Brawn Johnson's Routine and Progress
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This is excellent advice and I agree with you! At the same time I'll make one subtle (but important) distinction. Rushing the result is good, (all else being equal, a process that gets the same result in a shorter time frame is superior), but rushing the process is bad. Rushing the process is how you get a sloppy job with bad results, and that's the opposite of rushing the result!
The problem has been that -- as far as I know -- I'm the first stretcher to record this data (force applied). Until now, stretchers have "pulled hard" or focused on getting a "good stretch." Believe you me, 25lb gave me a fantastic (and perfectly comfortable) stretch in my shaft and ligaments! NOW we know that 20-25lb is probably rushing the process, at least at my level of PE experience, but only because I've been precisely and objectively recording what I do and what the results have been.
Have I been reckless? Arguably, perhaps. But not sloppy, sir!
To be fair, the sooner I reach my PE goals, the sooner I can free up 1-2 hrs/day. Faster... FASTER!!. But I think you and Red are correct. No sense in trying to do too much and hurting myself, which I clearly am with the forces I'm currently applying. SO, resting up until bruises are gone and coming back with just 15lbs force.
I'll also be adding in the silicap for sure. Thanks for the tip!
This is going to change everything for you. The sleeves will not only protect you but they’ll give you comfort beyond anything that’s out there. And for the price, I can’t believe everybody and their brother their father and their grandfather is in buying these!
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Yesterday I backed off to 15lbs tension on my basic stretches, but stayed at 20lbs for Big Al's tension stretches. Today I had some bruising on my glans again, and what looked like a little blister on the tip. Perhaps this is the 'fluid retention' I've heard about? I massaged the glans throughout my warmup and warmdown, and both the bruising and blisters were reduced significantly just during this workout.
I backed off to 15lbs tension on ALL stretching today. That tension appears safe for my glans, although it still requires clamping the bundle chamber hard enough to cut off circulation. Hopefully that won't be a problem for the relatively brief amounts of time that I do manual stretching!
So I'm in a safe zone and staying there for now, but the tradeoff is that I'm definitely leaving money on the table by lowering the tension like this. The stretch in my shaft and tendons felt fantastic at 20 - 25lbs, I just need to think of how I can pull at those forces without creating so much pressure in the glans. All these injuries are slowing me way down, though, so I'm not even going to mess with it for a bit. I'm just going to focus on staying consistent for a while even if the intensity isn't exactly what I'd like it to be!
For those of you who've noticed my thread about difficulties with in-workout EQ, I'll note that I had by far and away my best SSJ session ever without the use of adult entertainment or even mental visualization to achieve or maintain an erection. The biggest takeaway going forward is to not keep things to myself... I could have saved myself a week of beating myself up if I'd posted on the forum about this sooner!
I backed off to 15lbs tension on ALL stretching today. That tension appears safe for my glans, although it still requires clamping the bundle chamber hard enough to cut off circulation. Hopefully that won't be a problem for the relatively brief amounts of time that I do manual stretching!
So I'm in a safe zone and staying there for now, but the tradeoff is that I'm definitely leaving money on the table by lowering the tension like this. The stretch in my shaft and tendons felt fantastic at 20 - 25lbs, I just need to think of how I can pull at those forces without creating so much pressure in the glans. All these injuries are slowing me way down, though, so I'm not even going to mess with it for a bit. I'm just going to focus on staying consistent for a while even if the intensity isn't exactly what I'd like it to be!
For those of you who've noticed my thread about difficulties with in-workout EQ, I'll note that I had by far and away my best SSJ session ever without the use of adult entertainment or even mental visualization to achieve or maintain an erection. The biggest takeaway going forward is to not keep things to myself... I could have saved myself a week of beating myself up if I'd posted on the forum about this sooner!
This is made my day! I’m so proud of you and you are a incredible inspiration showing that filth is not necessary in PE.
Word to life! I’m finding so much happiness and pride in how so many brothers have turned away from adult entertainment and have found other ways to do their girth work. I pray for the brotherhood every single night and seems like those prayers are coming to fruition.
Honestly teared up a little bit seeing the response today. Such great energy and support over here at MoS, it's a beautiful thing! Thank you all for being a part of it!
I’m so happy you do! By the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ I’m so glad that we are a completely absolutely clean forum now! adult entertainment will eventually destroy life. We should not condone it nor should we put man in the path of it. We are much better than subjugating women! I am not saying that we are perfect nor am I saying that we will not fall for it every once in again. But what I am saying is we are making huge steps in staying away from it. We’re not looking for perfection we are looking for progress.
I got to 24 days and choose to masturbate and view adult entertainment. Right after I regretted it. Oh well I am not perfect. Pray for me to become stronger! I felt guilty for a little while but soon glforgave myself and moved on.
New measurements today!
Flaccid Girth: 4.5"
BPFL: 5"
BPSFL: 7 5/8"
Erect Girth: 5 5/16"
BPEL: 7 1/4"
I also updated the measurement post (#5) of this thread so anyone can see those measurements in the context of my entire history.
This was the first day I measured using only cold erections (no pornography or mental visualizing to get myself erect), and I did it in record time.
The apparent lack of girth gains this past month doesn't surprise me. All I do for girth is SSJ, and those of you following along know most of that time each day is really just me trying to achieve and maintain cold erections. So... in reality I haven't been doing girth work... pretty much at all.
Flaccid Girth: 4.5"
BPFL: 5"
BPSFL: 7 5/8"
Erect Girth: 5 5/16"
BPEL: 7 1/4"
I also updated the measurement post (#5) of this thread so anyone can see those measurements in the context of my entire history.
This was the first day I measured using only cold erections (no pornography or mental visualizing to get myself erect), and I did it in record time.
The apparent lack of girth gains this past month doesn't surprise me. All I do for girth is SSJ, and those of you following along know most of that time each day is really just me trying to achieve and maintain cold erections. So... in reality I haven't been doing girth work... pretty much at all.
Haursen
The Godly PE Journeyman
New measurements today!
Flaccid Girth: 4.5"
BPFL: 5"
BPSFL: 7 5/8"
Erect Girth: 5 5/16"
BPEL: 7 1/4"
I also updated the measurement post (#5) of this thread so anyone can see those measurements in the context of my entire history.
This was the first day I measured using only cold erections (no pornography or mental visualizing to get myself erect), and I did it in record time.
The apparent lack of girth gains this past month doesn't surprise me. All I do for girth is SSJ, and those of you following along know most of that time each day is really just me trying to achieve and maintain cold erections. So... in reality I haven't been doing girth work... pretty much at all.
Here's the link for the previous measurements.
Looks like you're making gains @Brawn Johnson ! Really thrilled to see that, keep up the good work! (like)
I'm sure you can catch up with the girth work.
I'm sure you can catch up with the girth work.
Ah, clever! I'm not sure how you linked to a specific post, but I'll copy and past your link next month if I remember it. Cheers, Haursen!Here's the link for the previous measurements.
Thanks, Ark! Yeah, if the girth keeps lagging I'll just shift focus a bit later on. I haven't even started pumping or anything yet, so there's plenty of room to up the workload.
Thank you, Mike! Onward and upward!
Thanks, DLD! I think that's exactly what I'll do.
Haursen
The Godly PE Journeyman
@Brawn Johnson What you will do is that you would find the original post and click on the number of the post (on the upper right side of the post).
Then from there, you would copy the web address in the address bar then paste into your new post.
Then from there, you would copy the web address in the address bar then paste into your new post.
You truly are a ninja. Doctor.@Brawn Johnson What you will do is that you would find the original post and click on the number of the post (on the upper right side of the post).
Then from there, you would copy the web address in the address bar then paste into your new post.
?@Brawn Johnson What you will do is that you would find the original post and click on the number of the post (on the upper right side of the post).
Then from there, you would copy the web address in the address bar then paste into your new post.
Let us also pray for one another to keep the success going for the whole brotherhood!
REDZULU2003
Well-known member
Keep it going
REDZULU2003
Well-known member
You know I hadn't read this properly! Its a terrific idea, and will measure the amount of force being exerted on the penis while using the length master or power assist
I won't lie, I've been pretty shocked at how slowly this thing is taking off. I know people have traditionally stretched "blind," and plenty of people have gotten fine results that way, but it seems overwhelmingly obvious to me that one is better off measuring this stuff!
Even just doing it on my own, I know exactly how much force I'm using. I know for a fact that I'm not hitting it hard one day but inadvertently backing off the next. It's because I'm measuring that I know I can get a good stretch in at 15lbs, but avoid injury by keeping it there. It's because I'm measuring that I can hit that safe-but-effective range day after day.
And then imagine when it's common for the entire PE community to measure the forces used during stretching, and we have access to that kind of data! Maybe we see patterns emerge of some optimal range or practice that consistently gets the best results. Maybe we will have the numbers to show how important progressive overload is. Maybe we'll find that PO works best when we increase the time, or best when we increase intensity. Maybe we'll find PO isn't a thing at all and the best is to just stay consistent. Maybe we'll find different answers for different sorts of people. Who knows what patterns could emerge that would help us get smarter and smarter about how we train? We won't find out until we've got the data.
Great suggestion, in Barracuda's thread, about including a scale with the devices we already sell. That should help get the ball rolling!
Today marks the 4th straight week of hitting it every (week)day! Had to back off here and there due to injury, but going forward I should be able to avoid even that now that I've got a safe and effective force range to use. My poor girth work there at the end is what needs the most attention, but length is my primary focus anyway. If I need to play catchup with girth later then I can shift the emphasis of the workout and break out the pump again.
Speaking of girth work, I found yesterday that I could get a lot more SSJ-ing into my 6 minutes if I didn't try to go for full erection, and actually the quality seemed to go up a bit. I could feel the pressure a bit better when there was a bit more 'give' in the shaft, and I could roll it around a bit like DLD does in that dildo theater video. (Where did you guys shoot that??) Anyway, something to try if you've been struggling with it.
I hope everyone is having a good time going after their goals, and if anyone has fallen off the horse this is a great day to get back on!
Speaking of girth work, I found yesterday that I could get a lot more SSJ-ing into my 6 minutes if I didn't try to go for full erection, and actually the quality seemed to go up a bit. I could feel the pressure a bit better when there was a bit more 'give' in the shaft, and I could roll it around a bit like DLD does in that dildo theater video. (Where did you guys shoot that??
) Anyway, something to try if you've been struggling with it.I hope everyone is having a good time going after their goals, and if anyone has fallen off the horse this is a great day to get back on!
REDZULU2003
Well-known member
I think this is FANTASTIC and I like looking into things technically, and this brings it more in line with methods such as hanging weights, using the extender, pumping because all those can be measured how much force is being used ... stretching always was a blank zone, and I always used to say stretch with intensity, but as we know my intensity could be medium for you ... people have different strengths, hand grip and literally what DLD sees as a hard pull could be VERY hard for someone else
With this device we can say, stretch with for example 40lbs of force, and it is across the entire board with all users.
With this device we can say, stretch with for example 40lbs of force, and it is across the entire board with all users.
Oh god 40lbs...
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I feel like I've heard of hangers getting crazy like that, though. Maybe someday I, too, will be so powerful!
Just been hitting my daily routine, another good week turned in so far!
Part of my routine involves A-stretches, and I thought I'd mention a couple adjustments I've made to help get more out of that exercise.
The A-stretch was introduced to me primarily as a shaft or tunica stretch, and it certainly accomplishes that, but it can also be adjusted to provide more of a lig or expressive stretch, as well as to help fight turkey neck.
First I'm going to define a couple terms. The hand you use to grip your shaft is called the grip hand (GH) and the hand over which your shaft is stretched is called the stretch hand (SH).
To add a ligament/expressive element, simply pull both hands away from your body once you've set up the stretch and can feel it in your shaft. Be careful not to lose the feeling of stretch in the shaft! To control the tension applied to the lig/expressive element, pull both hands away from your body with more or less force. To control the tension applied to the shaft/tunica element, pull down with your GH and/or push up with your SH. This is actually a great way to get more force into manual stretching than you might otherwise do, since the A-stretch itself actually creates a pretty strong grip on the shaft, and much of the force of your pull away from the body will dissipate down into your SH wrist rather than going straight to your GH grip. Experiment with different directions of pull!
To help reduce or prevent turkey neck, add a twist with your SH. As you place the SH beneath the penis and grab your GH, the top of your SH should be rotated out away from your body. Once you've secured your shaft against the top of your SH, rotate the SH back towards your body again. The friction against your shaft will pull the skin beneath it back away from the glans, adding a TN-fighting skin stretch. Experiment with how much force you apply here, as too force in the skin stretch will reduce the force applied to the tunica, which is your primary target.
By making these adjustments, you can leverage this stretch to accomplish three things at once, rather than simply stretching the shaft/tunica. Just be careful not to get carried away with these adjustments and lose your focus on the tunica! That's first priority.
Part of my routine involves A-stretches, and I thought I'd mention a couple adjustments I've made to help get more out of that exercise.
The A-stretch was introduced to me primarily as a shaft or tunica stretch, and it certainly accomplishes that, but it can also be adjusted to provide more of a lig or expressive stretch, as well as to help fight turkey neck.
First I'm going to define a couple terms. The hand you use to grip your shaft is called the grip hand (GH) and the hand over which your shaft is stretched is called the stretch hand (SH).
To add a ligament/expressive element, simply pull both hands away from your body once you've set up the stretch and can feel it in your shaft. Be careful not to lose the feeling of stretch in the shaft! To control the tension applied to the lig/expressive element, pull both hands away from your body with more or less force. To control the tension applied to the shaft/tunica element, pull down with your GH and/or push up with your SH. This is actually a great way to get more force into manual stretching than you might otherwise do, since the A-stretch itself actually creates a pretty strong grip on the shaft, and much of the force of your pull away from the body will dissipate down into your SH wrist rather than going straight to your GH grip. Experiment with different directions of pull!
To help reduce or prevent turkey neck, add a twist with your SH. As you place the SH beneath the penis and grab your GH, the top of your SH should be rotated out away from your body. Once you've secured your shaft against the top of your SH, rotate the SH back towards your body again. The friction against your shaft will pull the skin beneath it back away from the glans, adding a TN-fighting skin stretch. Experiment with how much force you apply here, as too force in the skin stretch will reduce the force applied to the tunica, which is your primary target.
By making these adjustments, you can leverage this stretch to accomplish three things at once, rather than simply stretching the shaft/tunica. Just be careful not to get carried away with these adjustments and lose your focus on the tunica! That's first priority.
Looking at all the work you do in reading through your incredible progress thread I’m just amazed at how well you’ve taken theory here and made it work for you. I see the elements of SRT within your routine so I know that you’re paying attention. I’m also amazed with how much help you give other brothers here, God bless you!
I really appreciate that, DLD. I wouldn't even have gotten started on this stuff in the first place if it weren't for you and the community here at MoS, so any value I provide is just fruit of the tree you planted.
Continue in your awesome work and I think will have a place for you in management pretty soon!
Just checking in for a quick update: Al has me doing a recovery week every six weeks or so. I'm slammed this week with things to get done, so I'm taking recovery this week!
Good to hear from you @Brawn Johnson !
Keep your head in the game and I'm wishing you a speedy recovery. As in, hopefully it will go by fast and that you can concentrate on workouts again come the next week.
Keep your head in the game and I'm wishing you a speedy recovery.
As in, hopefully it will go by fast and that you can concentrate on workouts again come the next week.
Haursen
The Godly PE Journeyman
Take your time. Better to do PE in a relaxed state than a frenzied mind for sure!
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
'half this game is 90% mental' ~ Y. Berra
'half this game is 90% mental' ~ Y. Berra
Yup!
Measurement Update!
Measurements as of 2/24/2019. These were taken at the end of a rest week, whereas past measurements have been taken after just 2-day breaks unless otherwise noted.
Flaccid Girth: 4 3/4"
BPFL: 5 1/4"
BPSFL: 7 3/4"
Erect Girth: 5 1/4"
BPEL: 7 3/8"
You can see these measurements in the context of my entire history here.
Rest week over, back to work!
Measurements as of 2/24/2019. These were taken at the end of a rest week, whereas past measurements have been taken after just 2-day breaks unless otherwise noted.
Flaccid Girth: 4 3/4"
BPFL: 5 1/4"
BPSFL: 7 3/4"
Erect Girth: 5 1/4"
BPEL: 7 3/8"
You can see these measurements in the context of my entire history here.
Rest week over, back to work!
Congratulations on a journey that continues to get better and better. You are a true inspiration and so many are looking toward you for help and understanding. That’s the beauty of a solid progress thread your history helps so many in the future.
As a general rule, if something's working it's best not to tinker with it unless you have a good reason to think you'll improve things. "If it ain't broke..."
Having said that, I'm making a decision to roll the dice here. The routine I've been using has been getting me results, but 1) they're too slow for my taste, and 2) the sessions are taking up too much time. I want to see if I can get faster results with less time spent each day! I've spoken with Big Al about it, and based on our discussion I'll be starting a new routine today that breaks the workout up into smaller chunks placed throughout the day.
NEW ROUTINE:
Each day = 4 sessions spread throughout the day: 8:30am, 11:30am, 3pm, and 8pm
Day A = length
Day B = girth
5 days on 2 days off
Day A 1 session =
warmup (5min hair dryer + penile slapping exercise)
20 slow cranks
Day B 1 session =
warmup (5min hair dryer + penile slapping exercise)
20 squeezes
On the last session of each day, I also do towel raise kegels to train EQ.
Each day, I'll add 1 rep of each exercise, each session.
Breaking it up throughout the day actually presents its own challenges, since I don't have all day privacy, but I'll give this a shot. If it's working out schedule-wise then I'll try it for a month and see what I get. Then I'll try out what I'm REALLY itching for, and add the ADS Silistretcher at all waking hours and see how THAT goes.
Alternatively, if the broken up sessions don't end up being practical either, I'll go back to my old routine and try adding the ADS component to see if I can at least speed up the results I'm getting.
Stay tuned!
Having said that, I'm making a decision to roll the dice here. The routine I've been using has been getting me results, but 1) they're too slow for my taste, and 2) the sessions are taking up too much time. I want to see if I can get faster results with less time spent each day! I've spoken with Big Al about it, and based on our discussion I'll be starting a new routine today that breaks the workout up into smaller chunks placed throughout the day.
NEW ROUTINE:
Each day = 4 sessions spread throughout the day: 8:30am, 11:30am, 3pm, and 8pm
Day A = length
Day B = girth
5 days on 2 days off
Day A 1 session =
warmup (5min hair dryer + penile slapping exercise)
20 slow cranks
Day B 1 session =
warmup (5min hair dryer + penile slapping exercise)
20 squeezes
On the last session of each day, I also do towel raise kegels to train EQ.
Each day, I'll add 1 rep of each exercise, each session.
Breaking it up throughout the day actually presents its own challenges, since I don't have all day privacy, but I'll give this a shot. If it's working out schedule-wise then I'll try it for a month and see what I get. Then I'll try out what I'm REALLY itching for, and add the ADS Silistretcher at all waking hours and see how THAT goes.
Alternatively, if the broken up sessions don't end up being practical either, I'll go back to my old routine and try adding the ADS component to see if I can at least speed up the results I'm getting.
Stay tuned!
Haursen
The Godly PE Journeyman
Looks like a decent plan.. Please keep us posted.
Very cool idea and something I was going to post about today in a similar way. I have been studying days off and rest periods and I’m starting to find a pattern with certain men that gain better with either less work or work broken up into different places throughout the day. I always called the stealth training but I think it’s important to bring to light in actual routines that use this methodology and explain it in a way that people will understand.
We'll see how it works out for me! It does seem like different people have been successful with different approaches, certain methods working better for some than for others, and it would be great if we could determine which sort of person is best served by what... perhaps there are some indicators we could discover besides just trial and error, with periodic measurements as your guide.
Haursen
The Godly PE Journeyman
Great minds think alike, Brawnster.
I was thinking the exact same thing...If there are any physical markers that can indicate what would work for an individual and removing the guesswork from the equation.
It is a large project to take on but I feel it is necessary. Collecting data and showing how rest and healing is vital to a faster growing cycles. There has been polls but that does not give the big picture. I think my findings will allow men more rest while still making gains. SRT does address healing but resting times were never looked at until I started watching these trends of men gaining with less time or rest. Putting more time into passive healing, as outlined in SRT. Awesome topic, so glad to be involved.
Measurements on March 10, 2019
These measurements taken after a couple days not wearing the wrap.
Flaccid Girth: 4 5/8"
BPFL: 4 15/16"
BPSFL: 7 6/8"
Erect Girth: 5 3/8"
BPEL: 7 3/8"
Measurements on April 7, 2019, after the first month of my new routine. I wasn't as consistent as I should have been, here and there we have days where I only did 2 or 3 of my 4 daily sessions. Splitting into smaller sessions throughout the day has its own challenges, especially when it comes to privacy. (At some point, people come home.) Also, the temptation to fap after each session must be overcome. Try doing THAT and see what your EQ is like by the fourth session. LOL Finally, since I post to MoS during my sessions, these little mini-sessions have made that a tick less convenient. The sessions themselves are shorter, and also the pressure to get these little interruptions to my day over with has increased in direct proportion to their number. Sorry I've been scarce!
I've also noticed some new PI's, lots of tiny red spots along the shaft on girth days that go away by the following day. Frequent little 'twinges' of pain in the shaft and ligs. Nothing serious or disruptive, but I guess I'll interpret this stuff in light of the numbers!*
These measures taken after a couple days NOT wearing my wrap. This may affect flaccid measures. I also noticed that if I press the ruler right above the shaft, it actually pulls the shaft back a bit because it pulls on the skin. By giving just the smallest gap between shaft and ruler, I actually get slightly longer measures even though the shaft is coming in at an angle. I wasn't aware of that before and I'll have to go back and review the old measurement pictures to see what my habits have been. (+10 to precision!)
Flaccid Girth: 4 5/8"
BPFL: 5 1/8"
BPSFL: 7 13/16"
Erect Girth: 5 3/8"
BPEL: 7 3/8"
You can see these measurements in the context of my entire history here!
*EDIT: My progress stalled in the last month I was training the new mini-session routine. I find this inconclusive, since multiple factors changed (new PIs, new routine), but I didn't lose progress, which I'm under the impression that I should expect if negative PIs are showing. So there's that.
These measurements taken after a couple days not wearing the wrap.
Flaccid Girth: 4 5/8"
BPFL: 4 15/16"
BPSFL: 7 6/8"
Erect Girth: 5 3/8"
BPEL: 7 3/8"
Measurements on April 7, 2019, after the first month of my new routine. I wasn't as consistent as I should have been, here and there we have days where I only did 2 or 3 of my 4 daily sessions. Splitting into smaller sessions throughout the day has its own challenges, especially when it comes to privacy. (At some point, people come home.
) Also, the temptation to fap after each session must be overcome. Try doing THAT and see what your EQ is like by the fourth session. LOL Finally, since I post to MoS during my sessions, these little mini-sessions have made that a tick less convenient. The sessions themselves are shorter, and also the pressure to get these little interruptions to my day over with has increased in direct proportion to their number. Sorry I've been scarce!I've also noticed some new PI's, lots of tiny red spots along the shaft on girth days that go away by the following day. Frequent little 'twinges' of pain in the shaft and ligs. Nothing serious or disruptive, but I guess I'll interpret this stuff in light of the numbers!*
These measures taken after a couple days NOT wearing my wrap. This may affect flaccid measures. I also noticed that if I press the ruler right above the shaft, it actually pulls the shaft back a bit because it pulls on the skin. By giving just the smallest gap between shaft and ruler, I actually get slightly longer measures even though the shaft is coming in at an angle. I wasn't aware of that before and I'll have to go back and review the old measurement pictures to see what my habits have been. (+10 to precision!)
Flaccid Girth: 4 5/8"
BPFL: 5 1/8"
BPSFL: 7 13/16"
Erect Girth: 5 3/8"
BPEL: 7 3/8"
You can see these measurements in the context of my entire history here!
*EDIT: My progress stalled in the last month I was training the new mini-session routine. I find this inconclusive, since multiple factors changed (new PIs, new routine), but I didn't lose progress, which I'm under the impression that I should expect if negative PIs are showing. So there's that.
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