I appreciate the continued feedback from you and DLD
I feel like the newbie stretches are helping relax the tissues before the LM work, thank you!
I feel like the newbie stretches are helping relax the tissues before the LM work, thank you!
The newbie stretches are incredible. They were the backbone of the original matters of size exercises. Those stretches brought me from 6.5 to 8.5
Looking forward to your documentation of your workout and your growth. This is the best way to keep yourself in the game while we help you stay consistent.
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches
Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 69 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min
Session 88 of ?
***PreWork BPFLS 18.6 cm
Newbie type warm up stretches down and straight out
20 min x 30 sec
***PostWork BPFLS 18.8 cm
Extender
60 min straight 4 lbs
After extender
*** 18.9 to 19 cm
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches
Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 69 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min
Session 88 of ?
***PreWork BPFLS 18.6 cm
Newbie type warm up stretches down and straight out
20 min x 30 sec
***PostWork BPFLS 18.8 cm
Extender
60 min straight 4 lbs
After extender
*** 18.9 to 19 cm
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches
Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 69 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min
Session 89 of ?
***PreWork BPFLS 18.6 cm
5 min heat pad
Not sure what its called but the Dld stretches with the wrist hold
10 min x 30 sec
Good stretches
***PostWork BPFLS 18.8 cm
Extender
18.8 min straight 4 lbs
After extender
***18.8
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches
Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 69 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min
Session 89 of ?
***PreWork BPFLS 18.6 cm
5 min heat pad
Not sure what its called but the Dld stretches with the wrist hold
10 min x 30 sec
Good stretches
***PostWork BPFLS 18.8 cm
Extender
18.8 min straight 4 lbs
After extender
***18.8
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What kind of extender you use?
What kind of extender you use?
Hi @oldboy77
I have an Epic Extender that I use during active training meaning right after use of manual stretches and Length Master use
So manual stretching or LM about 20 minutes then 1 hour or so of Epic stretcher use
I also use a hybrid stretcher which is like the
Stealth stretcher
I call it a hybrid because it was an x4 noose stretcher which I do not recommend using at all
But i was able to find some parts to make it similar to the stealth stretcher online
I use this also after LM work
Hope this helps
The big thing will be active stretching then wearing of the extender
I think it speeds up the process rather than just wearing an extender alone
But best to start slow with it
Don't be overzelous that could lead to injury
Ease into it
Start with manual stretches and wearing extender maybe 20 minutes then go from there
But don't use anything with a noose at least from my experience not good
I have an Epic Extender that I use during active training meaning right after use of manual stretches and Length Master use
So manual stretching or LM about 20 minutes then 1 hour or so of Epic stretcher use
I also use a hybrid stretcher which is like the
Stealth stretcher
I call it a hybrid because it was an x4 noose stretcher which I do not recommend using at all
But i was able to find some parts to make it similar to the stealth stretcher online
I use this also after LM work
Hope this helps
The big thing will be active stretching then wearing of the extender
I think it speeds up the process rather than just wearing an extender alone
But best to start slow with it
Don't be overzelous that could lead to injury
Ease into it
Start with manual stretches and wearing extender maybe 20 minutes then go from there
But don't use anything with a noose at least from my experience not good
The first step in the solid 19cm. Very nice. Let's see if it stabilized at the 19cm for these two weeks before we do a bit of tweaking.
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches
Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 70 hrs 0 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min
Session 90 of ?
***PreWork BPFLS 18.6 cm
Not sure what they are called but the Dld stretches with the wrist hold
10 min x 30 sec
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
***PostWork BPFLS 18.7 cm
Extender
Heating pad
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
10 min staight 4 lbs
After extender
***18.8cm
Should I be bundling more than what I am
I feel like the routine I have done is still working
Slowly but still effective
I think my post workout wearing of extender needs to be more consistent
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches
Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 70 hrs 0 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min
Session 90 of ?
***PreWork BPFLS 18.6 cm
Not sure what they are called but the Dld stretches with the wrist hold
10 min x 30 sec
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
***PostWork BPFLS 18.7 cm
Extender
Heating pad
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
10 min staight 4 lbs
After extender
***18.8cm
Should I be bundling more than what I am
I feel like the routine I have done is still working
Slowly but still effective
I think my post workout wearing of extender needs to be more consistent
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Try full bundling to the point you can't any more, but equally for both directions. If you can do 720 degrees for one side but only 700 for the other, stick at 540 degrees for both until you can achieve 720 for both for pulling. But for performing rotator like a clock hand, use 700.
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches
Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 70 hrs 0 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min
Session 91 of ?
***PreWork BPFLS 18.4 cm
Manual stretches
10 min x 30 sec
LM 5 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 3 min x 30 dld rolls
Felt a bit of pain on the top of shaft with the rolls but had less padding with ace wrap than I normally do when I do these so that's probably why
***PostWork BPFLS 18.6 cm
Extender w/ Heating pad
30 min staight 4 lbs
After extender
***18.9cm
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches
Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 70 hrs 0 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min
Session 91 of ?
***PreWork BPFLS 18.4 cm
Manual stretches
10 min x 30 sec
LM 5 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 3 min x 30 dld rolls
Felt a bit of pain on the top of shaft with the rolls but had less padding with ace wrap than I normally do when I do these so that's probably why
***PostWork BPFLS 18.6 cm
Extender w/ Heating pad
30 min staight 4 lbs
After extender
***18.9cm
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Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches
Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 71 hrs 35 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min
Session 92 of ?
***PreWork BPFLS 18.2 cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
@oldandlively
I tried the bundles sort of the way you mentioned like a clock and then going a bit more
backing off then like a clock again
Felt like the bundles were deeper
***PostWork BPFLS 18.8 cm
Extender w/ Heating pad
10 min straight 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
15 min straight 7 lbs
40 min straight 4 lbs
Measured post extender and got
18.7cm
Another
20 min straight 4lbs with heat
Just been feeling really tight tissues lately
So not sure if it's because I backed off a bit from my workouts or if the tissues are cementing to new measurement
I know I've had some growth from where I started
Aug 2026 I was at
17.3 cm BPFSL
Now most days if I check BPFLS
I make it past 18cm like 18.2cm or more.
I have been pumping some days with a 1.75 cylinder and about 5hg to 7hg and get 6.5cm erect maybe a bit more
So I figure I need to get to 19cm to be at 7 inches erect unless I'm not thinking about this correctly
Also is pumping stunting my length gains at all by making the tissues thicker or does this work also in length since I'm feeling stretching on the base ligaments
After extender at the end measured
***18.8cm
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches
Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 71 hrs 35 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min
Session 92 of ?
***PreWork BPFLS 18.2 cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
@oldandlively
I tried the bundles sort of the way you mentioned like a clock and then going a bit more
backing off then like a clock again
Felt like the bundles were deeper
***PostWork BPFLS 18.8 cm
Extender w/ Heating pad
10 min straight 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
15 min straight 7 lbs
40 min straight 4 lbs
Measured post extender and got
18.7cm
Another
20 min straight 4lbs with heat
Just been feeling really tight tissues lately
So not sure if it's because I backed off a bit from my workouts or if the tissues are cementing to new measurement
I know I've had some growth from where I started
Aug 2026 I was at
17.3 cm BPFSL
Now most days if I check BPFLS
I make it past 18cm like 18.2cm or more.
I have been pumping some days with a 1.75 cylinder and about 5hg to 7hg and get 6.5cm erect maybe a bit more
So I figure I need to get to 19cm to be at 7 inches erect unless I'm not thinking about this correctly
Also is pumping stunting my length gains at all by making the tissues thicker or does this work also in length since I'm feeling stretching on the base ligaments
After extender at the end measured
***18.8cm
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@oldandlively @DLD
When I wear my suction cup extender when I have it on for more than 1 hr
I get what appears to be fluid build up behind the glans
It actually looks like thick deep veins
Is it due to the long wear
How often should I allow blood flow every
15 minutes
20 minutes
The extender is at about 3 to 5 lbs most of the time
If I go higher than this like
7 or 9 lbs then i remove suction every 10 to 15 minutes and will only do
10 or 15 minutes at this tension
When I wear my suction cup extender when I have it on for more than 1 hr
I get what appears to be fluid build up behind the glans
It actually looks like thick deep veins
Is it due to the long wear
How often should I allow blood flow every
15 minutes
20 minutes
The extender is at about 3 to 5 lbs most of the time
If I go higher than this like
7 or 9 lbs then i remove suction every 10 to 15 minutes and will only do
10 or 15 minutes at this tension