Hello! New Joiner, 6 months of PE

[oldandlively]

Hey all, just a recap for the last month of PE. Sadly no further gains, I have just been focusing on lengthmastering and wrapping for elongation. I've been exploring different ways to see how I can push through and achieve new gains using different techniques.
Power assist stretching here and there, downward diagonal bundles (to name a few). There have been some episodes where I feel random aches in the inner penis & ligs, but not as frequently as I would like it to be.

Another size update, it have been feeling slightly less girthy for almost 2 weeks now, and perhaps this is due to me solely focusing on lengthwork rather than girth. Again, I've been holding off of girthwork as it seems to pull away from length (and vice versa).

Got it. Let's formulate a different method of approach while focusing on length, with maintenance on girth, or at least, regain the previous girthy size while concentrating solely on length.

The optimistic part of me is saying that this new update is preparing me for new length growth (this has been evidenced in the past). However I can't tell how soon new gains will occur, or if i will even gain at all.

Commonly, the body will go through a period of adoption phases to prepare itself or the next phases of adaptive growth. So, yes, you're on the point about this. But still, we'll try to trick the brain and body to do speed things up.

Just seeing all these other dudes who have monster dicks after gain fast in length AND girth (without causing losses in other areas) is inspiring but also kinda frustrating to read when compared to my journey.

So yeah tiny rant but once again looking for new strategies to get my penis loose, flexible and achey/sore. Wonder how effective short hanging sets can be if i add this into my routines. I'm guessing this can be accomplished with the Lengthmaster unless there are other methods. Will this also only work if the foreskin is pulled back? Any further suggestions/guidance will be greatly appreciated. Want to start out the new month hard and strong.

Remember brother, your journey is yours alone. Their journey is theirs. Don't compare since everyone is completely different, even though our bodies appear to be the same biological functions. If you have to compare, think about the ladies. Some ladies are humongous on their chest sizes, while some are flat as a board. They ate the same, do the same thing, same size, height, and the same human species. Our DNAs placed limits on us. We just have to find way to break the DNA limits through our own journey by tailoring our approaches.

Any good kegel/reverse kegel workouts that i could consistently stick with btw?

Kegel and reverse kegel is tied to the wrapping or the length master. Don't go further than that. Too much kegels and it causes your pelvic muscles to be too strong, which can trigger bad anomalies.

Sidenote, found a temp fix for skin irritation around the penis. I'm finding that sometimes the placement of my penis could trigger itchy/stingy skin around the top/bottom half of my penis base, so I've started free-balling at home sometimes and it reduces the amount of time needed to readjust to let the skin relax. Penis usually rests upright when I'm wearing underwear.

Irritation is also cause by heat build up during PE journey. Your penis undergoes growth, which cause cells to release heat. Heat causes irritation as the heating limb comes closer contact to the hot zone of the crotch. Heat + heat = skin irritation for the more sensitive skin, which is your penis. This is why the crotch creates so much pubic hair to isolate, separate, and insulate the penis from the body.

Okay, preamble rambling over. Let's get back to your routine. Your routine is a crazy combo of:

• Length Master like usual, with after routine wrapping for elongation
• Power Assist stretches to tackle the lower ligs
• But the routines generate less achiness you're looking for.

Let's come with a different method of approach:

Power Assist:

• If you're going to use both the Length Master and Power Assist in one full routine, use the Power Assist first for the first 5 minutes to pre-stretch the ligaments to prevent turtling later. 3 exercises only of your choice to tackle the ligaments and length.

Length Master:

• You already know the dynamic stretches, especially the BTC. Suggestions:
  • Pull down for 2 minutes, follows by 5 minutes of dynamic bundled BTC, and 1 minute pulling down again. Remember, in 5 minutes of dynamic bundle, make sure to rotate from one side to the other to keep the tissue stretching balanced.
  • Break, and keep the penis warm up with heat for as long as you want
  • Pull up for 1 minute, pull to each side for 1 minute, then 5 minutes of dynamic bundled BTC, then 1 minute down.
  • Break, and keep the penis warm up with heat for as long as you want
  • Straight 5 minutes of bundled dynamic BTC, 1 minute down to straight the tissues, follow by rotary cranks like a clock around the front. A typical rotary crank is 25 per rotation direction (clockwise then counter-clockwise). Make sure to slow down on the rotary crank speed while placing greater intensity.
  • Warm down using heat for as long as you have time, and wrap up.

At this point, you should see a bit more soreness on the base of the penis. Try this for a few weeks, and then switch up different exercises.

If the wrapping is not providing the elongation gain you need after another month, time to switch to an extender to assist. Why? the body is adopting the current routines, and it's waiting for queues to see if you're planning to add more stress to it. This is where a good extender comes into play. Most PE-ers have somekind of extender in the tool box. I have 2 for different purposes. Wish I can use them, but one side of my body is too weak to do PE properly right now.

 

[DLD]

Excellent post Oldandlively!

 

[kk-Finisher-bb]

So I've been contemplating my current length routine. When I use my Lengthmaster, I feel as though I can hit the right angles, go for bundles and manage to feel a pulling sensation in my penis (mostly in ligs/penis base, along with shaft), however it almost feels as if i cant achieve that achey, burning sensation afterwards like i used to.

Wondering if my penis has toughened up to the point where it's fully resisted the Lengthmaster device? Even tried pulling at a harder intensity recently, resulting in temporary aches but not much else that would signal incoming growth.

I've read that exposing the penis to different PE methods could potentially assist with breaking plateau, which drew my attention to a number of hanging posts on this forum.

So yes, I've briefly experimented with hanging, starting out light & slow by using small weight plates, even a steel water bottle at times. I don't have a formal routine, but at first I've been feeling that inner tug in the ligs/penis base while hanging. The sensation reminds me of when I do straight manual pulls.

It's been said that periods of hanging should target the whole penis, and should feel proper fatigue post-workout. However, i will admit that there was a noticeable flaccid hang after trying it out at first, so perhaps this could be a positive reaction?

I get that extenders could also emulate that hanging sensation, so it's easy to toss up between the two. I fear that if I start again with extenders then I'm doing PE using a device that I've already hit a plateau with (since I've used this for a while before).
Tbh my extender has been wearing out so I find that my elongation wrap has been more manageable. Then again, ill try to stay committed to the extender if its a stronger option that the wraps.

That being said, open to any second opinions. Trying not to feel down about not making any gains so just reminding myself that things will get better with experience. These cold winter months have also been a challenge so trying my best to keep warm during PE.

 

[oldandlively]

So I've been contemplating my current length routine. When I use my Lengthmaster, I feel as though I can hit the right angles, go for bundles and manage to feel a pulling sensation in my penis (mostly in ligs/penis base, along with shaft), however it almost feels as if i cant achieve that achey, burning sensation afterwards like i used to.

Wondering if my penis has toughened up to the point where it's fully resisted the Lengthmaster device? Even tried pulling at a harder intensity recently, resulting in temporary aches but not much else that would signal incoming growth.

It may be likely that your penis is adaptive to the new stress loads. This is wher eyou have to find a higher pulling force just to ensure you're getting the right intensity. Your arms and the exercise with the LM3 can far exceed your penis capacity to handle. So, progressively move up. Don't just stick with one or two angles, you can change your angles from the BTC to down, or up, or even out. Find that combination to get that dull achy feeling again. I'm trying to pull the list of exercises together again so the brothers can get a clue on the crazy list of PE exercises to use.

https://mattersofsize.com/link-forums/a-collection-of-excercises-since-2004.1814853/

Most of these are manual stretches, but you can use the LM3 and the PowerAssist ring to further push on the exercises to get that dull feeling.

I've read that exposing the penis to different PE methods could potentially assist with breaking plateau, which drew my attention to a number of hanging posts on this forum.

So yes, I've briefly experimented with hanging, starting out light & slow by using small weight plates, even a steel water bottle at times. I don't have a formal routine, but at first I've been feeling that inner tug in the ligs/penis base while hanging. The sensation reminds me of when I do straight manual pulls.

It's been said that periods of hanging should target the whole penis, and should feel proper fatigue post-workout. However, i will admit that there was a noticeable flaccid hang after trying it out at first, so perhaps this could be a positive reaction?

Not only it's a positive reaction, it's a favoring reaction that the body desires.

I get that extenders could also emulate that hanging sensation, so it's easy to toss up between the two. I fear that if I start again with extenders then I'm doing PE using a device that I've already hit a plateau with (since I've used this for a while before).
Tbh my extender has been wearing out so I find that my elongation wrap has been more manageable. Then again, ill try to stay committed to the extender if its a stronger option that the wraps.

Extender gives you a constant traction tension you're looking for, and the body will not reject that low tension as it mirrors your erectile tension. This is why we encourage not to exceed 1.2kg for long duration of wear time. Wrapping loosely is to get blood in for healing. But if you're wrapping slightly tighter and more rigid, you'll get the similar tension as a the extender. But that may cut off your blood flow supply. You have to monitor the wrap more frequently.

That being said, open to any second opinions. Trying not to feel down about not making any gains so just reminding myself that things will get better with experience. These cold winter months have also been a challenge so trying my best to keep warm during PE.

I know about the cold days and PE. Not a fun combo to have. But give a good pondering to see how you want to tackle it. Use other exercises to get the angles you need, experiment with other exercises to get the pull you desire, play with both extender and wrap to get your low traction pull you want, and then find the optimal path for your routines.

 

[DLD]

I agree

 

[kk-Finisher-bb]

Taking the above advice on board! I just started a new lengthmaster session today after resting yesterday. I've incorporated diagonal downward stretches (straight & bundled) and have noticed some unique, minor sensations during the workout.

More importantly, I've noticed that when I've been pulling I've been experiencing a deep soreness within the penis base/lig area. Trying to determine whether this is a deep ache or just pain (my bet is that it's an ache that we're supposed to feel after doing PE correctly). Again this is something I've noticed during my workout instead of afterwards.

I can't help but feel like this could be due to the recent hanging that I've been trialling for the past week, but I'm just figuring out what this is supposed to mean for my penis' current wellbeing and for my PE routines going forward. Is this supposed to be a positive sign that I've targeted the inner penis which is adapting to new trauma? Or should I be taking it easy next time? Whether that means going light/slow for a while or taking a tiny break from hanging? Is it likely that I would see a lower flaccid hang going forward (as observed in the previous post) or would my penis most likely turtle as if it were experiencing an injury? Put simply, trying to figure out if these signs are good or bad.

 

[oldandlively]

Hanging, depending on how long and how heavy the weight loads are, can desensitize the nerves and causes the body to adopt the achiness faster because of the constant load stresses.

Most of the hanging angles are downwards. Switching to different angles cause different stresses and in turns cause achiness elsewhere.

If you like to hang differently, use a rope to go over certain heights or different support structures that allow you to hang at different angles. All of us did this in the past as part of the lazy man to hanging.

 

[kk-Finisher-bb]

Due for an update here, no significant gains lately but first I think it's best if I keep things transparent with my routine which should hopefully pinpoint any potential roadblocks slowing down gains.

Currently, I'm using a mixture of lengthmastering and hanging (more recently), while using an elongation wrap for majority of the day. I have not used my extender in a long time now due to a few reasons, which I'll explain shortly.

First of all I'm not sure if anyone else here has experienced this before but since the start of the year I've been encountering a weird phenomenon where there is very random shrinkage in length, even while keeping consistent with my PE routines + not taking breaks.

Last Feb, it happened for the first while I was on the toilet, and happened very quick. It took me by surprise and I was quite distraught. Fortunately, the lost length had recovered the morning after while I was doing my morning PE routine (basic manual stretching).

However, I've noticed that it's happened again a number of times before, maybe 1 or 2 times per month, and at the most randomest times of the day. Thankfully, there haven't been any major losses in length to date. But I think this is because I'm always keeping a watch on my penis + always wearing an elongation wrap that I'm able to 'catch myself' from shrinking.

One of these incidents just happened to occur while I was wearing my extender, which in theory wouldn't make any sense since the role of an extender is to pull my penis out (and not shrink back in while I'm wearing it). For this reason, I've become more reluctant to wearing extenders (tbf my current one is starting to wear out also).

This is why I've opted for full day wrapping which does help for the most part (although the pulling force of an extender is meant to be slightly greater). I just don't think I could handle the stress of another one of those episodes again if I were to extend again, or not wear my wrap at all.

Furthermore, I have used my extender for most of last year which only helped with some gains during my overall PE progress. However I'm not sure if any further use of an extender would be redundant/overkill since the penile tissues would've been conditioned + grown tougher to resist any more growth.

That's when I realised that I should be targeting the inner penis more often, which is why I've tested out hanging for the last 1-2 months. My understanding is that there is more of a pulling force with the entire penis (rather than the shaft alone). The first few times i tried hanging (compression), i felt that it targeted the mid area of my shaft (same feeling I would get from an extender using high tension) + pulling/yanking feeling i get in my ligs/penis base. Even though I haven't made any perm gains, all these small signs look promising. Some days I'll get noticeable temp length gains post-workout.

I guess the plan is to make a full-time routine out of it and progressively build up in weight/sets. Heat is also essential during these cold winter months. Hope all this info helps give a clearer picture into my current stage of PE, hope to smash out some gains soon!

 

[oldandlively]

Due for an update here, no significant gains lately but first I think it's best if I keep things transparent with my routine which should hopefully pinpoint any potential roadblocks slowing down gains.

Currently, I'm using a mixture of lengthmastering and hanging (more recently), while using an elongation wrap for majority of the day. I have not used my extender in a long time now due to a few reasons, which I'll explain shortly.

First of all I'm not sure if anyone else here has experienced this before but since the start of the year I've been encountering a weird phenomenon where there is very random shrinkage in length, even while keeping consistent with my PE routines + not taking breaks.

This is known as "accumulated stressor loading". When your body is under too much stresses, the body's instinct is to go into a full shutdown. This means your penis retracts to prevent further stresses from hurting it. It appears as if you lost penis length.

Last Feb, it happened for the first while I was on the toilet, and happened very quick. It took me by surprise and I was quite distraught. Fortunately, the lost length had recovered the morning after while I was doing my morning PE routine (basic manual stretching).

Light stretching simply reminds your penis that the exercise loads do not impact the penile health conditions. When the body recognizes that, the penis relaxes. This is proven over and over in biological sciences, and heavily in sexual sciences. Sexual sciences are real as real can be.

However, I've noticed that it's happened again a number of times before, maybe 1 or 2 times per month, and at the most randomest times of the day. Thankfully, there haven't been any major losses in length to date. But I think this is because I'm always keeping a watch on my penis + always wearing an elongation wrap that I'm able to 'catch myself' from shrinking.

One of these incidents just happened to occur while I was wearing my extender, which in theory wouldn't make any sense since the role of an extender is to pull my penis out (and not shrink back in while I'm wearing it). For this reason, I've become more reluctant to wearing extenders (tbf my current one is starting to wear out also).

This is why I've opted for full day wrapping which does help for the most part (although the pulling force of an extender is meant to be slightly greater). I just don't think I could handle the stress of another one of those episodes again if I were to extend again, or not wear my wrap at all.

Yep. This is why we encouraged full wrapping with heat, or warmth compresses. If you read up on SIM's posts, we discussed this quite heavily, and he tested it out. Surely enough, those who followed the warmth and elongated state during post PE routines and rest days, they are less prone to see sudden shrinkage.

Furthermore, I have used my extender for most of last year which only helped with some gains during my overall PE progress. However I'm not sure if any further use of an extender would be redundant/overkill since the penile tissues would've been conditioned + grown tougher to resist any more growth.

Don't wear the extender by itself at this point. Wear the extender after the Length Master routine for about 4 hours just to keep the post-stretch constant so the cells can repair and occupy the gaps. After that, just wrap.

That's when I realised that I should be targeting the inner penis more often, which is why I've tested out hanging for the last 1-2 months. My understanding is that there is more of a pulling force with the entire penis (rather than the shaft alone). The first few times i tried hanging (compression), i felt that it targeted the mid area of my shaft (same feeling I would get from an extender using high tension) + pulling/yanking feeling i get in my ligs/penis base. Even though I haven't made any perm gains, all these small signs look promising. Some days I'll get noticeable temp length gains post-workout.

Those who have gone through the inner penile pulling understood that it takes a lot of work to pull the full length of the penis. This means pulling at the base of the glans and the pulling near the middle of the shaft. The amount of pull for the hidden portion requires crazy amount of force, but pulling at certain angles smartly and efficiently will help with the entire lengthening processes. Don't just hang or pull by putting in the work. The work must be applied correctly and smartly. Why waste the efforts by pure brute forcing. If you must hang, I suggest you use pulley systems to find different angles of hanging. You'll be surprised what new things you can find in the unique approach.

I guess the plan is to make a full-time routine out of it and progressively build up in weight/sets. Heat is also essential during these cold winter months. Hope all this info helps give a clearer picture into my current stage of PE, hope to smash out some gains soon!

Welcome to your new world of PE, brother. You are merely scratching the surface.

 

[kk-Finisher-bb]

Hey all, looking for some tips & suggestions about doing PE while travelling on holiday. I will be flying overseas in a matter of days and will be staying with family for a few weeks. A lot of time will be spent moving around and spending time with relatives. That being said, I'm hopeful that I'll have a portion of alone time dedicated to PE.

Obviously the major setback would be having limited access to PE Equipment, and therefore I'd have to slightly tweak my routines around what I can and can't use. The last time that I flew to another location, I was able to take in disassembled parts of my Lengthmaster (passed through customs). Alternatively, I could opt for a manual-stretching routine instead, especially if this could be as effective as using equipment. If not, then perhaps I'll take the Lengthmaster like last time.
I also plan on wrapping for elongation for each day, as I've been able to do so on any other normal day. In addition, I'll be packing some ointments including Vitamin E oil & hydrocortisone.
So overall, I could fit in some stretches every few days per week and have some schedule going. Otherwise I'm not sure if a decon would be beneficial during this time. I've heard both sides of this argument about whether decon should be taken advantage of. On one hand, it's been said that taking a break could slow down your PE gains, or worse disappear after no activity, and I'm not sure if I wanna take that risk.
On the other hand, it's been said that taking a break will give the penis time to recover before growing again once you recommence PE, the same way that we take a break from training our muscles at the gym. I'm sure there's something to do with collagen production that's involved in this phase somehow, but can't really figure it out for sure.
Any advice on the above would be appreciated and am curious to hear about any similar experiences.

 

[DLD]

If you can bring your length master with you, then you can do the entire SRT routine. The only part you can't do is the pumping, but you can get all of the manual exercises in. This would be a great way to train and you could split it into length and girth, and do them at two different times if that helps you with your situation. You can also do the newbie routine, which is completely manual and adjustable up, or down, which means you can make it more intense or less intense. Just by adding or retracting exercise. I wish you safe travels, and may God bless you

 

[oldandlively]

Hey all, looking for some tips & suggestions about doing PE while travelling on holiday. I will be flying overseas in a matter of days and will be staying with family for a few weeks. A lot of time will be spent moving around and spending time with relatives. That being said, I'm hopeful that I'll have a portion of alone time dedicated to PE.

Obviously the major setback would be having limited access to PE Equipment, and therefore I'd have to slightly tweak my routines around what I can and can't use. The last time that I flew to another location, I was able to take in disassembled parts of my Lengthmaster (passed through customs). Alternatively, I could opt for a manual-stretching routine instead, especially if this could be as effective as using equipment. If not, then perhaps I'll take the Lengthmaster like last time.
I also plan on wrapping for elongation for each day, as I've been able to do so on any other normal day. In addition, I'll be packing some ointments including Vitamin E oil & hydrocortisone.
So overall, I could fit in some stretches every few days per week and have some schedule going. Otherwise I'm not sure if a decon would be beneficial during this time. I've heard both sides of this argument about whether decon should be taken advantage of. On one hand, it's been said that taking a break could slow down your PE gains, or worse disappear after no activity, and I'm not sure if I wanna take that risk.
On the other hand, it's been said that taking a break will give the penis time to recover before growing again once you recommence PE, the same way that we take a break from training our muscles at the gym. I'm sure there's something to do with collagen production that's involved in this phase somehow, but can't really figure it out for sure.
Any advice on the above would be appreciated and am curious to hear about any similar experiences.

Best approach is to do quick LM3 stretches if you have time, using the PowerAssist routines. If you have the privacy to do the LM3 routines, even better. Cut short on time, PowerAssist will maintain that length level. Then wrap or add the stretcher/extender. Walking around a lot with the either of them on can be a huge pain. Wrap. When you have some time before bed time, stretch under the sheets and wrap.