templnite;678430 said:
Yeah he says for you to do it here, and you're like "nah it hasn't been around long enough to have good reviews" yet you still promote it like its the best thing around. Everywhere you go you have to plug it
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-products-and-reviews/87437-vachanger-any-one-gain-using-lower-weights-5-lbs-and-under-and-longer-times-4.html#post677575
In the first page you say "I only recommend using water with this shit"
This is the [words=http://www.
phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]
phallosan[/words] section not the LG
hanger section learn the difference!
You are an imbecile. In that thread I state that it will take a long time before there are as many reviews as there are with compression style hangers. Learn how to read. I don't state that there are no positive reviews of vacuum hangers. God you literally have to spoon feed you information. You have no critical thinking skills. It is like talking to a young child. The young child who constantly misbehaves and learns to read 5 years later then all of the other children.
Yeah on the first page I only recommend using it with water for
hanging. Look above and I say I use the glans
cap for all night stretching. Learn to read.
And why are you putting quotes around things that are quotes of mine. You say I said something. I didn't "say I only use water with this shit." I'm not a 12 year old. That is how you talk, child. And I say, "nah it hasn't been around long enough to have good reviews." That is how a child speaks...nah, come one who talks like that. This is what I say to SWM. You'll notice it has a lot more detail then your limited vocabulary can give
youknowme123321;677627 said:
I understand what you're saying for sure. But 2 years is not enough. Most men who do PE like any form of exercises don't stay dedicated long enough to produce results which can take a year or more some men. It will be many more years before there is what can be perceived as conclusive evidence for vachangers. Many positive results men report for tools that have been around for much much longer can still be debated.
I am loving vac style hangers so far and they are a great addition to my manual stretches with compression style stretchers. I will see and then share what I get out of this many months down the road but will update and share how it goes throughout that time. Vac hangers are going through skepticism like all PE tools did and still to. We will see if more positive results come in the future. But that future is years away.
Also many men who use most tools don't participate in the forums. So who knows what results the larger population of men who don't communicate in the PE world are seeing across the board of all tools.
I don't talk about reviews at all. I talk about conclusive results and 2 years not being long enough to achieve conclusive results with any PE tools. Go find me some conclusive results for any penis hangers or penis pumps. It doesn't exist. All you'll find is anecdotal information and poor quality pictures. You can find it for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]
You also realize all I have ever said about vacuum
hanging is I like and that I found a way of using them that leads to no blistering for me. I haven't said I can hang super heavy yet. I continuosly say I am looking forward to continuing to work with them and see how it goes.
Do you also realize there isn't any conclusive evidence that
hanging with any style of
hanging increases penis size. THere is only reasearch for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. There isn't and conclusive date for pumps. In the link you posted SWM said, "moderators and admin from PEgym don't cout towards saying vacuum hangers work b/c they have a vested interest." That means by his and your standards both SWM and DLD's opinions on the tools sold here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] don't mean anything b/c they have vested interests in them.
Here is what you should do childish troll. Go to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]
lengthmaster[/words] forum. Watch my videos and read through my threads and posts talking about how great of a tool the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]
LM[/words] is. Then you can come back here and tell me how much of a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]
LM[/words] shill I am. Then go to the PF forum and look through my posts about it. COme back and tell me I'm a PF shill. THen go to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]
bathmate[/words] forums and do the same. Watch and read what I have about the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]. Then come back and call me a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] shill. I help men with all tools. Unlike you who many members have said to ignore you b/c you are just a troll. Sucks to be you.
If it wasn't for you, deadwood (which is you), and SWM I would have never had anything more to say about vacuum hangers then so far I like them and hopefully they keep working for me. And if they do keep working and I am able to get to higher
weights and show it will be great. I am still in the beginning of using these tools. Who know 6 months from now I might say the cut off point is 13 lbs. At this point I don't know. All I know is you are an imbecile.
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. That thread is the worse thing that can happen to your credibility because you go from saying the vacs are the thing which will advance PE to saying they're will need to pass many years for anyone to say if vacs are actually effective good or not, to saying that even you need to see where the vac takes you which in your words is more than one years. I guess that settles it you cant push those products until 1+ years :blush:
I guess so 