Progress thread Come on gains

***PreWork BPFLS 18.2 cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
@oldandlively
I tried the bundles sort of the way you mentioned like a clock and then going a bit more
backing off then like a clock again
Felt like the bundles were deeper
***PostWork BPFLS 18.8 cm

The deeper supporting muscles is probably trying to fight to reset your inner penis back to its original curvature. Think of the base muscle tissues where the ligaments anchored to reacted to the deeper workout. Go light with the pull, perform the higher intensity pull you had done to deep that deeper bundled pulled, and then ease up to a lighter pull just to tell the body, "It's okay. It's only a temporary stressing." The body will respond differently when you "warm up", then forced it to cope, and "warm down".


So I figure I need to get to 19cm to be at 7 inches erect unless I'm not thinking about this correctly

Also is pumping stunting my length gains at all by making the tissues thicker or does this work also in length since I'm feeling stretching on the base ligaments

After extender at the end measured
***18.8cm

18.8cm is due to the new deep pull sensation you had earlier. No worries. Keep the course.

@oldandlively @DLD
When I wear my suction cup extender when I have it on for more than 1 hr
I get what appears to be fluid build up behind the glans
It actually looks like thick deep veins
Is it due to the long wear

The deep veins bulge is fluid retention. It happens even to the best of us when the vacuum pressure is higher than normal after the routines. If you have to wrap up the area where the fluid builds up on top of the sleeve point, do it lightly. If you do have a large amount of fluid buildup, wrap instead of using the vacuum cup to keep things elongated.

How often should I allow blood flow every
15 minutes
20 minutes
The extender is at about 3 to 5 lbs most of the time

When you have slow blood flow because of the restriction wrapping or vacuum cup to around 90%, allow the blood to flow for 30 minutes every hour in. So, it's every 30 minutes break, with 5 minutes relax time, to prevent fluid build up. If your restriction blood flow rate is around 80%, you can allow a 30 minute relaxation every 2 hours. At 70%, it's every 3 hours. At 50%, you can go as long as 6 hours.

If I go higher than this like
7 or 9 lbs then i remove suction every 10 to 15 minutes and will only do
10 or 15 minutes at this tension

If you're hanging/pulling at 7 to 9lbs, allow a break every 10 minutes. Why? Because of the pulling tension you're having, with very high compression load against your glans using the wraps, sleeves, and vacuum cup. When I use the vacuum cup to "hang" or have any high traction load at 6lbs or greater, I take break for 3 minutes for every 10 minutes of high traction tension.
 
The deeper supporting muscles is probably trying to fight to reset your inner penis back to its original curvature. Think of the base muscle tissues where the ligaments anchored to reacted to the deeper workout. Go light with the pull, perform the higher intensity pull you had done to deep that deeper bundled pulled, and then ease up to a lighter pull just to tell the body, "It's okay. It's only a temporary stressing." The body will respond differently when you "warm up", then forced it to cope, and "warm down".




18.8cm is due to the new deep pull sensation you had earlier. No worries. Keep the course.



The deep veins bulge is fluid retention. It happens even to the best of us when the vacuum pressure is higher than normal after the routines. If you have to wrap up the area where the fluid builds up on top of the sleeve point, do it lightly. If you do have a large amount of fluid buildup, wrap instead of using the vacuum cup to keep things elongated.



When you have slow blood flow because of the restriction wrapping or vacuum cup to around 90%, allow the blood to flow for 30 minutes every hour in. So, it's every 30 minutes break, with 5 minutes relax time, to prevent fluid build up. If your restriction blood flow rate is around 80%, you can allow a 30 minute relaxation every 2 hours. At 70%, it's every 3 hours. At 50%, you can go as long as 6 hours.



If you're hanging/pulling at 7 to 9lbs, allow a break every 10 minutes. Why? Because of the pulling tension you're having, with very high compression load against your glans using the wraps, sleeves, and vacuum cup. When I use the vacuum cup to "hang" or have any high traction load at 6lbs or greater, I take break for 3 minutes for every 10 minutes of high traction tension.
Just to keep things safe then on lighter tensions 3 to 5 lbs for 30 minutes
then allow blood flow for 5 minutes

High tension 7 to 9 lbs 10 minutes then blood flow for 3 to 5 minutes

As far as the workload continue tension but with lighter pull for the bundles

What do you think about a length routine with pumping for 10 minutes or so then doing erect stretches another 10 minutes?
Maybe times 2 rounds

I would like to change my routine a bit or do you think i should continue with my current routine until i break 19cm BPFSL

Thank you!
 
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@oldandlively @DLD

If one pumps and tissues expand for blood capacity and you do this for a month or two
Then follow it up with length work will this lead to length growth by faster mitosis

Haven't posted because i haven't been doing as much length work
Been doing kind of a decon but doing pumping 10 to 20 minutes a day or every other day

What do you think on the pump work then going to length again?
 
@oldandlively @DLD

If one pumps and tissues expand for blood capacity and you do this for a month or two
Then follow it up with length work will this lead to length growth by faster mitosis

Cellular mitosis is not just about increasing blood flow. It's about maintaining a high level of blood volume exchange at a constant, or nearly constant, rate. Think about why a person who loves to masturbate has a larger penis than the one who doesn't. Constant blood flow, high levels of sexual hormones, and hopefully, a good bioavailable amount of resources for the cells to use as the blood acts like a delivery superhighway.

Haven't posted because i haven't been doing as much length work
Been doing kind of a decon but doing pumping 10 to 20 minutes a day or every other day

What do you think on the pump work then going to length again?

Girth work is perfectly fine. Just stay at low and moderate pumping to get the negative pressure to influence your blood flow, and use various jelqs to push positive pressure blood flow through your penis. It's girth routine. Get the penis supercharged with the blood flow.
 
Cellular mitosis is not just about increasing blood flow. It's about maintaining a high level of blood volume exchange at a constant, or nearly constant, rate. Think about why a person who loves to masturbate has a larger penis than the one who doesn't. Constant blood flow, high levels of sexual hormones, and hopefully, a good bioavailable amount of resources for the cells to use as the blood acts like a delivery superhighway.



Girth work is perfectly fine. Just stay at low and moderate pumping to get the negative pressure to influence your blood flow, and use various jelqs to push positive pressure blood flow through your penis. It's girth routine. Get the penis supercharged with the blood flow.

So 5hg or less on thr pressure?

Is it ok to have higher fluctuations or better to stay at 5 or less for 15 minutes or less

Are there any supplements you recommend for male virility

I don't want a super stimulant, just need something a bit gentler that will still work

If its just a multivitamin that is fine to
 
Cellular mitosis is not just about increasing blood flow. It's about maintaining a high level of blood volume exchange at a constant, or nearly constant, rate. Think about why a person who loves to masturbate has a larger penis than the one who doesn't. Constant blood flow, high levels of sexual hormones, and hopefully, a good bioavailable amount of resources for the cells to use as the blood acts like a delivery superhighway.



Girth work is perfectly fine. Just stay at low and moderate pumping to get the negative pressure to influence your blood flow, and use various jelqs to push positive pressure blood flow through your penis. It's girth routine. Get the penis supercharged with the blood flow.
Could not have said it better myself.Great work my brother
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Ok will try to go the rest of July and August with consistent workouts
Mon thru Thurs when I miss maybe a makeup on Saturday

Been on a break for about
6 weeks or so
Doing a bit of pumping but this mainly for blood flow

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 72 hrs 35 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 93 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.2 cm
Heat from shower 5 min

Manual bundles and stretching
8 min x 30 to 60 sec
5 min x 30 sec down R and L
5 min x 60 sec wrist fulcrum strerches @DLD used to do but I don't remember what they are called

Post manual strerches
BPFLS 18.5 cm

Extender w/ Heating pad off & on
40 min straight 4 to 5 lbs
2 min release of vacuum for blood flow then reapplied
10 min 4 lbs with mos red light
10 min 4 lbs no heat

After extender at the end measured
***18.7cm
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 72 hrs 35 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 94 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.2 cm
Heat from shower 5 min

Manual bundles and stretching
5 min x 30 to 60 sec bundles
20 min x 60 sec fulcrum down stretches alt 1 min down manual stretched

Post manual strerches
BPFLS 18.5 cm

Extender w/ Heating pad off & on
30 min straight 4 to 5 lbs

After extender at the end measured
***???cm
 
Hm. Even with 6 weeks of break, I think you can use the bundled exercise to your advantage to regain the traction. I see there's a retraction of 0.2cm, but that's OK. It can easily be recovered. Your 18.5cm is considered as permanent, where your potential of 18.7cm and more are in a transitional period. If you can bundle to the max, with a dynamic pulling traction force of around 2.2kg to 4.5kg, you'll get that flaccid post-routine length back pretty fast.
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 73 hrs 00 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 95 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.2 cm
Heat from shower 5 min

LM bundles 6 min x 60 sec
10 min x 60 sec fulcrum down
Wrist fulcrum, not sure what the exercise is called

Post manual strerches
BPFLS 18.5 cm

Extender w/ Heating pad off & on
35 min straight 5 - 6 lbs
measured during 3 min break and
@oldandlively you were right with bundles and heat...
with hard stretch measurement got to 18.9cm BPFSL

30 min extender w/ heat off and on

10 min extender w/ MOS red

After extender at the end measured
Pending
***18.8 cm
 
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Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 73 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 96 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.2 cm
Heat from shower 5 min

LM bundles 6 min x 30-60 sec
10 min x 60 sec fulcrum down or down stretches alternating
Wrist fulcrum, not sure what the exercise is called

Post manual strerches
BPFLS 18.5 cm

Extender w/ Heating pad off & on
30 min straight 5 - 6 lbs

After extender at the end measured
***18.7 cm

Rubbed hydrocortizone cream on
 
Excellent workout, my brother, keep this up and keep an eye on intensity. Also, keep your eye on your routine to see when and if you should add intensity or new exercise
 
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