im also a member at [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis-health[/words].com i actualy signed up there(wish i never had) before i found out about this place.

as you probably know [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis-health[/words].com is a section of mens-network.com

well they are a bunch of crooks. their exercises are the most basic crap out there. its a total waste of money. when you enter the men-network.com forum through the site, you will notice that in there advanced technique section(which by the way isnt covered [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis-health[/words].com for good reason) is littered with your exercises. i posted something and the deleted my post. fuck those guys. they rip everyone else off and when you say anything about it the delete it as soon as its found. the push prosolution pills to the point that a newbie does not believe growth is possible without it. i mentioned in a post that all those pills do are increase blood flow, and that you do not need them. so what did they do. yep: the deleted that post also and banned me from the forum.

is there anything you can do about them stealing your exercises. they actualy list your name.

i fucking hate those bastards. they have all these other random sites which you can find that list the top penis pills - and exercise sites. and guess whos number 1 in all of them: yep that right: prosolution pills and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis-health[/words].com

guess whos not even listed: WWW.MATTERSOFSIZE.COM

and its so obvious that those sites are built by the parent company WWW. MENS-NETWORK.COM

they take advantage of newbies in this industry.

i just noticed that on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis-health[/words].com site that they have some pics of their forum. the show a post that was written by SUPRA and its a pic of his dinaling.

SUE THOSE BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you should log into their forum and see what im talking about!!
 
I have heard of them, they are all one big link farm I think. Im pretty sure Penile Fitness is part of their ring.

Either way they are making a killing of money. I have been to one of their forums and they spam their members with these supplements that supposeably make you bigger. They hype it up to the point where even though members see no gains from their pills they continue to buy them. Since this forum has a type of "SHOP" members are too lazy to go anywhere else and buy from them.

They do take advantage of newbies though that is the problem. With the legit knowledge we know here its too bad we can't reach these newbies with devices and things that actually work.

Id put big money down that I know who runs these sites and that he is a member here as well. Who knows, maybe he has some sort of deal to steal these excercises. I too have seen the supra pic you talk about on their forum. I too have experienced the deletion of my posts when telling the members that these solution pills will do nothing for you.
 
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Thanks for all the good words Slik, Yeah there are a bunch of bad sites out there. And unfortuneatly they can grab what ever they like and change it a very slight bit and call it their own. Thats why we all gather here, because we know the truth!
 
I used to be a moderator over at mens-network.com, and I am also a member of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis-health[/words].com (although that 50 $ would have been better spent at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words]). I certainly have my qualms with the way they run things (the censorship and force fed advertising for example), and even though I also had positive experiences during my stay there, I became disillusioned with their lot at some point and decided to resign my mod status. I haven't really been around ever since then.
 
If my exercises are helping guys get bigger then I am happy. If people steal things they will ultimately have to pay for that.
 
Fuck 'em. Who gives a shit? There are a gazillion Penis Enlargement paysites out there. Most of them totally suck and give you terrible value for what they charge you. I'm sure there are a small number of decent ones too, but I can't imagine ever finding anything that will surpass the support and routines you get here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].

I can only recommend joining [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and leaving it at that. Early in my Penis Enlargement days, I foolishly joined another paysite even after joining [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and it sucked. There claims were totally misleading and they too had nothing beyond the basic exercises.
 
Didn't Supra claim that some site had stolen or used his pic without this permission? Is this it? That would certainly be a case where action could be taken.
 
Nah Supra was a member there too. He told me I should join. I told him I'd rather save my money. :s
 
9cyclops9 said:
Nah Supra was a member there too. He told me I should join. I told him I'd rather save my money. :s

Supra was also a mod at the mens-network forums, but he had a falling in with the administrators, and he got banned eventually (it had something to do with the RoP, which he was initially given permission to sell and promote at the forums, as well as Supra directing people to his 4skin message boards). After extensive persuasion from several of us mods, myself included, Supra was allowed to rejoin WITHOUT his mod status. However, the whole ordeal was pretty nasty on both sides, so he left right at the time when I resigned and left.
Anyway, they DID use Supra's pics AFTER they had kicked him to the curb, and they didn't ask for his permission. So there is a lot of room for improvement with the way they handle things over there.
 
That forum only has like 3 active members anyway, does it even matter?
 
penguinsfan said:
I miss Supra's presence here. He was a good contributor and always very kind to me. Anyone know when he gets back from Afghanistan?

I talk with SUPRA often and he is doing well. I will ask him when his tour is up next time we chat.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
I talk with SUPRA often and he is doing well. I will ask him when his tour is up next time we chat.

Please say "hello" on my behalf and tell him I wish him well. I think about him every now and then, as he is the only person I know in Afghanistan at the moment.
 
slicNICK said:
when you enter the men-network.com forum through the site, you will notice that in there advanced technique section(which by the way isnt covered [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis-health[/words].com for good reason) is littered with your exercises.

Those were actually posted there by mowinman, erstwhile member of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] board, and he claimed he was doing so with DLD's permission.

penguinsfan said:
Didn't Supra claim that some site had stolen or used his pic without this permission? Is this it?

No that wasn't the site. Supra was on there himself, peddling his ROP in nothing else, and posting quite a lot (hard to mistake his "style"). He eventually got banned for "advertising" like Shafty said.
 
ebon00 said:
Those were actually posted there by mowinman, erstwhile member of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] board, and he claimed he was doing so with DLD's permission.

I do not mind any of my exercises being on any free board but I never gave permission for a pay-site to use my exercises. This may need to be looked into.
 
mowinman is one of the ass whole mods over there thats also pushing the sale of pro solution pills and obviously stealing DLD's exercises. the entire mens-network is a crock of shit. mowinman should be banned and i think DLD has a lawsuit on his hands. copies should be taken of the routines so that they cannot be deleted by the mods over there for fear of being sued. a copy would also include dates with the the threaded posts, so that it can be noted for how long of a length this has been going on for.

its funny how those asswholes ban anyone that mentions DLD or his pay site and forum, but the have the balls to not only list his exercises but the do so with reference to his exact name.

take them down DLD!!!!!!
 
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doublelongdaddy said:
I do not mind any of my exercises being on any free board but I never gave permission for a pay-site to use my exercises. This may need to be looked into.

Well, realise that the Mens Health Network boards aren't Penis Enlargement-specific and that you DO NOT need a membership to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Penis Health[/words] in order to access it. It's just a free board same as this one except that it's run by another Penis Enlargement site. The pay site does not contain any of your (DLD's) exercises whatsoever. It does contain the Ferrari Trio which were added with Ferrari's consent. The Advanced Technique section that slicNICK referred to is not part of the pay site, only the free forum, and the majority of the exercise description posts added there are from members of the board (including mowinman). So unless anyone is trying to claim the "rights" to such basic exercises as jelqing and stretching or feel that the free exchange of ideas only applies to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] boards, there is nothing to look into.
 
ebon00 said:
Well, realise that the Mens Health Network boards aren't Penis Enlargement-specific and that you DO NOT need a membership to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Penis Health[/words] in order to access it. It's just a free board same as this one except that it's run by another Penis Enlargement site. The pay site does not contain any of your (DLD's) exercises whatsoever. It does contain the Ferrari Trio which were added with Ferrari's consent. The Advanced Technique section that slicNICK referred to is not part of the pay site, only the free forum, and the majority of the exercise description posts added there are from members of the board (including mowinman). So unless anyone is trying to claim the "rights" to such basic exercises as jelqing and stretching or feel that the free exchange of ideas only applies to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] boards, there is nothing to look into.

Cool, thanks for the update.
 
ebon00 your full of shit. your obviously a mod over there. and on the pay site(penis-health.CON) it references the mens-network forum as its own.


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RULE 6 WAS BROKEN SEVERAL TIMES....


THERE ARE EVEN EXACT COPIES FROM DLD's PAY SITE, NOT TO MENTION COPIED DRAWINGS ALSO.
 
WHAT DO YOU CALL THIS:

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3989

AND

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3514

AND

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3501

AND

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3508

AND

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3507

AND

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3504

AND

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3486

THIS LAST ONE IS FUNNY: MOWINMAN SAYS HES THE DESIGNER OF THE C-STRETCH (HAHAHAHAHHA)

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3512


BOTTOM LINE IS MOWINMAN IS A THEIF!!!!!!!!!

Mowinman is a moderator at the mens-network forum. mens-network owns [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis-health[/words].com. on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis-health[/words].com pay site it says:

Thank you for being a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Penis-Health[/words] member you may login below!
If you paid by credit card your bill will show "Total WebWorks LTD" if you have any questions about this please email our support here: elisha@twwservices.com

Your moments away from the gains you want! For more assistance with this visit our customer forum were other members just like you hang out and ask and answer questions every day. www.mens-network.com/forum/



and when if your a payed member like i unfortunantly am at [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis-health[/words].com you get access to to the pay site obviously. on the top right hand corner theres an option to enter the forum through the pay site.

im not sure if you will be able to see all the links i listed above. you might have to join the crooked site first.

mowinman says he has permission from DLD for all of his exercises to be listed and copied word for word and for his drawings from his pay site to be copied also.

seems like mowinman is breaking his own copywrite rules that i listed in my last post and is stealing!!!!!
 
for some reason you cant click on the links i left for you guys to see.

to see this bullshit just log into the men-network.com/forum and go to the advanced exercises section. there are about 3 pages littered with DLD's exercises. 95% of them posted by Mowinman. all copied word for word with DLD's pay sites color drawings also. im surprised mowinman didnt steal the videos also and say that was his cock.
 
CALIs_FINEST said:
for some reason you cant click on the links i left for you guys to see.

to see this bullshit just log into the men-network.com/forum and go to the advanced exercises section. there are about 3 pages littered with DLD's exercises. 95% of them posted by Mowinman. all copied word for word with DLD's pay sites color drawings also. im surprised mowinman didnt steal the videos also and say that was his cock.

All of the threads were posted with my permission.
 
CALIs_FINEST said:
the copying of your material from your pay site, including the color drawings where giving with your permission?

These were not copied from my pay-site, they were copied from public threads on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] Forums. I do illustrations of every exercise I develop and some are shared on the free forums. I can't share everything or I could not pay the bills but I try to give as much as I can for free. If people are using my exercises and gaining I am happy because that is why I do this.
 
CALIs_FINEST said:
ebon00 your full of shit. your obviously a mod over there.

Dude. Chill out. No need to get all fired up like this. I have a membership to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Penis-Health[/words]. I frequent the Mens-Network boards under this same alias. I have no moderator status on the board. So somebody took your money. Happens every day.

CALIs_FINEST said:
im not sure if you will be able to see all the links i listed above. you might have to join the crooked site first.

No, you don't have to join the site. The Mens-Network board is to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Penis-Health[/words] what these [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] boards are to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]; it's free and although affiliated with he pay site it doesn't require membership. All you need to do is sign up for the forum.
 
Lol... "All of the threads were posted with my permission". Kinda kills your point doesn't it CALIs_FINEST? :)

Although I will agree, I don't like mowinman or the overbearing moderation over there. I was around before he arrived, and I must say I much preferred it then.
 
I think if anyone if Posting DLD's exercises anywhere else but here, the proper thing would be to include a link to our website.
 
LIGHTNING said:
I think if anyone if Posting DLD's exercises anywhere else but here, the proper thing would be to include a link to our website.

I agree. Anyone who posts one of my exercises please include the source link to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].
 
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