging to penis
is this a good idea ?
i am thinking too to wait 24 hrs from the last time jelqing then measure is this a good idea too ??!!!!
thank you from the deep of my heart
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Don't wonder. Attempt to reach maximum erection at all time if you can during your jelqing sessions if you can, and ONLY if you can. This is erect jelqing. For those who have issues with constant erectile quality, it's something to train your brain to find a way to do it. Even I have a hard time keeping a solid erection constantly without stimulation, but it doesn't stop me from trying to reprogram my brain to do so.
Best to keep the adult entertainment videos out of your life as much as you can. I can understand using some photographic content to initiate your stimulation, but even that needs to be minimized. If you have a partner, or an imaginary partner of choice, use that photographic aid to help you. But for the videos, stay away from it. Use your mind to generate the imaginative visualization you need. Otherwise, the world of PIED can come back to haunt you. It's as dangerous as drug addiction.
When you want to measure, measure two levels: after jelqing sessions to measure your POTENTIAL gains and 24 hours after for the normalcy state. Normalcy state is when your body has time to reset everything. Your potential gain sizes predict what your body is willing to yield to your gains and your body is willing to reset itself to the new states if you're willing to keep going forward with your training. There is a hard limit where you body says, "Enough is enough." Your body will not provide that new potential sizes you want because the body hasn't catch up with its reprogramming yet. Your body and brain actually have hard limits programmed into your very DNA to prevent you from killing yourself. it's the same with your muscles and skeletal structures. You can't go past that limit no matter how much drugs you use and how hard to try. The safety switches are built in to prevent you from killing yourself.
However, in the world of PE, there is a way to go around those hard limits, but it does take time and patience. DLD already proved to us that hard limits for the penis can be overcame with a lot of hard work.
I did go hard to get what I wanted and it was extremely hardcore doing 3 sessions of SRT daily. I would not recommend this to newbies as one session is enough. This is more directed at large men who are struggling for gains. I have coached many men who are large with these same needs.
@oldandlively @DLD
after about 30 hrs of the last jelqing
after 3.5 weeks of jelqing
there is a gain in flaccid NBFL 0.5 cm &
loss in erection NBEL 0.5 cm from my normal length no gain at all in erection but loss !!!!!
is this normal ?
really sorry if there is disturbance
after about 30 hrs of the last jelqing
after 3.5 weeks of jelqing
there is a gain in flaccid NBFL 0.5 cm &
loss in erection NBEL 0.5 cm from my normal length no gain at all in erection but loss !!!!!
is this normal ?
really sorry if there is disturbance
No worries brother. Your body is trying to recover itself. Don't worry too much about it. Once you stretch, try to find way to keep your penis elongated after your stretching. You'll notice in a bit of time that your elongation stretches after the routines will stretch your NBEL more and more. It will take a bit of time. Just focus on the routines and not worry about the body tries to fight every day. Just push forward slowly, and safely.
i really have no idea to keep my penis elongated after jelqing i have no penis sleeve or extender or things like that
should i take rest for 48 hrs for example or 3 days ?
or continue my routine
& go on the second month ?!!!!
thank you
You can simply use flexible bandage. Cheap and all over the place.
Don't take 48 hours off. 3 days of exercises, one day off. Not two. Keep going forward.
but erection length never get shorter after jelqing
right ?
i want you to reassure me
No, it doesn't erection length is a hard permanent length. It does not shorten after you have a permanent gain. During the period of growth, the length can fluctuate, but does not shorten past your existing permanent erection size, unless you have a genetic deformity.
I agree you should never go for more than 1 day. You can adjust what you're doing to make things more comfortable for you but the 1 off 1 on is a logical time off.
@oldandlively @DLD
yesterday i made jelqing 4:00 am
today it is 7 am i measured my NBPEL it is 10 cm instead of 12 cm which is the normal the time before from several days ago
i measured it is 11.5 cm
i am very anxious i will try to take 2 days off to see if my erectile length will be enhanced to the normal or not
i am about to finish my first month jelqing
i got gain in flaccid 0.5 cm
but what worry me is the erectile length
yesterday i made jelqing 4:00 am
today it is 7 am i measured my NBPEL it is 10 cm instead of 12 cm which is the normal the time before from several days ago
i measured it is 11.5 cm
i am very anxious i will try to take 2 days off to see if my erectile length will be enhanced to the normal or not
i am about to finish my first month jelqing
i got gain in flaccid 0.5 cm
but what worry me is the erectile length
First, let's calm down and think things through logically, and scientifically. Now, let's get a clear understanding and we need you to provide proper info:
When you measure NPEL before the PE routines, was it 11.5 cm?
Did you measure the same exact location each time, pressing the same location each time and above the penis at the exact location each time? If you deviated from the same measuring location, you will tend to lose some length because the fat and skin thickness is different everywhere around the pubic.
Flaccid gain is common as your penis stretches.
We don't lose the original erectile length, unless there is strange genetic deformity like we discussed earlier. What we think we lost in length is actually the muscles under the base of the penis trying to pull the penis inwards because you're developing strong base muscles. In reality, the erected length is exactly the same as your muscles relax. That can be observed through the flaccid state. We use the Length Master or mechanical assist devices to tug against the ligaments and base muscles to counter the body biological pulling as the base muscles get stronger over time. It's very normal.
Again, it's a very normal process. You're not losing any length. Just verify with us the questions above. From there, we will teach you how to pop the length back using length routine exercises through the SRT.
@oldandlively
may i know how many hours of rest exactly do penis need
i feel there is so much happening after exercise
it contract for hours may be for 12-24 hours it decrease in length
so my questions is how many hours exactly of rest do penis need
if i am going on 1 day & 1 day off
is it 48 hours from one jelqing to another jelqing ?!!!!
is this ok ?!!!!!
thank you
may i know how many hours of rest exactly do penis need
i feel there is so much happening after exercise
it contract for hours may be for 12-24 hours it decrease in length
so my questions is how many hours exactly of rest do penis need
if i am going on 1 day & 1 day off
is it 48 hours from one jelqing to another jelqing ?!!!!
is this ok ?!!!!!
thank you
Brother @kriskros knows exactly what's to be expected. 1 day off is more than enough. Like I mentioned earlier, 1 day off is actually more than 24 hours off since your last routine. You don't want your tissues to be too cooled or too relaxed after the routine.
Your cells started to regenerate and repair roughly a second or so after you start damaging it. In reality, from the moment the cell is damaged to repair, the latest is 4 hours. Duplication processes start around 6 to 8 hours, and in 24 hours, new cells are formed.
So, let say you performed PE routine yesterday around 6PM for two to three days in a row. You wrapped up and remained elongated. Technically, you're ready to go again 6PM today. BUT, during a day rest, yesterday's 6PM to today's 6PM is 24 hours. Tomorrow's 6PM is considered as 48 hours. That's already a very longer period of rest time.
1 day on, 1 day off, that's practically 48 hours of rest time for too little work. I can understand if you just start on the PE journey in the first two months, but as you progress into the third month and on, you have to be on the routine for two to three days in a row before taking that day off.
Of course, this is your choice. You will not see a dramatic increase in gains, but some gains along the way.
Your cells started to regenerate and repair roughly a second or so after you start damaging it. In reality, from the moment the cell is damaged to repair, the latest is 4 hours. Duplication processes start around 6 to 8 hours, and in 24 hours, new cells are formed.
So, let say you performed PE routine yesterday around 6PM for two to three days in a row. You wrapped up and remained elongated. Technically, you're ready to go again 6PM today. BUT, during a day rest, yesterday's 6PM to today's 6PM is 24 hours. Tomorrow's 6PM is considered as 48 hours. That's already a very longer period of rest time.
1 day on, 1 day off, that's practically 48 hours of rest time for too little work. I can understand if you just start on the PE journey in the first two months, but as you progress into the third month and on, you have to be on the routine for two to three days in a row before taking that day off.
Of course, this is your choice. You will not see a dramatic increase in gains, but some gains along the way.
I love 3 on 1 off. It is far better than 1 on 1 off. As oldandlively said the penis does go into repair immediately after you train. at this point you want to go and wrap your penis as this will help in keeping your penis elongated as long as possible. On your day of continue wrapping and kegels. Also do some deep tissue massage.
hi @oldandlively
i made penis wrap from gauze and plaster
i made it so tight to fight the pull power that exist extensively
btw i have 2.5 cm fats and BPFL finally after the last month jelqing 10 cm NBPFL about 7.5 cm when i sit down fats become condensed and rise to about 4 cm and penis become 5.5 cm i think
the warp i made will catch the penis from the pull
how long should i put it to get a good effect and get rid of all pull power and stop it ?
weeks , months , years ?
i seem to have a very efficient massive pull power
there is no risk on erection what i made ?do you think ?
if i put it for day or days
is there still a need for jelqing ?
when i sit down there is a big pull force
i notice the maximum pull force is when i move from place to another
depite the warp i am putting the head is pulling to inward
the shaft is caught but the head is pulled after i move somewhat
impossible what is happening
should i catch the head too by the warp ??
should i give the penis a rest from this wrap that made of gauze & plaster ?
i made penis wrap from gauze and plaster
i made it so tight to fight the pull power that exist extensively
btw i have 2.5 cm fats and BPFL finally after the last month jelqing 10 cm NBPFL about 7.5 cm when i sit down fats become condensed and rise to about 4 cm and penis become 5.5 cm i think
the warp i made will catch the penis from the pull
how long should i put it to get a good effect and get rid of all pull power and stop it ?
weeks , months , years ?
i seem to have a very efficient massive pull power
there is no risk on erection what i made ?do you think ?
if i put it for day or days
is there still a need for jelqing ?
when i sit down there is a big pull force
i notice the maximum pull force is when i move from place to another
depite the warp i am putting the head is pulling to inward
the shaft is caught but the head is pulled after i move somewhat
impossible what is happening
should i catch the head too by the warp ??
should i give the penis a rest from this wrap that made of gauze & plaster ?
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PE is a journey full of new and witty inventions my brother. Just make sure not to cut off your blood flow. If you can create a good grip strength for manual work, even better. Your arms may be growing pretty strong since you're working your arms with biological weights in your hands.
If you can stretch, but your penis suddenly get an erection, well, can't be help there. Erect stretching can be painful, but it's not a problem.
The common pulling force is the same as hanging weight constant traction force, which is 0.23kg or 0.5lb every two to three weeks. Don't go crazy and exceed this traction load too soon since you can cause serious injury to yourself before your penis can adopt to different traction loads.
Your head/glans won't warp. It will get larger, but it doesn't warp with strange sizes for the left or right side.
Jelqing is for getting to blood flow into the penis and remove old blood out of the penis. It's a good practice to have at least 50 jelq after each PE routine, just to get new blood to flow into it.
If you can stretch, but your penis suddenly get an erection, well, can't be help there. Erect stretching can be painful, but it's not a problem.
The common pulling force is the same as hanging weight constant traction force, which is 0.23kg or 0.5lb every two to three weeks. Don't go crazy and exceed this traction load too soon since you can cause serious injury to yourself before your penis can adopt to different traction loads.
Your head/glans won't warp. It will get larger, but it doesn't warp with strange sizes for the left or right side.
Jelqing is for getting to blood flow into the penis and remove old blood out of the penis. It's a good practice to have at least 50 jelq after each PE routine, just to get new blood to flow into it.
how often should i put this wrap ?
Wrapping is daily, as best as you can. If you no longer pursue PE, that's when you stop wrapping to keep your penis elongated.
i felt my penis s skin got red and i couldnt remove the wrap i become so worry and
there is urine drops dropped out of my penis
i become full if fear then
is it ok to warp my penis during sleep everyday and that is it everyday
is this will enhance this shrinkage to a very small size
do i need a rest ??!!!!
can i put it every other day 6-7 hours with the jelqing to enhable penis repair and new cells formation
i want a delicate routine becoz i am so beginner
someone here said to me you must jelq 20 mins twice aday and this impossible to me as i said to you before
i am full of thanks to you really
Yep. That's too tight. Relax the wrap. It should be tight to the point where you can't urinate properly. A good elongated wrap is when you are still able to urinate without any problem.
This wrap method is constricting the urethra. This causes urinary incontinence. Not a good thing.
Yes, you can, but you have to properly wrap it so that there is ABSOLUTELY no blood flow cut off. This is why I suggest TheraBand end points wrap and the soft sleeve.
Yes, the tight wrap will make your girth compresses. Not good. You need to loosen it.
Yes. Suggestion to rest is 8 hours a day during sleep time. It goes against the suggestion above, but for most of us that do heavy PE routines, we need a full 8 hours of rest, not doing anything else to the penis.
Yes you can. Proper wrapping for the first 5 to 9 hours will provide spaces where new cells duplicate. The longest is 24 hours.
i want a delicate routine becoz i am so beginner
As a beginner, use beginner's routines. You are an intermediate once you use at least three months of begineer's routine.
someone here said to me you must jelq 20 mins twice aday and this impossible to me as i said to you before
20 minutes a day is a general statement. Each jelqing method is different. 20 minutes a day for SSJ is only 3 to 4 sets. 20 minutes a day for C-jelqs, you can go as many as 400 3-second jelqs. So, it's really is depending on what kind of jelq you're doing.
i feel penis after wrapping is contracted get shorter in length
so i think it need 24 hour rest to renew cells
in my new month of jelqing
i will make it in the same day of jelqing every other day during the sleep of this day
and i will leave 24 hour rest from wraping and jelqing
what do you think of my idea ?
during day for me is difficult becoz fat pad pull the penis during moving and sitting and leaning there is so much moving and pulling force become so much and i need to wrap it so so strong which is wrong as you know
If you believe wrapping is not helping you, then try it without wrapping and see if that works better for you.
Give it a try and see if that works well for you. You never know what works and what does not until you venture forward with it.
No worries. Try all different methods to see what works best for you brother.
Not sure if baby powder is using talcum power or magnesium carbonate. Talcum is banded in baby powder in most of the world now because of its cancer-causing agent.
i think i could use this wrap as penis extender
but i always wonder why penis extender dont need days rest from it
usually it recommended to use it for 6-8 hrs daily unlike jelqing which need days rest
Correct. Extender, or extending devices that also included in a wrapping layout, should be used from 4 hours minimum, all the way until you go to sleep. Remember, 24 hours is what you're aiming for to let the cells duplicate as much as they can. That last 8 hours of the day when you sleep is allowing the body just to perform a reset back to normal.
I think smarter tactics here are better. I mean, working smarter. You need tools my friend and there is no way that wrapping does not help. You should go for silistretcher if you need to have elongated penis for prolonged time because it's comfortable - after your routine i mean.
Just go for srt. If you are young fast results are guaranteed but you need to work on this. No results are gained without hard work.
Just go for srt. If you are young fast results are guaranteed but you need to work on this. No results are gained without hard work.
Just regular baby powder. I hope this doesn't hurt me. Is there another powder we can use?
i made jelqing today after the wrap during sleep
the penis seem to be contracted it cant go out and relax and be flaccid as it usually even after warm water bath
do you have any recommendation ?
thank you really
Got it. Your body is still in its adoptive phases to keep the penile shaft in a flaccid and relaxed state. This is known as the "preservation mode" the body normally undergoes to preserve itself from damage. When you wrap your penis all night, the body thinks, "Hey, why is the penis still extended during rest!?" and force itself to go into preservation mode.
So, you can keep wrapping all day and all night until the body gets the point where it should not retract any more, or you can constantly apply heat while you're in elongated wraps to encourage the body to keep relaxing without retracting. One way or the other, you have to reprogram your brain that this is normal.
i finish my first month jelqing
day rountine & day off
tomorrow i will measure the gains if this month
but i think it is about 0.5 cm
the next month i m thinking to increase intensity
which is the most delicate to do it ?and which is roughest ?
2 days routine 10 min each and day off
or
increase duration of routine 15 min everyother day
or
13 min every other day
i fear becoz i lost the erection before when i made stretching 15 min stretching 4 times a week
thank you
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i have just measured my penis
the flaccid gained about 0.7 cm
but the erection is very contracted it is less than than the normal by 1 cm
i will wait untill tomorrow morning and see if it return to normal
if not should i wait another day
untill sunday morning ? or what should i do ?
@oldandlively
thank you
the flaccid gained about 0.7 cm
but the erection is very contracted it is less than than the normal by 1 cm
i will wait untill tomorrow morning and see if it return to normal
if not should i wait another day
untill sunday morning ? or what should i do ?
@oldandlively
thank you
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To measure, perform at two points:
- Measure after you perform your PE routines, both erected and flaccid. This is measuring your potential gains.
- Measure again during your rest day, allowing at least 12 hours of rest first. Measure both erected and flaccid. This is measuring your normal state that will reach your potential gains. Sometimes it matches your potential gains, but most of the time, it's somewhere between the original measurement and the potential gains.
When you increase intensity, start with 2 days of increase in intensity with 10 minutes if you like. But slowly increase up to 15 minutes if you have time. Then 1 day off. But it's best to keep going for 3 days, and 1 day off with the same increased intensities.
If you lose erection quality with 4 days on, and 1 day off, decrease it to 3 days on, and 1 day off. Your penis will build up resistant to the intensity if you allow too much rest time with too little workout time.
I would do both increase intensity and go with 2 on 1 off. That sounds like a good starting point. As you progress you can go even further. What you should know is to share all questions and concerns so we can always be as prepared as you can. We have a beautiful brotherhood here, and you should take advantage of everything you can so that when you're having any issues or you're planning a change. Let us know about it so we can help you. Pe is a marathon, not a walk in the park. So prepare yourself for that marathon by staying in touch with your body and knowing what to do.Nexti finish my first month jelqing
day rountine & day off
tomorrow i will measure the gains if this month
but i think it is about 0.5 cm
the next month i m thinking to increase intensity
which is the most delicate to do it ?and which is roughest ?
2 days routine 10 min each and day off
or
increase duration of routine 15 min everyother day
or
13 min every other day
i fear becoz i lost the erection before when i made stretching 15 min stretching 4 times a week
thank you
@oldandlively
thats what i decide for the new month
routine every other day ( day & day off )
my routine
warm water for 8-10 min
stretching ( idk if this order is right ?!!! up - right- left - down - forward each direction for 30 second ) then 1 minute rest
( 3 session of stretching 2.5 min each & 1 min rest between each session ) total 10.5 min
jelqing for 10 min
kegel 5 sec and rest for 5 sec for 1 minute
warm water for 6 min
is there any mistake of my routine ?
the result of 1 st month was 0.5 cm flaccid & no gain or loss of erection length
thank you
thats what i decide for the new month
routine every other day ( day & day off )
my routine
warm water for 8-10 min
stretching ( idk if this order is right ?!!! up - right- left - down - forward each direction for 30 second ) then 1 minute rest
( 3 session of stretching 2.5 min each & 1 min rest between each session ) total 10.5 min
jelqing for 10 min
kegel 5 sec and rest for 5 sec for 1 minute
warm water for 6 min
is there any mistake of my routine ?
the result of 1 st month was 0.5 cm flaccid & no gain or loss of erection length
thank you
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It doesn't matter on which direction you go first. It's more required on a balanced approach on all direction. If you go up, you must go down. If you go left, you must go right.
Since you're only using your hands, don't rest 1 minute in between. Only rest 25 to 30 seconds, and then keep going. Rather than 2.5 minutes, since this is only manual, for the new month, increase it to 4 minutes.
There is no mistake. Just lack of time on the routine using only hands. Too much rest requires more time on the routine sets.
This is where you need to increase the time and intensity going into the second month. To get gains, there must be additional stressing time on the tissues. It needs to go up at least 4 minutes, and optimally, it should be 2 minutes per direction exercise at this point because of the long rest time.
2 minutes up
2 minutes down
2 minutes left
2 minutes right
2 minutes rotational crank (pulling the penis around the front like a clock hand in a clockwise direction, then 2 minutes counter clockwise
3 minutes bundling your penis (twisting your penis in one direction) and pull it between or behind your butt cheeks (BTC)
3 minutes bundling your penis (twisting your penis in the other direction) and pull it between or behind your butt cheeks (BTC)
5 minutes going into Between/Behind the Cheeks without bundling
Why such an increase of time? Once your penis is pre-conditioned with lighter and moderate stretches, it's time to increase the exercise load and higher pulling intensities to get the tissue to become more plasticized/stretchable.
Wrap up afterwards.
i will do the 2 min each direction stretching
12 min stretching
10 min jelqing
is there a rest between stretching and jelqing ?
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For manual work, no. No need to break unless you feel a bit sore and need 20 to 30 seconds to do a bit of jelqing to relax the muscles by getting the blood to flow.
Is this your whole workout? I would seriously add in more exercise in time to make the greatest growth You can. If you need help with the routine, please let us know when we will help you with the best routine possible for where you're at right now. I know that adding more work is a pain, but in the end you're gonna be very, very happy with what you have accomplished.
w
i feared that my soft flaccid penis will be cut !!!!!!
i will just grap it forward the next time
becoz rotational crank is so worrisome
btw did that happen before while doing penis exercise stretching or jelqing
this soft flaccid had been cut before ?
or never happen ?!!!
btw i am fine now nothing happened to me
i only become worried from rotational crank
while doing rotational crank i felt my penis getting longer longer !!!!!!!! i become so worry
i feared that my soft flaccid penis will be cut !!!!!!
i will just grap it forward the next time
becoz rotational crank is so worrisome
btw did that happen before while doing penis exercise stretching or jelqing
this soft flaccid had been cut before ?
or never happen ?!!!
btw i am fine now nothing happened to me
i only become worried from rotational crank
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