New member new routine - progress thread

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usa4tw

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New member here, been PEing very consistently for 4 years, tried many routines, and devices but have not gained for quite sometime. After joining here, reading up, and discussing with the resident OGs, I started the following workout. Shooting for 5 days a week

Rice bag warm up

Length:
4 sets of 30 seconds of Bundles
Straight up to Center
Straight up to the Left
Straight up to the Right
Straight Down to the Center
Straight Down to Left
Straight Down to Right
Straight Out to the Center
Straight Out to Left
Straight Out to Right
Behind the Cheeks to Center
Behind the Cheeks to Left
Behind the Cheeks to Right

Extender for a few hours at low tension

Passive sleeve when I can’t extend

Girth:

5x5x3
(5min slow squash jelq +5min vac)X3

Double Ring for a few minutes as a cool down

When I started this a few weeks ago I was at 6.75 BPEL and 4.96 MEG

Current progress




Sets of bundled stretches all 12 directions Traction device time in hrsTraction device tension in kgPassive sleeve time in hrs5/5/35/5/3 vac in HgRings in hrs
Oct 28, 202444.51.21Complete3-50.75
Oct 29, 202444.51.22 Complete4-50.5
Oct 30, 202445.51.2 -1.61Complete4-50.5
Oct 31, 202444.51.2-1.61.5Complete50.25
Nov 1, 2024451.62Complete50.1
Nov 4, 202444.51.62 Complete50.1
Nov 5, 202444.51.6-1.82Complete50.1
Nov 6, 2024441.6 -1.84Complete50.1
Nov 7, 202444.251.61.5 Complete50
Nov 8, 202444.251.6 -1.82 Complete50.1
Nov 11, 202443.751.6-1.81.5 Complete50.1
Nov 12, 202444.51.6 -1.81.5 Complete50.1
Nov 13, 202444.51.81Complete5-60.1
Nov 14, 202441.11.85Complete5-60.1
Nov 18, 202444.51.81.5Complete5-60.1
Nov 19, 202444.31.8-2.21.5Complete5-60


EQ has been good and not really had any issues. The workout is challenging.


Will provide updates every few weeks and measure in a few weeks as well. Let me know if you see any issues
 
Well done with the log layout. Not sure if you copy and paste or you create the table, but wow. That's a very well thoughtful layout and recording.

Since you have quite a bit of time under your belt for PE consistently, let's adjust something for your benefits based on time of use for the extender and traction force, but a few modification to the bundling of the routine. However, inter switch between your current routine with a modified routine each day. This is to test your effectiveness of the various stretches:

Length: (stay the course until you are comfortable to go higher towards 15 minutes)
4 sets of 30 seconds of Bundles
Straight up to Center
Straight up to the Left (completely rotate the penis to the right side while pulling left)
Straight up to the Right (completely rotate the penis the left side while pulling right, same amount of pull force, and same amount of rotational angle)
Straight Down to the Center
Straight Down to Left (completely rotate the penis to the right side while pulling left)
Straight Down to Right (completely rotate the penis the left side while pulling right, same amount of pull force, and same amount of rotational angle)
Straight Out to the Center
Straight Out to Left
Straight Out to Right (completely rotate the penis the left side while pulling right, same amount of pull force, and same amount of rotational angle)
Behind the Cheeks to Center
Behind the Cheeks to Left (completely rotate the penis to the right side while pulling left)
Behind the Cheeks to Right (completely rotate the penis the left side while pulling right, same amount of pull force, and same amount of rotational angle)

When you have free time, one more set of 90 seconds:
Straight Down to Center, but put slightly toward the back between the cheeks (completely rotate the penis to the right side while pulling left)
Straight Down to Center, but put slightly toward the back between the cheeks (completely rotate the penis the left side while pulling right, same amount of pull force, and same amount of rotational angle)
Straight Down to Center, but put slightly toward the back between the cheeks without rotation.

For the traction device tension, first 30 minutes, go up to 2kg if possible. Reduce to 1.6kg for 15 minutes. Remain at 1.1kg for the rest of the time.
 
Thanks for your response!

For the bundled length modification, I’m not sure I follow the changes. Currently I alternate each full set between a full 360* bundle counterclockwise and a full 360* bundle clockwise. So by the end I’ve done 2 full sets in all directions with a clockwise bundle and 2 full sets in all directions with a counterclockwise bundle. I’m not fully understanding what you are saying to do differently? Sorry

For this:

stay the course until you are comfortable to go higher towards 15 minutes)

What do you mean by the 15 minutes? Each set takes about 6 minutes after competing all directions at 30 seconds. Total time is then 24 minutes not counting break in between. Where does the 15 minutes come in?

For the extender change I currently extend for 45 minutes at a time before I take a quick break. Are you saying to start with higher tension then work my way down for each 45 minute set or do you mean for total time for the day(30 minutes max at 2.2 then less from there for the rest of the day)? In other words it sounds like I may be doing too much tension since I’m currently between 1.8-2.2Kg for the entire time in the tensioner.
 
usa4tw said:
Thanks for your response!

For the bundled length modification, I’m not sure I follow the changes. Currently I alternate each full set between a full 360* bundle counterclockwise and a full 360* bundle clockwise. So by the end I’ve done 2 full sets in all directions with a clockwise bundle and 2 full sets in all directions with a counterclockwise bundle. I’m not fully understanding what you are saying to do differently? Sorry
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Got it. You indicated "bundles" and not "bundled". "Bundles" is combo of exercises in a routine. I got a bit confused there. If you added rotation to the exercises, excellent.

But do add that one extra one at the end for downwards. Why? The final set is more of an ending to keep the tissues lined up. It can be outwrads if you want.

usa4tw said:
For this:

stay the course until you are comfortable to go higher towards 15 minutes)

What do you mean by the 15 minutes? Each set takes about 6 minutes after competing all directions at 30 seconds. Total time is then 24 minutes not counting break in between. Where does the 15 minutes come in?
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Length:
4 sets of 30 seconds of Bundles

I missed this one. You got 6 minutes x 4 = 24 minutes. I misinterpreted as 4 sets of 30 seconds = 120 seconds in a rapid bundling of exercises, something like a rotary cranks. So, it's 4 sets of 30 seconds per exercise, in the selected bundled routines. Noted.

usa4tw said:
For the extender change I currently extend for 45 minutes at a time before I take a quick break. Are you saying to start with higher tension then work my way down for each 45 minute set or do you mean for total time for the day(30 minutes max at 2.2 then less from there for the rest of the day)? In other words it sounds like I may be doing too much tension since I’m currently between 1.8-2.2Kg for the entire time in the tensioner.
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If you're doing a 45 minutes per repetition, start high, and progressively reduce to 1.1kg. Don't remain static at 1.2kg or at 1.8kg. Trick the penis to prevent it from developing long duration of static micro traumas. When the penis sense too long of a micro trauma adding up, it will force itself to turtle and shrink to preserve itself from further harm.
 
Great thank you. Sorry the way I worded things was not clear. I will make that change for the extender. I will add that extra set of bundled streches as well
 
No worries brother. As long as we can understand you clearly, we all benefit as we have clarity.
 
oldandlively said:
No worries brother. As long as we can understand you clearly, we all benefit as we have clarity.
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This is so important to getting data from all brothers. These posts help us to help you.
 
Quick progress update below.

I did have some slight discomfort on the right side of my base a week ago but took a little break and then eased back into the bundles and all good now. Otherwise been going good. Have not measured yet. I do think my girth is bigger for sure but length I can’t really tell visually.





Sets of bundled stretches all 12 directions Finisher bundled stretches down 3 directionsTraction device time in hrsTraction device tension in kgPassive sleeve time in hrs5/5/35/5/3 vac in HgRings in hrs
Oct 28, 202444.51.21Complete3-50.75
Oct 29, 202444.51.22 Complete4-50.5
Oct 30, 202445.51.2 -1.61Complete4-50.5
Oct 31, 202444.51.2-1.61.5Complete50.25
Nov 1, 2024451.62Complete50.1
Nov 4, 202444.51.62 Complete50.1
Nov 5, 202444.51.6-1.82Complete50.1
Nov 6, 2024441.6 -1.84Complete50.1
Nov 7, 202444.251.61.5 Complete50
Nov 8, 202444.251.6 -1.82 Complete50.1
Nov 11, 202443.751.6-1.81.5 Complete50.1
Nov 12, 202444.51.6 -1.81.5 Complete50.1
Nov 13, 202444.51.81Complete5-60.1
Nov 14, 202441.11.85Complete5-60.1
Nov 18, 202444.51.81.5Complete5-60.1
Nov 19, 202444.31.8-2.21.5Complete5-60
Nov 20, 202444.51.6-2.21Complete5-60.1
Nov 21, 20244Complete 4.12.2-1.21.5Complete5-60.1
Nov 22, 20244Complete 3.752.2-1.21Complete5-60.1
Nov 25, 20244Complete 2.252.2-1.23.5Complete5-60.1
Nov 26, 20244Complete 2.252.4-1.23.5Complete5-60.1
Nov 27, 20244Complete 2.252.4-1.43Complete5-60.1
Nov 28, 20244Complete --8--0
Nov 29, 20244Complete --4--0
Dec 2, 20244Complete 4.52.4-1.41Complete5-60.1
Dec 3, 20244Complete 42.6-1.41.5Complete5-60.1
Dec 4, 20244Complete 32.6-1.40Complete5/60.1
Dec 5, 20244Complete 3.752.6-1.41.5Complete5-60.1
Dec 6, 20244Complete 43.3-1.42Complete5.60.1
Dec 9, 20244Complete 3.753.3-1.42Complete5-60.1
Dec 10, 20244Complete 33.3-1.44Complete5-60.1
Dec 12, 20242-1.53.3-1.46---
Dec 13, 20244,No down stretch -2.253.3-1.4-Complete5-60.1
Dec 16, 20244,No down stretch -2.253.3-1.44Complete5-60.1
Dec 17, 20244,No down stretch -43.3-1.432/3 Complete 5-6-
Dec 18, 20244-4.53.3-1.40.5Complete5.5-6.50.1
 
Very nice log setup. Keep going. Make sure to do sampling notes on the feeling of fatigueness along the entire penile shaft, and if you do feel fatigue/achy feeling below the base of the penis, note that too. That is an indicator the body is yield to growth needs.
 
Great log! Be sure to include how your feeling body and mind. This is very important to us helping you
 
oldandlively said:
Very nice log setup. Keep going. Make sure to do sampling notes on the feeling of fatigueness along the entire penile shaft, and if you do feel fatigue/achy feeling below the base of the penis, note that too. That is an indicator the body is yield to growth needs.
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So far I have felt none of this other that the slight strain I mentioned which is now gone
 
usa4tw said:
So far I have felt none of this other that the slight strain I mentioned which is now gone
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Sounds like you've reached past fatigues and into strain level. Your body adopted and adapted to higher pain threshold. So do be careful.
 
Hey guys, i am at about 2.5 months on this new workout. I measured 5 days ago and had no gain in length or girth since starting the workout. Do I need to change anything or keep going? Reminder that I have been doing PE very consistently for the last 4 years (various workouts and devices used) and I am a hard gainer.



Sets of bundled stretches all 12 directions Finisher bundled stretches down 3 directionsTraction device time in hrsTraction device tension in kgPassive sleeve time in hrs5/5/35/5/3 vac in HgRings in hrsNotes
Oct 28, 202444.51.21Complete3-50.75
Oct 29, 202444.51.22 Complete4-50.5
Oct 30, 202445.51.2 -1.61Complete4-50.5
Oct 31, 202444.51.2-1.61.5Complete50.25
Nov 1, 2024451.62Complete50.1
Nov 4, 202444.51.62 Complete50.1
Nov 5, 202444.51.6-1.82Complete50.1
Nov 6, 2024441.6 -1.84Complete50.1
Nov 7, 202444.251.61.5 Complete50
Nov 8, 202444.251.6 -1.82 Complete50.1
Nov 11, 202443.751.6-1.81.5 Complete50.1
Nov 12, 202444.51.6 -1.81.5 Complete50.1
Nov 13, 202444.51.81Complete5-60.1
Nov 14, 202441.11.85Complete5-60.1
Nov 18, 202444.51.81.5Complete5-60.1
Nov 19, 202444.31.8-2.21.5Complete5-60
Nov 20, 202444.51.6-2.21Complete5-60.1
Nov 21, 20244Complete 4.12.2-1.21.5Complete5-60.1
Nov 22, 20244Complete 3.752.2-1.21Complete5-60.1
Nov 25, 20244Complete 2.252.2-1.23.5Complete5-60.1
Nov 26, 20244Complete 2.252.4-1.23.5Complete5-60.1
Nov 27, 20244Complete 2.252.4-1.43Complete5-60.1
Nov 28, 20244Complete --8--0
Nov 29, 20244Complete --4--0
Dec 2, 20244Complete 4.52.4-1.41Complete5-60.1
Dec 3, 20244Complete 42.6-1.41.5Complete5-60.1
Dec 4, 20244Complete 32.6-1.40Complete5/60.1
Dec 5, 20244Complete 3.752.6-1.41.5Complete5-60.1
Dec 6, 20244Complete 43.3-1.42Complete5.60.1
Dec 9, 20244Complete 3.753.3-1.42Complete5-60.1
Dec 10, 20244Complete 33.3-1.44Complete5-60.1
Dec 12, 20242-1.53.3-1.46---Slight discomfort right side of base when pulling down. Took break yesterday and easing back into
Dec 13, 20244,No down stretch -2.253.3-1.4-Complete5-60.1Discomfort better than yesterday
Dec 16, 20244,No down stretch -2.253.3-1.44Complete5-60.1Discomfort better than yesterday
Dec 17, 20244,No down stretch -43.3-1.432/3 Complete 5-6-Discomfort better than yesterday
Dec 18, 20244-4.53.3-1.40.5Complete5.5-6.50.1Discomfort gone
Dec 19, 20244Complete 33.6-22.5Complete5.5-6.50.1No issues
Dec 20, 20244Complete 33.6-21.5---No time
Dec 24, 20244Complete 0.753.6-25Complete5.5-6.50.1Started 1.25 rotation on bundled
Dec 26, 20244Complete --6---No time
Dec 27, 20244Complete -2Complete5.5-6.5-No time
Dec 30, 20244Complete 2.252.6-1.42---No time
Dec 31, 20244Complete 0.753.6-23.5Complete5.5-6.50.1No issues
Jan 2, 20254Complete 33.6-23Complete5.5-6.50.1Started 1.35-1.4 rotation on bundled stretch
Jan 3, 20254Complete 23.6-23Complete5.5-6.50.1No issues
Jan 6, 20254Complete 33.6-22Complete5.5-6.50.1No issues
Jan 7, 20254Complete 2.253.6-24---Started 1.4-1.5x rotation on bundled stretch. No time for girth
Jan 8, 20254-2.253.6-24Complete5.5-6.50.1No issues
Jan 9, 20254Complete 1.53.8-2.43Complete5.5-70.1Increased tension on extender, slightly increased vac pressure
Jan 10, 20254Complete 1.53.8-2.44Complete5.5-70.1No issues
Jan 13, 20254Complete 3.253.8-2.44Complete5.5-7-Measured and no gain
Jan 14, 20254-3.753.8-2.41.5---Was sick so didn’t complete full workout
Jan 15, 20254-2.253.8-2.41.5Complete5.5-70.1No issues
Jan 16, 20254Complete 2.253.8-2.43Complete5.5-7-No issues low on time
Jan 17, 20254Complete 2.253.8-2.43Complete5.5-70.1No issues
Jan 20, 20254Complete 2.53.8-2.42Complete5.5-70.11.5-1.75x rotation on bundled stretch
 
What I see is a routine that needs to be more in line with SRT. You are inconsistently doing every thing in SRT so I think it is time to go full SRT. I do see the pattern of what you are doing now and its all good just the need to be more organized to fit into the SRT routine. Also in your chart you do not mention growth, are you gaining?
 
thanks I have measured once since starting and after 2.5 months there was no gain in length or girth. What do I need to change?
 
usa4tw said:
thanks I have measured once since starting and after 2.5 months there was no gain in length or girth. What do I need to change?
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Most likely intensity. Are you currently doing the SRT program? If not you should as this will bring the fastest gains. At least read through it to get ideas. Maybe pick what you like and dislike and make a routine that we can review. Some people just need more intensity than others.
 
DLD said:
Most likely intensity. Are you currently doing the SRT program? If not you should as this will bring the fastest gains. At least read through it to get ideas. Maybe pick what you like and dislike and make a routine that we can review. Some people just need more intensity than others.
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Well I thought I was lol! Is my workout not based on SRT? I read through it to come up with this workout but maybe I missed something? I have been very consistent 5 days a week except around Christmas and have put in a lot of time. I must be missing something key.
 
usa4tw said:
Well I thought I was lol! Is my workout not based on SRT? I read through it to come up with this workout but maybe I missed something? I have been very consistent 5 days a week except around Christmas and have put in a lot of time. I must be missing something key.
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It's no so much that your program as SRT it's the fact that you are not doing all the sets as written in SRT.
 
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