Brawn Johnson's Routine and Progress

TROUBLESHOOTING UPDATE:

Today I tried pulling the disc back halfway into the bell before inserting my penis, and that seems to have entirely fixed the problem I found yesterday. Maybe that allowed my glans to fill the bell better or something?? I'm not sure, but today I was able to apply a decent amount of tension without the penis coming out at all AND I didn't have to use ACE wrap around it.

Excelsior!
 
Update and Today's Results:

HOLY YIKES, GUYS. A lot to report today... So now that I've got the SiliStretcher working properly and forming a good seal, I used my luggage scale to estimate the tension I applied at ~5lbs. (I wrapped the end of the SiliStretcher around the luggage scale hook and pulled on the scale until it hit 5lbs, then attached the SS to my belt at that position, as pictured below).

It turns out this ADS/low-intensity/long-time stretching game is a COMPLETELY different beast from the short, intense manual sessions I've been doing. I figured 5 lbs was nothing at all since I use 20lb for manual stretches, but 1 hour into this my dick was on FIRE. Felt like it was going to get ripped off! I've never felt this sensation during stretching before. I originally planned to go 2.5 hours but I had to back off and stop at 2 hours, and maybe I should have stopped even earlier. I'm not sure what to make of this sensation... it was VERY uncomfortable but I don't know if it's a good or a bad pain.

When I took the SiliStretcher off, 1) my skin underneath the SiliSleeve/cap was red and raw, 2) there was a black bruise on my shaft, and 3) my glans was slightly elongated and deformed. I applied some moisturizer, hit everything with a hair dryer for about 10min as a warm-down, and massaged the bruise.

Plan Moving Forward:

I'm going to adjust my plans a little bit, and I'm not sure if I should reduce tension, time, or both. Right now I'm thinking of keeping ~5lb tension, and only adding a half hour each week instead of every day. (No WAY I'll be able to stick with that schedule!)

Finally, I forgot that I'm supposed to do a pre-exhaust before applying the ADS, so after I do my daily Squeezes I'll be adding in 10 tension stretches just before applying the SiliStretcher.

Questions:

Should I be feeling a burning sensation on this or does that indeed mean I've gone too far?

If it's too much, should I be immediately dialing back the tension or the time?

What's a good time/tension to start with, and what's a good schedule to use for increasing both?



I'm feeling the power of this new device, now to make sure I use that power to grow rather than destroy my dick! :)

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On your questions there are two new routines in the SRT thread which are based on progressive hanging. There’s two different ones one shorter than the other, take a look at them and let me know what you think or if you have any questions.
 
On your questions there are two new routines in the SRT thread which are based on progressive hanging. There’s two different ones one shorter than the other, take a look at them and let me know what you think or if you have any questions.
Are you referring to the reverse and triangle pyramid ideas?
 
EQ was down just a touch on my morning wood this AM, so I think yesterday's pain was indeed a bit too much. Today I'm just going to do EQ work and take a rest day.

Tomorrow and Friday I'll try for 3 hrs at just 2lbs and see how that goes. If it's looking good, I'll start with a progression based on Big Al's recommendations on Monday.

Yesterday was a hiccup, but I'm pretty damn excited about this new phase. This is the first time since I first began that I've really felt a stretch at all in my shaft! Let's make some GAINS!!

Thanks to everyone reading this!
 
EQ was down just a touch on my morning wood this AM, so I think yesterday's pain was indeed a bit too much. Today I'm just going to do EQ work and take a rest day.

Tomorrow and Friday I'll try for 3 hrs at just 2lbs and see how that goes. If it's looking good, I'll start with a progression based on Big Al's recommendations on Monday.

Yesterday was a hiccup, but I'm pretty damn excited about this new phase. This is the first time since I first began that I've really felt a stretch at all in my shaft! Let's make some GAINS!!

Thanks to everyone reading this!

Make dem gains! I'll be stalking...er...watching!
 
I'm on the phone and don't have the precise links, however, if you check the size genetic section, I wrote a thread that is active, describing a routine.

That routine has times for those starting.
Use those times with SS.

Mos should really have these more clear for customers on the shop side, so they have an accurate knowledge of times when starting.
 
I'm on the phone and don't have the precise links, however, if you check the size genetic section, I wrote a thread that is active, describing a routine.

That routine has times for those starting.
Use those times with SS.

Mos should really have these more clear for customers on the shop side, so they have an accurate knowledge of times when starting.

@Lightning
 
I'm on the phone and don't have the precise links, however, if you check the size genetic section, I wrote a thread that is active, describing a routine.

That routine has times for those starting.
Use those times with SS.

Mos should really have these more clear for customers on the shop side, so they have an accurate knowledge of times when starting.
Found it, thanks Red!

@Brawn Johnson do you have the new transparent DuroSleevs? I see you are using the older SIliSleevs in the picture above.
Hey Lightning, I recently realized you guys were sending complimentary SS2.0 upgrades to owners of the original, and placed my order. (THANK YOU!) So I'll have the durosleeves in my clammy mitts soon. :)

Even without those, though, I've got the SS working pretty well now. I overlooked your advice to pull the disc halfway back into the bell before applying it, and that made a big difference.
 
My three hours in the SS went just fine yesterday, using around 2 lbs of force. I felt a slight stretch, but I wasn't squirming in my seat watching the clock and telling my dick to "just hang in there, buddy, only 1 more hour to go!" I could go for a bit more stretch sensation, actually, but I'm going to be patient and build things up right. ?
 
Found it, thanks Red!


Hey Lightning, I recently realized you guys were sending complimentary SS2.0 upgrades to owners of the original, and placed my order. (THANK YOU!) So I'll have the durosleeves in my clammy mitts soon. :)

Even without those, though, I've got the SS working pretty well now. I overlooked your advice to pull the disc halfway back into the bell before applying it, and that made a big difference.

Cool! The new SiliStretcher2 piston is preset at the 50% mark and the new model is stealthier and beefier than the previous version.

The new SiliPad2 is a big improvement over the previous silipad as well and has been helping many preventing fluid retention.

The DuroSleevs with take your stretching to the next level.
 
Just checking in to say that the SiliStretcher 2.0 arrived and it's significantly more powerful than the 1.0. I don't know how or why, maybe it's the Silipad? But however it happened, this thing has one hell of a grip. I haven't even bothered with the durosleeves, this thing isn't going anywhere. :)

I'm getting antsy at 2lb, not really feeling a stretch sensation anymore at all. The SiliScale should arrive soon, (THANK YOU, MoS!), and then I'll be able to confirm whether or not the belt is slipping and losing tension over the hours. Right now with my scale I can only measure before I attach the bell to the belt... We'll shed more light on this soon enough!

If I'm not slipping, I might try 3 or 4 lbs ahead of schedule and see if I can't find a sweet spot.
 
Just checking in to say that the SiliStretcher 2.0 arrived and it's significantly more powerful than the 1.0. I don't know how or why, maybe it's the Silipad? But however it happened, this thing has one hell of a grip. I haven't even bothered with the durosleeves, this thing isn't going anywhere. :)

I'm getting antsy at 2lb, not really feeling a stretch sensation anymore at all. The SiliScale should arrive soon, (THANK YOU, MoS!), and then I'll be able to confirm whether or not the belt is slipping and losing tension over the hours. Right now with my scale I can only measure before I attach the bell to the belt... We'll shed more light on this soon enough!

If I'm not slipping, I might try 3 or 4 lbs ahead of schedule and see if I can't find a sweet spot.

You are so welcome and thank you for the review, I’m so happy that you’re happy.
 
Quick Update: I bumped the starting tension up to 3lbs today and felt a perfectly manageable stretch sensation. I'll keep it there until my next scheduled tension increase.

Also, the SiliScale arrived! Starting tomorrow I'll measure tension with that instead of my luggage scale, so I'll have more accurate data and I'll be able to check on the tension over the entire time I'm stretching. Better and better!
 
Quick Update: I bumped the starting tension up to 3lbs today and felt a perfectly manageable stretch sensation. I'll keep it there until my next scheduled tension increase.

Also, the SiliScale arrived! Starting tomorrow I'll measure tension with that instead of my luggage scale, so I'll have more accurate data and I'll be able to check on the tension over the entire time I'm stretching. Better and better!

So happy the scale came in and I can’t wait to hear your review on it.
 
So happy the scale came in and I can’t wait to hear your review on it.
Here you are, sir!

The SiliScale is *perfect* for the SiliStretcher, and it's taken all of the guesswork out of my ADS training! With just a minute or so of playing around with it, I've figured out how to measure in kilograms or pounds of tension and exactly how to use it. It's pretty simple:

1) Attach the scale between the SS bell and the velcro attachment strap
2) Turn on the scale and wait for it to stop flashing.
3) Attach the velcro strap to the belt wherever, and wait for the scale to stop on a number.
4) Re-attach if needed and hit the power button again to get a new reading.

Before, I was using a luggage scale to estimate tension when I applied the ADS. The luggage scale worked well when I was doing 15-20lbs of tension for Lengthmaster stretches, but it's not nearly accurate enough at the lower range of tension used for ADS, or given the fact that I had to first pull on the scale and then get rid of it before attaching the velcro and rely on the "feel" of the stretch. (Also very hard to do when you're working with just a few pounds!)

Absolute gamechanger. Five stars!
 
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Okay, important question about the scale...

After a couple hours I turned the scale on again to check if the tension had stayed the same. After a 10 count or so the scale started to take a new measurement... and had me under 1lb of tension. I didn't think it likely that I had lost that much tension, so I re-attached at 2.96 lb, turned the scale off, and measured again right away. Again the scale measured a fraction of a pound.

So it looks like the scale automatically tares whatever tension is being applied to it when it turns on. That is, if it's under 3 lbs of tension when I turn it on, it actually reads "0.0" until I take a step and my hip bone presses on it and lengthens the chain. Then it reads "0.14" or whatever because that's how much tension my hip bone added. Is that right?
 
Here you are, sir!

The SiliScale is *perfect* for the SiliStretcher, and it's taken all of the guesswork out of my ADS training! With just a minute or so of playing around with it, I've figured out how to measure in kilograms or pounds of tension and exactly how to use it. It's pretty simple:

1) Attach the scale between the SS bell and the velcro attachment strap
2) Turn on the scale and wait for it to stop flashing.
3) Attach the velcro strap to the belt wherever, and wait for the scale to stop on a number.
4) Re-attach if needed and hit the power button again to get a new reading.

Before, I was using a luggage scale to estimate tension when I applied the ADS. The luggage scale worked well when I was doing 15-20lbs of tension for Lengthmaster stretches, but it's not nearly accurate enough at the lower range of tension used for ADS, or given the fact that I had to first pull on the scale and then get rid of it before attaching the velcro and rely on the "feel" of the stretch. (Also very hard to do when you're working with just a few pounds!)

Absolute gamechanger. Five stars!

Thank you for such a great review our greatly appreciate it and I’m sure it’s going to help other men make decisions on where they want to go. As far as the scale tare, that does make sense but in that scenario what would be the smartest way to check weight?
 
Thank you for such a great review our greatly appreciate it and I’m sure it’s going to help other men make decisions on where they want to go. As far as the scale tare, that does make sense but in that scenario what would be the smartest way to check weight?
Glad you asked, DLD. :) Here's what I'm thinking so far.

I've confirmed that the scale tares automatically, because when I turned it on and then undid the velcro and released all the tension at the end of my time yesterday the scale read negative 3+lbs... which meant that I had been applying 3+lbs of tension while the velcro was still attached...

...and that is how you use the scale to check tension during the session:

1) Turn the scale on, wait for it to accept the weight unit selection and start measuring.
2) Undo the velcro, release all the tension, and let the scale measure.
3) If the scale reads 'negative (whatever tension you want to be applying)' then you know that you haven't lost tension.
4) Pull the velcro around until the scale reads "0.00" again and re-attach.

Now this will interrupt your session for just a few seconds, BUT...

1) That's a TINY interruption... way less than a bathroom break. (In fact you could just wait to check when you need to take a bathroom break anyway).
2) You can stop the clock while you check.
3) It's worth a small interruption to make sure you aren't having tension loss issues.
4) Once you've established that tension loss isn't a problem, you can switch to only checking at the end of the workout when you're taking the stretcher off anyway. That way you can keep your eye on the issue for your whole PE career without having to interrupt sessions.

EDIT: Unless someone comes up with a better idea for using the scale, is there a place in the forum where I should copy-paste these instructions outside of my own personal progress thread?
 
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Glad you asked, DLD. :) Here's what I'm thinking so far.

I've confirmed that the scale tares automatically, because when I turned it on and then undid the velcro and released all the tension at the end of my time yesterday the scale read negative 3+lbs... which meant that I had been applying 3+lbs of tension while the velcro was still attached...

...and that is how you use the scale to check tension during the session:

1) Turn the scale on, wait for it to accept the weight unit selection and start measuring.
2) Undo the velcro, release all the tension, and let the scale measure.
3) If the scale reads 'negative (whatever tension you want to be applying)' then you know that you haven't lost tension.
4) Pull the velcro around until the scale reads "0.00" again and re-attach.

Now this will interrupt your session for just a few seconds, BUT...

1) That's a TINY interruption... way less than a bathroom break. (In fact you could just wait to check when you need to take a bathroom break anyway).
2) You can stop the clock while you check.
3) It's worth a small interruption to make sure you aren't having tension loss issues.
4) Once you've established that tension loss isn't a problem, you can switch to only checking at the end of the workout when you're taking the stretcher off anyway. That way you can keep your eye on the issue for your whole PE career without having to interrupt sessions.

EDIT: Unless someone comes up with a better idea for using the scale, is there a place in the forum where I should copy-paste these instructions outside of my own personal progress thread?

Very good idea and I’m gonna run this by @Lightning too!
 
Glad you asked, DLD. :) Here's what I'm thinking so far.

I've confirmed that the scale tares automatically, because when I turned it on and then undid the velcro and released all the tension at the end of my time yesterday the scale read negative 3+lbs... which meant that I had been applying 3+lbs of tension while the velcro was still attached...

...and that is how you use the scale to check tension during the session:

1) Turn the scale on, wait for it to accept the weight unit selection and start measuring.
2) Undo the velcro, release all the tension, and let the scale measure.
3) If the scale reads 'negative (whatever tension you want to be applying)' then you know that you haven't lost tension.
4) Pull the velcro around until the scale reads "0.00" again and re-attach.

Now this will interrupt your session for just a few seconds, BUT...

1) That's a TINY interruption... way less than a bathroom break. (In fact you could just wait to check when you need to take a bathroom break anyway).
2) You can stop the clock while you check.
3) It's worth a small interruption to make sure you aren't having tension loss issues.
4) Once you've established that tension loss isn't a problem, you can switch to only checking at the end of the workout when you're taking the stretcher off anyway. That way you can keep your eye on the issue for your whole PE career without having to interrupt sessions.

EDIT: Unless someone comes up with a better idea for using the scale, is there a place in the forum where I should copy-paste these instructions outside of my own personal progress thread?

Please add to the SiliScale instructions
 
That lower abdominal issue may be the start of a hernia so keep an eye on it.
Yeah I totally have a hernia. ? I heard it at MoS first!

On Friday I was in and out of the doctor's office/hospital getting this officially checked out, so no opportunity to wear the SiliStretcher. I swapped in a quick manual routine instead to tide me over that day. I'll be talking with a surgeon soon to get it repaired and see what the rest period will be like while I recover from that. Do we have any experience here with PE and hernia surgery? Seems like something I might approach with unusual caution.

Back to the SiliStretcher today, upping the tension and dropping the time a bit. I'll keep working to see how much more consistent I can keep the tension without me having to adjust it!
 
Just talked with the doc today, lining up for a corrective surgery in early November. The doctor estimates a 6 week recovery period, with no lifestyle restrictions after that, so I'm planning to keep PE up hopefully right up to the surgery, and then take a 6 week break from any stretching/pumping (maybe could still do kegels/EQ work) while I heal. Should be good to go after that!
 
Just talked with the doc today, lining up for a corrective surgery in early November. The doctor estimates a 6 week recovery period, with no lifestyle restrictions after that, so I'm planning to keep PE up hopefully right up to the surgery, and then take a 6 week break from any stretching/pumping (maybe could still do kegels/EQ work) while I heal. Should be good to go after that!

Six weeks is not that long and you can practice strengthening your pelvic floor muscles through this month and a half process. And remember that anything you do lose as far as gains are concerned will come back immediately when you restart
 
New measurements today! EQ was down a little bit, so erect measurements might actually be a little understated. Even so, not bad considering that I only really felt like I was figuring out this SiliStretcher thing and feeling the stretch consistently in the last part of the last four weeks. Onward and upward!

Flaccid Girth: 4 3/4"
BPFL: 5 1/8" (this after several failed pics of BPFL and BPSFL, so I'd been stretching already before this picture)
BPSFL: 8 1/8"
Erect Girth: 5 3/8"
BPEL: 7 1/2"**

You can see these measurements in the context of my entire history here.

**updated 1 week later on 9/1/2019 with better EQ
 
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Just checking in to point out that I took a new BPEL measure yesterday with better EQ and I did indeed find an extra 1/8" rattling around in there. So even with the learning curve, the SiliStretcher has kept me chugging along so far at my peak growth rate of 1/4" per month. Measurement posts updated accordingly.

Today I'm upping the tension to 5lb!
 
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I prepared a new document today to give myself a better idea of my progress over the course of my PE career. It isn't meant to replace this thread, or even the 'measurement history' post on the first page. It supplements them, giving me a VERY clear look at the bare numbers so I can take in at a glance how things have been going. This really makes the data I have a lot more usable, and I can see trends and relationships more easily. It made me appreciate a lot more what it cost me to experiment the way I did rather than sticking with what was working. :)

It's a simple spreadsheet, and I've attached a screenshot here so anyone can copy the template if they like. It's a very useful thing to have, and it works alongside the notes I take in this thread, as well as my training log. I can use the other things to look into any period of my training in more detail, and see what I was doing that led to good gains, stalls, or backslides. Happy training!

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I remember @cladre60 has had hernia surgery and did continue with some PE. Hopefully all goes well with your surgery, best of times recovering to you!

Prior to hernia surgery I'd pull fairly hard on the Bathmate during my sessions. I waited 3 months or so after hernia surgery to attempt any PE and when I did I tried to pull on the BM like I had before. I got a pretty sharp pain from it. I put PE aside for a few more months after that. I have not pulled hard on my BM in any sessions since. I've done some gentle pulls but they amount to almost nothing.

I did start up again about 6 months after surgery doing LengthMaster and Bathmate sessions and kept it up for a few months without issues. Stopped for a bit and then started up again just with the Bathmate. Been pretty consistent with it for the past year but haven't taken any measurements in a long time.
 
Prior to hernia surgery I'd pull fairly hard on the Bathmate during my sessions. I waited 3 months or so after hernia surgery to attempt any PE and when I did I tried to pull on the BM like I had before. I got a pretty sharp pain from it. I put PE aside for a few more months after that. I have not pulled hard on my BM in any sessions since. I've done some gentle pulls but they amount to almost nothing.

I did start up again about 6 months after surgery doing LengthMaster and Bathmate sessions and kept it up for a few months without issues. Stopped for a bit and then started up again just with the Bathmate. Been pretty consistent with it for the past year but haven't taken any measurements in a long time.

Thanks for this update because it’s been in question over the past couple weeks as far as hernia surgery is concerned. This is excellent information to have for anyone that’s going through a hernia operation.
 
Thanks for this update because it’s been in question over the past couple weeks as far as hernia surgery is concerned. This is excellent information to have for anyone that’s going through a hernia operation.

It's all a matter of getting back to it when it feels right again. I decided to wait it out for quite a while just to be safe.
 
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Thanks for that, Cladre! I don't wanna do it but... I'll play it pretty safe as well. I'm using the SiliStretcher, (much lower tension over longer periods of time), so hopefully I won't face the same problems. My doctor gave me a six week recovery period and said that after that I could even return to heavy lifting, including squats, so hopefully that will suffice for PE as well. I'll take it slow!
 
Thanks for that, Cladre! I don't wanna do it but... I'll play it pretty safe as well. I'm using the SiliStretcher, (much lower tension over longer periods of time), so hopefully I won't face the same problems. My doctor gave me a six week recovery period and said that after that I could even return to heavy lifting, including squats, so hopefully that will suffice for PE as well. I'll take it slow!

I was back at work after 4 weeks because I begged to be given the "all clear" from the doc. I probably should've taken 6 but couldn't afford to be off any longer. I've apparently been fighting a bladder infection as well that started some time after the surgery. Don't know if 1 has anything to do with the other. I really need to make the appt with urology and get it sorted out.

After surgery just go by how you feel and use the recovery period as a reconditioning break. Keep your tylenol handy too. It did more for my pain than the pain killers they gave me.

Also wouldn't recommend jerking it for at least a week. I think I made it to day 6 or 7. Orgasm felt great because it had been a week but there was a little bit of pain as well. I waited a few more days to jerk it again after that and I was fine. Was having sex again by about 2 weeks and had to go slow and watch movements.

You'll be fine as long as you give yourself the right amount of time to recover. My hernia scar is still barely present almost 2yrs later but it's faded a lot. I was glued shut. In contrast a scar on my arm where I was stitched shut 35yrs ago shows more than my hernia scar.
 
I was back at work after 4 weeks because I begged to be given the "all clear" from the doc. I probably should've taken 6 but couldn't afford to be off any longer. I've apparently been fighting a bladder infection as well that started some time after the surgery. Don't know if 1 has anything to do with the other. I really need to make the appt with urology and get it sorted out.

After surgery just go by how you feel and use the recovery period as a reconditioning break. Keep your tylenol handy too. It did more for my pain than the pain killers they gave me.

Also wouldn't recommend jerking it for at least a week. I think I made it to day 6 or 7. Orgasm felt great because it had been a week but there was a little bit of pain as well. I waited a few more days to jerk it again after that and I was fine. Was having sex again by about 2 weeks and had to go slow and watch movements.

You'll be fine as long as you give yourself the right amount of time to recover. My hernia scar is still barely present almost 2yrs later but it's faded a lot. I was glued shut. In contrast a scar on my arm where I was stitched shut 35yrs ago shows more than my hernia scar.

Welcome back my brother!
 
I'm due to take my monthly measurements, but I'm skipping everything but BPSFL because my EQ has been junked recently. This may be because...

...I've recently gone cold turkey on pornography after reading one of Big Al's articles on the matter. Although I was able to achieve and maintain erections without adult entertainment, and although I haven't been looking at adult entertainment all that often for years, I did go through a phase a few years ago where I was pretty good and addicted. I got it under control, but never stopped entirely. After reading an article by Big Al, I wanted to see what would happen if I did just that, at least for a couple months or so.

What seems to be happening is that, EQ wise, I'm heading into some dark woods. Of course, heading into them is necessary to come out the other side. For about a week or so my EQ was basically gone. I couldn't get erect on sensation alone anymore, and when I did get erect it was pretty soft and weak. I'm climbing out of it now, getting erect with sensation alone and the EQ is improving, but it's still not where it was.

Anywho, BPSFL: 8"

That's an 1/8" loss from my BPSFL at the end of August. :( I've had that happen in my training before even though the general trend is upward. Does that mean I'm doing something wrong??
 
I'm due to take my monthly measurements, but I'm skipping everything but BPSFL because my EQ has been junked recently. This may be because...

...I've recently gone cold turkey on pornography after reading one of Big Al's articles on the matter. Although I was able to achieve and maintain erections without adult entertainment, and although I haven't been looking at adult entertainment all that often for years, I did go through a phase a few years ago where I was pretty good and addicted. I got it under control, but never stopped entirely. After reading an article by Big Al, I wanted to see what would happen if I did just that, at least for a couple months or so.

What seems to be happening is that, EQ wise, I'm heading into some dark woods. Of course, heading into them is necessary to come out the other side. For about a week or so my EQ was basically gone. I couldn't get erect on sensation alone anymore, and when I did get erect it was pretty soft and weak. I'm climbing out of it now, getting erect with sensation alone and the EQ is improving, but it's still not where it was.

Anywho, BPSFL: 8"

That's an 1/8" loss from my BPSFL at the end of August. :( I've had that happen in my training before even though the general trend is upward. Does that mean I'm doing something wrong??

Maybe the day you’ve measured you were lacking in EQ? That’s usually why men will see a decrease.
 
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