New member new routine - progress thread

usa4tw said:
Got it thank you. I have a looser sleeve. Can I still wear the silisleeve 2 on off days and before girth work (after length work/extender)?
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That's perfect. You can use before and after you train. Your just looking to hold a minimal amount of blood. You do not need to choke the cock, simply keeping enough blood to remain engorged enough to heal in that state
 
I had zero results during the 6th month of doing PE which drove me crazy and made me sad to the point I stopped everything and quiting PE. Then I woke up in a morning after some time to find myself having 0.5' in girth, 0.5' in length.
For some people (like me) the healing process is so important
 
kriskros said:
I had zero results during the 6th month of doing PE which drove me crazy and made me sad to the point I stopped everything and quiting PE. Then I woke up in a morning after some time to find myself having 0.5' in girth, 0.5' in length.
For some people (like me) the healing process is so important
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That's great news! What are you doing now for a workout?
 
DLD said:
That's great news! What are you doing now for a workout?
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5x5x3 is the only way. I have tried everything.
The only problem with me is that for some reason I have high penis tolerance and I do not know If I am pumping at 10-12hg if I am actually damaging my penis instead of helping it.
 
kriskros said:
5x5x3 is the only way. I have tried everything.
The only problem with me is that for some reason I have high penis tolerance and I do not know If I am pumping at 10-12hg if I am actually damaging my penis instead of helping it.
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You're fine brother. Just be careful as you go up. I would stay between 10 and 12 for now, for as long as you can. At times, increase it up to 13 for just 30 seconds, and drop down to stay at 10 and 12. Go higher just for a few moment to increase the tissues, and go back down to sustain the expansion. You're not damaging it.

For the brothers that are reading that 10inHg and upper is okay, DON'T go there yet. Brother kriskros already preconditioned his penis for this pressure range.
 
oldandlively said:
You're fine brother. Just be careful as you go up. I would stay between 10 and 12 for now, for as long as you can. At times, increase it up to 13 for just 30 seconds, and drop down to stay at 10 and 12. Go higher just for a few moment to increase the tissues, and go back down to sustain the expansion. You're not damaging it.

For the brothers that are reading that 10inHg and upper is okay, DON'T go there yet. Brother kriskros already preconditioned his penis for this pressure range.
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I am very concerned because i am not getting any edema anymore which makes me afraid of what i am doing, is not enough. We know edema is bad but it is a proof you pushed hard, isnt it?
 
kriskros said:
I am very concerned because i am not getting any edema anymore which makes me afraid of what i am doing, is not enough. We know edema is bad but it is a proof you pushed hard, isnt it?
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Edema is indeed not a good thing, but it's also not a bad thing. Edema means you pushed a bit too hard for too long. You just need to push hard but not too long by reduce the time in the pump and more time with SSJ and other jelqing.
 
oldandlively said:
Edema is indeed not a good thing, but it's also not a bad thing. Edema means you pushed a bit too hard for too long. You just need to push hard but not too long by reduce the time in the pump and more time with SSJ and other jelqing.
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I tried 5x5x5 but no edema. Yes, I got expansion but if I train for 3 days in a row, my expansion will fade very fast (3-4 hours)
 
oldandlively said:
Better than no expansion or no display of expansion. You came a long way brother.
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we do not need huge expansion to heal. A minimal expansion is just fine. Just be consistent as much as you can to continue healing from girth workouts.
 
oldandlively said:
You probably would have, just more stressed out because of your worries.
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Worry is nothing nice, it will truly work against your training and growth. Put your worries in Jesus hands and you will find peace.
 
kriskros said:
Please answer this. Many people are saying that extenders help with girth. How true is that ?
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There's a little truth to that, but a hell load of lies mixed in. This is the major case for manufacturers and sellers that want to push the products. I'll explain.

We've discussed in many extended details on why girth routines help with length, and length routines help with girth. But if you take an average data across the board for all devices, pumping for girth only helps to gain 10% of the length, and extenders use for length only helps to increase 10% of the girth. 10% is being very liberal on giving the devices the most optimal gains they can every hope to attain. Most gains are around 5% at best.

If that don't make sense, this will.

When you perform girth routines, especially in the pump, you are causing a pull on the tunica for length. You're engaging a tunica fiber weakening. Most people who only pump, nothing more but just pump (no SSJ, no prewarming stretches, nothing), do not see the length gain. The only reason why they gain some kind of length is because they are in a period of hyper growth. They have not stop growing, or they are in their period of high reproductive escapades. In other words, they're horny and they want to spread their semen. During this period, the body releases high level of human growth hormone and collagen to improve their reproductive chances. Their penises are easily influenced by abnormal changes. So, a little tug and pull on their penis may just be enough to trigger their body to release as much resources as possible to make their penises grow. When that happens, the companies want to use this phenomenon to say, "Our products will make your penis larger and longer!!" That only happens to those who are actually in the period of growth still. That means their age group is still young. Good luck in finding the same conditions apply to older age group.

The same is true for the length products, such as the extender. There's actually more truth to the extender than the pump. Why is that? When the extender is used to stretch the tunica, the tunica caused the surrounding tissues to also hyper extend and enlarged. Take a water hose for example. If you pump the hose up with higher pressure than the hose can handle, you only get lateral expansion. It gets larger before the hose bursts. BUT, if you stretch it slowly like an extender, The hose wall breaks down little by little and it stretches longer and longer. When your penis engages in erection from morning woods or through sexual excitement, like a stretched hose with thinner walls, the pressure influences an expansion more readily. In term the hose, the hose can both expand easier and doesn't explode like when the wall is more rigid. So, you have a longer hose and a larger expanding hose. Same for the penis. When the penis is extended in length, the surround tissues are also stretched to their limits. This allows any extra blood pressure to expand the cavernosa more readily, creating a "large" penis as well as a "longer" penis.

So, to compare side-by-side between pumping only and extender only for growth, pumping has up to 5% length growth influences, where as extender can push the limit to 10% girth growth influences. This has been recorded in growth data going back as far as 1980s.
 
oldandlively said:
There's a little truth to that, but a hell load of lies mixed in. This is the major case for manufacturers and sellers that want to push the products. I'll explain.

We've discussed in many extended details on why girth routines help with length, and length routines help with girth. But if you take an average data across the board for all devices, pumping for girth only helps to gain 10% of the length, and extenders use for length only helps to increase 10% of the girth. 10% is being very liberal on giving the devices the most optimal gains they can every hope to attain. Most gains are around 5% at best.

If that don't make sense, this will.

When you perform girth routines, especially in the pump, you are causing a pull on the tunica for length. You're engaging a tunica fiber weakening. Most people who only pump, nothing more but just pump (no SSJ, no prewarming stretches, nothing), do not see the length gain. The only reason why they gain some kind of length is because they are in a period of hyper growth. They have not stop growing, or they are in their period of high reproductive escapades. In other words, they're horny and they want to spread their semen. During this period, the body releases high level of human growth hormone and collagen to improve their reproductive chances. Their penises are easily influenced by abnormal changes. So, a little tug and pull on their penis may just be enough to trigger their body to release as much resources as possible to make their penises grow. When that happens, the companies want to use this phenomenon to say, "Our products will make your penis larger and longer!!" That only happens to those who are actually in the period of growth still. That means their age group is still young. Good luck in finding the same conditions apply to older age group.

The same is true for the length products, such as the extender. There's actually more truth to the extender than the pump. Why is that? When the extender is used to stretch the tunica, the tunica caused the surrounding tissues to also hyper extend and enlarged. Take a water hose for example. If you pump the hose up with higher pressure than the hose can handle, you only get lateral expansion. It gets larger before the hose bursts. BUT, if you stretch it slowly like an extender, The hose wall breaks down little by little and it stretches longer and longer. When your penis engages in erection from morning woods or through sexual excitement, like a stretched hose with thinner walls, the pressure influences an expansion more readily. In term the hose, the hose can both expand easier and doesn't explode like when the wall is more rigid. So, you have a longer hose and a larger expanding hose. Same for the penis. When the penis is extended in length, the surround tissues are also stretched to their limits. This allows any extra blood pressure to expand the cavernosa more readily, creating a "large" penis as well as a "longer" penis.

So, to compare side-by-side between pumping only and extender only for growth, pumping has up to 5% length growth influences, where as extender can push the limit to 10% girth growth influences. This has been recorded in growth data going back as far as 1980s.
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I have heard some info about an expensive pump called dp4000 by ctc. Do you know it ?
 
kriskros said:
I have heard some info about an expensive pump called dp4000 by ctc. Do you know it ?
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Not that model specifically, but plenty of "set it and forget it" machines. There are so many made and models out there, but they all do the same things:
  • Set your low pressure
  • Set your high pressure
  • Set your time limit
  • Provide an emergency cut-off
  • Accurate pressure monitoring with +/- 2% errror. Anything more than this, your penis is on the line at high pressure. Why? At 5% error rate, that sudden increase of -0.5inHg can break your penis.
  • Pump motor is strong and at least 7 times the pressure you need. If your max pressure is -10inHg, you need the motor to be sucking with the pressure of -70inHg. Otherwise, the pressure load will burn the motor out.
  • Fast burst pump in 3 seconds. If the motor is not strong enough to get your high pressure in 3 seconds, it not worth the cost.
If these options don't exist, don't bother paying.

This is why every time I see a tiny little pump with auto pressure sensor and pump, I simply slap my forehead and ask, "Okay what's the specs?"
 
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Quick update I am coming up on 3 months and will then measure. Unfortunately visually I don’t think I’ve grown in length which will be frustrating if so. Maybe very slight growth in girth but we will see what the measurements say in a few days. I do know my flaccid size has for sure increased but I don’t really care about that.




This routine is 5 days a week unless otherwise noted
Length: erect stretch in minutes (M/W/F or 3 days a week only)
Length: low grip manual stretch in minutes
Length: Bundled stretch 4 sets
Length: rotary cranks
Length: Extender in hours
Length: Extender tension range in kg
Length: Passive sleeve in hours
Girth: 5/5/3
Girth: vac hg used
Girth: cock ring in minutes
Notes

Jan 28, 2025
5
5
Complete
Forgot
3
1.6-2.5
3
Complete
5.5-7
30
First day of revised workout, no issues

Jan 29, 2025
-
6
Complete
25
2.25
1.6-2.5
2
Complete
5.5-7
40

Jan 30, 2025
5
6
Complete
25
2.25
1.6-2.5
3
Complete
5.5-7
40

Jan 31, 2025
-
6
Complete
25
0.75
1.6-2.2
3
Complete
5.5-7
40
Was short on time

Feb 3, 2025
5
6
Complete
25
1.75
1.6-2.5
4
Complete
5.5-7
40

Feb 4, 2025
-
6
Complete
25
3
1.6-2.5
2
Complete
5.5-7
45

Feb 5, 2025
5
6
Complete
25
1.5
1.6-2.2
-
Complete
5.5-7
45
Short on time

Feb 6, 2025
-
6
Complete
25
3
1.6-2.5
1
Complete
5.5-7
45

Feb 7, 2025
5
6
Complete
25
2.25
1.6-2.2
2
Complete
5.5-7
45

Feb 10, 2025
No time
6
Complete
25
3
1.6-2.8
1
Complete
5.5-7
45

Feb 11, 2025
5
6
Complete
25
2.25
1.6-2.5
2
Complete
6-7
45

Feb 12, 2025
5
6
Complete
25
2.25
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.6-2.2
2
Complete
6-7-05
45
Started using heat with extender

Feb 13, 2025
-
7
Complete
25
4
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.4-2.2
1.5
-
-
-
Low grips are now bundled. Ran out of time no girth

Feb 14, 2025
5
6
Complete
25
2.5
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.4-2.2
2
Complete
6-7-05
45

Feb 17, 2025
5
6
Complete
25
2.5
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.4-2.2
2
Complete
6-7-05
45

Feb 18, 2025
-
7
Complete
25
2.5
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.4-2.2
3
No time
-
-

Feb 19, 2025
6
6
Complete
25
2.6
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.4-2.2
3
Complete
6-7-05
45

Feb 20, 2025
-
6
Complete
25
2.5
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.4-2.2
2
Complete
6-7-05
45

Feb 21, 2025
6
7.5
Complete
25
3.25
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.4-2.2
2
Complete
6-7-05
45

Feb 24, 2025
6
6
Complete
25
3
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.4-2.2
4
Complete did 4 sets
6-7-05
60

Feb 25, 2025
-
8
Complete
25
4
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.4-2.2
1.5
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
60

Feb 26, 2025
6
6
Complete
25
2.75
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.4-2.2
4.75
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5-9
45

Feb 27, 2025
-
7
Complete
25
2.25
1.4-2.2
5
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5-9
60

Feb 28, 2025
7
6
Complete
25
3
3.5(L twist, R twist), 1.4-2.2
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Mar 3, 2025
7
7
Complete
25
1.75
2.5(L/R twist) 1.4
3
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
60

Mar 4, 2025
-
7
Complete
25
3.25
2.5(L/R twist) 1.4
1.5
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45
On bundled started griping at base for more shaft stretch

Mar 5, 2025
7
6
Complete
25
2.25
2.5(L/R twist) 1.4
3
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Mar 6, 2025
-
7
Complete
25
3.75
2.5(L/R twist) 1.4
2.5
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
30

Mar 7, 2025
7
7
Complete
25
2.25
2.5(L/R twist) 1.4
2.5
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5
45
Less HG on pump due to some sensitivity

Mar 10, 2025
-
7
Complete
25
2.5
2.5-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45
Stopped twisting in ADS

Mar 11, 2025
-
8
Complete
25
2.75
2.5-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Mar 12, 2025
7
7
Complete
25
2.5
2.5-1.4
2
No time
No time
No time

Mar 13, 2025
-
8
Complete
25
2.5
2.5-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Mar 17, 2025
7
7
Complete
25
2.5
2.5-1.4
4
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Mar 18, 2025
-
8
Complete
25
2.25
2.5-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Mar 19, 2025
7
7
Complete
25
3
2.5-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Mar 20, 2025
-
No time
No time
No time
3
2.5-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Mar 21, 2025
7
7
3 of 4 complete
No time
2.5
2.5-1.4
3
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
90
Time constraints

Mar 24, 2025
7
7
Complete
25
3
2.5-1.4
2.2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Mar 25, 2025
-
10
Complete
25
0.75
2.5-1.4
3
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

3/26/2025
8
7
Complete
25
0.75
2.5-1.4
2
No time
No time
No time

Mar 27, 2025
-
8
Complete
25
1
2.5-1.4
4
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
70

Mar 28, 2025
-
9
Complete
25
2.25
2.5-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Mar 31, 2025
7
10
Complete
Forgot
2.25
2.5-1.4
3
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Apr 1, 2025
-
8
Complete
25
2.25
2.5-1.4
4
No time
No time
No time

Apr 2, 2025
10
7
Complete
25
2.25
2.5-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
35
Short on time for ring

Apr 3, 2025
-
8
Complete
25
2.25
2.5-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Apr 4, 2025
7
10
3 of 4 complete
No time
2.25
2.5-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Apr 7, 2025
8
10
Complete
25
2.25
2.5-1.4
3
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
60

4/8/2025
-
10
Complete
25
2.25
2.5-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Apr 9, 2025
8
10
Complete
25
2.25
2.5-1.4
3
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Apr 10, 2025
-
10
Complete
25
0.75
2.8-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Apr 14, 2025
8
7
Complete
25
1.5
2.8-1.4
2
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

4/15/2025
-
10
Complete
25
2.25
2.8-1.4
1.5
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Apr 16, 2025
10
7
Complete
25
2.25
2.8-1.4
1
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45

Apr 17, 2025
-
10
Complete
25
1.75
2.8-1.4
1.5
7/3, 10/4, 10/3
6.5 - 9
45
 
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