Brawn Johnson's Routine and Progress

Maybe the day you’ve measured you were lacking in EQ? That’s usually why men will see a decrease.
I was definitely lacking in EQ, but would that affect stretched flaccid length? I didn't even bother taking erect measurements until I get my EQ back up to snuff again, but I figured BPSFL would be unaffected.
 
I was definitely lacking in EQ, but would that affect stretched flaccid length? I didn't even bother taking erect measurements until I get my EQ back up to snuff again, but I figured BPSFL would be unaffected.

That doesn’t make much sense at all, I wonder why you would lose BPFS, this is so rare. I don’t have a good answer on this as it something that rarely happens. Perhaps you were pulling as hard as the last time or maybe the ruler sunken a bit deeper the last time, I’m not really sure but I know you’ll get it back.
 
Running into multiple issues with the SiliStretcher:

First, the velcro seems to be giving out. I've noticed 'dead spots' on the belt before where I couldn't attach the strap, but I was always able to adjust the belt and just attach to another spot. Today it just wouldn't stick anywhere. (This is at 5lb tension). Weird thing is... when the strap is not attached to me and I just stick it on the belt any old where, it sticks just fine. When it's attached and I'm wrapping it around my waist, however, it doesn't hold. I can't think of what the difference would be there and so I have no idea how to solve this.

Second, the silisleeve is not holding a vacuum. This happened before with my durosleeve, and I figured the sleeve itself was worn out. I switched it out with a SiliSleeve and the problem went away. Yesterday my (thinner) SiliSleeve tore when I removed it from the vacuum bell, and today I switched that out for a new (wider because that's all I have left) SiliSleeve. The new sleeve failed to hold a vacuum, day 1. I can get it to form an initially very strong vacuum, but after just a minute or so of pulling the strap into place and trying to get it to stick to the belt, the vacuum is gone. I've never used this sleeve before, never removed it from its plastic bag, so I doubt it's compromised. Maybe the wide sleeves just don't work for this?

I'm way past out of time to do PE today... might have to go back to manual work after all if I can't figure out what's going on.
 
Running into multiple issues with the SiliStretcher:

First, the velcro seems to be giving out. I've noticed 'dead spots' on the belt before where I couldn't attach the strap, but I was always able to adjust the belt and just attach to another spot. Today it just wouldn't stick anywhere. (This is at 5lb tension). Weird thing is... when the strap is not attached to me and I just stick it on the belt any old where, it sticks just fine. When it's attached and I'm wrapping it around my waist, however, it doesn't hold. I can't think of what the difference would be there and so I have no idea how to solve this.

Second, the silisleeve is not holding a vacuum. This happened before with my durosleeve, and I figured the sleeve itself was worn out. I switched it out with a SiliSleeve and the problem went away. Yesterday my (thinner) SiliSleeve tore when I removed it from the vacuum bell, and today I switched that out for a new (wider because that's all I have left) SiliSleeve. The new sleeve failed to hold a vacuum, day 1. I can get it to form an initially very strong vacuum, but after just a minute or so of pulling the strap into place and trying to get it to stick to the belt, the vacuum is gone. I've never used this sleeve before, never removed it from its plastic bag, so I doubt it's compromised. Maybe the wide sleeves just don't work for this?

I'm way past out of time to do PE today... might have to go back to manual work after all if I can't figure out what's going on.

@Brawn Johnson , no worries. Can you shoot a video of the issue with the velcro and PM it to me? Also, Send me a picture of the SiliStretcher and sleeve you are having issue with. You can attach them right in the message.
I have never heard of this happening with anyone with the velcro.

Do you know if you have the SiliSleev1 (Blue) or the SiliSleev2?
 
@Brawn Johnson , no worries. Can you shoot a video of the issue with the velcro and PM it to me? Also, Send me a picture of the SiliStretcher and sleeve you are having issue with. You can attach them right in the message.
I have never heard of this happening with anyone with the velcro.

Do you know if you have the SiliSleev1 (Blue) or the SiliSleev2?

So quick! Thank you Lightning for getting to this immediately.
 
@Lightning and I stand behind all products 100%. If something has gone wrong with the device simply send a message to us at [email protected]
I know you do and I appreciate that. Didn't mean to crap on the product or anything, just using my journal to vent frustration with a bump in my road. ;) We'll get it figured out, even if I end up relying more heavily again on the peerless LengthMaster.

@Brawn Johnson , no worries. Can you shoot a video of the issue with the velcro and PM it to me? Also, Send me a picture of the SiliStretcher and sleeve you are having issue with. You can attach them right in the message.
I have never heard of this happening with anyone with the velcro.

Do you know if you have the SiliSleev1 (Blue) or the SiliSleev2?
Hey Lightning,

I'll try the SiliStretcher again on Monday and get some video for you if it happens again.

Re: the velcro, I've had the problem before and then it just disappears the next day. Yesterday was just the worst I've ever struggled with it. I'm not surprised to hear this is an oddity, It sure confuses the hell out of me! I mean, it's velcro. Velcro not sticking is like a wheel not turning. There's nothing visibly wrong with it, it's not dirty, it sticks when nothing's attached to me... I'm scratching tunnels through my head trying to figure out what on earth could be happening there.

Re: the vacuum and sleeve, it's a blue silisleeve and it's pretty wide. I suspect I just need to use the thin sleeves, but my last thin sleeve tore. I'm pretty confident switching to a thinner sleeve will fix this.

Thanks for the support, as always!
 
I know you do and I appreciate that. Didn't mean to crap on the product or anything, just using my journal to vent frustration with a bump in my road. ;) We'll get it figured out, even if I end up relying more heavily again on the peerless LengthMaster.


Hey Lightning,

I'll try the SiliStretcher again on Monday and get some video for you if it happens again.

Re: the velcro, I've had the problem before and then it just disappears the next day. Yesterday was just the worst I've ever struggled with it. I'm not surprised to hear this is an oddity, It sure confuses the hell out of me! I mean, it's velcro. Velcro not sticking is like a wheel not turning. There's nothing visibly wrong with it, it's not dirty, it sticks when nothing's attached to me... I'm scratching tunnels through my head trying to figure out what on earth could be happening there.

Re: the vacuum and sleeve, it's a blue silisleeve and it's pretty wide. I suspect I just need to use the thin sleeves, but my last thin sleeve tore. I'm pretty confident switching to a thinner sleeve will fix this.

Thanks for the support, as always!

Cool. Are you using the right side of the belt? If you put the belt on reverse, it will not attach to the strap (I've done this myself before).
With velcro, one side is loop and one side is hook. The strap with the clip is hook velcro. The belt is one side hook and other side neutral. If you are occasionally trying to attach hook velcro strap to the void side belt, it won't attach. Over the course of the past year, we have yet had anyone report that the velcro belt and strap stopped working.

The vacuum problem is the blue SiliSleev. We got rid of those blue SiliSleevs for the SiliStretcher2. We now have a SiliSleev2, SiliSleev5 and DuroSleevs which seem to be working for everyone now. We can get you a complimentary SiliSleev5 to use, just email [email protected] your name and request. The SiliSleev5 comes in 3/4" and 1" diameters and is harder than the Blue SiliSleev1, white SiliSleev2 but softer than the DuroSleev.
 
Cool. Are you using the right side of the belt? If you put the belt on reverse, it will not attach to the strap (I've done this myself before).
With velcro, one side is loop and one side is hook. The strap with the clip is hook velcro. The belt is one side hook and other side neutral. If you are occasionally trying to attach hook velcro strap to the void side belt, it won't attach. Over the course of the past year, we have yet had anyone report that the velcro belt and strap stopped working.

The vacuum problem is the blue SiliSleev. We got rid of those blue SiliSleevs for the SiliStretcher2. We now have a SiliSleev2, SiliSleev5 and DuroSleevs which seem to be working for everyone now. We can get you a complimentary SiliSleev5 to use, just email [email protected] your name and request. The SiliSleev5 comes in 3/4" and 1" diameters and is harder than the Blue SiliSleev1, white SiliSleev2 but softer than the DuroSleev.
Hey Lightning,

I checked to make sure the fuzzy side of the belt was out. Literally all I had to do to make the strap stick to the belt was to remove the strap. (Didn't take the belt off or change anything about it). And there was the vacuum bell, dangling at my side. I was attaching with around 5lb tension there, and the velcro has held over 7lb of tension for me before.

I really want to give you something more helpful here, but I'm at a loss. One quick fix I'm considering is just sticking a safety pin through the strap and belt together once I get it adjusted properly. Then I won't need to rely on the velcro at all! Just worried about sticking myself. o_o

I appreciate the offer for the sleeve. I've gotten the vacuum to work just fine with the original SiliSleeves, too. "Fine" as in I've had that bell glued to me. So something else is going on here... It looked like the vacuum loss was starting near the connection of the sleeve and bell, so maybe I just tried using a defective sleeve that had a little hole in it or something? I dunno. Like I say, I'll try again on Monday and if this stuff happens again I'll document it so you can see better what's going on.
 
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Worst case scenario we will get you a replacement belt. But please send a video when you get a chance so I can see the error.
 
❤️ Everything always works out in the brotherhood
 
Worst case scenario we will get you a replacement belt. But please send a video when you get a chance so I can see the error.

@Lightning
I still can't get the vacuum seal to stay, so I'm unable to get you that video. Even if I could, the velcro failure seems to be intermittent. I've attached a picture of the sleeve, at least! The moment before I took this picture, it had a decent vacuum seal. It just doesn't last more than a minute or so.

If I can get you the video, though, it will only be to give you more insight into something happening with your product. I appreciate the offer for a new belt, but you don't need to do that! I'm not just being polite here, a safety pin is an easy fix. :)

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Had the hernia repaired yesterday, used the SiliStretcher right up to that day and now I'm settling down for recovery.

Recovery Plan:

-For minimum of two weeks, nothing but ACE bandage wrap and possibly girth/EQ work (nothing that would pull on the penis)
-After two weeks, I meet with my doctor to check progress. At that point, depending on how I'm feeling, I may try to get back into ADS at around 3lb tension and see how it goes with lower tension at longer periods. If any pain at all, back to the ACE wrap for the full 6 weeks!
 
Had the hernia repaired yesterday, used the SiliStretcher right up to that day and now I'm settling down for recovery.

Recovery Plan:

-For minimum of two weeks, nothing but ACE bandage wrap and possibly girth/EQ work (nothing that would pull on the penis)
-After two weeks, I meet with my doctor to check progress. At that point, depending on how I'm feeling, I may try to get back into ADS at around 3lb tension and see how it goes with lower tension at longer periods. If any pain at all, back to the ACE wrap for the full 6 weeks!

All sounds like good news! I pray that everything goes well for you at the doctors.
 
Had the hernia repaired yesterday, used the SiliStretcher right up to that day and now I'm settling down for recovery.

Recovery Plan:

-For minimum of two weeks, nothing but ACE bandage wrap and possibly girth/EQ work (nothing that would pull on the penis)
-After two weeks, I meet with my doctor to check progress. At that point, depending on how I'm feeling, I may try to get back into ADS at around 3lb tension and see how it goes with lower tension at longer periods. If any pain at all, back to the ACE wrap for the full 6 weeks!

Thinking about my penis was the last thing on my mind after hernia surgery. I was counting the hours until I could take more tylenol the first week or so. 2 weeks after surgery I joined a friend hiking through the woods all day bear hunting. We went out 2 days and at the end of each I was really sore from all the walking.

Good luck in your recovery.
 
Thinking about my penis was the last thing on my mind after hernia surgery. I was counting the hours until I could take more tylenol the first week or so. 2 weeks after surgery I joined a friend hiking through the woods all day bear hunting. We went out 2 days and at the end of each I was really sore from all the walking.

Good luck in your recovery.
Thanks, Cladre.

That sounds nuts! I had the laproscopic surgery instead of the traditional one, which apparently makes a HUGE difference. It's way less invasive because the procedure is done by little robot arms rather than big ass human hands. The worst part of recovery for me was the sore throat from the intubation, which is almost a double-edged sword. I was up and about pretty well by the next day, but that doesn't mean I'm not supposed to be taking it easy to let the body heal/scar over the mesh properly.

I've been behaving myself pretty well, though. :)

In fact, I gave myself a couple extra weeks even after the checkup. Measuring today, and I'll try out starting a routine again tomorrow!
 
Thanks, Cladre.

That sounds nuts! I had the laproscopic surgery instead of the traditional one, which apparently makes a HUGE difference. It's way less invasive because the procedure is done by little robot arms rather than big ass human hands. The worst part of recovery for me was the sore throat from the intubation, which is almost a double-edged sword. I was up and about pretty well by the next day, but that doesn't mean I'm not supposed to be taking it easy to let the body heal/scar over the mesh properly.

I've been behaving myself pretty well, though. :)

In fact, I gave myself a couple extra weeks even after the checkup. Measuring today, and I'll try out starting a routine again tomorrow!

so good to hear!
 
Thanks, Cladre.

That sounds nuts! I had the laproscopic surgery instead of the traditional one, which apparently makes a HUGE difference. It's way less invasive because the procedure is done by little robot arms rather than big ass human hands. The worst part of recovery for me was the sore throat from the intubation, which is almost a double-edged sword. I was up and about pretty well by the next day, but that doesn't mean I'm not supposed to be taking it easy to let the body heal/scar over the mesh properly.

I've been behaving myself pretty well, though. :)

In fact, I gave myself a couple extra weeks even after the checkup. Measuring today, and I'll try out starting a routine again tomorrow!

Good luck in your healing. Mine was done the traditional way and was pretty painful. I also rushed back to work at 4 weeks and struggled through the discomfort. I'm on my feet all day and there's times it can get pretty physical. Short term disability wasn't paying enough so I was pretty much forced to work.
 
Good luck in your healing. Mine was done the traditional way and was pretty painful. I also rushed back to work at 4 weeks and struggled through the discomfort. I'm on my feet all day and there's times it can get pretty physical. Short term disability wasn't paying enough so I was pretty much forced to work.
Good to see you Cladre!
 
Hi friend was an inguinal or umbilicsl hernia? Hope you get some nice gains after the decondition brake.
Hey bud, it was inguinal. The nice thing about getting an inguinal fixed is that I've essentially permanently reduced the fat pad. (The bulge of the hernia was right at the base of the penis). So actually, it's almost like I've made gains just by having the surgery!
 
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Hey bud, it was inguinal. The nice thing about getting an inguinal fixed is that I've essentially permanently reduced the fat pad. (The bulge of the hernia was right at the base of the penis). So actually, it's almost like I've made gains just by having the surgery!

that’s incredible what a added bonus! And the fat pad is gone!
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Just checking in to mention that I'm in my second week back on the trail now, still relying on SiliStretcher for stretching, with Squeezes for girth and weighted kegels for EQ.

Coming back into PE after my post-surgery break, I'm going to try reducing how quickly I build up the intensity of workouts. My overall history in PE is a lot of "start-and-stop" results. Part of that is probably because of how often I've been changing my approach entirely, but I suspect part of that might be building up intensity too quickly so that I start overtraining soon after initial results. I'll take it a little slower, and focus on paying attention to sensations and PIs!
 
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Just checking in to mention that I'm in my second week back on the trail now, still relying on SiliStretcher for stretching, with Squeezes for girth and weighted kegels for EQ.

Coming back into PE after my post-surgery break, I'm going to try reducing how quickly I build up the intensity of workouts. My overall history in PE is a lot of "start-and-stop" results. Part of that is probably because of how often I've been changing my approach entirely, but I suspect part of that might be building up intensity too quickly so that I start overtraining soon after initial results. I'll take it a little slower, and focus on paying attention to sensations and PIs!

This is a much smarter approach and this should keep you very consistent too. Since you’re coming back from the break start out very easy and work your way up in intensity, there’s no rush and you don’t want to injure yourself. When you reach your maximum intensity you’ll know it.
 
Painful admission:

I fell off the horse 100% over the holidays. Didn't even wear the ACE wrap. And I had JUST come out of recovery, too. :(

But the family is gone, along with all of my excuses, and I'm back in the saddle today.

I'm also switching up my EQ routine. EQ is not really an issue for me right now. I can get erections quickly and easily with physical stimulation alone (no mental imagery allowed), and the erections are strong enough for weighted kegels. Still, I bet I could get EQ stronger.

SO WHAT'S THE CHANGE ALREADY??

I'm going to switch from weighted kegels to the Angion method and see what that does for my EQ. I'll be starting out from Angion 1.0 at 10 minutes per session, three sessions per week! I'm not really sure how to measure EQ, so I'll just see if I feel any different after a few weeks. :)
 
Hey man thanks man for your candid posts.

I hope your recovery from surgery went well. I’m actually a young surgeon in training (2 more years till I can practice on my own).

I was having the same issues as you with the lengthmaster i.e. blood from the urethra and glans despite using the durasleeve. Were you ever able to figure out a solution to prevent this?

I have a silistretcher as well and actually found a pretty great method of keeping it secured in place.

Unfortunately like yourself, I sorta fell off the wagon for the past two months. The blood and bruising scared me and the holidays.

I’ll take some pics of how I wear my silistretcher - which seems to hold really well.
 
There is no bandwagon to fall off of the only place you fell was back into the brotherhood. Consistency and motivation will always be the two most difficult parts of PE. Time off can sometimes lead to a permanent vacation. This is why I suggest that everyone gets something in every day even if it’s a day off. We want our head to be in this game as much as possible. Forget about the past and what you didn’t do and let’s stay in this moment and make shit happen.
 
Hey man thanks man for your candid posts.

I hope your recovery from surgery went well. I’m actually a young surgeon in training (2 more years till I can practice on my own).

I was having the same issues as you with the lengthmaster i.e. blood from the urethra and glans despite using the durasleeve. Were you ever able to figure out a solution to prevent this?

I have a silistretcher as well and actually found a pretty great method of keeping it secured in place.

Unfortunately like yourself, I sorta fell off the wagon for the past two months. The blood and bruising scared me and the holidays.

I’ll take some pics of how I wear my silistretcher - which seems to hold really well.
Hey there, Bioshock. My recovery was tip top! The laproscopic method made it pretty painless. The hardest part was behaving myself and not working out or carrying anything. :)

As for the bleeding, I ended up sorting that out by adding a thick layer of folded-up toilet paper underneath the SiliSleeve, for some extra cushioning. I also backed off of 20lb tension and worked for a bit with just 15lb before adding tension again. One or both of those things seems to have done the trick. Another thing you might consider is drilling holes for new screws on the other side of the lengthmaster chamber, so that the pressure is distributed more evenly along the width of the chamber rather than concentrating along the line between the two original screws. Does that make sense?
 
Having some trouble getting my momentum back, here! Even the mighty Durosleev tore today, and for some madness I still haven't figured out none of my old SiliSleeves are holding a vacuum with the SiliStretcher anymore. It's weird because I successfully used SiliSleeves with the SiliStretcher for months and it worked fine until the day it didn't. I've included a video of the Silisleeve not holding at all. This seems to me precisely how I put it all on when the SiliSleeves were working, and same for the Durosleev. But maybe someone can spot something?

Not sure what to do here... MoS you guys have already been awesome replacing the torn sleeves before, I don't want to keep milking you for it. Things break. At the same time, this tech appears to be increasingly unreliable. I might go back to 'manual' sessions after all. : / Weeeeee'll see.
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Having some trouble getting my momentum back, here! Even the mighty Durosleev tore today, and for some madness I still haven't figured out none of my old SiliSleeves are holding a vacuum with the SiliStretcher anymore. It's weird because I successfully used SiliSleeves with the SiliStretcher for months and it worked fine until the day it didn't. I've included a video of the Silisleeve not holding at all. This seems to me precisely how I put it all on when the SiliSleeves were working, and same for the Durosleev. But maybe someone can spot something?

Not sure what to do here... MoS you guys have already been awesome replacing the torn sleeves before, I don't want to keep milking you for it. Things break. At the same time, this tech appears to be increasingly unreliable. I might go back to 'manual' sessions after all. : / Weeeeee'll see.
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As always, I want to be clear on this point: I mention the problems I'm running into with the SiliStretcher only to document the actual obstacles I'm facing in my PE journey. MoS has developed a fine product that seems to be working perfectly for most and is GREAT when it (usually) works for me. Further, MoS has been sending me replacement parts at no cost, honoring the warranty they provided. I have a lot of respect for that.

Thanks for jumping on this, DLD, and thanks for reaching out, Lightning.

I did a manual workout yesterday, and had some soreness afterwards only and exactly where I just had a hernia repaired. I suspect that high-volume, low-intensity training such as ADS or hanging is in fact the safest way to do things following that operation. I'm going to try a manual session one more time today and see if I get the same result or if that was a fluke. If it happens again, I'll go back to wrapping (in order to prevent any losses) while I figure out this SiliStretcher business and give myself more time to heal!

EDIT: Another idea to try... the stretches targeting ligaments are probably the most dangerous for the former and possibly-still-healing hernia site, so if I get soreness again today I'll try a regimen isolating the shaft/tunica and leave the surrounding area alone. If that works, I'll keep making what gains I can from tunica stretching alone while everything else heals.
 
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Yesterday I performed a manual session without excluding any stretches, but I lowered tension from 20 to 15lb for the tension stretch. After the workout, no soreness anywhere. Should be safe!

I just read LongStretch's most-excellent thread, "The Long Game: Learning With LongStretch..." and looking through it seems to confirm my 'overtraining' suspicion. Not only do I build intensity pretty quickly from workout to workout, but I also train every weekday. This alone might be too much, and that would be an AMAZING problem to have because right now the big threat to my PE career is how much time this is gobbling up.

Still, all these changes to what I'm doing all coming so rapid-fire... I'm getting to a place again where nothing is consistent or measured. I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing for another couple of weeks, resign myself to a possible throw-away month, measure anyway, and then come up with a plan that will involve backing WAY off the intensity and dialing back how many days/week I train.
 
Remember, gaining is all about light tension and long times. Starting off hanging 15-20lbs for short times doesn't make gains. Your body reacts to stress and counters. it's like when you get sick, your body does everything to heal. When you stress your dick, your body is going to fight against it. You want to moderately stretch for long periods to make gains.
 
Remember, gaining is all about light tension and long times. Starting off hanging 15-20lbs for short times doesn't make gains. Your body reacts to stress and counters. it's like when you get sick, your body does everything to heal. When you stress your dick, your body is going to fight against it. You want to moderately stretch for long periods to make gains.

Very interesting take!
 
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