dragan said:lllloooooooolllll......is this a joke?
pokey are you trying to say that I need to lose some weight? come on man I`m 1.87m and 77kg
what do you think know.....If I do extra cardio I think my heart is going to explode
9cyclops9 said:I think he was saying you're too damn skinny. Eat some food, man! So we can see your abs, big deal. There's no muscle to speak of. Lots of food+lots of iron (the kind you lift) will make a huge difference.
dragan said:well.....didn`t expect all this criticism,but this is me after 10 years of soccer(i`m 18) and 2 months of gym, and I`m not skinny
just healthy
with quality muscles not big muscles
because I need speed(I run 50m in 6.1s)
but I can bench like 100kg max and have done like 110 push-ups,what about you guys?
sikdogg said:Cyclops, i don't understand why you're bashing Dragan... he just asked for critques. It's tough enough for people to post pics, we should all be more supportive. Yea, he's on the thin side but he has very low bodyfat. I'll wager that he looks better than alot of people on this board. From the pics i've seen of other people, i know that he's definitely leaner than most. I say he has a very good base to work from and with a sound diet and some hard work he can build himself a great body. Since he's a soccer player his goals probably aren't the same as yours or mine. He's young and he has to start someplace... telling him he's thin is one thing, it doesn't have to be slammed in his face.
against_odds21 said:Damn cyclops. Just be an ass. Maybe he was looking for a critique, but not someone to slam him and compare him to a professional runner.
[P]okey[B]ear said:i'm same place you are.
lolLambdaCalc said:You look like a twink. Are you planning on starring in fag twink films? If so keep doing what you are doing....just kdding.
I think the guy was fishing. At the end of the day, I don't care. If I looked like him, I would bulk up...like 20 lbs of pure, mean, gangland muscle. Muscle that robs banks while you sleep. Muscle that hangs drywall while you are at the water cooler. Muscle that pimps more bitches on the side than PootyTang. Muscle that impregantes women from 50 feet away.
I think you get picture. Soccer ball don't impregante women.
Blu said:Yeah, this thread is really nasty. Some of you are being a bunch of jerks to this nice kid! It's such a load of hogwash to insinuate that he is not fit - it does NOT necessarily mean having bulging muscles like a olympic sprinter. Give me a break.Dragan DOES have a healthy body. He's using metric measurements, so I'm going to guess that he's from Europe somewhere (he looks like a European, I guess). Being "healthy" means retaining/maintaining your cardiovascular health, flexibility, explosiveness, lateral (and other) mobility - which he has plenty of. Using math, he does the 100 meter(yard) dash in about 11-12 seconds. That's about 2 seconds off from Olympic-level conditioning. He can do 100 push ups in one set. So he is CLEARLY "healthy". Healthy does not mean RONNIE COLEMAN OR LEE PRIEST, YOU MEATHEADS.
I would agree though that dragan has a decent body in terms of muscularity, However, it's nothing outstanding nor pathetic, as some of you seem to indicate. But my main point was that it's really rude and preposterous to rail on his body just because he doesn't have 300 pounds of muscles coming out of his ass. That's ridiculous. Also realize that there are different aesthetics of male beauty around the world. The Euros, Asians, Africans, Aussies, etc. (and anything outside of North America basically) prefer a slightly more streamlined look that suggest flexibility and elegance, and not the uber-mesomorphic aesthetic that American men worship. I've lived in several places around the world, so I speak from personal experience. At 6 feet and around 10% body fat, a man who is about 165-175 pounds is considered ideal pretty much all around the world. In America, the aesthetic values are skewed so that the 'ideal' male at 6'0" would weigh about 185-200. Is it any wonder that American men suffer so much from male body dymorphism? Also, don't forget that us American are THE fattest people in the world, and because of the numbers we stare at all day (200, 220, 230, 250 pounds), our perception of what a 'healthy weight' is is skewed. Most guys on this forum would be happy to weigh 180 at 5'10" for example, and think that's 'lean'. Outside of the US, you'd still be considered a lard-ass at that weight.
To back back to my point:
1) Let's stop being a bunch of pricks.
2) Let's understand that we can't impose our cultural standards on others. That's just stupid.
Welcome back brotherGashKing said:16, Jul 2025 I am back in he country - glad to be back to my PE Brothers, and I'm ready to start enlarging again.